#emmyloss

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Any short film or media project can be submitted to film festivals pretty much off the bat so long as you appropriately own all the copyrighted material or have permission to use it

There's hundreds of smaller film festivals that ranboo could've submitted genloss too, including film festivals with focuses on experimental media like genloss is. But ranboo ran straight for an Emmy, the cream of the crop and literally nowhere else

It's both a mix of a massive ego and ignorance. Obviously I go to film school so this information was given to me by professors and it was discussed pretty extensively in class, but if Ranboo was genuinely trying to make genloss into anything, I don't think it's crazy to assume he should've submitted genloss to these film festivals that are much more in the lane of what genloss is

Also what peeves me off is because film makers have a crazy stupid amount of passion. I'm surrounded by them in my classes, my profs, we learn about them. And most of these people also have huge egos, and honestly what I've found is that very rarely can this ego be backed up by any substance.

But at the very least, they have an ego and they're trying to do something with it and actively putting in so many hours

Ranboo quite simply hasn't put in any time to make genloss, much like his extraordinarily misplaced budget, he didn't use his time where he shouldn've (don't worry one day I'll jump into your inbox and talk about the incredibly misplaced budget)

The way my particular program works is we all produce a short film at the end of each semester. We get a crew and actors and locations all on a college student budget and one of my classmates actually submitted their work for a film festival and got nominated for their category (very proud of them)

I didn't because I know my film wasn't very good. Am I proud of it, yes! I'm insanely happy with how it came out. But I have the self-awareness to know overall, it isn't this amazing thing that everyone needs to know about

Ranboo lacks this self-awareness, which along with any art, is absolutely critical for growth. Ranboo has never spoken about how he wishes he had done genloss differently or any regrets he had (aside from time crunch or things they couldn't make work) and that's how I know he didn't actually learn anything from this first run of genloss

Because the reality is, genloss wasn't good. And like my film, Ranboo can be proud of what he did as well as critical of the final product

An artist should always be their own worst critic because then they can see what the did wrong and then try and improve

Ranboo's biggest problems from my very limited perspective is a lack of understanding of how to tell a story, the lack of a backbone. He rushed genloss for an arbitrary reason. The production management was a joke too

To go for an Emmy, you're saying you think you are good enough for the highest prestige and that you believe that you've put in the appropriate amount of time and hours and that your work is worthy of gaining international recognition. And if Ranboo submitted it for the meme, that makes it worse. It shows his complete and utter lack of respect for the craft

Now, do bad movies exist, yes. Do I love some bad movies, also yes. But never have you heard of these directors hyping up these movies the way Ranboo has. And yeah, sometimes movies are cashgrabs. But again, the attitude ranboo carries as the director of genloss rubs me and so many other people so wrong as well as the attitude of boobers who think genloss is peak media. I can easily admit a movie I really like is objectively terrible but I still find enjoyment but boobers would flay you for daring say genloss isn't good (shout out live action Scooby Doo movies. They're absolutely terrible but they're fun to watch and I have fond memories of them from my childhood)

Apologies for the essay

-film student anon

film student anon this essay is wonderful. theres so much here i don't think i could reply to it all, and i really appreciated your takes on film festivals and passion projects vs the emmys. some of my favorite bits:

There's hundreds of smaller film festivals that ranboo could've submitted genloss too, including film festivals with focuses on experimental media like genloss is. But ranboo ran straight for an Emmy, the cream of the crop and literally nowhere else

To go for an Emmy, you're saying you think you are good enough for the highest prestige and that you believe that you've put in the appropriate amount of time and hours and that your work is worthy of gaining international recognition.

so big brain here. i would just keep quoting your ask in my reply because you make a ton of great points of effort not equaling quality.

i think the thing that gets me is that your first try of something is never going to be perfect. even with all the practice in the world your first try always is a bit messy, and that's how you get experience. but by submitting it for an emmy, it implies this first try was perfect, or at least close enough to be considered for such a high award. and like.. it wasn't horrible but it certainly had flaws.

i'll be so curious to see what happens with all this when the nominees get announced and what the fandom does with whatever happens

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emmyloss confirmed real. they didn't get the nomination y'all

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doesn't an edited version defeat the purpose of a live, interactive event...

it's almost like.. there was a better way to do it all along..

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its unprompted thought time from the mod, but if ranboo is releasing the founder's cut to be a better version of the livestreamed gen loss, then.. why would he even want to submit gen loss for an emmy?

like.. if you have to make it better in editing.. and therefore regonize there are flaws.. doesn't that mean.. it's probably not worth winning an emmy in it's original form? whats the point in submitting the worse version of something when you have to know it's weaker because you're literally editing it to make it better

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ranboo applied genloss for an emmy before any of it was released, the deadline for applications was may 9th, he probably didn’t know it was going to be as badly received as it was. it shows how over confident and self obsessed he is that he’d apply for a fucking emmy before even being able receiving any kind of feedback on it.

the confidence to do that is off the charts christ

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If GenLoss did the impossible and actually won an Emmy while In Space With Markiplier didn't, that would have been my thirteenth reason.

oh my god i would die. @bidream would be dead in a ditch somewhere. it would all be over

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W/ all the emmy talk going on, I've got to get my two cents in and like. Even if Gen loss *does* score the nomination, I feel like nobody's really mentioned how... I guess lame the category it's in is? No offense but "Outstanding Emerging Media Program" is like a niche within a niche. That's like. a nothing award basically, especially considering I've been digging around and it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to find anything about this category unless you get really specific. Searching up the name of the category itself doesn't even yield the category it's a bunch of like, starter tech companies.

Honestly would not be surprised if Ranboo applied for this category just because it was the only one he had a shot at winning. Lol. Lmao

that's actually a great point anon. what would i do without you guys

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calling the emmy situation emmyloss bc he sure as hell won't get an emmywin

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It’s not just that he didn’t know how it would be received, he also literally did not know how it was going to turn out even if everything went perfectly. Live improv is a risky choice for untrained actors. Streamers get away with making basic mistakes in improv because they’re not normally held to the same standards as professional actors

no experience acting + no experience livestreaming a complicated, multihour show = yeah i'm sure it'll be emmy worthy