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Cesare was twenty-two years of age at the time; tall, of an athletic slenderness, and exceedingly graceful in his movements, he was acknowledged to be the handomest man of his age. His face was long and pale, his brow loftly, his nose delicately aquiline. He had long auburn hair, and his hazel eyes, large, quick in their movements, and singularly searching in their glance, were alive with the genius of the soul behind them.

Rafael Sabatini  - The Life of Cesare Borgia

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Hello, I was wondering if there were any movies (?) exploring Frederick and Katte's relationship as a romance.

None that I'm aware of... Some of the documentaries have fruity subtext (and I think some of the movies do too, but the only thing I've seen is the first part of the Trenck miniseries which is... let's just say it's set later, I'm too tired to get into Frederick's romantic moments in that show) but I think one of the most romantic things ever recorded on film was this:

And Katte is in love with Wilhelmine in that (but if you want to subject yourself to the musical you can, i have a fully subbed version).

There are the operas and there is at least one play in English that portrays their relationship as romantic, so possible recordings of that would be a place to start (there is one somewhere, maybe @scribbled-anecdotes can help...?).

Other than that I can only recommend a few books, the newest of which would be Zeithain by Michael Roes from 2017. That one is an 800 page novel following Katte from around age 5 to his death and it's pretty good. Depressing and a little strange, but pretty good. I'd advise for anyone to skip the modern frame story though, I suspect Roes only used it to make sure nobody would ever get the idea that his book is a biography. Zeithain is explicit about Frederick and Katte having a romantic relationship, however, it's angsty as fuck and they both suck at communication and feelings. They have a few cute moments and they both explicitly say that they love the other, but they're both pretty messed up. Also the whole thing happens rather late in the book (but the chapters on Katte's childhood and youth are also very good, especially the one about his time at boarding school) and there is no English version as far as I'm aware.

Another book that's incredibly gay even though it's not explicitly gay is King in Prussia from 1944, written by Rafael Sabatini. I have only read parts of it, but my god, those parts were great. Very campy. Fritz longingly stares at Katte and his cousin fencing and throws himself onto couches dramatically. At some point he wears the most frilly pink and lilac suit imaginable. 1944 King in Prussia Fritz is somehow gayer than 2017 Zeithain Fritz who sleeps with men in the literal text.

And other than that there's always AO3! There's some good stuff in that tag and it's usually in English.

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Ahoy, mateys, this year at Escapade, we’re having an Age of Sail party!

Who’s ready for some TIKI MADNESS this year???

Just 27 days till the con! You know you want to come!

While theoretically, any fandom of the right era counts--or any fandom that’s about the navy or pirates--in practice, there are a few that fans usually mean: On the historical side, we have Horatio Hornblower, Master & Commander, and Sharpe--which isn’t even about ships! On the wackier, more fantasy side, we have Pirates of the Caribbean.

Personally, I look forward to the day someone other than me is into Piratas: El tesoro perdido de Yáñez el Sanguinario.

(Yes, that’s Cougar from The Losers as a rascally nobleman undercover as a pirate. Because reasons.)

Age of Sail fandoms are fantastic for, you guessed it: rum, sodomy, and the lash.

Especially the lash!

The fandoms above were a font of oldschool hurt/comfort goodness, and canon wasn’t far behind! Left for dead? Nursed back to health from a horrible fever? Forced to perform surgery on yourself? From abused teen woobie Archie Kennedy to Harper searching the battlefield for Sharpe’s body, these fandoms milked the h/c for all it was worth.

While there are only a few live action sources that got large fic fandoms, the list of Age of Sail canons is long. I’m partial to some of the boys’ adventure stuff, like that German adaptation of Jack Holborn (thanks, lilly_the_kid for tipping me off to that one). For kinky whipping masquerading as plot, look no further than that passage from Captain Blood by Raphael Sabatini...

And what better vidder to introduce us to Age of Sail than Rachael Sabotini aka wickedwords: Men by the Clucking Belles is a hilarious Hornblower vid from Vividcon 2003.

One of my favorite Age of Sail vids is the Master and Commander vid Ship of Fools by Cienna.

The fic sides of these fandoms used to hang out on lots of little rare lit slash archives and yahoo groups, all long gone now. But quite a bit can be found between AO3 and the fanlore pages for these various fandoms.

Age of Sail on Fanlore

Horatio Hornblower on Fanlore

Sharpe on Fanlore

Aubrey-Maturin on Fanlore

POTC on Fanlore

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“Vasari tells us, in his Vita degli Artefici, that over the door of one of the rooms in the Borgia Tower the artist painted a picture of the Virgin Mary in the likeness of Giulia Farnese (who posed to him as the model) with Alexander kneeling to her in adoration, arrayed in full pontificals. Such a thing would have been horrible, revolting, sacrilegious.”

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Way back in late March (Monday the 20th to be more precise), we were invited to attend an “Esteemed Members of the Media” gathering at Center City Philadelphia restaurant Aldine, where Boardroom Spirits, makers of B Beet Spirit, would be premiering C Carrot Spirit, their latest and greatest eau de vie style spirit made from 100% Real Carrots. Since Limpd couldn’t make it due to work commitments, my partner in crime at this event was our dear friend Rick. As expected, everything that we ate and drank at this delightfully casual event revolved around C and carrots. Here’s all that was on offer…

When we first arrived, we were greeted with samples of C which were served in long-stem eau de vie glasses that were topped with pretty little glass caps which I assume were being used to keep all of C’s aromas contained. The cap must have done its job because upon removing it, we were immediately hit with the aroma of freshly grated carrots, and a taste that reminded us of a very good Silver Tequila. While I would love to tell you more about the spirit itself, we’ll save our detailed tasting notes (Limpd needs to weigh in on this stuff!) for a future post which will include our attempts at cocktailing with C. For now, all I can say is that C Carrot Spirit made a very good first impression.

After our brief introduction to the spirit on its own, we moved on to trying the Classic Cocktail variations that Aldine’s bartender pulled together. Here’s the man in action…

For our first round of cocktails, Rick and I ordered the C-Sour and the C-Collins. While waiting for our hand crafted cocktails, we were treated to several unique carrot creations from the Aldine kitchen. One of the first things that we sampled was the Whole Wheat Bread and Carrot Butter. You wouldn’t think that something with such a mundane sounding name would be loaded with flavor, but let me tell you, it really was. The hearty pieces of fresh baked bread and creamy/savory/lightly sweet carrot butter went really well together. I found myself going back for that and all of the other bite sized snacks over and over again. With food that looks and tastes this good, you would do the exact same thing!

A Plethora of Carroty Deliciousness!

Carrot Croquettes

Whole Wheat Bread w/ Carrot Butter

Carrot Custard w/ Smoked Carrot Relish

Carrot Semifreddo w/ Salted Pistachio

Carrot Cake w/ Candied Carrot

While the Whole Wheat Bread and Carrot Butter was a binge worthy snack that would be a welcome addition to late night drinking sessions at The Barthenon, the one dish that impressed us most was the Carrot Custard with Smoked Carrot Relish. Did I mention that all of the dishes served during this event were 100% vegetarian? You would never know it when you tasted this Carrot Custard because the Smoked Carrot Relish that was sprinkled on top tasted just like smoked salmon. 

After that first round of snacks which helped get us ready for a couple rounds of cocktails, Rick and I went back to sampling our drinks. The winner of the first round was the C-Collins thanks to it’s subtle hit of ginger which added a little heat that went perfectly with all of the carrot-centric snacks. The C-Sour was no slouch, but we found it to be a bit too tart for our liking.

C-Collins

C-Sour

As is usually the case at events like this, at about the mid-point, our hosts from Boardroom Spirits (owner Marat Mamedov) and Aldine (owners George and Jennifer Sabatini, and head bartender Zeq) spoke briefly about where they drew inspiration for everything that we were eating and drinking. Words like “locally sourced” and “sustainable” were used often, and based upon the quality of everything that we ate and drank that night, I firmly believe that these people are committed to using the best of what’s available in their products, and whenever possible, sourcing those ingredients locally.

While I enjoy hearing about all of the work that goes into making a finished product (How It’s Made is always in the rotation at our house), most times, these talks tend to go on for a bit too long. Thankfully, Marat, George, Jennifer, and Zeq kept the lecturing to a minimum which allowed for more one-on-one conversations throughout the rest of the night. More importantly, it left us with more time to try the other cocktails and dishes while chatting with a few of the attendees and our hosts.

Marat Mamedov of Boardroom Spirits

Jennifer and George Sabatino

Bartender Zeq

For our second round of cocktails, we ordered the C-Rita and the C-Gimlet. Here’s what the finished products looked like:

C-Gimlet

C-Rita

Based upon taste alone, picking a winner between these two drinks isn’t that simple as both were deliciously tart and refreshing. Now if you just happen to be the type that would put a gun to my head and force me to pick a winner (as a native Sicilian, I can appreciate such extreme measures), I’d have to go with the C-Gimlet, but only because it was oh so pretty (and photogenic as hell!).

As we worked our way through our second round of drinks and tasty vittles, we managed to get some one-on-one time with Marat and Zsuzsa (Marat’s wife and co-owner of Boardroom Spirits). They gave us a bit more background about their products and mentioned other spirits that they currently have in development. We also talked about the cocktail possibilities for spirits such as B and C. Although it was a very short conversation, Marat and Zsuzsa came across as two highly knowledgable and very approachable people that love what they do, and that love to share their enthusiasm for what they do with anyone that will listen. We’re hoping to pay a visit to their Lansdale distillery very soon.

In case it wasn’t obvious in the words and photos up above, we had a superb time with the good folks of Boardroom Spirits and Aldine. Under normal circumstances, drinking on a Monday night isn’t usually the best way to start the work week, but when the food, drink, and company is this good, we’ll always make an exception and venture out to partake in the boozy fun!

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Many thanks to our friends at Food Shelter Public Relations for the invite!

THE #BoardroomSpirits "C" tasting at @aldinephilly! @FoodShelterPR #PhillyFood #Cocktails #Spirits Way back in late March (Monday the 20th to be more precise), we were invited to attend an "Esteemed Members of the Media" gathering at Center City Philadelphia restaurant…

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my lovely friend, tell me your favourite books about the borgias books so i can search for them in italy! thank you so much ♡

Thaaa my friend! you ask me a hard question?? b/c as you know, the Borgia historiography is a such a mess lool, but I’ll try my best ok?

Here’s what I’ll do, I’ll make a pros and cons for the books that I loved or found it tolerable overall:

Ivan Cloulas, The Borgias.

Pros: Lovely cover and writing! some interesting theories, good sources and Cloulas is possibly one of the few out there that is not an embarrassing apologist for Rodrigo, and he writes about Lucrezia with some respect. Fully acknowledging how much of a Borgia she was, clever and ambitious, very much involved in the family’s politics and how she was and remained extremely attached and loyal to them.  

Cons: As lovely as his writing is, the english translation at least, can get a little confusing at times. He also is fond of that ol’ historian habit of saying his opinions as facts, and making claims without any source to back it up. Example: when he says that Cesare’s alleged hate for Juan grew bigger after Lucrezia suddenly left for the convent of San Sisto, it’s merely a guess of his, since there’s nothing pointing to that at all. But the way he writes makes it seem like it’s a fact, so know, it should be read with a grain of salt.

José Catalán Deus, El Príncipe del Renacimiento: Vida y Leyenda de César Borgia.

Pros: Almost everything?? I seriously cannot stop gushing over this bio. It’s just so amazing. Deus was/is a journalist and it shows because his work is thorough, and he is simply not interested in perpetuating old Borgia myths, especially about Cesare. He quotes other historians and their different theories, along with primary sources. He never claims things he cannot proof. Wherever he states an opinion of his, he makes it clear is his opinion. He make us questions things too. it’s such an refreshing and captivating read.

Cons: His theories sometimes get a little wild haha, but as I said above, he doesn’t force you to believe them, he merely presents them to you, and why he thinks it’s possible, and it’s up to you to follow it or not. His writing on Lucrezia is rather lacking, but that’s basically it?! it really is a serious and worthy biography about Cesare and I can never thank him enough for it. (I hope you can find it in Italy Tha!)

Rafael Sabatini, The Life of Cesare Borgia.

Pros: His writing and his sense of humour! he is very meticulous with his sources, so at the end of every chapter, there are notes, which it’s what I live for. there are a few misinformation, but it’s rather due to the time that the book was published than glaring, lazy mistakes (like some modern ones). He tends to be fair to both Rodrigo and Cesare, not all the time, but overall it’s fine, even though he is a crazy stan of the former heh. His bio in my opinion focus a lot more on Cesare’s politics than anything else.Cons: It’s not a beginner’s book imo, and If you want to know more about Cesare as a person, you’re not getting it with his bio lol. He tries very little to humanize Cesare, and actually exaggerates on some of his personality traits I think. Again, he is a Rodrigo stan (Borgia scholars in general are and will go to ridiculous lengths to rehabilitate his image) so be aware of that.

The Borgias: The Hidden History, G.J Meyer.

Pros: His chapters about the history of Italy/Vatican really. It’s the only reason he is on this list lol. When trying to understand the Borgia family, I think it helps to understand their times and the institution of the Catholic Church, plus the politics of the major Italian States and how the powerful families such as the Orsini, Colonna, Malatesta, D’Este etc actually achieved their powerful stance. Meyer does a superb job at that. His writing is also pretty good and his sources are ok.

Cons: He’s also an insane Rodrigo stan, and that actually dragged his book to the ground. It could have been great imo, but he just…he doesn’t know when to stop wherever Rodrigo comes into the picture. It is a shame. He gives you crazy theories, that he cannot back it up with proof, and unlike Deus, he is pretty arrogant about it, and lowkey tries to force you into believing them. He is not very kind to women, and pretty much ignores Lucrezia, which honestly it’s not that bad when you consider how she is always posit by Borgia historians lol 😡😡😡.And I think those are the main ones. There are others I’ve read, such as Chamberlin and Hibbert’s bios, along with Woodward’s bio that I’m currently reading, but I wouldn’t say there are worth buying you know? like save your money to buy other stuff and get a PDF copy somewhere lol.