#greft

[traderoftrouble]

Thymara: yeah I don't want to risk getting pregnant since it is an extremely dangerous thing for both me and the baby since we're in the bush and there's no trained doctor or anything plus my biology may not even be compatible with having a kid increasing the chance of a traumatic pregnancy so sorry no sex.

Tats: so you hate me and are a bitch.

Thymara:

Also thank GOD Greft is being divorced by the dragons like that fucking creep is NOT an epic dragon keeper.

YAY HE IS DEAD YAYA YAYAYAYYAYAYAYA

[noones-untruly]

Idk what is it in these books, but Robin Hobb continuously makes my ass explode like a fucking thermonuclear bomb because of some men. I've only hate two living beings as strong as I hate these four fictional men. And what makes it even worse is that one of them is quite rational at being an asshole. He is a brainwashed kid and he doesn't realise how much of a fucking moron he is by doing the things he does. Hobb is a fucking genius of writing most disgusting, pathetic and despicable creatures.

I could even make tier list of them, but I don't wanna give any of them the privilege of being number one, so I'll just go in the chronical orded of how I came to hate them: regal (self explanatory), kyle (just fucking kyle), hest (he's a bitch that doesn't know what consent is, so fuck him in the ass), and the last and most definitely the leas is greft (not even fuck him, leave him in celibacy until the very end of everything).

Guess who made me angry today.

[lizardsfromspace]

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[detaylari]

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[mutant-distraction]

Sander Grefte

Salt piles and condenser ponds in Bonaire, Dutch Caribbean.

[delicatuscii-wasbella102]

Bonaire, Dutch Carribean By Sander Grefte "Bonaire is known for its distinctive pink lakes, primarily the Pekelmeer Flamingo Sanctuary, which gets its color from algae and tiny shrimp that thrive in the high salt content. These pink lakes are also home to large populations of Caribbean flamingos, which are attracted to the area by the abundance of food."

[unicornachos2]

Just reflecting on how well in rain wild chronicles we see the cycles of patriarchy and a specific type of masculinity perpetuating themselves through different characters in different ways, and the different reasons they're called to those behaviours.

Like we start with a few... toxic masculinity spawn points (lmao) and then see how the ripples of their behaviours and ideologies continue through other characters.

We start with the homophobic, capitalist trader society and old traders like Hest's father, who constantly makes remarks about how he must create an heir and makes comments about Hest's unnatural "activities". This man knows his son is gay but instead of finding solutions that work for them all, he berates Hest into fitting in, or at least making an effort to appear to. Hest is already a shitty person, and "pays forward" his frustrations and ideals onto Sedric and Alise. He instills in Sedric his own ideology which is, if he can't fit in one way, he can fit in through another, which is by maintaining and increasing his wealth, and using others to get a leg up in society. When he experiences violence at the hands of Lord Dargen, he again decides he'll pay forward his treatment, and ends up attempting to do so to Alise and Sedric again, but also Davvie. Hest's cycle of fucked up masculinity is limited to a smaller number of people, but we know what the consequences are for Alise and Sedric. What is a relief is that in a very catalyst-like fashion, Alise and Sedric change the "cart of fate" or whatever out of its path so the cycle can't continue.

The other place we begin is Chalced and its duke who perpetuates a culture of slavery, control, and patriarchy. That flows onto Jess who is brought up in Chalced. Then he singles out among the keepers who is most primed to sway to his "logics" in Greft. And we know Greft has been othered his whole life, so recruiting him is easy. Then Greft recruits Kase and Boxter and then Nortel, and then Tats even, to an extent (will never forget Tats essentially telling Thymara that people who're married don't say no to each other and NEVER fucking apologising for that).

What's interesting is Rapskal at that time seems immune to it, bc Jess probably deems him too sweet and simple to make a leader like Greft.

Our third perpetrator of his own cycle, is Tellator. I think Hobb shows us the devastating decline of Rapskal as a character to really bring it home for us the ways in which toxic masculinity reaches even "the good ones" - the seemingly "best" of boys and men. Rapskal probably on some level knows he's different from the other boys, and he's reckless enough to let another man who has the traits of a charismatic, populist leader infiltrate his mind. As soon as the keepers start to notice the change, we see the original lackeys of Greft's cycle immediately shift to follow Tellator instead.

Ultimately I think it's really good example of how men are endlessly recruited into cycle after cycle of patriarchy and control by other men. Like she essentially gives us a demonstration of how the recruitment of incels and the far-right works.

What let me down was the lack of time we spent shifting Tats out of that cycle. Imo by the end of the series he's not free of harmful beliefs about gender and about relationships and we just end with this shallow assumption that Tats and Thymara are all good now and he's improved himself. But he's barely learned a damn thing. I haven't started the final trilogy yet so idk how their relationship will go, but I feel like we needed more time from Tats' POV and for him to spend more time with Carson and Leftrin to allow him to have enough discussions with them to wind back his entitlement and just. Unpleasant traits and ideas. I know this is Hobb World and that might be unrealistic, but we needed more from Tats for him to move "up" enough enough to more effectively mirror Rapskal's downward arc.

THOSE ARE THE THOUGHTS FOR TODAY ¯��\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[colleyuriko]

I'm reading Robin Hobb's 'Dragon Keeper' as I am reading my way through the Realm of the Elderlings for the first time.

Therefore, please do not give me any spoilers.

However, after Dragon Keeper chapter 9, who were you the most angry with?

(Thymara has just signed up for the job and is getting to know her fellow dragon keepers. Alise has just got off Paragon and has transferred to Tarman to get to Cassarick with Sedric.)

[lesbiansagainsttheatre]

rest in piss greft you got what you deserved

[traderoftrouble]

hoping that Sedric doesn't turn out to be a massive dick like this first book is making him out to be.

Hoping that exposure to the dragons and being away from the devil named Hest will cure him of his greed for money. Also bro just bonded with the dragons via drinking their blood. Good job man. You're fucked.

Every man that appears in these books is so foul (Hest, Greft, Sedric when I catch you-) >:/

Also dang. My poor guy is just in the most feral gay situationship that has ever existed. I know that rote has homophobia and misogyny as part of the cool social life of the world but dang. Sedric u can be a sub and not be abused I promise. Being gay isn't the crime your evil 'boyfriend' is.

Just like with the Liveship trilogy I was unsure how I was gonna feel about the new characters and (kinda) new setting but also just like the Liveship trilogy, I'm now very invested and scared for the future books!!

If anything happens to Thymara I will hurt everyone. Also PLEASE I NEEEEEED a dragon to eat one of those foul men thank you!

[1five1two]

'Bonaire, Dutch Carribean'. Sander Grefte.

[quaresmafabri]

Küçükken su ile yanmıştım greft ameliyatı olmuştum. Yemek yapınca yağ ile az birşey yanmıştım. Bugünde çorba ile yandık..

Nedir bu yanmadan çektiğim 🥲

[everywaythatmatters]

Realm of the Elderlings Ask Meme Thing

This is so fun, thanks for the tag @mellowthorn!! <3

Favorite RotE book: Fool’s Fate

Why: Fool’s Fate and Fool’s Errand are both at the top of my list, but I have to give this one to FF because I don’t think any other book has made me lose my mind quite like this one. Robin Hobb said hi I wrote a book with every single gay fanfic trope in it and also it’ll shatter your heart into a million pieces! There’s dragons! What more could you want really

Top three favorite characters: Beloved, (I want to also list Amber but idk if that counts,) Fitz, Kettricken

Top three least favorite characters: Tats, Lant, Greft

Favorite ship (of the floating kind): Paragon! Tarman literally walking up the river with his little feet is very important to me though

Top three favorite ships (of the people kind): Fitzloved, Patience and Lacy, Erek and Detozi.

Would you rather be Witted or Skilled: Witted

If you were Witted, what animal would you bond with? Probably a dog or some kind of bird. Actually wait I started thinking about different forest animals and now I desperately want a possum as a wit partner

Would you rather live in the Outislands, the Mountain Kingdom, the Six Duchies, Bingtown, the Rain Wilds, Kelsingra, Jamaillia, the Pirate Isles, or Fool’s Homeland? The mountain kingdom sounds like such a nice place to live! I’d travel to the other places when I inevitably got too cold lmao

How were you introduced to the books? My mutuals were losing their minds over the series and I am very easily influenced when it comes to books ( @lordgolden I think your posts were the ones that convinced me to start reading it actually, thank you for the incurable brainrot <3)

Share a quote you love: There are so many, but the first one that came to mind was “If there must be another my fate is twined around, I am glad it is you.”

That whole section of AQ is what made me truly fall in love with the series. Fitz and Beloved’s relationship is so beautiful and complicated and tortured and it did truly change my brain chemistry!! The fact that they don’t need to have an explicitly romantic or sexual relationship to be the most important people in each other’s lives also just means a lot to me. (And despite all that they literally do have soul sex on the page. No one’s doing it like them)

Tagging: I know a lot of people have been tagged in this already, so if you like RotE and haven’t been tagged yet consider this your tag!

[alanalmeara]

Greft is like i see the wisdom of letting women have a say in their lives and i am willing to respect it as if he’s like a Feminist like babe you’re willing to respect it??? Robin hobb is so good at showing how the bar with men is on the floor

[wobubling]

Back to reading rain wilds. Greft needs to die RIGHT NOW

[foolish-fitz]

RotE Roulette day 5: Tats 😡

I HATE TATS. okay I came in a little strong there but I really do. no idea if this is an unpopular opinion but he’s at least set up by Hobb to be likable so I have to swing harder the other way to make up for that.

he just has such a “nice guy” attitude. “I treated this girl with basic human respect, why doesn’t she want to fuck me 😭” and doesn’t give Thymara space to make her own decisions, gets jealous of Rapskal over basically nothing, and buys into Greft’s sex cult propaganda way too easily. final diagnosis: CRINGE and BAD WITH WOMEN and i want him AWAY from Thymara until he matures a little.

tier list: D tier. I go by how much I appreciate the character, both on a “are they well written” and a “do I actually like them” level. in this case I don’t think Tats is particularly well-written and I dislike him as a person.

best moment/line: ugh idk I guess the scene with him and Thymara in the tree at the beginning of Dragon Keeper was cute.

I anticipate there will not be a lot of art or fic for me to reblog today lol. I’ll do my best though