#dark age of law

[correctlyme]

aa5-3 is lowkey bullshit in the fact that "the end justifies the means" would absolutely be taught by Phoenix to Athena.

Just thinking about the fact that Phoenix literally falsified evidence to get Kristoph jailed. He's done some sketchy ass things to help his cases. Sometimes, it's how he got results, aka the reason why people during the Dark Age of Law did sketchy ass things.

And the thing is? Mia Fey has used underhand techniques! In Turnabout Sisters, guess who literally blackmailed Redd White into confessing? (Ofc he deserved it but the principle is still there!).

Obviously, Prof. Means was morally wrong in how he was using that methodology, but that lesson just wasn't really effective to me. It's in the context of the Dark Age of Law, but "the end doesn't justify the means" thing doesn't work in Ace Attorney in the way they probably intended it.

The lawyers literally break into places, steal things for evidence, etc etc. Hell, even prosecutors do if we think about aai.

I get the point, but idk. I liked aa5-3 but that case also somehow affected my general enjoyment of dual destinies/Dark Age of Law.

[candicoated]

If you think the world of law of Ace Attorney is insane, imagine if they had the ability to fuse with each other like gems from Steven Universe.

I feel like they would abuse that ability so much. Imagine how OP a prosecutor or defense attorney fusion would be? I could see defense lawyers try to fuse as a strategy to beat prosecutors. Then the Prosecutor's Office getting the idea that these attorneys are using fusion as an advantage to win these cases. So then they would probably try to either retaliate with their own fusions or try to find a way to outlaw fusion being used in court. So you would see less prosecutor fusions unless absolutely necessary.

This would imply to suspects as well, do you charge a fused murderer as one person or two? What if one of the parties were forced to commit the crime against their will? I have so many ideas about this, honestly. Questions are welcome.

[box-dwelling]

I'm sorry but the Thermis storyline is absolutely fascinating. Means and Courte being the opposite side of the Edgeworth and Phoenix vs Von Karma and Gant philosophy (also arguably the gavin brothers dichotomy) is a great dynamic to explore. This is like a fundamental overarching theme of the series and I like seeing how it's developed over the 7 year gap. Because it makes fucking sense! One of the best renowned Defense attorney's was accused of faking evidence but still fundamentally getting good results that were just and one of the most renowned prosecutors was revealed to have been using his dirty tactics to get unjust one's. It makes sense that Means would think Phoenix would be someone to have his students to aspire to be like, even if he doesn't understand what Phoenix's actual methods are. And it makes sense that Courte would want to distance herself as much as possible from the von karma methodology and teach her students to be different and Klavier is a shining example of just that. The time lines even line up. Klavier would have been 14 during PWAA so of course the ripple effects of that would affect him and his mentor.

[burningvelvet]

imagine the picture of dorian gray (1891) but dorian is jude law in wilde (1997) and lord henry is hugh grant in maurice (1987)

[virginiaoflykos]

What to read after Light Bringer? (Series similar to Red Rising)

August 2023 update!

Red Rising is my favorite series of all time, and since I first read it, I have sought series and books similar in both spirit and execution. Some of these recs are books I haven’t read personally, but have often come up in discussions with other users!

1. The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson

Status: ongoing, expected 10 books in total, 4/10 out at the moment

Book 1: The Way of Kings. The Way of Kings takes place on the world of Roshar, where war is constantly being waged on the Shattered Plains, and the Highprinces of Alethkar fight to avenge a king that died many moons ago.

2. The Craft Sequence by Max Gladstone

Status: finished, 6/6 books out.

Book 1 (in publication order): Three Parts Dead. Comprised of 6 standalone books set in the same universe, the Craft Sequence tells the tales of the city of Alt Coulumb. The city came out of the God Wars with one of its gods intact, Kos the Everburning. In return for the worship of his people, Kos provides heat and steam power to the citizens of Alt Coulumb; he is also the hub of a vast network of power relationships with other gods and god-like beings across the planet. Oh, and he has just died. If he isn’t revived in some form by the turn of the new moon, the city will descend into chaos and the finances of the globe will take a severe hit.

3. Hierarchy by James Islington

Status: ongoing, 1/3 planned books out

Book 1: The Will of the many. The Will of the Many tells the story of Vis, a young orphan who is adopted by one of the sociopolitical elites of the Hierarchy. Vis is tasked with entering a prestigious magical academy with one goal – ascend the ranks, figure out what the other major branches of the government are doing, and report back. However, that isn’t quite as easy as Vis or anyone else thought it was going to be…

4. Suneater by Christopher Ruocchio

Status: ongoing, 5/7 books out

Book 1: Empire of Silence. Hadrian is a man doomed to universal infamy after ordering the destruction of a sun to commit an unforgivable act of genocide. Told as a chronicle written by an older Hadrian, Empire of Silence details his earlier adventures and serves as an introduction to the characters and the setting.

5. Dune by Frank Herbert

Status: completed, 6/6 books out

Book 1: Dune. Set in the distant future amidst a feudal interstellar society in which various noble houses control planetary fiefs. It tells the story of young Paul Atreides, whose family accepts the stewardship of the planet Arrakis. While the planet is an inhospitable and sparsely populated desert wasteland, it is the only source of melange, or "spice", a drug that extends life and enhances mental abilities.

6. The Expanse by James S A Corey

Status: completed, 9/9 books out

Book 1: Leviathan wakes. Set hundreds of years in the future, after mankind has colonized the solar system. A hardened detective and a rogue ship's captain come together for what starts as a missing young woman and evolves into a race across the solar system to expose the greatest conspiracy in human history.

7. The First Law by Joe Abercrombie

Status: completed. 3 books in the original trilogy + 3 standalone books + 3 books in the newest trilogy

Book 1: The Blade Itself. The story follows the fortunes and misfortunes of bad people who do the right thing, good people who do the wrong thing, stupid people who do the stupid thing and, well, pretty much any combination of the above. Survival is no mean feat, and at the end of the day, dumb luck might be more of an asset than any amount of planning, skill, or noble intention.

8. Cradle by Will Wight

Status: completed, 12/12 books out

Book 1: Unsouled. Lindon is Unsouled, forbidden to learn the sacred arts of his clan. When faced with a looming fate he cannot ignore, he must rise beyond anything he's ever known...and forge his own Path

9. Hyperion Cantos by Dan Simmons (one PB’s favorites)

Status: completed, 4/4 books out

Book 1: Hyperion. The story weaves the interlocking tales of a diverse group of travelers sent on a pilgrimage to the Time Tombs on Hyperion. The travelers have been sent by the Church of the Final Atonement, alternately known as the Shrike Church, and the Hegemony (the government of the human star systems) to make a request of the Shrike. As they progress in their journey, each of the pilgrims tells their tale.

[dark-night-hero]

Getting to know my-

My Top 3 manhwa men: (Kartien my no.1)

Kartien & Kayden from Eleceed, Phineas from My In-laws are obsessed with me.

My top 3 manhwa couples:

Pershati & Therdeo from My in laws are obsessed with me. Asha & Carlisle from Age of arrogance. Hestia & Caelus from For my derelict favorite.

Top 3 manhwa dads:

I HAVE A THING FOR SILVER HAIRED DADS? I THOUGHT I LIKE 2D GUYS WITH RED HAIR?!

Anyways, i forgot the name of the first guy but he is the father of the FL in There is no place for fake princess. Second is Abel Heilon/Helion from Author of my own destiny. Third is from a manhwa promo, novel completed, Theodore Dubbled from Baby raising devil.

[milesdadworth]

okay but what if they make an ace attorney investigations style game w klav and ema trying to uncover everything kristoph was up to

[platt-tito]

I couldn't help it ausgshsh

Law as a Gelfling 🐌!

He should be from the Dousan clan since their culture remains a lot with him.

For them tattoos are an important part of their culture, with them they tell their life

They focus on the afterlife a lot, so their lives are simple and inmaterial

They're characterized by being solitary and silent.

And curiously, they live in boats that sail through the sands of the Crystal Sea 🐌☝🏽

[the-bar-sinister]

oh, "the dark age of the law"?

You mean when Von Karma was prosecuting for years? you mean Blaise Debeste and Damon Gant?

no? you meant after that?

well damn it's like getting rid of them did not fix anything then :c

[thoughtportal]

The silicon age is built on sand.

The things we love can disappear just like that.

Streaming changed everything. We pull from the cloud, not realising most of the content we buy is rented to us, not truly ours. Whether a Kindle book, or a film bought on iTunes; they can snatch it back in a heartbeat. Spotify's incompletion fucks with the canon, omitting beloved songs and albums based on licensing. Maybe a generation will grow up never having heard early Jay-Z, or Lana del Rey, deep cuts of Radiohead or the delights of Sapokanikan. Maybe their friends will never get into K-Pop. When George Lucas reworked Star Wars there was outrage; Disney makes stealth edits whenever it likes. People joke that future films and TV shows might just iterate - rush towards a deadline, patching ropey plot points and effects after the fact.

And cancelled artists don't have a chance. You had to burn a book, but a file's just gone. Maybe, like Amon Tobin, one errant sample gets your iconic track erased from the internet.

Because few people realise how delicate the cloud is. An outage freezes traffic, and one day might wipe out all those illicit remixes, all those emails, love notes. A million unprinted photos.

On a fragile internet, so much of our cultural wealth hangs in the balance.

All our beloved things. Tomorrow's dust.

[dungeons-and-dragon-age]

forever mad about how dirty they did aveline from act 2 onward

[trlvsn]

finished the second case of aa5 and i'm not going to lie it was stupid as hell and i did not enjoy the plot at all? the family themes in ace attorney are usually so nicely done but this whole "jinxie and her dad" business was just. eh. the possession thing they did with the defendant had no point to it and, honestly, very few things in this case had a point to it. the main idea is just "money make people go crazy" and as low as my expectations are for depth of a visual novel like aa5 it just isn't original at all and doesn't provoke too much thought. if i wasn't in it for the characters i would quit this game right now, but, alright, dlc case next, phoenix do your worst, and i will also keep doing my worst as the hater that i am

[aurore-dupin]

There is something so Klavier and Ema about the fucking uh “You don’t know me, but I know you” bit

[ashenberry]

I’m tired of pretending aj isn’t up to the quality of the trilogy

[russelross68]

dumbass deltarune oc/idea

Since there might be a trend of speech quirks throughout the bosses

Anjle's might be for a word at the end of it's sentence to be spelled backwards

Or

It's might be to refer to people in pronoun form as it and instead of saying gendered names like girl or boy.. It'll just use thing instead leading into it not believing in gender

Anyways, that's all for now.

[other-peoples-coats]

Thought that is gnawing gently on my brain right now: there a star wars equivalent to the zone of death?

like. on the one hand, every planet seems to kind of have their own laws but also share laws with every other planet in their...whatever the fuck you call a conglomeration of planets that is mostly functionally akin to a county and/or group of nations at best, with every planet part of it as like, a state/member country. Coruscant and Alderaan seem to have differing laws in some ways, and they're both core republic planets - surely the difference in norms gets even wilder between like, Alderaan and Mon Cala.

So: there has to be a place where the planetary boundaries/whatever overlap weird, and sure you have to have a local judge to decide a trial under, say, republic law, but the judge has to be a valid judge as under local laws, and one system says judges can only be Judgement Droids and the other system says trials are invalid if a droid even so much as touches the evidence.

or like, there's a moon that orbits a planet, and six months of the year, the planet is within republic space -- and the moon falls under republic law -- and three months of the year it's in, say, wild space -- so it's just the planetary laws that apply -- and for two weeks at whatever time of the year the planetary orbit brings the moon -- but not the planet -- into like. hutt space. whatever, in which case..the planetary laws don't apply? hutt laws do?? hutt laws and the planetary laws (and by extension republic laws) apply???

On the other hand. Surely the zone of death is less an issue, given how much the gffa legal system seems to run on 'it's not illegal if you don't get caught' at like, a societal level.

On the third hand, gffa version of this song when??