spoiler!!! s2 good omens
I'm not sure if what I'm about to blabber about is meant to mean something else entirely, but I kinda thought in s2 they have sort of established, or confirmed, that Crowley was an archangel before he fell.
So, let me start with this conversation here in the second ep
Note the "only the mightiest of archangels"
Then Crowley says this
And she didn't laugh. It wasn't a joke. She didn't think it was ridiculous, she didn't mock him for saying that. It was a seriously possible scenario that Crowley did that kind of miracle (bc he was capable of such)
Then, of course, these scenes in ep 6
He casually opens it, confirming he was high in ranking as an angel.
Then this shot follows which really felt like they were making it obvious that Crowley was an archangel
The way it focuses on Crowley in this specific statement.
That's all I've got, really. But I really felt like they were making it obvious and pointing out that Crowley was an archangel.
Ep 2, in that car, the conversation they had, when I first watched it, I really 'knew' they were confirming him as once an archangel. Unless there was a rank above archangel and so, Crowley was that then.
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Bonus, if I am right
then it's a running joke that archangels don't remember saraqael lmao
Btw, I'm not really fond or, let's say, attached to the idea of Crowley being once an archangel. Like, I don't really care who he used to be. I just made this post bc I haven't seen anyone point out how the show has been dropping hints.
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Remember how Zuko confronted Ozai about how his treatment of him as a child was wrong after years of groveling and trying to please him
Ozai said it was for his own good but Zuko was absolute in calling him out for it being cruel and abusive
Was some good shit
Adrien sort of has this epiphany and convo with Gabriel in Revolution
The ending of Recreation feels like if Zuko was like you know what actually Ozai was kind of lit
😭
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I’ve seen some complaints that Gabriel had somehow been redeemed in the finale, and that the show was disgusting for celebrating an abuser, and like
No
That’s the exact opposite of what happened
Marinette made it a point to give Gabriel one last chance to take accountability and finally become a good father to Adrien. Not only did he turn her down, but he straight up attacked her and carried on with his plan, convinced of his own moral superiority the entire time
Whether or not his last act was to bring back Emilie or to try to fix the damage he caused ultimately does not matter. It has been hammered into our brains, repeatedly, that making the wish is dangerous, irresponsible, and a refusal to accept the notion of mortality AS A GROWN ASS ADULT. But whatever the inevitable consequences turn out to be — he won’t be around to experience them.
We know what a redemption arc (admittedly incomplete, but hopefully on its way to being wrapped up in S6) looks like in Miraculous, and it’s significant that this jerk managed to miss all the marks a fourteen-year-old successfully hit:
Gabriel will never have to face any legal repercussions for terrorising an entire city for a year, nor for trying to take over the world. He will never have to explain to Adrien what this cruel charade was all for. This poor child is going to break next season, and that statue is 1,000% getting cataclysmed, but it doesn’t matter. The person who hurt him isn’t there anymore. No justice can be achieved.
In other words, he did not get redeemed. He pulled a Shadow Weaver.
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imagine, say, Bunnyx went back to Origins Season 1 and pulled Gabriel aside as he was considering picking up the Hawkmoth mantle and showed him, "Look, Gabriel. If you continue on this path, you WILL succeed in getting the Ladybug and Black Cat miraculous. You WILL make a wish. But getting there will tear you apart. You will lose what humanity you have, you will literally rot away from the inside, spend the last months of your life in agonizing pain, Nathalie and Adrien (the only two people in your life you can even pretend to care about) will spit on your name and Nathalie will grow to despise you so much she will attempt to kill you. And your wish? It will NEVER bring Emilie back. You won't even be able to bring yourself to do it, because you'll realize that you've become everything that she hated and never wanted you to be. Emilie WILL STAY DEAD, and in the end, all you will be able to wish for is an end to your now-miserable life. All this gamble will win you is your grave."
idk I just don't think Gabriel's response to that would be "oh yay! I win!"
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Even now, with his father lost to the universe, and not even a body to bury, Gabriel was still here. He was in his room, in all the belongings his money had bought, in all the clothes that bore his brand. He was in the Miraculous on Adrien’s hand, the twin rings hanging from a chain he could never remove, in all the words Ladybug refused to tell Chat Noir. And he was in the statue in the Place des Vosges, immortalized in gold, looking out at the city with serene contemplation, but never down at Adrien. Never again.
“He was Monarque,” Adrien spoke into the darkness. Maybe Plagg could hear, maybe not. His Kwami was always good about knowing just what Adrien wanted him to know. “My father was Monarque.”
His words hung hollow in the silence, their weight somehow growing heavier on Adrien’s chest as he spoke. The voice didn’t answer, keeping silent long enough for Adrien to wonder, once more, if he really had imagined it.
Then it was there again, as close and clear as though its speaker was in the room with him. You’re Chat Noir, it told him firmly. Cataclysm his statue.
moonie i'm obsessed.
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it occurs to me that not everyone has heard Gianni's Gabriel lines from the Unfortunate Spacemen / ULTRAKILL crossover
these are from 2021, a year before Act 2 was released, so his characterization is... distinctly more pompous
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