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As funny as the trolley problem and the suffering builds character memes are (and I do love them), I personally think it ascribes a belief to Miguel he doesn’t explicitly hold in the text.
“Bad things are gonna happen; it makes us who we are.“ is a line that belongs to Peter B. Miguel doesn’t even approach the idea to Miles of this model justifying the suffering it perpetuates, even if it’s an understandable byproduct because of what this model asks you to swallow, what it asks you to concede.
Why would he claim that suffering builds character? The one time he believes he defied fate, it backhanded him so hard he’s still reeling from the trauma, and it took at least 8 billion lives as collateral including Gabriella. What did that suffering teach him but a despairing submission to fate?
To Miguel’s understanding of what happened, there’s not even a trolley problem. It’s “you accept the terms fate deals you, or it will destroy everyone - including those you wanted to save - regardless”. His perspective is far more aligned to utilitarianism and fearing that massive human cost happening again, more than it is morally justifying why the canon operates as it does.
#atsv#miguel o’hara#tunes talks spiderverse#that man is in the terminal despair vortex guys#the very fact Miguel doesn’t question why his understanding of the canon operates as it does#serves to doublebind him back into his sunk cost fallacy thinking#he can’t turn back because it would make the costs worthless. and to question the canon would be to invoke what happened to him when he#tried to defy fate#<- all of this is to his mind I mean#the actual details areeeeeee complicated and don’t make complete sense. but I understand WHY he ignores those inconsistencies#because incredible recent trauma (within the past couple MONTHS) and to examine would be to make the sacrifices meaningless#not trying to dunk on Peter either. it’s just lots of different people trying to make sense of what they believe is a terrible but#necessary sacrifice to save the universe.
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the results are in


#the numbers are WAY TOO LOW espECIALLY TEMMY SOLO but i remembered#it's because half the time i'm listening to my ripped cds of the songs that AREN'T/WEREN'T ON STREAMING!!!!!!!!!! so double those numbres#but also a good reminder to bring back doublebind posting
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newsflash: if you walk into an appointment too informed you will be accused of playing 'dr. google' and then no one will take you seriously anyway
When I say that the medical system is failing me, your response shouldn't be "Google your symptoms" or "Only you can help yourself" because neither of those things are remotely helpful. Instead, treat those failed with by the system with empathy and get fucking mad over the injustice.
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the problem with internet politics (that is very clearly shown with how people reacted to the whole situation with the houthis) is that the prevailing belief is the opposite of bad is good, there's no such thing as a good or easy route in politics, you have bad guys and you have bad guys, you swap one oppressive force for another and that's the consistent chain throughout history, especially in an industrialized and globalized society we are now firmly in the geopolitical doublebind, you can't help one group without harming another, you can't stop one issue without causing i second, when war settles the only thing left is the ingredients for more war
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Note to Self #10
I'm the abusive one (or we both are) and learning that avoidance can be an abuse tactic is very difficult to realize.
I want to protect myself from danger.
What feels like danger?
Verbal jabs, eyerolls, jokes at my expense, dismissal, "this is for me, not for you", being treated differently than his other romantic relationship, doublebinds where no way is a good way to connect with him, not having my emotional needs met because they're his aversions, getting a taste of fond interaction before met with a week of silent treatment.
I want to take his power away before he victimizes me.
I don't talk. Don't share emotion. Don't express my needs. Don't share what's important to me.
I'll get dismissed. I'll get made fun of. Scoffed at. Yelled at. Fought with. Shut out. I'll share information just so it can be used against me later, much later, when I've forgotten about it.
What's "used against me" look like?
I've said something in confidence, and later that's used to justify a new behavior, a new expectation, a new insecurity, a new conflict. A new conflict that I don't want and never asked for. Shame? I interpret shame from it?
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Abuse is taking power away from someone else. It's a power dynamic. Withholding information steals power from people.
That's abusive.
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How do I survive abuse without becoming abusive myself?
Without giving them vulnerable information to manipulate? How?
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I had afew happy moments while painting. Then I received a phone call from female friend. She did a few poisondrippings. Took away from my ego. Lesson here, i let her pump up my ego. ( oh you are looking good cause of the workout you do. You having a nice Teint. Wow you repaired the lawn mower. You are exhaling, projecting a better energy. I didn’t had my ego barriers up. Let outside information influence my core, my ego. Woman are trying to pump your ego, just to put a needle with in the ego. And poison drip, spell double binds. Some nonsense story about i treated her bicycle right. In Reality a phone call before, I was too confident to her. She felt los of the control. And came with bike nonsense. I just checked she was putting her manipulation game on me, when continuing this post my inspiration, and good vibe where much lower. So how can my art, my work process amplify my deattachment from validation/ ego growth sneaking in from the outside? How can my art inspire myself, aswell as my artviewers having high ego barriers. Conotating all outside information from 2. / 3. persons being nice gestures, and that’s it. Fun art hunch, I guess the ‚ puma ‚ , wild cat like Silhouette inspired her, with in the Telefon conversation to come with bs like this. People can implict concious feel/ pace what you see, although via voice. #Awalt #Egobarriers #geste #poisondripping #Quarktaschen #Gesabbel #Redpilled #Doublebinds #compliancetest #compilancetest #Shittest #pua #frame #framecontrol #maytheframebewithyou #practicalfemalepsychology #disskutierienisttoxischeweiblichenergie #control #kontrolle #toohappy #tooconfident #zuglücklich #Nagging #femaleplatonicfriends #SEAK #ClausWinkler #SEAKClausWinkler #artprocess #lifeimitatesart #artimitateslife (hier: Psychology Department - University of Groningen) https://www.instagram.com/p/Ch2x9LYLIAP/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=
#awalt#egobarriers#geste#poisondripping#quarktaschen#gesabbel#redpilled#doublebinds#compliancetest#compilancetest#shittest#pua#frame#framecontrol#maytheframebewithyou#practicalfemalepsychology#disskutierienisttoxischeweiblichenergie#control#kontrolle#toohappy#tooconfident#zuglücklich#nagging#femaleplatonicfriends#seak#clauswinkler#seakclauswinkler#artprocess#lifeimitatesart#artimitateslife
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Morning In Normandy by andrilucas https://flic.kr/p/2ma9aau
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i don't personally agree with the perspective that "miguel NEEDS to partially correct about canon events, otherwise he's a villain" because like. setting aside the issue of possibly naturalising the irl choices writers made (e.g. fridging gwen) through the concept of 'canon events', to me defining miguel's morality comes down to two questions:
What is Miguel's intent when pursuing his goal? <- it's unambigiously heroic. he desires to save people. and -
Can I plausibly understand how he has come to the belief system (and therefore goal) he has? Yes. I can understand why, when viewing the things he did (universal patterns of suffering between spidermen & the trauma of that dimension collapse), he came to the conclusion he did.
Keep in mind the other bits of information we and the characters are working with are:
Anomalies seem to affect the world they're in (Vulture appears to affect the Guggenheim's structure w glitches)
They're also in danger of dying if they don't have a stabaliser like the watch
But say for the sake of argument Miguel is completely wrong about breaking canon and doing so would not endanger anyone and the alt dimension collapsed for reasons utterly out of Miguel's knowledge or control. That still doesn't negate the heroic intent he operated by nor his desire to save people.
What "How much or little is Miguel correct?" affects is how tragic it makes Miguel's guilt and the moral concessions he feels that guilt about. Whether you would argue for it being needlessly tragic or bleak is another conversation entirely but how correct he is about what damage canon events cause doesn't actually change the fact he operated on sincerely good and heroic intentions.. And I think atsv already sets up that last point in an understandable manner.
#long post#tunes talks spiderverse#she came. she never shut up about miguel. she posted fdshfkshdfjsd#the reason i outline the knowledge of what seems to be the unquestionable consequences of anomalies in alt worlds#is so you can understand why miguel occum razor's miles changing canon as the reason theres a black hole under pav's world#we've already been shown it's possible for anomalies to affect the stability of a world (this seems to be a quiet change from itsv) and#spot firing up a baby collider and using his powers didnt open up a black hole under 1610 new york (as far as we know)#so if youre already predisposed to believing fucking w canon will cause harm i can understand WHY even if i think hes not correct#miguel and spider society assumes miles' action causes that unravelling. ESP when taken in conjunction w miguel believing his own world#jumping caused an unravelling and he applies that same fearful reasoning to whats happening here#i dont think hes correct but i understand WHY he came to conclusion he did esp when u keep in mind the kind of doublebind#miguel is IN already when it comes to being terrified hes got it wrong all over again but also being terrified of the stakes HE LITERALLY#THINKS HE EXPERIENCED (and he DID experience that trauma. even if it turns out it happened for a reason that wasnt his fault or even#related to him being in that dimension at all)
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This has to be mental illness
#i’ve had the same account since 2014 .#but that’s true we’re overdue for more REAL DOUBLEBIND HOURS
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El Trovador Maduro Robusto. #cigar #madeindominicanrepublic🇩🇴 #doublebinder #nicaraguanlongfillers🇳🇮 @pdrcigars #0dark30 https://www.instagram.com/p/Cp7Hrf3OpA4/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=
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scorpio, leo, gemini
I love scorpios (4 of my good friends are scorpios), leos aren’t bad but they’re pretty prideful (and with all the aries in my chart so am I which doesn’t make arguments go easily lol) & lastly I love gemini’s I think they generally have a comical / unique vibe to them… I’d say yes to date but I think we’d be really similar whether that’s for better or worse LOL
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My #art punishes my #artowners, when they ask women for there opinions too much with being #gaslighted & #doublebinded. My art is blessing my artowners when they treat the women like the oldest child in the family household . My art gives people soo much situational confidence, like the fake artificial confidence Cocaine gives. Women being highly aware which visual, in my case the art, supports there power, there sexual strategy (contrary to the male strategy). The #artowner asking there women for at advice brings them on ot a unreflected ego rush, where they self destruct themselfs, aswell as the asking artowner. Like a jealousy person masking lurking like a friend, giving bad advice, to not wanting to see you prosper. But! The same women can due my art can be although the good comrad, loyal buddy, wingmen, supportive donkey workhorse mule. Just because she is with in a other situation, it’s is not in business, strategy. For the #pickupart (#pua), #redpilled, #psychology aware #artwatcher/ #artinvestor. This could although be compliance test ( slang: shit test). I guess all this behavior patterns, are embedded in the commands, meanings, triggers with in my name. Women: Iam feeling like do your thing, stop asking me things. I interpretate your interest in doing somehting with me as beta weakness. Do it yourself. Iam using sentences with with words like ‘ not ‘, ‘ don’t , etc, to give you at least a semi passive agressive hint thru the flowers of do it, stop asking me. While although wanting your attention. My Mum always said in #affluent couples, each partner likes doing there own thing. I guess that is although reflect with in my name, and so in my #paintings. The #artowner asking the women gives the women too much validation. When she stops chasing your validation , she….? The painting in #picture, is a ‘ #K ‘. #SEAK #ClausWinkler #SEAKClausWinkler (hier: Zürich, Switzerland) https://www.instagram.com/p/CirkGKnIM44/?igshid=NGJjMDIxMWI=
#art#artowners#gaslighted#doublebinded#artowner#pickupart#pua#redpilled#psychology#artwatcher#artinvestor#affluent#paintings#picture#k#seak#clauswinkler#seakclauswinkler
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#fierce #doublebind #beyourself #rightnow #icommandyou (at Córdoba, Argentina) https://www.instagram.com/p/CLZTFGVn1sn/?igshid=2h06kl5rpl4j
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