#ejen ali salt

[thealienkidtm]

[Warning: Ejen Ali salt] Alilicia needs some work

I feel like there's more accounts of Alicia hurting Ali more than times she's been nice to him. And while some of it is deserved, others are just pure on excessive?

Like that time in Misi: Protocol Gegas where she straight up traps him in a gravity field and left him there WITH ENEMIES ROAMING AROUND while saying that it would be better for everyone if he left MATA OR the multiple times where she's punched him in the face with full force EVEN AFTER HE SAVED HER LIFE THAT ONE TIME?

Do people really expect Ali to just FORGET ALL THAT, move on and reciprocate her feelings??? Because I've been told something similar and it still hasn't left my mind. Imagine that with a 12 year old, geez.

It's like the opposite gender version of the "Oh he's bothering you a lot so it must mean he likes you!"

And while we do get glimpses of Alicia slowly getting a crush on Ali, we barely have any of Ali getting a crush on Alicia. (and no, I'm not taking account of that time in Misi: Seri, that boy did not know it was her)

I saw someone comment on his reaction about Alicia being called his girlfriend and someone said he's too young to understand or that he's dense and I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT NO, HE'S WELL AWARE OF WHAT A GIRLFRIEND IS (JUST LOOK AT HIS UNCLE'S HOPELESS ROMANTIC A** BEHAVIOUR FOR DAMN'S SAKE) HE'S JUST NOT INTO THE IDEA AT ALL

Ali looks uncomfortable here tbh and I don't blame him

To be honest, Alicia's not really good at the feeling's department or when it comes to comforting/relating to someone with their issues I'm looking at you, Ejen Ali the Movie and your audacious "MATA is your family" bullshit. I don't blame her however, it's pretty realistic for her character but she does need work in realising that her words of "caring" needs some awareness.

Also, even if we do eventually get Ali liking her back, I think they need to settle their tension and talk to each other about what exactly they are. (Are they partners? Acquaintances? Friends? I don't think even they're sure what they are)

I don't think Ali likes Alicia like that at all. We do see that his behaviour has become so mellow that he's willing to admit his mistakes and face the consequences while also opening up more to his friends and take up on their advice/criticsm (like we see him do with Rudy). Which is great! So great that he's even willing to try and get closer to Alicia as better friends.

However, I think that for him to even start liking her back, I feel like Alicia needs to start being nicer and talk to him more as well so they could have a more thoroughly established and grounded friendship instead of her AVOIDING HIM ALL THROUGHOUT SEASON 3💢

[jennycinco-5]

ML Zealot : Is that wrong we have female super evil villains ? Is a “GURLS POWAH” show and is make sense why Chloe and Lila are irredeemable bitch !!!!

Let me said something 

Yes ! You can have manipulative or remorseless and vilest evil female villain in the show ! 

BUT

Made them fascinating and enjoyed by fans and contribute for the main plot ! Made them engaging and  truly a threat by show that they are as dangerous as the male villain.

Out of four female villain and antagonist in Agent Ali ,Jenny/Cinco is consider to be more vile, intimidating and petty af woman. And she downright psychotic in recent episode (Season 2 Episode 12) where we can see her brutally beat and mocking her opponent and laugh like a maniac. In previous several episode She also done many terrible thing and almost injure the innocents.

Does the writer wanted us to hate her ? No. They never tell to fans to hate her character just because she is a villain and supposed more vilest than any previous big-bad (Uno and Niki). Hate her or like her is up to you

Then we have her foster sister Kim. She is sympathetic and show lot of more depth than Cinco. She willingly do anything to accomplished her mission from Cinco for sake of Numeros while she does show a remorse for harming innocent and the Main character pet cat. 

Does the writer wanted us to hate Kim too ? No ! Again is up to you to see her as sympathetic or not. And its up to you to still love her or hate her. 

Kim and Cinco are fascinating antagonists just like Dos and Niki. Even some of them admit they are cooler than Uno (the first big-bad of Agent Ali). Writer indeed know how to make them into competent villain like the previous one. 

Lets see on Chloe and Lila

The writer wanted us to hate them so badly to the point THAT GUY claim they are irredeemable monster than the the terrorist and abusive father. The narrative try hard to make them Super EVulZ despite they are a troubled teenager and willingly retcon anything to make them a heartless monster who more dangerous than the main villain while the main villain as a “tragic villain” who deserve to be rewarded because “I LOsE My wAIfu bOhOOOhooo! But ThIs Vor MaH FamIly~”. If you criticize the writer for writing on Chloe and Lila or a fans of these character, writer especially THAT GUY and the Zealot ML will claim that you are “Bully-apologizer” and “as bad as Chloe and Lila”. To make them “work” as “villain” writer make sure that the background character (children and adults) as idiotic as possible to make them look “intimidating” 

Most of Chloe and Lila evil-thing has no impact for the plot. They just do evulz thing because out of spite and THAT GUY hate them for burning passion and also a proof of THAT GUY is a misogynist and full of double-standard . Everytime I see the leaks about them made me roll my eyes.

Is the writer do the same thing on Uno ? Even if Uno has a depth compare to Cinco, writer didn’t paint him as “Tragic Villain” unlike what ML narrative do on Gabemoth. Uno was narcissistic and vengeful man. While he does have moment of humanizing his character, also hate the asshole mayor (Dato’ Othman) and the Chief Pillar aware that Djin betrayal become Uno was part of their fault, the narrative never paint him as “tragic villain” or blaming the Pillar Chief for Uno betrayal

For the other rest antagonist comparison I will write the longer thread in next time because I need to finish watch Agent Ali season 3.

[pega-chan]

anyway TIL that Ejen Ali is streaming on Disney+ Hostar Indonesia—just the two seasons, but not the MOVIE, like i was hoping for, even though all the AniMy movies are available on Disney+ Malaysia—simply while i was browsing the platform bc they didn't actually advertise it anywhere on their social media. to rub salt in the wound, the only available dubs for streaming there are the Disney English dub and the Indonesian dub, both of which i mildly despise. weirdly enough, there are Malay subtitles but they couldn't provide for the orginal Malay dub? anyway here are some of my thoughts on them:

English Dub

i've actually heard this one before on disney channel, but i skipped ahead to season 2 bc i was deathly curious about the young agents' voices

Jet: rich boy voice, it suits him ig

Roza: yeah her voice is deep but at first i didn't think it suited her that much, but in later episodes she actually sounds pretty good

Mika: 0/10. her voice is too high and nasally; bro it's supposed to be androgynous. at least they knew she's a girl and casted accordingly but i hate her english voice hhh

Chris: as the token White Character, he does sound like a white boy, and that's good enough for me. it suits him, but it sounds vaguely british. all the white characters in Ejen Ali sound british but Chris is like, the least british even though he's like a slice of white bread amongst all his malaysian classmates lmao

Iman: her voice suits her! i like it

Bulat: PERFECT. flawless as always. i love my son

Khai: love Khai's voice, it's nice

Moon: she sounds adorable. love it

Rudy: i heard from foreign fans who watched EA on disney channel that his voice was attractive, and they were right. holy shit. what a great day to remember i'm bi

Leon: for some reason he has a british accent JFBSJDBJ???? i thought he was malay, did the casting director think he's white? was he actually white and i just didn't notice???

Geetha: not...soft and motherly enough, but it's tolerable.

Bakar: i like it enough, he's jovial enough to fit the part

Karya: he's pretty good too! he's as suave as his malay counterpart

many of the OG malay VAs were brought in to reprise their roles in the english dub so of course the voices fit, i'm just reviewing the voices i haven't heard before

Aaron/Nueve: FULL ON BRITISH ACCENT, and he sounds great! grade A casting

Sies and Siete: they do sound sleazy, i give them that. they're a meh for me.

Sinco: 8/10, i don't have much to say except his voice fits.

Also they translated "teras" as "core" JFNJD i'm DYING, the official translation from Wau staff is "pillar". IT'S PILLAR GODDAMMIT

Indonesian Dub

Ali: he sounds adorable. i think he's voiced by the same VA who did Indonesian Naruto, he sounds a lot like him

Alicia: her voice is okay tbh but her acting needs a little work. she's too expressive for Alicia, who always sounds controlled and menacing. also the indonesian VAs pronounce her name as "Ah-lee-see-ya", which throws me off

Bakar: his VA nailed it! he's fantastic

Rama: to his credit he has the gruff general tone down pat. what REALLY bothers me is how the script writers decide to tamper with his quote, even though it's literally the same in Indonesian and Malay. in this dub, they switched it around and made him say "segera bertindak", it sounds so off

Uno: i think he fits, almost like the OG VA, 9/10

Jenny: this one was surprising. Her voice isn't as high-pitched as Meirysha's, but still fits Jenny. however, Meirysha was directed to voice Jenny so she sounded cold and flat no matter how friendly she was, and this didn't translate into the indonesian dub. 8/10

Rizwan: very similar to Azman?! wow. also the acting is good (good enough for the dialogue, which is stilted and formal). 10/10

Jet: HE SOUNDS LIKE A JAKARTAN AJDBJDNF okay but legit expected him to break out into english the way rich jakartan kids do, he sounds like a radio personality to some extent jxjfjf

Roza: her voice isn't deep enough, and doesn't suit her

Mika: OKAY THIS ONE IS FUNNY SJBF they first thought Mika was a boy so they casted her with this really manly voice in her first appearance. they rectified this in the later episodes, where, like in the Malay dub, she had an androgynous voice that was MARVELOUS, but i was still distraught hearing a teen boy's voice come out of her mouth. congrats

Chris: i was half-hoping they would give him a Minang accent but he sounds just as city-boy rich as Jet.

Iman: she has the opposite problem to Roza's; her voice is TOO deep. i feel like their VAs should've been switched and it would've sounded better, though neither of them suit their characters that much

Bulat: they got his voice down nicely. see? my son sounds great in any dub. he shines regardless of the circumstances

Khai: he sounds exactly like Khairul holy crap, 10/10

Moon: this is the opposite to Alicia's problem; her acting isn't expressive enough, but her voice sounds cute.

Rudy: it's meh. he really could've been better, he doesn't sound sullen enough either.

Geetha: now THIS is good casting. actually sounds motherly and i like her acting

Leon: he doesn't sound gruff enough :(

Karya: love this guy's voice, i think Karya's character shines through with his acting

Dos: it's like. adjacent to Dos' malay voice. it's good enough

Tres: Tres is easy to cast for, since he sounds so typical, so of course he sounds identical to the OG voice

Aaron: he has the same tone as the OG Aaron, god bless his VA. 10/10

Sies and Siete: they sound like the guys who degraded me in middle school, eugh. in other words, perfect casting

Sinco: i like how he sounds, and i think his acting is okay

[invisoble]

tujuan review

the ejen ali fandom is currently in an emotional mess

ok, now where do i start...

i guess the only sane person in invizo is moon. whY JUST WHY

why

why Why why

WhY

i have

SO MUCH QUESTIONS

. im in the state of shocked wau had me yet again, but so far this is the most shocking ep i’ve ever watched

how do i review this everything just hit me like a truck. the fighting scene really broke my heart into pieces. now we know so far; how iris works. the device is highly unstable, seeing how ali couldn’t even recognized khai, moon and iman AND EVEN COMOT all together OH DEAR GOD. when override ali attacked all three of them boi i was about to fLIP. iman certainly had a good amount of screentime to show her skills, and it was amazing i tell you. sadly iris is too powerful for her, thus her defeat.

rizwan Oh man someone hold me HE KEEPS MAKING THAT REGRETFUL FACE WHY

WHY

WHY???!? he rly followed dos just to see uno ah the scene in the old building room got me broke man. at that time i couldnt read him at all on this ep they revealed the core leaders (which explains that today was pretty intense). oh general butterful ;__; alicia go and hug your dad he deserves better. i got completely thrown off when rama showed sadness and shocked that another of his trusted agent betrayed mata. once he left, the meeting of the current three core leaders begin. i, personally did not like ganz. he’s too...idk how to say this um headstrong? dayang gives me another vibe of dislike too idek why skdsnjd she wants to separate ali and the iris. so i see they’ve told rizwan the truth, and further blaming that he followed his emotions and past bonding towards djin. to put more salt, rizwan sees djin as a part of his fam. but then zain cut me off, which leads me to a mass confusion. said zain, rizwan is much like djin as they go on their own ways, then saying riz has his reasons. i take it as zain rly trust rizwan. meanwhile here i am not knowing who do i side with tbh. for now, i trusted zain, since he so far, believes in ali onto the sickbay scene. moon and jet interacted!! they were the original dynamic duo until moon sided with ali. here i can tell how jet feels. maybe he’s just that loud and blunt (telling moon to not be friends with ali wow ok smooth move jet), but i know he cares for moon. in this case we can see the little agents trying to defend their injured friend from the newbie (ali) who they now sees as a threat. mika, jet and roza were quick to attack him, same goes with rudy, who needs to be held back by jet when it comes to the mention of his lord and saviour role model djin. when ali told them the truth, they wouldn’t believe him, which is horrible. then again, they all had mutual feelings towards each other, so they won’t know how one experiences this and that. another thing is that they look down on ali, simply because he’s a no-good kid with the iris. ali couldn’t handle the pressure and ran away crying, slightly bumping into alicia at that. i was sad when moon couldn’t say anything throughout the situation, but seeing how she got injured by a friend, she might be unable to forgive him at the moment, or just couldn’t say anything due to her other friends. i do hope alicia, who personally know ali from the beginning, could hand a help to ali. its too much pressure for the 12-years-old kid its very sickening for me to watch back to riz and dos. i, really couldn’t bring myself to talk about rizwan. i personally like him. he, just like ali, has been put into pressure as well, but different. he told dos that he just wants to see him after knowing the truth, but dos didn’t believe him and there goes another fighting scene, but way brutal since it was many against one (thank god trez didn’t appear or else riz might yknow). new characters come kickin’ (no pun intended) in, which are the football twins seis and seite. theyre a bit annoying to me, but job well done on wau’s creativity. and there’s ali, troubled, throwing the iris away, which happened to land right in front of zain. ali ran down immediately and they had a conversation. can you believe i thought zain was ghazali the whole time when they didn’t show his face until they did. zain is really that father figure we don’t deserve good things. then he told about the truth about iris, and a younger djin and zain had a conflict about iris. and fast forward; thats where djin got heavily insane over power (+further adding that it was also djin who kinda glitched iris up, thus the instability of the iris itself). its like a prime motto where mata acts as a protector of cyberaya, not a leader. zain furthermore has encouraged ali, as ali’s first and prime reason about the iris is that he could do anything with it, especially to protect others. that’s where i’ve opened my eyes and see the truth. i cant believe i forgot about ali’s main trait. he’s been saving multiple lives from the start, flashing back to comot, ghazali and alicia. i blame myself for that, since wau often showed ali’s weakness right back when he did his heroic move. once ocho managed to trap him JENNY APPEARED KCDNNBJFNDJNDW I GOT INSANE. jenny really, darn she’s wicked as heck she gave me the chill. to be not safe for the children, rizwan nearly died until uno appeared.so there we have it. the cliffhanger. rizwan finally stepping in the uno card game, and zain putting his trust on ali to protect cyberaya and stop uno from getting iris

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...a week rest after a heated ep isn’t enough i need more time to process all of these. everything is just shocking, in a good and bad way mixed up together. i’m glad ejen ali isn’t rushed im thankful that it gave us time to think through. i just...i just hope that everything gets toned down in the next ep

[raevodia]

Ejen Ali S2 ep 8

MUCH SALTY

TOO MUCH SALT

REALLY SALTY

[jennycinco-5]

Miraculous Ladybug vs Agent Ali/Ejen Ali Comparison post : Introduction

So in my previous post about this mention about “Three Malaysian Superhero Cartoon have better handle than ML”. For anyone wonder what Cartoon I mean is “BoBoiBoy” “Ejen Ali (Agent Ali)” and “Mechamato”. All of this show have same demographic with Miraculous, a Kids Show with Action who also beloved by older viewer. 

While the three shows also have their specific flaws, they still have its consistency and better handle than Miraculous. The show creator and writers know what is the main core about the show. Its about Kids being Superhero and Secret Agents. Despite this, they still allow to bring some serious heavy issue or drama to make the show interesting instead of a fanservice. They do have some “soft reboot” to expand their world building and stuff but it never become messy like Miraculous.

Miraculous constantly has retcon and it become utterly MESS because The Writer feel viewer are idiots and only care about the ships. This is make The Writer and That Guy has zero idea what the show is about ! Its about a shojo-esque cartoon ? Its about silly teenage-romance ? Girls Power ? Family Drama ? They DON’T KNOW about that ! I would like to said this show is about a wild fantasy of grown-man about his “ideal virtual daughter” who obsessed with freaking white boy and that its ! 

Since I already see many of post who compare Miraculous with other show about the consistency and the handle, here I will make the same post with one of Malaysian Cartoon and I will choose this cartoon : 

For comparison post, I think Miraculous is deserve to be compared with Ejen Ali. Gotta admit this is my favorite show to the point my current Tumblr name “jennycinco-5″ is based from one of the villain of this show. I like to said that Ali is a “what if Adrien and Marinette become ONE CHARACTER but with good characterization and handle”. I said that because Ali share same parental neglect issue with Adrien after the death of their mother and he also have some Marinette personality. But the show handle him mooore better than Marinette and Adrien. Making Ali become lot more interesting as the story progress 

In this topic I will make a post about :

Comparison of Ali & Alicia vs Marinette & Adrien

Comparison of Aliya vs Emilie Agreste for being death mother who trigger the main plot

Comparison of how Ejen Ali vs Miraculous handle the serious issue for children 

Comparison of the Antagonist/Villains and how they “Humanize” them 

Comparison of IRIS and Miraculouses

Comparison of the Secondary Character like friends/allies and mentors

If you interest about Ejen Ali and curious about the show, you can watch it at Disney Hotstar. You can watch it from English Subs or English dub. Its still on going on Season 3. There is also the movie titled “Ejen Ali: The Movie” in there and you also can read a mini comic in webtoon title Ejen Ali : M A T A Secret Files about the series side story and all of them are canons especially the movie one since its explain about the world building and the lore of IRIS and the Agency

[thealienkidtm]

Warning: Ejen Ali salt

Ya know I feel like the academy thing is a scam

Like they recruit young kids to fight and send them out on dangerous missions and like with all that going on, what do the kids get in return???

I mean I get that Mika has a reason to be in service and like I understand why Rudy is there too but the other kids???

A lot of them were recruited because of their skills/talents and isn't using their abilities to do missions for this agency considered child labor??? Isn't that taking advantage of children??? Do they even get paid for their time and effort being agents????

And if yall even start saying things like "well the kids AGREED to this" "some of them WANT to be agents" YEAH BECAUSE THEYRE KIDS. THEYRE NAIVE AND LIKE UNDER 16?????? I'm pretty sure most of them don't even have a sense of self preservation

Like oh yeah, just provide a bunch of 10-15 year olds a bunch of dangerous high tech weapons and combat skills

surely nothing bad will happen like bullying or mental health issues or even potential death haha no siree