#gituation

[fleflafiefie]

If it was just her first video that she was contradicted, I’d feel more likely to accept that she just wanted to add more information. But her changing her story/adding details that weren’t in that one long written statement seems absolutely crazy. She could have easily written this stuff down then, but she didn’t.

That’s a part of what makes some of this unbelievable to me

[dwtdog]

it has to be tough trying to navigate how to interact with your peers when so many of them thought you were some awful person but were still fake nice to your face :(

yeah. i think we talk a lot about how so many ccs have treated dteam but like the actual repercussions are so hard to fully understand :(

[dnfnoodles]

Is it bad to say I was always sceptical about the gituation claims...

I think because I'm a lot older than the majority of the fanbase and I've seen my fair share of false accusations against of not just other male CCs, but even in real life. Add on top of it the hatedom of dream, and by extension dream team, it's just logical to me to wait and see to me.

It's not that I want to disregard any harm done, it's that I hope that no harm was done at all in the first place and that I know the harmful effects of false accusations. The best action to me is to not say anything and wait and see.

Yeah I waited to see especially after drituation because it's important to get as much info possible before you decide anything. Also I was skeptical even more as we started learning even more. Like was she hurt by it? Yeah. But there was no intention of harm and I think it kinda shows the difference in older ccs who experienced some irl stuff before covid vs younger people in general who grew up during covid on the internet without interactions irl with people their age. They have different view of the world and personal boundaries. Don't want to like turn this into an essay but yeah the huge thing in that whole situation was miscommunication

[georgecunt]

this is really a genuine question because i’ve just fallen down the dnf hole after being out of the fandom for a while, but how are there still dnf truthers after the whole caiti situation?

like, okei there's a few points here. first point is that in any case, them hooking up with someone else doesn't disagree with my idea on what dnf are rn -> toxic ass yaoi, scared of commitment but still committing every single part of their lives . I have kinda a lot of thoughts on when they were more "officially" together, and when not but yea second is that i /gen 100% still think george is gay

[demonstars]

dream trying to say he wasn’t biased and everyone can trust his view of that night even though george has been his best friend for so long and then immediately confirmed how biased he was when he started crying over how much he loves george 😭 i love this crazy guy

ummmm. He has issues ❤️

[livingproofoftbd]

i just finished george's second response, and i can say for sure it's better. probably not perfect, but better.

he apologized consistently throughout, speaking directly to caiti as he did. he acknowledged that he messed up and promised to do better. he cleared up things he had gotten wrong in his first response and shared how his perspective had been changed with caiti's tweets. he used evidence to show how he thought he was right at the time, including the "over 21" wristbands and his chat with her including her age. and he validated caiti's feelings and expressed how he didn't want to diminish them.

i'm glad he did. thats what i was waiting for: an apology. i just hope he can show that he's using this experience to regulate how he acts with other ccs and non-ccs in the future. and i hope that caiti sees it and they can try to work any other issues out privately instead of creating more interent drama. i also hope that any other ccs that have a problem with george contact him and clear everything up together.

other than that, i'm glad he said what he said and how he said it. i'm glad he knows he fucked up, and he's not in the right. i'm glad he owned up to it and says he'll change.

[xomoosexo]

Making a new youtube account is literally what I did post-drituation too 😭 I couldn't bring myself to unsubscribe or see any minecraft-related content for a few weeks

yeah during the drituation I stayed basically the whole time and tortured myself until the weather was clear so I learned from my mistakes this time and cut my losses and tried to live in a minecraft free universe for ??? possibly ever idk how long I was gonna do that if it had actually be really bad

[fleflafiefie]

I believe Caiti said she’d stream again to talk more about the situation at some point (I might be wrong), so that may change my view of all this.

But people were so fucking fast to jump at George for the implication that he SA’d her, without even taking a second to wait for his response. I know that believing the victim is important, but when a fandom has a history of false accusations, you’d think they’d at least consider other possibilities.

I do support Caiti, that she may have been uncomfortable with with the situation, but if none of her friends even noticed that she was uncomfortable, then maybe she wasn’t very clear at all about what she was feeling. And claiming that George molested her is VERY DIFFERENT from someone reading the room wrong.

Dream posted on Reddit (blanket warning for SA just in case)

[fleflafiefie]

TikTok is almost as bad as Twitter btw, all I said is that people should watch George’s video from today if they want to keep talking about him. And people are getting mad at me for “supporting an abuser”.

I think they missed the point

[dwtdog]

i obviously hope george is reflecting on his actions but the reaction ccs are having seems "extreme"? just heard nolan edited cut him out of a video and he got edited out a Mr beast post, i honestly feel like i have nevee seen this crazy of a reaction from content creators themselves, even with worse accusations? Like am I crazy?

I cant help but feel terrible for george even tho he did something wrong, stuff like this will impact ur mental health so baldly and u never recover from this. idk what to say, yes he deserves being called out and def not praise but all these ppl wishing him to khs and his friends abandoning him and making him out to be a monster will not help the situation. feeling conflicted rn

i get feeling conflicted anon trust me, i feel like my opinion shifts constantly, but i do know this;

george made a mistake. he should be given the space to reflect on that and learn how to be better. from what we've seen, with him watching tina's stream, and with his twitter apology, and even from the stream he did even though it wasn't perfect, as far as we as the audience can see, he's actively trying to do just that

caiti was hurt by his actions. she was affected by his carelessness, and it fucked with her motivation to create content and her mental well-being. currently, she is being subjected to everyone on twitter going after george, with shockingly few people sending her support, with her friends going on tirades about him, and i can't imagine this is what she wanted.

the current reaction of calls for deplatforming, for deportation, for him to fucking kill himself, are so disproportionate to the actual situation at hand that they're having the opposite effect; people feel bad for george, understandably. and it shouldn't be like this. at all.

[demonstars]

is it a bad video

not really. i think its this one given the title and topic. and here is bananirou reacting to it. only skimmed because it makes me nervous to this day but he does a very neutral sweep over everything said and done and remarks more on what happened with gnf's reputation than anything and his conclusion is like "we can't know what happened only they know what occurred" which I guess it's okay. I assume this is the only way the news would've reached the spanish audience that isn't tapped in

[dnfity]

After I read your new fic I looked back at your others and was shocked you hadn’t posted porn before ?! It was so good PLEASE write more porn

😭 i wrote like 10k words worth of porn in just this fic alone STREAM

[xomoosexo]

people thought sapnap was never coming back from LA in March??? 😭 we were in the trenches fr huh

not me I was in the shakespeare subway surfers cry make a new youtube account so I don't have to see minecraft content manually unfollow every single person on twitch so I could still mod my friends chat without freaking out trenches

[fleflafiefie]

I swear, nobody actually cares about the situation itself, the “molestation” that happened was a poke/tickle. I’m not saying that that can’t be sexual, but holy fuck ya’ll make it seem like he went all the way or some shit.

twitter is very clearly on the train of 18 year olds can't consent again which is crazy. like throwing a bunch of buzzwords around to disguise that's what they're saying but it is. they wouldn't be acting any different if nobody had been drinking. and of course removing the context wildly away from sitting together on the couch in order to make it as vague and large and therefore worst case scenario possible

[droloismo]

i still think it’s funny i joined a few days before drituation and i could have easily left cause some guy i had just met wouldn’t be worth the stress but hey Here i am. still here

[dnfnoodles]

Oh yeah same i completely left twitter after last march when i realized how completely toxic everyone is and how overblown everything was. Sorry to bring it up but for the first few hours i legit thought that she got brutality assaulted the way people were acting💀

I cannot even describe how much better NOT being on twitter is. I only have it on my phone for dteam tweets and spaces now 🤷

Yeah march was my last point too. I don't even check their tweets on Twitter I deleted my account and uninstalled it completely, I just wait for update account here or someone posting it here.