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#girlboss moment. girl makes a decision for herself. immediately dies.
sciderman · 8 months
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Okay okay I see your point on how in the comics the shock alone could kill her, personally I don’t think the shock ALONE killed her. I feel like no matter what Peter did she would’ve died anyway, either she would’ve hit the ground at a high enough velocity that her bones would’ve shattered or just her skull would’ve shattered causing her to die, or (what actually happened) is Peter webbed Gwen and the force that changed her center of gravity was so strong that it broke her back and caused her to die.
But now I bring you, The Amazing Spider-man 2 movie. HEAR ME OUT HERE OKAY!! The movie is technically a canon of its own so I will be using this as reasoning 😈
In Tasm2 during Gwen’s falling sequence you can clearly see her, her eyes are open and her body is moving, her hands are out and she is reaching for Peter to save her (like he did in the first movie when he threw her out of the window while fighting Doc Connors and caught her with his web) Gwen is actively moving and if I’m not mistaken she also yells peters name during this time.
Gwen wouldn’t have died of shock here because if she actually was in shock it would’ve started the moment Harry dropped her. With this there are still only two ways she would’ve died, hit her head, or broke her back like what ended up happening. We all know either way Peter would’ve blamed himself but I argue that a third outcome could’ve happened. If Peter was just a little bit faster and if he was less focused on Harry and the clock tower I believe he actually could’ve saved Gwen instead of breaking her spine.
I KNOW YOURE MAINLY A COMIC BLOG BTW BUT I JS LOVE THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN AND NEEDED A REASON TO TALK SBT IT THANK YOU 😄😄
thank you for this delightful ask about the horrific manner of gwen stacy's death!
oh yeah no sir no question, in tasm2 peter was just too late. gwen’s head hit the ground. you hear the sound. she hit the ground. harry took it and threw it on the GROUND.
absolutely the tasm2 movie (and no way home that followed) kind of make it clear that peter underperformed. he was too slow. but. but.
but.
i think in tasm2 it's kind of more complicated. in 616 gwen is entirely passive. to the point where she is completely immobile. she isn't aware of what's going on around her. she's unconscious before the fall, she's powerless to do anything that could've prevented her demise. it's all on peter to save her.
gwen in tasm2 – she's – she's a little different.
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they kind of hammer this one home. fact is, if gwen had listened to peter. she would, in all likelihood, still be alive. peter tried. he wasn't too late. he tried to prevent it, before gwen was in immediate danger. he did what he could. it wasn't enough to stop gwen, but – what else? lock her in a basement? what can he do? gwen could have made the choice to stay out of the way and stay alive. it was not all on peter. he did what he could.
so. i don't think it's fair to tasm peter to say he didn't act in time. he in fact, acted ahead of time, gwen didn't listen, gwen got herself into trouble, and, despite peter doing everything he could, he couldn't save her. that responsibility should not have been on his shoulders. gwen should've been out of the line of fire, like he tried to do. he shouldn't bear that guilt. it was not his fault. it was gwen's choice. it was gwen's.
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and unlike 616 gwen, i bet we do know what tasm gwen was thinking in her last moments.
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oooooh lord i fucked uuuup why did i do it to myself ohhh god gwen what have you dooooone ouuuugghhhhh one last big fuck-up way to gooo gwen no coming back from this one ouuuuuughhhhhh
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long and short of it. andrew garfield IS NOT GUILTY of the death of gwen stacy. she did it to herself and she did it to him.
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bohemian-nights · 9 months
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The way Rhaenyra stans boast about criticising other female characters (Alicent) for making bad decisions but when it’s their feminist girlboss icon Rhaenyra they’re silent 🔇
I swear their only argument is “Rhaenyra was born to rule” okay idc she and Aegon still suck ass as rulers. I would prefer for another woman later in the bloodline to be the first female heir instead of her.
“She’s giving woman rights 🥺” no she’s giving HERSELF rights. I swear if you’d got raped by one of her lovers she’d only get upset at the fact that he desired u.
“Alicent made her hand over the babe after she gave birth 🥺” I truly don’t give a fuck about how Rhaenyra made herself look extra weak in court to make Alicent (who I dislike as well) look bad
“Her sons were being bullied by Aemond 🥺” well maybe miss maegor should teach them how to hold their own and being competent rulers instead of only empathising how they’re heirs. If brunette #1 would ever be ruler, he’d have to continue ruling on threats because of the rumours.
Besides, I have no problem to people thinking Rhaenicent could be. But istg let woman be foes for once. 2 women fighting and it’s immediately “they were secretly lovers longing from each other 🥺” NO. LET THEM HATE. LET THEM BE FOES AND LET THEM EXPRESS ANGER. Not every feud between women has to be a secret la di da romance fuck the patriarchy moment 🤗
Anyways Baela will never end up with weak boy 1 she’s too much for him to handle 😍
And Olivia Cooke needs to stop fabricating those head-canons of her as canon stuff. She has her own opinion about the characters, that’s alright, but her little girl crush on Emma D’arcy shouldn’t reflect on the characters cause now we got dumbass fans thinking the actor’s and actresses’ words are law. I don’t need her white woman london feminism mingling into the already disaster that is HOTD.
That being said, only praises to Baela, Rhaena, Aemond (He’s villainy but he’s dutiful and I like that), Helaena, Daeron, and Sara Snow. Fuck everyone that degrades Sara Snow for Jacela or whatever people call that sinking ship
You aren’t wrong. The only thing I have to say is that that a lot of stuff said by these people is said as a deflection because they stan a sh*tty character and have said some pretty deplorable things in her defense.
Case in point, they stan Jacela(no one wants Jace so they don’t care about Baela being with him) solely to deflect from the fact that they think it’s disgusting for Daemon to want Nettles when their white blonde self-insert is right there.
They hate on Aemond because he’s what they wish the strong boys were(look at all the Team Black fanfics where he switches sides and gets with their OC-created self-insert).
They attack Alicent and try to say she’s a racist religious freak who hates other women even though Missy Anne is the one who actively tried to kill a Black girl for the crime of sleeping with her husband.
In regard to Rancid, I think Olivia (and Emma) are being fed by the showrunners to play into it. At this point, it’s more than obvious that their characters' relationship is the central love story in this show. It’s silly and it makes zero sense past episode 8, but it’s unfortunately Ryan Condal's vision(this man is just 🫠).
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