#han seok? i dont know him

[helianthus21]

devils of vincenzo wip

[wonsohl]

hii do you think you cld write abt gunwook ? maybe smth like popular!gunwook and shy!reader in a school setting

also, i rlly enjoyed ur yujin imagines! they're so adorable

omg! ofcc , recently gunwook has been biasing me lately after kcon 😭😭! thank you for the compliment abt my yujin imaginess <3 ! tbh i didn't know how succesful it would bee

young love 🫂 - p.gw

PAIRINGS: popular!gw + shy!freader

it was winter. your favourite time of the year - not just because it was the season of your birthday but because you loved christmas and the traditions of the mistletoe at school.

your school recently (by recently you mean 4 years ago) started this thing were they would leave mistletoes around school.

at first it was very controversial but they made it rule that you don't have to partake in the tradition if you didn't want to.

most people didn't because half of the boys in your school were ugly and smelt like canned fish.

however if they did wanna kiss someone, it would've been the f9.

f9? basically the most handsome, jaw-dropping, extravagant, elegant, heart-beating boys ever to be seen.

you had the 3seniorz - aka : sung hanbin & zhanghao from class one with kim jiwoong in class two

then you had the musicianz - aka : seok matthew & kim taerae from class one

and then finally the coocooz - aka : shen ricky, kim gyuvin , han yujin and your beloved park gunwook.

pretty much every sane girl in your school had a crush on them because who wouldnt?

the f9s pretty much run the school, if they ask someone to do something they would.

one time ricky asked a girl a year above him to buy him something from the school store, she bought the whole store for him.

another time taerae asked a girl to get his guitar from the music room, she got his guitar with the rest of the music room on her back.

so you could tell that these boys had every girl wrapped around their fingers ,

including you.

but no one knew of course.

you barely talked in lesson and never raised your hand and on top of that you sat the middle row in lessons and would always leave a sticky note on the teacher's desk ever day to remind her that you were in so she didn't need to call out your name.

and thats how you lived for pretty much all 3 years of highschool until today.

you made your way to your homeroom with your headphones in and got a sticky note from your bag to put it on the teacher's desk and plotted your bag on your chair.

whilst returning to your chair, you realised that someone must of forgotten their cleaning duty yesterday and forgot to clean your desk.

their was pen marks everywhere and gum under the table.

you sighed heavily, but too heavily so no one else knew your dissapointment. you were about to go to the toilet to get some tissue when your phone started ringing.

it was inhee your bestfriend

'Y/N!!' said inhee through her phone speaker ruining your eardrums forgetting that you were on speaker everyone in your class looks at you.

you smile back awkwardly and dash out the class room.

'omg inhee! you dont need to shout my name at 8:03 am in the morningg" you said complaing about your friends behaviour

'oh im sorry miss l/n but apprently seola from our class got a mistletoe with ricky! '

' WHAT?? damm she's so lucky! '

' I KNOW RIGHTT THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYINGG ' says inhee and then for the next five minutes of your call inhee was complaining about how it should've been her instead of seola.

'ME AND RICKY HAVE FIRE AND WATER SIGNS WE ARE LITCH SOULMATES'

'okok i get your pointt~. it's not that deep its only a kiss he probably doesn't feel anything for her anyway.

'after all he is a player but that doesn't mean anything! i have been waiting for my first kiss to be ricky just to be knocked off by son seola who is a complete copy of me :>'

'inhee its just a one time thing, you can make a move to him on the last day of school or something'

'ONE TIME THING?'

she said again, at this point you thought she was intentionally trying to publicly embarrass you infront of everyone as well as make you deaf.

'inhee enough with this yelling over a boy! its not even past 9 am yett'

'well this boy is my lifeline, soulmate, couple, future hubby, fiance he is like my everything! he means the whole world to me just like gunwook means to you silly!'

gunwook. gun wook . park gunwook.

you loved his name.

you loved they way he talked .

you love his visuals.

most of all you loved his smile.

'yeah but gunwook is different - first of all he is not rich and spoilt , second of all he is classprezz and is not a player'

' okay but imagine if you got a mistletoe with him! like that would be so cute!'

'with who? gunwook' you scoff at her words.

'gunwook is way out of my league, i would never get mistletoe with him and that's how i like it and i wanna keep it that way for th-'

your phone fell out of your hand skidding across the marble floor of your school hallway.

you pick your self up and run to get it but another hand it there before you.

you look up to see gunwook.

'oh my god' you thought.

eugh this was so cliche for this to happen.

but even through those thoughts, you and him still kept eye contact

'ay gunwook did you get the homework for-

OMG YOU GOT A MISTLETOEE'

you look behind gunwook's broad shoulders to see his friend gyuvin running towards him whilst pointing up towards the ceiling.

and follow his fingers to see the mistletoe right above your head with you and gunwook

'BRO YOU GOTTA GIVE HER A KISS - A RICKY COME HERE GUNWOOK GOT A MISTLETOE'

'GUNWOOK HAS TO GIVE HER A KISSY WISSY OOOO~'

you look back to gunwook eyes as he meets you with an awkward smile after he elbowed gyuvin in his ribcage.

'you don't have to kiss me! it's j-just a tradition' you say excusing yourself slowly.

then all of a sudden gunwook holds you by your shoulder and mouths sorry before pulling you in for a kiss.

your lips clash onto eachother as you close your eyes not knowing how to react and slowly losen up to his touch.

those seconds then feel like minutes which feel like hours the kiss breaks up and you suddenly realise where you are.

you look around to see a whole entire crowd has formed around you two with phones everywhere.

you obviously freak out and gunwook being the man he is he drags you through the crowd and brings you too your class.

'thank you' you say smiling back with a bow

he laughs abit which make you feel embarrassed but he reassures you.

'it's ok, you looked so cute when you tried leave because i knew you liked me' he says giggling with his dimples showing.

your cheeks instantly flush and laugh back.

the bell rings meaning you have to go back to your seat and gunwook looks at his watch.

'ill get going now but if you want i can take you out for some ice cream later'

you nod back with a smile going back to your seat whilst inhee runs through your homeroom door slamming it against the wall.

'y/n. tell. me. everything.'

[nicholasluvbot]

RIIZE birthdays & fun facts:

Osaki Shotaro

-born Nov 25, 2000

-From Kanagawa, Japan

-Has a younger brother and sister

-formally of NCT

-representive emoji: 🧋(Taro milk tea) (sobs we will miss the otter)

Song Eun Seok

-born March 19, 2001

-Has a younger brother born in 2015

-Is the voice actor for the new Trolls Movie in Korea.

-representive emoji: 🪨

JUNG SUNG CHAN

-born Sept 13, 2001 (my Virgo baby 🥺)

-Has an older brother (b. 1999)

-is the tallest (confirmed by Anton)

-representative emoji: 🐸 (I still miss the deer TT)

Park Won Bin

-born March 2, 2002

-born in Seoul but raised in Ulsan

-Has an older brother

-choreographed a dance with Taro

-Him and Taro helped choreograph their recent comeback Love 119

-Representative Emoji: 🎸(cuz he can play guitar)

LEE SO HEE

-Born Nov 21, 2003

-has an older sister(?)

-not much is known about him.

-Representative emoji: 💂‍♀️(bc his hair looks like that in the morning 😭)

HONG SEUNG HAN

-born Oct 2, 2003

-Has an older brother

-is on hiatus (bring him back SM >:<)

-representative emoji: 🫧 (bc he’s pretty)

ANTON LEE / LEE CHAN YOUNG

-born March 21, 2004

-eldest son of producer Lee Yoon Sang and actress Shim Hye Jin

-has a younger brother named Junyoung (b. 2009)

-born in Boston, Massachusetts but raised in New Jersey.

-Was a swimmer and a cellist (watch his cello performance on MAMA I cried)

-representative emoji: 🦕”because of the Brachiosaurus being the inspiration of his nickname “Brachio”.

I hope this helps a bit ira. I’ll also help you get into ZB1 but there’s nine members so I’ll have to DM you for that but if you have any questions feel free to DM me!

omg tysm for this 😭🫂💓

shotaro is so cute i didnt know he was from nct tho that explains why i thought he looked familiar 😵‍💫 and why is eunseok kinda- hes so fine

and sungchan being the tallest??? i was watching the love 119 choreography rn and i was looking at him the entire timee!! ive always had something for the tallest members

just when i thought wonbin couldnt get more attractive i learnt that he plays a guitar... that man is so,,, idk i dont even have the words to describe him

and sohee is my child <33 istg hes so adorable especially in the memories performance video (?)

and sunghan my man im gonna burn down the sm building if he doesnt come back soon

anton is so adorable <33 wanna keep him in my pocket hes so precious

and thank you so much for this <3 i reallly appreciate all the efforts youve taken to type this and this really helped ♡

[deonideatta]

@ohcoolnice @whyyoudo I couldn't get the concept of han seok and junwoo being two different people out of my head so on this vincenzo-less sunday I give you a loose rewrite of canon where jun woo is the third jang brother and han seok's twin!

They were born jang han seok and jang han sol, and han seok is the older twin. They were separated when they were very young, because of han seok and an incident which ended up with han sol in the hospital. It was supposed to be temporary, but one of the house staff took pity on the poor child and smuggled him away. His name was changed to jun woo and they didn't find him again until both him and han seok were adults

They grew up very differently, han seok under the jang family, tormenting han seo and becoming the unhinged, solitary figure we all know and hate, and jun woo in an adopted family somewhere across the country into the dorky, sweet intern we knew for a bit and loved

Both of them somehow ended up spending time in america, though neither knew and they never met. Han seok because his father sent him there and jun woo because he got a scholarship to go to university there

Very few people now know about han seok himself, much less his twin brother. Before han seok's chairman takeover, most people think han seo is the only jang child

Jun woo knows he has a twin brother, but he doesnt know who he is. He can't remember his name or his face, or those of his real family. When he receives an offer for a job at wusang, he takes it as a learning opportunity and accepts

The only one who has all the cards is han seok, and so when he hears that jun woo has become an intern at wusang he decides its time to play them

So he spends people to observe and record jun woo, and after things start heating up and chayenzo declares war on babel, he kidnaps and threatens him, and tells him that he has to let him cosplay as him so that he can scope out the increasing threat

This is not how jun woo had ever thought meeting his long lost twin brother would go. He tries to put up a fight, but han seok hits him in the stomach with the hockey stick he's wielding like some kind of ancient weapon so hard that he spits out blood, and that takes the fight out of him

Han seok crouches down in front of jun woo and stares him in the eye, and it's like looking into a mirror except his reflection is staring at him with chillingly blank eyes.

It's the same for han seok, except his reflection looks back with open terror. The feeling it gives him is unpleasant and han seok doesn't like seeing weakness like that on a face that could pass for his own. But if he wants to get what he wants, he can't harm his twin too much just yet

Visually they're identical, so han seok passes perfectly for jun woo. He doesn't get all his mannerisms right at first, but with practice basically no one can tell the difference unless they look hard enough to notice that han seok's eyes are always empty even when he's copying jun woo's biggest grin.

A part of han seok feels a flash of jealousy at the fact that his twin has had a pleasant and fulfilling life while he's had to live neglected in the shadows for so long, so he takes extra satisfaction in the way jun woo's face falls when he appears in front of him for the first time dressed in his work attire, indistinguishable from jun woo on the average week day, backpack and all.

To spite him even further, han seok mimics his cheery, enthusiastic way of speaking, smiling so widely that it's mocking, and embraces the glee that jun woo's downtrodden expression gives him

He does hate having to curl his hair to copy jun woo's usual hairstyle though

At this point han seo finds out he has a second older brother, because han seok wants him to be able to continue to act normal and not freak out if he sees him cosplaying as jun woo

This brother is identical to his other one but actually really nice to him and it's both incredible and completely terrifying. It takes han seo a while to warm up to jun woo because he looks so much like han seok, as well as for fear of han seok's reaction, but he gets there

Whenever they meet (usually bc of han seok) the two bond over their shared fear and hatred of han seok. There's twice the himbo power. Incredible

Jun woo had had no idea that he had a younger (half) brother, and his heart goes out to him for having to live under han seok's abuse for so long

So he makes an effort to get to know han seo when han seok isn't around to yell at them. Han seo appreciates this a lot, because jun woo is like han seok on his incredibly rare good days except much better and all the time

Being a veteran at Handling Han SeokTM, he gives jun woo tips on how to get on han seok's good side and avoid getting things thrown at you

Jun woo tells han seo that one day when they get free of han seok they should take a trip to disneyland. Han seo, who has never been to an amusement park before, makes him promise it

Han seok's babel boss reveal presentation goes more or less the same way, except it's also a twin reveal and choi myung hee and mr han have to deal with the fact that not only is their intern the babel chairman's twin brother, but they have also been switching places regularly

Meanwhile cha young, who is out there living her best anti big pharma life, thinks jun woo is acting weird. Some days he's super bubbly, almost too bubbly, and on other days he's more subdued, seemingly a bit on edge.

Biggest red flag comes when she, him and vincenzo eat spicy food together

The spicy food tolerance gene missed han seok altogether and endowed han seo and jun woo with its power

So though he doesn't protest when cha young orders the extremely spicy dish jun woo usually gets for him, han seok struggles to finish the food almost as much as vincenzo does

Cha young thinks that's really sus, but she keeps her questions to herself because there's really no explanation for it unless jun woo was replaced by a government clone or aliens. Or his secret identical twin. Hah, imagine

She files the thought away for later and they continue to dig into the man behind han seo and babel. They find out about han seok, but there's no remaining information about jun woo in the files because the jang family thought losing him was supremely embarrassing so they tried to make sure no one knew

Meanwhile han seok is super happy he's gained another protective shield. If babel gets into trouble he can force han seo to go to jail for him, and if he ever gets personally exposed he can make jun woo take the fall for him. Genius

For that purpose he makes sure no one except the babel quartet know about him and jun woo being twins

He finds that it's interesting living as jun woo though, people interact with him in a way they never do when he's han seok. Jun woo's neighbours say hello to him when he goes by, and the lady in the local convenience store makes small talk with him and asks how his new job is going. And cha young is an incredibly unusual person, han seok finds that he has some level of attraction to her, and enjoys her company

While han seo is a puppet, jun woo is a mask, a protective measure and a means to explore the world, and han seok mentally pats himself on the back for having such useful brothers

But he has to stop spending time pretending to be jun woo for now bc he knows his identity is at risk of being discovered by jipuragi squad as they hunt down the person who exposed vincenzo as a mafia member

So when vincenzo does find out that han seok is allegedly jun woo, and tells cha young, it actually isn't han seok she's sitting with when she receives the news

Naturally she doesn't know this, and she feels supremely betrayed

And when vincenzo breaks into 'han seok's' house, it's actually jun woo's house. Jun woo, who was not expecting the mafia to break into his house, is understandably scared. The kneeling gun scene goes down, except there is no bravado on jun woo's part and he's genuinely terrified

Vincenzo is arrested as planned, and jun woo meets cha young in the police station as she goes to help vincenzo

She's furious, and jun woo honestly denies that it was him who killed her father and the babel victims, unable to expose that it was han seok because he's scared of the consequences and because it sounds like such a ridiculous excuse

Poor guy gets the double slap intended for his twin brother

When han seok hears about it he laughs a lot. Jun woo is understandably angry about his reaction, but he is forced to seethe in silence

Nevertheless han seok decides to go into hiding (and forces jun woo to do the same somewhere else, hiring guards to make sure he doesn't leave) because even if chayenzo think jun woo is the babel chairman, they still have the same face

Unfortunately for han seok this means that vincenzo's spy squad see him going into his own safe house, and he gets to be the victim of the drugged water

After a few more near death scares courtesy of the local mafia man, choi myung hee suggests he reveal himself as chairman so he doesn't die at the hands of vincenzo unknown and like a loser. And so he does

At the expense of jun woo, whose identity has more or less been stolen now, and who is now indefinitely confined to the family property han seok had him hide in

The war begins all out, and jipuragi squad works hard at removing han seok's support circle, starting with daechang daily, then the anti-union activities

Han seo watches all this unfold and starts to wonder how he can get his better older brother free while taking down the other one

The answer comes to him when he sees chayenzo cover han seok with pigs blood. They're the only people who seemed to consistently be able to one up han seok, and he has only heard good things about cha young from jun woo, not to mention the fact that surely even han seok can't defeat a mafia member in the long run

So he asks mr han to help him meet vincenzo, and he tells him he has twin older brothers and asks for his help in betraying the bad one and saving the good one

Vincenzo thinks he's messing with him, and turns down han seo's request to be on the same side

But then jipuragi squad opens the guillotine file, and there below han seok's escapades in homicide and the details on han seo's suffering, is the shocking secret of the jang family, the existence of a 3rd jang brother, han seok's twin brother jang han sol

Cha young remembers how jun woo hadn't been able to eat spicy food that one time and suddenly everything makes sense

For his part vincenzo remembers what han seo had said and mentally kicks himself for thinking it was a lie

They puzzle over what this could mean and where han seok's twin brother could be now. Is the man who revealed himself as the babel chairman the real han seok? Are both of them evil? Is one being used by the other?

Cha young silently wonders which times jun woo had just been jun woo, and which times she had been eating lunch or joking with han seok the babel chairman and serial murderer

They decide they have to find the other jang twin in order to answer their questions

Problem is that he's been absent from work for the past 2 weeks, and when vincenzo breaks into his house, it looks like it hasn't been lived in for quite a while

The trail seems to lead nowhere, and they turn their attention back to tearing down babel, with the new knowledge sitting uncomfortably in the backs of their minds

And then han seo shows up at the jipuragi office in all his coffee wielding glory to plead his cooler older brother's case again

This time, to han seo's surprise, they listen to him patiently when he tells them about his older brothers. He makes sure to stress that the only one he wants to betray is han seok, and that jun woo has done nothing wrong

If the fact that they've read the part of the guillotine file that talked about what han seo had had to suffer under han seok makes it easier for them to believe him, he doesn't have to know that

The only way they can strike at han seok and simultaneously clear jun woo of suspicion is to reveal that they're twins

To do that they have to find jun woo. Han seo doesn't know where exactly he is, but he tells them that han seok would probably try and use jun woo as a shield should he ever be sent to jail

The guillotine file gives them what they need to force the prosecution to put han seok behind bars under fabricated charges. It wouldn't last long once actual investigation starts, but hopefully it will be enough

Han seok takes the bait, unknowingly, and shuttles jun woo off in his place. There's not much that irritates him as much as the thought of going to jail, and this is the perfect chance to test jun woo's loyalty. It also gives him a blind spot to operate, while his enemies think he's in jail. You can't dodge a hidden dagger and all that.

When the jipuragi squad watches the arrest of the babel chairman on the news, there's a nervous hunch to 'han seok's' shoulders, and the impassive smile he seems to be going for isn't quite right

Vincenzo and cha young go to visit him in jail

When they first see him, cha young immediately feels bad, despite herself. He looks like he hasn't slept well in ages, and his expression is far from his usual cheer, sober and sullen. This had better really be jun woo, she does not want to ever feel pity for jang han seok

It is jun woo, and he really hasn't slept well in ages, as reuniting with han seok and his violent tendencies has reawakened the memories from his childhood in the jang household that he had supressed, causing all kinds of nightmares

He doesn't look up as they enter and sit opposite him. Cha Young takes charge, and vincenzo lingers behind her, a solid and present support

When she speaks his head snaps up at the sound of her voice, before he seems to want to correct himself and looks away

When he looks at her again there are no traces of jun woo in his face, his expression haughty and unbothered

It's chillingly like the han seok they had sat across following the pig's blood incident, and cha young has to work hard to push down the flare of anger the expression causes

She decides not to beat around the bush. She presses the printed page of the jang han sol section of the guillotine file up against the glass, and watches as jun woo's eyes widen, the facade falling as quickly as he had donned it

Jun woo takes in the picture of the two identical little boys and has to squeeze his eyes shut at the wave of fear that hits him

In its wake is a small flare of hope. If they know he isn't han seok, maybe they can help him

Cha young watches as jun woo seems to deflate at the sight of the document, and now she's sure it isn't han seok, because she's never seen him allow himself to show any form of weakness

When jun woo looks up again, there is determination mixed in with the weariness in his eyes

A while later, cha young exhales shakily as they walk out, vincenzo's hand steady and comforting on her back. She's surprised at how relieved she is to know that the jun woo she had known had not been an elaborate set up, a con which had seen her at some of her lowest moments. Her heart goes out to jun woo, but there's an undeniable joy at the confirmation that her friend still exists, because it means he can be saved

The plan is simply to collect evidence of the fact that jun woo is not han seok. Best case scenario a video of them together, though a good photo will do as well. It would also work if they can somehow get footage of han seok out and about while jun woo is in jail

The first obvious course of action is to look for cctv footage. They hunt high and low through the cameras at babel, at wusang, and around han seok and jun woo's houses, but the searches are largely fruitless

With han seo's help, they locate the safehouses han seok likes to hide out in, and vincenzo sends men to snoop around each property. This ultimately pays off when, at the 3rd property, han seok is spotted standing by a window.

The second stage begins with Mr ahn's help, and they get a swat team to raid the house han seok is hiding out in.

Fully believing that everyone thinks you're in jail makes you sloppy, and han seok doesn't see it coming until the black vehicles are speeding down his driveway

He doesn't stop to take anything much, he grabs a hockey stick and he runs, wild and angry, out into the dark of the woods surrounding the house

Vincenzo watches him charge into the forest on the cctv footage retrieved from the house and smirks

The footage hits the news the next day. The headline is in large, bold letters, "Chairman Jang Han Seok spotted at holiday residence, despite prison sentence." The picture below the tagline serves as the final blow, side by side images of Han Seok sprinting away from the house, and an identical man sitting demurely in a jail cell.

As the story breaks, people begin to step forward, old employees of the jang household who had known and seen both han seok and han sol. There's nothing like good gossip to get people talking, and the shocking secret of the jang twins makes the rounds in record time

Jun woo's identity is rechecked, and he is set free

Cha young, vincenzo and han seo go to meet him when he gets out. Han seo tackles him in a hug, and cha young smacks him heartily on the back. Vincenzo doesn't react much but he does shoot jun woo a smile.

Han seok hasn't been seen in days, and jun woo is unbelievably happy to be himself again

It isn't over yet though, babel still needs to pay and han seok still needs to be found. Search parties comb through the woods around the house regularly, but there's still no sign of him. In the meantime, jipuragi prepares their final attack.

Han seo lets jun woo stay with him, and the house is fortified by multiple levels of guards

It's still mildly unsettling for han seo to have someone with han seok's face in his house, in his own safe space, but jun woo makes for a far better housemate than han seok ever was, and gradually he relaxes

For a few days, despite the tension of not knowing where your psychopath brother who probably really wants to kill you could be lurking, when there is a spare moment in the evening, han seo and jun woo catch up on years of lost brotherhood

Han seo tells him about his mother, and jun woo talks about his adopted family. Neither of them mention han seok, they skirt around his name like he doesn’t exist, like speaking their trauma aloud to someone who had been there too would make it too real to bear. Jun woo knows he had gotten the better end of the deal, he had been separated from han seok pretty early. Han seo had lost too many years of his life to their psychopath brother, and jun woo isn't sure he knows how to confront that, or how to comfort him. He hopes he can learn

Han seo wants to ask what exactly had happened to lead to jun woo being removed from the jang household and separated from han seok, but he doesnt dare. Maybe later, maybe when they aren't still worried about what han seok could do to them

Then the jipuragi squad files their lawsuit against babel. Han seok still hasn't been heard from, and they begin to wonder if he got lost in the woods. Maybe he fell of a cliff, or into a river

Either way, the trial goes spectacularly badly for babel, aided by the fact that vincenzo had threatened the unjust judge before the trial. The verdict is guilty, and it serves as a means to kick-start further investigation into previously dismissed babel trials

The day after the trial, han seok reappears

He was lost in the woods for a while, but he found his way out and laid low for a while plotting a way to get back at vincenzo and cha young for destroying his backup plans and destroying his family and company's reputation. He will also have to deal with his traitorous brothers.

It's a big blow, but it's not one he cannot recover from. All he has to do is get his revenge, terrify his brothers back into submission, and go back to his plans for his babel.

So he requests the kidnapping of cha young, and he gets his men to attack the guards at han seo's house and take her there, cornering his brothers. He strolls in when he gets word that everything is done, cocky and confident, twirling a gun between his fingers

He takes in the open fear on han seo's face, the frightened anger on jun woo's face, and the sneer on cha young's face, and he laughs. They are consistent to the very end, and he wouldn't have it any other way.

All that’s left is vincenzo, and a short while after a brief and taunt filled phone call he arrives, eyes wide and angry. Han seok does not waste time in pointing his gun at the mafia man. He stops where he is, still glaring at han seok, eyes darting regularly to cha young

Because he is never one to turn down some fun, in a bid to further anger vincenzo, han seok crouches down and points the gun to cha young's head. He watches at vincenzo's face twists with anger and worry, and he revels in it. Out of the corner of his eye he sees jun woo has moved in front of han seo, like he's protecting him, and han seok wants to laugh

He speaks to cha young in jun woo's voice to spite them both, mockingly sounding out his words in his twin's bright tone

But suddenly vincenzo drops to his knees to plead for cha young's life, and han seok grins in satisfaction. The satisfaction is shortlived, however, as something solid suddenly crashes into the back of his head

It dazes him enough that he lets go of cha young for a moment, and she takes the chance to headbutt him so hard that he drops the gun. Vincenzo pounces almost immediately, and aims a kick to han seok's head, knocking him out

The last thing he sees before everything fades to black is his spitting image standing a distance away, holding a dented art deco lamp.

When they are sure han seok has been knocked out for real, the relief that sweeps the room is palpable. Han seo slumps down and jun woo moves to check on him as vincenzo unties cha young

Jun woo moves to call the police, but vincenzo tells him not to. 

Instead, he makes a call of his own, and soon two men enter and carry out the still unconscious han seok. Jun woo wants to ask where they’re taking him, but there’s a dark glint in vincenzo’s eyes that makes him swallow the question.

None of them see han seok again until he’s on the news. His body is found in a river near the family property he had first run away from, and the consensus seems to be that he fell in and drowned while lost in the woods

The whole matter has vincenzo written all over it, but no one is going to ask about it

Han seo and jun woo hold a funeral for him because it would be suspicious if they didn’t, but they work hard to make it as underwhelming as possible. When han seo cant stop shaking (whether it’s in weariness, relief, or anger at any traces of grief, jun woo can’t tell, and honestly neither can han seo) as they stand in front of the portrait of their deceased brother, jun woo silently rests a hand on his back.

After that is over with, they take a break to have a small ‘han seok is gone’ party, and then they both throw themselves into work

Han seo takes charge of babel, firing all of han seok’s people and working hard at cleaning up the stain of corruption he’d left behind. He works hard to transform the company’s reputation, and begins the process of compensating all the people who had been wronged by them in some shape or form

Jun woo leaves wusang and starts his own law firm. Han seo makes the company his first customer, and jun woo tries hard to run his firm without any traces of what made lawyers at wusang such monsters

Cha young and him have a friendly law firm rivalry going, much to vincenzo’s amusement

When they aren’t working, jun woo and han seo hang out a lot. Jun woo is determined to replace han seo’s memories of a terrible older brother with better ones with a more pleasant older brother. Han seo still struggles sometimes with seeing han seok in jun woo, but he’s more than happy to overwrite han seok’s image in his mind with jun woo’s

A few months after everything is stable again, they do take that trip to disneyland. The picture they take outside the park is framed on both their desks.

The next year, vincenzo and cha young get married, and han seo and jun woo attend the wedding. They bring expensive gifts, and jun woo cries like it’s his own family getting married. Cha young rolls her eyes at him, but she’s pleased to have him there

It will take a while to move on fully from the damage han seok caused, but they are all working hard at it. Because now han seok is gone for good, and everything is fine.

bonus

The Incident that led to han sol becoming jun woo happened when he and han seok were 6 and han seok, having decided that they had to see who was the superior twin, challenged him to a fight to the death

It was traumatic to the point that jun woo repressed all the memories of his childhood with han seok

Han seo once called jun woo hyung when speaking to han seok, and han seok got really angry and threw a lamp at him

Before vincenzo finishes off han seok, cha young slaps him six times to make up for the two slaps she mistakenly gave jun woo

After everything blows over, jun woo takes han seo with him the next time he goes to visit his adopted family. They dote on him like he's their family too, and han seo feels more loved than he has since he lost his mother. He says so to jun woo, and from then on he takes him along whenever he visits them

Cha young, jun woo and han seo meet up sometimes to eat spicy food, both because they like it but also to spite han seok’s memory just that little bit more

Because han seok died before he could find out about vincenzo’s mother, she’s alive and well and vincenzo visits her regularly

[sxfik]

I have an idea!

Ok so we all know that Hanseo is abused by his big brother, and if i remember correctly, the jipuragi trio found out about it from the guillotine file for the first time.

Now hear me out, what if the jipuragi trio found out about the abuse from Hanseo himself, not from the guillotine file??

After failing to burn down geumga plaza, Hanseok threw that object at Hanseo, telling him not to dodge it, and it left a scar on his forehead. When Hanseo visited jipuragi, he seemed proud of that scar, right?? Because thats what he got from saving geumga plaza, and he hoped that the scar would show them that he wants to be on their side.

BUT lets forget about all those stuff for a moment.

Hanseok loves to strangle, threaten, and hit Hanseo with the hockey stick. It certainly happens more than once, so i figured that there must be a bunch of scars and bruises on his body right?? What if the jipuragi trio noticed one of his scars/bruises?? I know Hanseo always wear long-sleeved stuff, so its not exactly visible, but what if someone caught a glimpse of it??? Perhaps the scar/bruise was on his arm???

Maybe when Hanseo visits jipuragi, Vincenzo asks him to wash some coffee mugs, and as Hanseo is rolling up his sleeves...

"yo whats that on your arm??"

And maybe Hanseo is like "thats a bruise..? Do you not know what a bruise is??"

Okay, idk. I have no idea how he's gonna react if that happens. I just feel like Hanseo wouldnt be proud of his scars if he didnt get them from trying to save geumga/jipuragi people.

And now im just wondering, what do you think? How would Hanseo react, in your opinion? If the jipuragi trio really did find out about the abuse from Hanseo himself, how would that affect their relationship? Im really curious about what you think

Hhhhhhhh sorry if its too long. I just thought that this might be a good way for Hanseo and jipuragi to kinda get closer with each other...

han seo headcanons (part one)

helloooo, thank you for sending an ask in :D

SORRY this answer is super long and for some reason my phone isn't allowing me to add a keep reading cut thingy, apologies in advance to the amount scrolling you have to do

tw: abuse

i've been thinking so much about this ask and just how han-seo would react to them finding out, and honestly i never really took note of how many long sleeved shirts he wears. i believe han-seok has switched a lot more into emotional manipulation and abuse than physical abuse but he has a lot of anger issues. i'd honestly imagine him using han seo as a punching bag for any and every inconvinence that happens to him, even as an intern.

i also agree with you, han seo is someone who is a very bright personality who tends to hide his hurt and emotions, and he's very very good at it as he has been living under a psychopath his whole life. he's good at hiding his anger (although it definetly bubbles over in smaller outbursts) and especially his hurt (i.e. the scene that han seok throws that candle holder at him and he just smiles back). han seo has a lot of anger at himself for not speaking back or being able to act like himself. like in that scene in the office, you can tell as he curls his fist that he wanted to speak back so badly. even when he finally snaps against han seok, he said "i'm getting tired of being afraid of you." i feel like he'd be embarrassed that even after years, he hasn't been able to escape his abuse

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i feel like this scene and their dynamic would play out something similar to this:

han seo joined the team and has been working with vincenzo and cha-young for around a month. at this point han seo isn't walking on eggshells with both of them, he's a lot more comfortable and visiting their office regularly without choi/han/han seok finding out.

sometimes it's vincenzo and cha-young providing him books to study economics from, maybe even giving some brotherly/sisterly advice to him. every couple weeks, vin and cha-young give him quizzes and slowly, he's getting better and better

over time, he even got closer to the plaza residents (even though the residents were definetly cold to him in the beginning, miri scaring the shit out of him by doing her ghost thing, the lady with the lipstick from bye bye balloon staring him down, snack bar lady refusing to serve him, larry also scaring the shit out of him by doing his zombie routine)

but despite this, they adopt him into their family, han seo doing small errands for the residents, him buying the best coffee, food and getting camera equipment for the snack bar lady's son. han seo gifting the pawnshop couple with cute baby items etc.

(obviously he buys the most expensive shit bc he's still a rich boy, but they dont have to know)

(side note: he'd be fucking adorable with a baby, imagine him being the babies "uncle han seo" who gets them the best gifts !!)

even though he was comfortable with all of them, every once in a while his facade would slip.

every once in a while, someone would make a sharp movement towards him and he'd flinch. or if someone makes a quick step towards him, he'd back up and stiffen up on instinct

even if it was someone patting his back or just making a quick movement, he'd react on instinct from the years of abuse from han seok. but no one ever said anything about it if they noticed.

one afternoon after lunch, they were washing dishes, han seo on washing duty and cha-young drying and placing them back. and han seo was in his full sleeves and cha-young notices his sleeves getting wet

"yah, roll your sleeves back, by the end of this your whole sleeve will be wet! you know how uncomfortable those sleeves would be?"

"ahaha, it's alright noona, i'll be fine"

han seo tries to laugh it off, grining at her with one of his wide grins but there's something off about this one. but cha-young gives one of her patented glares and he rolls them up carefully, shielding his arms from her view, and continues washing the rest.

cha-young doesn't take note of his bruises at first, but noted the care he went through to shield his arms from her. his arms were posed almost awkwardly and he was on high alert

it wasn't until after they both finished and he was drying his hands that cha-young saw the massive bruises he had, climbing up his forearms and under the sleeves

he stiffens when he sees her stare, and quickly tries to cover them but she grabs them before he could hide it

she's completely quiet while she stares at his arms. after a moment, he speaks up

"oh i accidentally banged these against my doorway, they're just small bruises. it's go away in a couple days" he smiles at her again but she could tell from the way his shoulders were frozen and the wavering of his voice that it wasn't the truth

"did he do these?" she asked him, her face completely neutral and her voice barely a whisper. she's still looking at his forearms, her fingers ghosting over the bruises.

han seo just looks down and the silence is enough of an answer for cha-young. he walks away, embarrassed that she found out about it, even though his years of therapy told him that it wasn't never his fault, he still felt the shame and anger of not being able to break free.

he's quiet for the rest of the time, feigning tiredness and finding an excuse to leave the plaza

that night, it was just vincenzo and her working at the office late, in preparation for babel. cha-young's mind was still on what she saw that afternoon. abruptly, she stands up, her hand gripping the pen in her hand as she turned to vincenzo sitting at the other desk.

"did you know that bastard hurt him? he's been abusing han seo this whole time?" she asked vincenzo, her voice seething with anger

"i know."

"you know??? why didn't you ever say anything?"

vincenzo looks up at her from his stack of papers, setting his pen down.

"it wasn't my place. i picked up on it when he flinched when mr. tak reached toward him to place a hand on his shoulder."

cha-young sat back down then, her lips pressed together, and vin went back to his paperwork

"we should get him out of there. who knows what han seok would do in one of his rages?"

"couple nights ago, we went to drink makgeolli and i offered him a way out. i told him if he ever needs to leave, and if he's ready to leave, he has a place at the plaza."

"and is he? leaving that is?"

"no. he thanked me, but said that he needed to stay until his brother and his group crumbles to the ground."

cha-young let out a sigh, biting her lip, the worry on her face all too evident

"hong cha-young byeonosa-nim, we shouldn't baby him. jang han seo deserves revenge against his brother just like we do and the choice is ultimately up to him."

"i know. i just worry."

they stayed quiet for the rest of the night, working late but the topic never leaves cha-young or vincenzo's minds

the next day, han seo avoided her like the plague, not wanting to talk about what she saw yesterday

but while he was studying, she approached him, a glass of juice and a snack in hand, setting it next to him. she checked over his work quietly as he took a break and glanced at his arms, doing a once over just to make sure he didn't get any new ones.

"well done, han seo, you're doing well" she smiled at him and ruffled his hair and han seo let out a breath of relief and gratefulness that she hadn't treated him any different

from then, cha-young and vin only got fonder of han seo and han seo was pretty much adopted by them. after the battle and han seok is in jail permanently, he moves out of his apartment, and gets one closer to the plaza.

mr. nam would show him how the organization worked at jipuragi and put him to work, the paralegal grateful to have an extra hand around the office

eventually, even han seo grows an affection to the instant coffee and buys more for himself and his apartment

vin would take him shopping for suits, both rich boys obsessed with their sleek looks. they take cha-young with them once but she manages to sleep off at every shop they go to.

vincenzo also plays hockey with him regularly and the plaza invites him to plaza game nights. they get up to all kinds of mischief,

han seo loves spicy food, just like cha-young so they make it their mission to go to try every restaurant and compete to see just how much spice they can handle. obviously vincenzo doesn't even make it past the first round of the spice competitions but cha-young and han seo have the same competitive streak that keeps them going

han seo is also dropping hints to both of cha-young and vincenzo that they should get married. constantly teasing vincenzo about cha-young in the way only younger brothers do

obviously on one of cha-young and han seo’s days out, han seo drops hints CONSTANTLY, trying to get her to admit cha young likes vincenzo

and OBVIOUSLY she slips up, and han seo doesn’t let go of it

he does the whole younger brother teasing every single time he catches cha-young glancing at vincenzo at the firm

“cha-young noona and vin hyung, sitting in a tree. K I S S I N—” “HAN SEO!!!”

obviously chayenzo eventually get together but decide to keep it a secret (and of course, they were awful at it)

eventually when they reveal it to the office, mr. nam and han seo react like that one scene in suspicious partner (“quick, act surprised” “*gasp* you guys are together??????? we had no idea!!”)

han seo is basically adopted as a younger brother to both cha-young and vincenzo and even the plaza loves his presence and he gets to have a peaceful existence for the rest of his life

anyways han seo deserves a happy ending with a good family. he deserves a second chance with a family that LOVES AND CARES FOR HIM AND GIVES HIM CHOICES AND ALLOWS HIM TO BE HIMSELF. (and yes this covered more than just one scene but I HAVE MANY THOUGHTS ON HIM) as always feel free to add on :D

[spqce-buns]

CY SAW THE WHOLE THING. HIM KILLING HIS BROTHER IN FRONT OF HER. PLEASE SHE HAS ENOUGH TRAUMA TO DEAL WITH.

I SWEAR TO GOD IF MY BABY HAN SEO IS DEAD I DONT KNOW WHAT I WILL DO. I WILL PERSONALLY JUMP IN THE SCREEN AND BRUTALLY KILL JANG HAN SEOK.

I am so worried fuck.

[ceruleansmiles]

Post Vincenzo thoughts

I havent used tumblr in a hot minute but its the best place to discuss I think lol. 

I really loved the show, I really did. Started as an anti-hero story and ended as one. As much as sunshine and daisies are appreciated, it was nice to see a kdrama portray what it really means to be on the darker side and to work in the grey areas. 

Props to the entire cast for bringing their own flavour to the role and doing their role justice. Song Joong Ki especially, my love has increased tremendously for you as an actor. First loved Jeon Yeo-been in Be Melodramatic and continue to do so here. 

Now onto the finale, it wasnt perfect but a lot of it makes sense despite me not wanting to believe so. 

Starting with the whole set up. Vincenzo not being able to disarm Han Seok felt a little weak in terms of writing as well as him mostly side-lining Han Seo. But then again, it was Cha Young that was involved, who one way or another had become his Achilles Heel. The girl for whom he stayed behind longer and for whom he was willing to do anything to protect (yes we all saw the way he chucked that dude out the window). Her safety came before anything, and that may have blocked his usual foreplanning. 

Next came Han Seo. Ah my poor baby. The one redemption arc strongly worked upon.But looking back, a lot of Han Seok’s identity had been molded in reflection to his brother. A lot of what he did was under the dominance of his brother, but the rest of what he did was to save himself. With Vincenzo, he found another brother but this time he was guided to do something for the better. While it felt like his death could have been avoided, he also did something that one - helped his brother Vincenzo and two - saved someone other than himself. And with the takedown of Babel and everyone involved, it also felt like there was no place for him to return to. More acknowledgement on his death was however, very much needed. It was a redemption but a tragic one unfortunately. 

Then we have the trio villains and gotta admit as gory as the whole death ordeal was, it ‘fit’ them. Overkill as it may seem, I think it stemmed from the fact that Babel involved people that werent ‘villains’ and Vincenzo had to get revenge against the villains and for the innocent people.  

Out of all, Cha Young deserved more. I do really wish we got to see more of her being a badass lawyer and more involved in the final takedown. The only thing convincing me otherwise is that we know she said she chose the lesser evil, but her best way of dealing with people is still through the law and the court and I dont think it wouldve quite done her character justice if she agreed to accompany Vincenzo in his final spree and then go back to court later on. Also, Chayenzo deserved more. More hugs, forehead kiss at the hospital maybe and more time together than Korea-Italy days. If their love language is actions not words, more action please lol. 

Which brings me to Vincenzo. He had to leave for his Italian family makes more sense than the police suddenly deciding to get their shit together at the end. Also Mr Ahn and Mr Cho couldve definitely worked out how to bring him back safely for sure. Had really thought for a second they were gonna make him an NIS agent too. For the anti-hero part, I knew he wouldnt sugar coat it into saying its for the greater good, but like the monk said, I hope he did understand that his actions held weight and they made a difference and it wasnt just to  satisfy his inner monster. I hope his anger gets placated and he finds peace within himself. 

Finally, idk abt season 2, I wouldnt say no to it I think and I definitely wouldn’t turn down a special episode focusing on Chayenzo lol. 

[drivingsideways]

Misaeng review

Ok, it's been almost a week, so I feel like I can get my thoughts (somewhat) in order. As usual, I'm late to the party, given that Misaeng aired 6 years ago, and is already considered a kdrama classic. Still: thoughts!

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I came to this drama with quite a lot of expectations, both because I'd seen it on a lot of rec lists, and also because I'd watched director Kim Won-seok's Signal and My Mister, which are justifiably as beloved as Misaeng. I'm happy to report that Misaeng mostly lived up to those expectations!

The writing & direction work together to make Misaeng a very immersive experience, which is good, considering the entire run time is over 20 hrs. The level of seemingly mundane detail of the operational aspects of running a trading firm that they delve into (and other dramas might have avoided for sake of pacing) seemed odd to me at first, but eventually result in a world building that's incredibly well fleshed out. The (formerly unlikely!) high stakes of a misplaced piece of paper or octopuses in a shipment of squid end up being parts of an emotionally wrenching narrative whole fairly seamlessly. Still, at 20+ hours, Misaeng also does get into the kind of pacing issues that most of the slice of life kdramas I've watched so far have. And it didn't need to! I think it had a wonderful ensemble of characters, and if they'd maybe given a little more time and space to characters other than Jang Geu-Rae (Im Si wan) and Oh Sang-sik (Lee Sung-min), the mid portions may not have felt quite so, well, stuck.

But more than the strong writing and direction, it was really the actors who delivered. They made what could have easily been a dull-ish office drama into a heart warming story about human connection and the joys and troubles of leading an "incomplete life". I'd never watched Lee Sung-min in anything before, and about half way through the series I was like, HOW IS HE MAKING A SHORT TEMPERED, ALCHOHOLIC MIDDLE MANAGER SO SEXY? Like, serious props, dude. Lee Sung-min is by turns annoying and brash and too shout-y and stubborn and funny and so incredibly vulnerable as a man trying his best to live by his principles in a world that thinks they are an impediment to "success", that you forget that he's playing a fictional character-- he's someone you know, he's someone you've seen in the mirror.

His performance as Oh Sang-sik is very ably matched by Im Si Wan's Jang Geu-Rae. This series would not have worked if these two actors didn't have the chemistry they do, and play off each other in every scene. I had watched Im Si Wan recently- in JTBC's "Run On", in which I liked his performance quite a lot, but I absolutely loved him as the naive and endearing Jang Geu-rae. Misaeng, is in part, a bildungsroman narrative centered around Jang Geu Rae. Im Si wan brought a kind of vulnerability to the role that might have felt cloying and emotionally manipulative in the hands of other actors, but Im Si-wan manages to do it with a light touch. I feel he's one of those actors that uses his whole body in a scene, not just relying on facial or verbal expression, and it's a joy to watch.

Each of the other actors in the ensemble also bring that dedication and talent to their roles, even if it's in a single scene. There are lots of one-off characters that we meet during the course of the series, and every single one of them leaves an impact.

But! I'm going to pick a fave from the supporting cast and that's Byun Yo-han, whom I'd last watched as the broody, troubled (and very sexy) swordsman Lee Bang-ji in Six Flying Dragons. I can't imagine a character more in opposition to that one than Han Seok-yul in Misaeng, but Byun Yo-han just knocks it out of the park as the scheming, cheerful and mostly inappropriate clown with a heart of gold; Han Seok-yul is the definition of Chaotic Good, and you're equal parts horrified by his antics- which include sexual harassment dont @ me -- and yet charmed by him. I wish they'd given him a few more scenes and a larger plotline to work with, but I also suspect that he might have just walked away with the entire series if they did that. (Am I plotting that series in my head as I write this? MAYBE.)

Alright, this is getting a bit too long, so I'm going to get to the bits that disappointed me. That's really one major thing: the gender politics. I don't know how different the show is from the web toon it's based on, so I can't tell whether they made significant changes to the basic plot and characters. As in- I have no idea if the webtoon was as male dominated in every way as the show is, so I'm not sure how much of the show's treatment of women as a class, and its female characters in particular, I should lay at the door of the original writer vs the screenwriter and director. I'm also lacking the Korean context in which this was written and made and aired, so you may take my criticism with a pinch of salt, if you please!

That the show features mainly male characters is perhaps unsurprising and realistic, since we know that the kind of corporate life it depicts is very male dominated, top to bottom. The show also portrays the very real and horrific overt and subtle misogyny that women face in the workplace and out of it; mainly in the character of Ahn Young-yi, played with steely determination and quiet suffering by the lovely Kang so-ra. There are only 3 other female characters that have any sort of real speaking role- Sun Ji Young (played by Shin Eun jung), a senior manager at the company, Jang Geu-rae's unnamed(!) mother (played by the amazing Sung Byoung-Sook) and Oh Sang-sik's unnamed (!) wife (played by Oh Yoon-Hong, who's a delight in every tiny scene she has). There are other women who appear but in very minor roles, and often in "comedy" moments that often rely on sexist tropes to start with.

Anyway, right there you can see one of the problems- 4 women characters that have any kind of real screen time, and only 2 of them are named. Aigoo! Screenwriter Jung Yoon-jung is a woman, and like, I don't like putting the burden on any one woman to y'know fix structural misogyny, but I can't also help feeling disappointed that she overlooked even this "small" thing among the larger things.

But that apart, the main issue for me was that while the show doesn't shy away from depicting egregious sexism in the form of sexual harrassment, verbal and physical and certainly emotional abuse, in a manner that's clear that we are meant to be horrified by it--it falls short of depicting how women deal and work with it. It just doesn't give enough space to women or their worldview.

It's very comfortable depicting victimhood, but doesn't put work into depicting the ways in which women survive by finding solidarity with other women. We have a scene or two where Ahn Young-yi who is this show's poster child for female victimhood interacts with the older women who offer sympathy and understanding, but no real strategy or support. And yes, we see men also being targeted by their seniors for the grossest verbal and physical abuse; and it's men who help Ahn Young-yi strategise on how to deal with her situation. Real life experience tells me that it's the women who do this work for other women. I have certainly been on both sides of this equation, for one, and so has every woman that I know in corporate life. And yes, one of the show's core philosophies is that those who endure, survive--but it is none the less extremely painful to watch Ahn Young yi "endure" the kind of abuse she does as a coping strategy and a survival strategy.

At the end of it, when she slowly manages to gain the support of her sexist team, it's shown as a victory-- though naturally imperfect, because this show takes its Realism very seriously (right until the end where it makes a tonal shift into quirky that I was a little ?? about)-- and y'know, sure, it is a victory. And I absolutely understand the choices she makes and why she does it-- I guess I just got annoyed by the fact that other antagonistic figures in the narrative get a more straightforward comeuppance for their egregious behavior, but Ahn Young-yi doesn't even get a goddamned apology from her abusers. Instead, we have a half humourous, half serious moment where she comments on how she's working at turning herself into "someone cute"- because she understands now that sometimes the right strategy is to "go with the flow". Be the water that slowly wears away at the rock. It's an interesting moment- the men she tells this to are taken aback by her bluntness, but also a little clueless about what she means. It's the kind of nuance that I would and do enjoy. Unfortunately, it also closely follows one of the show's most annoying scenes at the tail end of the series- where it tries to play off workplace sexism and misogyny as comedy- boys being boys-Reader, when I tell you that I had to WORK to unclench my jaw--!

I'm not saying we should have a single and obvious narrative of female emancipation. I'm not against realism in fiction, but god, sometimes, please do remember that when we look for escapism, we are actually imagining a better world. The first step toward liberation is allowing yourself to imagine it.

And the show does allow other characters its moments of unfettered fantasy- Im Si Wan parkour-ing all over the rooftops of Amman- and having a semi mystical + Indiana Jones moment in the deserts of Jordan--so why, I ask, are the women not given that gift?

*looks into the camera *

Tl;dr: I enjoyed it, it made me cry every episode, and I cared about all the characters, and if you haven't watched it yet, treat yourselves.

PS. Yes, Han Seok-yul is a disaster bi, sorry, I don't make the rules. Yes, hotties Oh Min Seok and Kang Ha-neul are canonically naked in a hot tub six feet apart because they are bros. Yes, I will be writing the fix it in which they fuck like angry bunnies. Yes, I am going to put my shipper cooties all over this gen slice of life show, deal with it.

[beezonia]

Vincenzo as Greek Gods pt2

Hey guys its been a while but I'm back and also ready to cry this weekend as everyone's favourite drama ends. But I hope y'all enjoy reading this and if u want to talk about it or anything to do with Vincenzo or anything else dont hesitate to message me.

Han-Seok - Ares -

Its obvious as to why hes Ares, the God of war. We know that he tends to starts battles he cant finish and he's got a giant temper and acts like a child in a thirty somthing year olds body just like Ares. We can tell he holds grudges against people and we know in this giant game of chess hes the king, just like Ares who had a giant ego like Han-Seok does. He cant win this without Myung-Hee and even then both of them cant win the battle. He trys to think rationally but can only think with his fists and that's the reason why  he links in so much with Ares as he literally just thinks with his fists doesn't care about the consequences he just wants the fame and the fortune just like Ares who literally starts wars for the fun of it.

Myung-Hee - Hera -

I definitely struggled with this one but I feel like she would represent Hera because she has to deal with somone who has a giant ego and continuously does wrong to them or forces them to do somthing they dont want to do, exactly like Zeus did to Hera. We see that like Hera Myung-Hee puts up with the childish behaviour of Han-Seok  but we can see shes getting tired of it. Like Hera she doesn't make excuses she gets to the point and she deals with things straight away, shes not afraid to do anything to succeed which is why she represents Hera alot more then I thought she would.

Han-Seo -

Persephone/ Hebe - Hes definitely a Persephone, the innocence the hurt and everything Han-Seo has been through represents the shelterd life of Persephone. Hes been manipulated all his life abused just like Demeter  with Persephone and not allowing her the freedom she wants. He represents Hebe because of his youth hes young and hes still got so much of his life ahead of him but can't celebrate that because of Han-Seok and Babel. We see him changing though when he starts to side with Vincenzo just like Persephone did in the underworld, we see him become more confident and that means he could stand up to his brother and potentially be his downfall.

[jisuyayaya]

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#5

Hanseo : *stands up to his toxic brother, took not one bullet but TWO BULLETS, and just sacrificing his own life to save others*

Others :

84 notes • Posted 2021-06-14 09:00:29 GMT

#4

In episode 19 we see Hanseok out of prison and he goes to Hanseo in his office. You know what i noticed? He brought a gun, and he uses it on Hanseo, who is the owner of that gun. The gun is Hanseo's weapon, but it was used against himself.

Later, in an attempt to save Vincenzo and Chayoung, Hanseo distracts Hanseok with the hockey stick. You know what that hockey stick is?? Yep, that is Hanseok's weapon. That hockey stick belongs to Hanseok, but it was used on himself by his little brother.

The weapons they own are used against themselves. Im not exactly sure what this means but its interesting!!

84 notes • Posted 2021-05-02 09:56:29 GMT

#3

Chayoung : i'm going to make you regret being born >:)

Hanseo : jokes on you, i already regret being born!

Chayoung :

Chayoung : are you... okay? do you wanna, like, talk about it or something?

97 notes • Posted 2021-06-11 16:26:47 GMT

#2

Hanseo : *is bleeding horribly*

Vincenzo : quick, what's your type?

Hanseo : honestly its anyone, but i especially like someone who can help me be a good person, ya know?

Vincenzo : i meant your BLOOD TYPE you idiot!!

119 notes • Posted 2021-06-23 04:43:28 GMT

#1

I love how the detective guy repeats back the words that are said to him, i think its a nice little touch. Like for example at the beginning when he sneaked in and started disguising himself as one of the red people, his superior was like "Have you forgotten the rules? Dont speak unless spoken to" or something like that. And then later when he stole a superior's mask and started disguising himself as one, he repeated those words to the red people that has a lower rank than him.

It also happened when that dude who sold eliminated players' organs tried to threaten him. I think the dude said something like "Show me your face, or should i do it myself?" while pointing a knife to his face. But then the detective pulled out a gun on him, and repeated the same words back to him.

Later, it happened in that VIP room with that white dude wearing the golden mask. He told the detective "If you can satisfy me in 5 minutes, i can change your life" but our beloved detective tricked him and took out his gun again, repeating the white dude's words back to him.

Its a pretty cool detail, i think.

173 notes • Posted 2021-09-22 08:48:50 GMT

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[demelzahcarne]

And here we go last episode of Vincenzo. 1h30m....good luck wrapping this up nicely or maybe open end for that season2 I long so badly for?! We will see...

As I said CLOY prepared me for this pain but han seo/kwak dong yeon is way harder in my heart so this isnt the best way for the next 80min and my emotions....I am so not okay. One bullet for kpop idol ain't enough I hope vinnie puts all them bullets in him for what he did to his hyung.

Vinnie and chayoung really could be that couple that doesnt need to say I love you for the other one to know, unspoken words can be so great but I know its gonna come near the ending but truly they dont need it

Talking about justice doesnt bring about justice. True words, could be the hidden tagline of the show.

OMFG we are here its killing time for zumba bitch...YES! I have waited only 18Eps for this, be calm cool and collected. IAMFREAKINGTHEFUCKOUTTHISISALLOFMYFAVHOLIDAYSCOMBINEDKILLHERNICEANDSLOW

You will dream of Mexico, you little fucker.

One down, two to go...I knew one of the three would be killed by their own. But I always thought han seok would kill zumba bitch eventually. They truly have a creepy vibe goin

CELEBRATE GOOD TIMES COME ON, ITS A CELEBRATION. I AM SO HIGH RIGHT NOW. DANCE ZUMBA TO THE SOUND OF THAT LIGHTER, BITCH!

I love the writer for that whole scene, most pleasing scene ever it's basically what I always longed for, for her to die with her stupid zumba stick and it's so fucking rewarding. No matter what, that finale gets 12/10 for this. Perfection is thy name.

Han seok really be out here taking all my faves. We hate him already no need for this. Oh come on, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Oh my white angel pls save him, please. My white angel nurse saved him and Mr Lee will show up at the end, I refuse to go with another outcome. RE-FUCKING-FUSE!

Han Seo and Vinnie flashback. My heart. God I am so emotional today.

I need to see him really dead though. He is fighting too much for me to believe he isnt gonna free himself. The evil in kdramas always survive somehow. I am sceptic til I see his rotten body.

Are we already close doing a timejump?! What.

GEUMGA Motherfuckers in black be back, I am their fanclub president.

That hoppity bobbity trait of chayoung is one of the greatest idea that the actress came up with to visualize her character.

This screams for season2!

I will rally hard for it to happen.

The way the writers stayed true the character of vinnie and chayoung til the fucking last second is truly one of the first times in a kdrama. It's so them and that indirect sarangheo, chefkiss.

However I was hella mad they didnt sneak out to geumga plaza to celebrate with the found family....I missed that dynamic of them all sitting in the pizzeria

[butterflyheart-me]

Tagging Challenge

So I’ve been tagged by my lovely friend @gelreads​ <3

The challenge is to post 5 favorite actors and actresses from dramas. You can choose from any dramas, not just thai dramas like my list :)

Took me a while but here they are:

Top 5 Actors

1. Tommy Sittichok

I know I only seen him in Why R U series but he already have my heart. His good looks and charm just got me snatched. Aside from he’s godly adorableness, he’s acting is on point. He’s great playing this adorable, gay panicking and clumsy Zon. In real life, he’s still adorable but more mature and bad-ass (he served in the military).

Notable Series/Film I know he is in : Why R U as Zon  (hoping he will have more projects w/Jimmy )

2. Fluke Pongsatorn

This actor is one of the best BL actors of his time. A really versatile actor. He can play comedic, cute, dramatic, serious and even very mature roles. I love him best as Pharm. He was just so adorable and whenever he cried, I cried with him

Notable Series/Film I know he is in:

1.  Until We Meet Again- Pharm

2. My Bromance the Movie - Bank

3. Red Wine in the Dark Night (R-rated) - Wine

3.  Gun Attaphan

Another actor that really pulled my heartstrings. He is such a great actor. He’s probably the best actor in GMMTV ( just my opinion). He’s also a very versatile actor. I love him most as Third because he’s just so lovable yet so savage at the same time. However, his acting really shined through in his role as Punn in the Gifted because his character is very complicated and multilayered.

Notable Series/Film I know he is in: 

1. Theory of Love - Third

2. Puppy Honey - Rome

3. The Gifted - Punn

4. The Blue Hour (i know he is in it but I haven’t completely watched it)

4. Gong Yoo

Since the challenge said any drama, I’m going to Kdramaland a bit. He is one of the best actors in Korea. My heart swooned when he played as Choi Han Kyul in Coffee Prince. My heart fell in love when as he played as Kim Shin in Goblin. My heart broke when he played as Seok-woo in Train to Busan. Such a great actor

Notable Series/Film I know he is in:

1. Coffee Prince - Choi Han Kyul

2. Goblin - Kim Shin

3. Train to Busan - Seok-woo

5. Ohm Pawat

I just love this pup okay! He’s adorable! When he smiles, I smile! When he cries, I will definitely cry! 

Notable Series/Film I know he is in: 1. Make It Right Season 1 and 2 -Frame

2. He’s Coming To Me - Thun

3. War of High School - Pound

Top Five Actresses

1. Park Min-young

I love her so so much She’s beautiful and I love her roles. She’s such an amazing actress. I love her best in What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim when she played as Kim Mi-so  because she’s just an icon of women independence and femininity

Notable Series/Film I know she is in:

1. Sunkyunkwan Scandal - Kim Yoon-shik/Kim Yoon-hee

2. What’s Wrong With Secretary Kim - Kim Mi-so

3. Her Private Life- - Sung Deok Mi

2. Yoo In-na

This actress is just amazing. She can play a supporting character and still root for her. She can be the chic and sassy lady or the bubbly actress. The duality is awesome

Notable Series/Film I know she is in:

1. Secret Garden - Im Ah- young

2. My Love from the Star- Yoo Se Mi

2. Goblin- Sunny

3. Touch Your Heart- Oh Jin-shim

3. Ella Chen

Ok this one is pretty old and isn’t very active anymore but I still love her anyway. She has a very unique charm because of her androgynous look. She’s awesome when she does her dramatic scenes and very cute when she’s in a romcom.

Notable Series/Film I know she is in:

1. Hana Kimi - Lu Rui Xi

2. The Rose - Zheng Bai He

3. Down With Love- Yang Guo

4. Song  Ji Hyo

Technically she is an actress  who did act in dramas so she counts but I love her because of Running Man. She is the Ace and also known as Mong (Blank) Ji because she looks out of it sometimes. I just love her okay. 

5. Gong Hyo Jin

The queen of romcoms. I just love her. She’s just so natural. 

Notable Series/Film I know she is in:

1. Master’s Sun - Tae Gong Shil

2. The Greatest Love - Gu Ae Jung

so i would like to tag @multifangirl28​ @bl-crossingtheline​ @no1readsmyblog​ @bookscoffee75​ hope you guys dont mind

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Official Ranking Ep. 6

Finally, I can recognise them better now and here is my Top 11 pick (in preference order).

Let's debut, ga ja !

1. Kim Woo Seok

2. Cho Seung Youn

3. Yuri

4. Han Seung Woo

5. Kim Si Hoon

6. Kim Yo Han

7. Kim Min Kyu

8. Song Dong Pyo

9. Song Yu Vin

10. Moon Hyun Bin

11. Goo Jung Mo

Edit: I'm having a dilemma that I KNOW I need to put Geum Dong Hyun in Top 11, but sadly I dont know who to swap him with.

***************************

Also rooting for these trainees.

12. Lee Mi Dam

13. Cha Jun Ho

14. Kim Hyeon Bin

15. Park Sun Ho

16. Choi Byung Chan

Let me know your Top 11 pick too.

Cr: TVunicorn @ youtube

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JHB '81 Episode 27 as a series of incoherent Discord messages

Episode 27

[7:46 PM]It's concubine selection time!

[7:47 PM]His sister Myeongan and Aunt Suk An are invovled

[7:48 PM]Inhyeon is waiting, but for whom?

[7:48 PM]Jangryeol is here to see Inhyeon

[7:49 PM]Jangryeol: Why'd you ask for a concubine selection?

[7:49 PM]"This is all wrong! You're in your prime to have a child!"

[7:49 PM]Inhyeon: I've put good thought into this, don't stop me

[7:50 PM]JAngryeol: I know, but a concubine could bring you more problems

[7:50 PM]"Imagine if the concubine became arrogant with a child?"

[7:50 PM]"Even if she's a good person, she'll still be a threat if she has a child"

[7:51 PM]Inhyeon: I've thought of it all

[7:51 PM]"For the nation it's importannt we have a child"

[7:51 PM]At the Western Faction

[7:52 PM]Song Shi Yeol: What do we do?

[7:52 PM]Min Jeong Jung: We've organized some girls from the Noron factionn to be picked

[7:52 PM]Song Shi Yeol: Yes, we must do that, fo rthe Queen's sake

[7:52 PM]Min Yu Jung: This is to stop Jang Suk Won from having a child first

[7:52 PM]"So we're picking someone who's perfect for childbirth"

[7:53 PM]"Kim Su Hang's granddaughter will do"(edited)

[7:53 PM]Ok Jeong is pissed about the concubine

[7:53 PM]Flashbacking on what the Queen told her last episode

[7:54 PM]idk if the film is red bc of the show's age or if it's on purpose

[7:54 PM]it was the film's age

[7:54 PM]Ok Jeong' smom is here to see her

[7:54 PM]Ok Jeong: The more I think about it, the angrier I am

[7:54 PM]"The Queen and I must've been enemies in out past life"

[7:55 PM]"I've tried everything to have a child"

[7:56 PM]"Literally everything - the spoon to the eye, drinkinng the Buddha's nose, ..."

[7:56 PM]"Ingyeong had two princesses, so it's not the King's fault"

[7:56 PM]"A child might not be in my fate"

[7:56 PM]"I won't spend my time in tears like Ingyeong did"

[7:57 PM]Jo Sa Seok is here

[7:57 PM]Jo Sa Seok: Did you hear the rumors?

[7:57 PM]"The Noron have decided the concubine"

[7:58 PM]Ok Jeong's mom: "Without the selection process?"

[7:58 PM]Ok Jeong: who is it?

[7:58 PM]Jo Sa Seok: Kim Su Hang's granddaughter

[7:58 PM]Lady Oh is back from out of the Palace

[7:59 PM]Inhyeon: What took you s o long?

[7:59 PM]"Did you meet my mom?"

[7:59 PM]Lady Oh: "She says don't worry, we've selected the concubine"

[7:59 PM]Inhyeon: Kim Su Hang's granddaughter? She's nice

[7:59 PM]Lady Oh: She has all the features for good childbirth

[8:00 PM]There are a lot of requirements

[8:00 PM]deep navel, dark nipples, round face, something like that - that's just 3 of 10 requiremrnts

[8:00 PM]Inhyeon: What a relief for the nation

[8:01 PM]Kim Su Hang's granddaighter is here, now Kim Suk Ui!

[8:01 PM]Ok Jeong wants to see what's going on

[8:01 PM]She's not pleased

[8:02 PM]Kim Suk Ui's chambers will be next to the Queen's

[8:02 PM]She meets the Queen for the first time

[8:03 PM]Inhyeon: Welcome

[8:03 PM]"I've been waiting for you"

[8:03 PM]Kim Suk Ui: The honor is all mine

[8:03 PM]Suk Won is supposed to see Suk Ui. as she is lower than her in rank

[8:04 PM]Suk Ui: Lower RAnk 2 Suk Won: Lower Rank 4

[8:04 PM]Lady Ccheon tells Ok Jeong what happened

[8:04 PM]Ok Jeong: I don't care what happened when she came

[8:04 PM]Does she really haveegood features for childbirth?

[8:05 PM]Lady Cheon: Yes, she does

[8:05 PM]"The Queen says they'll have a child soon"

[8:05 PM]It's time for Suk Ui's first night with Sukjong

[8:05 PM]Sukjongn is curious

[8:06 PM]The court ladies: Enjoy ;)

[8:06 PM]Sukjong: come closer

[8:06 PM]Kim Suk Ui comes closer, but she's shy

[8:07 PM]Ok Jeong is overcome with jealousy

[8:07 PM]She's imaginign waht could happen

[8:07 PM]Sukjong: Give us a Prince, for me, for the Queen, for the nation

[8:07 PM]Inhyeon: Did everything go fine?

[8:08 PM]Lady Oh: Yes

[8:08 PM]Inhyeon: Suk Ui really looks like she can bear lots of children. It's the nation's fortune

[8:08 PM]"If Suk Ui bears a Prince, I can adopt him and make him Crown Prince"

[8:09 PM]"How did I reach this state? Unable to bear a chcild and lost the King's favor..."

[8:09 PM]Southern faction is having a restless night

[8:10 PM]Ok Jeong's mother is back at Dongpyeong's

[8:10 PM]They're curious about everything

[8:10 PM]Ok Jeong refused to see her mother after that day

[8:10 PM]The King only goes to Kim Suk Ui these days

[8:11 PM]Hee Jae: All this effort for nothing...

[8:11 PM]Dongpyeong: Don't feel too bad, Suk Won won't backc down like this

[8:11 PM]Ok JEong's mother: That's what worries me

[8:11 PM]"I remember what Ok Jeong said before"

[8:11 PM]"She said she won't live in the backroom without favor"

[8:12 PM]No spoon this time but Suk Won is squinting at the sun for a baby

[8:12 PM]Sukjong visits Ok Jeong

[8:12 PM]Ok Jeong is despondent

[8:13 PM]She won't let him touch her

[8:13 PM]Sukjong: Are you jealous of the new concubine? Lmao cute

[8:14 PM]"Okay enough, my heart is with you, even if my body is with Suk Ui"

[8:14 PM]"You know I can't leave a new concubine alone"

[8:14 PM]Sukjong's had it

[8:14 PM]"You insult me over this"

[8:14 PM]"The Queen's happy about this for the nation!"

[8:14 PM]"Fuck you I won't come back!"

[8:15 PM]It's all part of Ok Jeong's plan but yes, she is pissed

[8:15 PM]He's at the Queen's now

[8:15 PM]Inhyeon: I saw your mother ina dream

[8:16 PM]"She said the new concubine will have a lot of children, but Jang Suk Won has no children and is therefore not blessed"

[8:16 PM]Sukjong sees Inhyeon's jealousy

[8:16 PM]He thinks it's okay if they're jealous, and feels sorry for Ok Jeong

[8:17 PM]Okay now he doesn't

[8:17 PM]Ok Jeong heard what the Queen said

[8:17 PM]"She's cursing me, isn't she?"

[8:17 PM]Sukjong said he'll never visit Ok Jeong again

[8:18 PM]Lady Cheon: I don't understand, why did you rebuff him?

[8:18 PM]"Now all the servants think you're out of favor"

[8:18 PM]"Now that the Queen supports Kim Suk Ui, Suk Ui's servants are all arrogant"

[8:18 PM]"What do we do?"

[8:19 PM]Ok Jeong: "It's nothing to be afraid of"

[8:19 PM]"Even if I die for favor, I won't be pushed to the backcfoom"

[8:19 PM]Lady Go (Suk Ui's court lady) is outside

[8:19 PM]Lady Go says Suk Ui is waiting for Suk Won to present hersself

[8:20 PM]Lady Cheon tells Ok Jeong

[8:20 PM]Ok Jeong: I never knew we had a new concubine lol anyway tell her to come to me

[8:20 PM]Suk Ui" What?

[8:20 PM]"What ana rrogant wrech"

[8:21 PM]"I should go teach her a lesson!"

[8:21 PM]Lady Go: Please maintain your dignity

[8:21 PM]Don't let a lowly Suk Won make you angry

[8:21 PM]She's supposed to cocme to you anyway

[8:22 PM]Suk Ui: I may be a concubine, but I was brought in by selection, a Suk Ui from a noble family!

[8:22 PM]"She's just a translator's daughter, a lowclass Suk Won who was once a court maid"

[8:22 PM]"Tell her to come now!"

[8:22 PM]Ok Jeong hears this

[8:22 PM]"I was here first, she should come to me!"

[8:23 PM]"Ranks mean nothing, I was here first!"

[8:23 PM]Jangryeol hears what's going on

[8:23 PM]lady Han: shit's going to hit the fan

[8:23 PM]Jangryeol: Do the King and Queen know?

[8:23 PM]Lady Han: Yes, they do

[8:24 PM]Jangryeol: If Suk Ui bears a child, it'll be trouble

[8:24 PM]Lady Han: please save Lady Suk Won

[8:24 PM]Jangryeol: lol what? No

[8:24 PM]Sukjong heard about this

[8:24 PM]Suk Won's going to Suk Ui's chambers

[8:25 PM]Sukjong finds them both arrogant and foul

[8:25 PM]Ok Jeong: How dare Suk Ui nisult me like this? bring her out

[8:25 PM]Suk Ui comes out

[8:26 PM]Lady Oh calls them both into the Queen's Palacec

[8:26 PM]Inhyeon: sit down, both of you

[8:27 PM]You two are too much

[8:27 PM]Do you take the King, Queen and Grand Queen Dowager so ligtly?

[8:27 PM]To fight in our presence?

[8:27 PM]Suk Won, your behavior is bizarre

[8:27 PM]Your rank is lower than hers, do you take her so lightly?

[8:27 PM]The difference between you two is so much, how cann you insult her liek this?

[8:28 PM]LAdy Oh, birng the whip!

[8:28 PM]Disciplining you is my duty as Queen, now roll up yours kirt!"

[8:28 PM]Dont' you hear me? Roll up your skirt!

[8:29 PM]I'm whipping you today, but next time I'll torture you!

[8:29 PM]Inhyeon whips Ok Jeong, who faints right after

[8:29 PM]Sukjong is worried

[8:30 PM]Sukjong: How hard did the Queen whip her for her to faint?

[8:30 PM]End of episode

[deonideatta]

OK I've gotten through the 7 stages of grief, here are my arguments for and against Han Seo and his 'betrayal'

I do think it’s possible that Han Seo just decided to betray Vincenzo, though i don’t like the thought and I hope this isn’t the case. The greatest evidence for it is the way he acts. The way he reacted to Vincenzo pulling the gun on him did not seem faked, nor did his reaction to Mr Han’s smug announcement that he had found a way to off Vincenzo. It is worth noting that we do see what appears to be a moment of hesitation on his part before he enthusiastically praises Mr. Han for covering all their bases. For the last part of the episode all of Han Seo’s behaviour says that he’s betrayed Vincenzo for real (right down to him not telling Jipuragi squad about Mr Han’s promotion), but that doesn’t really mean anything if you argue that it’s all part of a wider plan, and that he’s just acting. So besides just taking his actions at face value, there’s also the point that there is no point to it being a plot? Like what do Vincenzo and Han Seo stand to gain from staging a betrayal and having Vincenzo get shot in front of Interpol?? What would the benefit of that be? (Edit: OK so someone told me that it might be to delay interpol deporting vincenzo so that they could work on clearing his name, and that gives a lot of support to the theory of it being a plot) Please enlighten me if I'm missing something here because it seems to me that the only entity that benefits from everything is Babel, as now their biggest pain in the neck is gone. This gives Han Seo every reason to actually betray Vincenzo, especially since it was in a setting where he felt backed up (Interpol waiting in the wings). He’s managed to take back the chairman position, oust his brother, and his right hand man (Mr. Han) is the chief prosecutor. Technically he doesn’t need Vincenzo to ensure his safety anymore, nor does he really have to keep helping him by leaking info, since it’d be fighting against his own company now. Plus Vincenzo already seems to have a plan in place, which he entrusted to Cha Young earlier in the episode. Not to mention Vincenzo getting shot, and how genuinely shocked he seemed. So perhaps Han Seo really will just be another example of how greed corrupts the best of intentions, a second Prosecutor Jung. Unless all of it is a ploy on Han Seo's part?

Which it might well be bc nothing is ever as it seems with this drama, so here are some points on why Han Seo’s betrayal might not be as simple as that.

Firstly we've seen so much character development for Han Seo, and it seemed like at some point the drama really began to try to endear him to us. He's clumsy, he's not very bright, he's funny, he's the underdog, we pity him and want him to succeed. We see him join up with Jipuragi squad, we see his quest to be liked and to come out of the shadow of his brother and his abuse. He’s flawed, but we grow attached to him, and we like him. Of course, you can argue that all this is to make the betrayal hurt even more later on. But just like the NIS director's buildup as a trustworthy character from the beginning was a good basis for assuming he wasn't on the wrong side, this could be the case for Han Seo too (though whether or not his character was ever built up as trustworthy is debatable). Prosecutor Jung’s betrayal already showed us that we can’t trust anyone, so why give us that again using Han Seo?

Secondly, that first hockey scene and how much Han Seo has come to idolize Vincenzo. We see how happy he is in the scene where they play hockey together, and how lighthearted their chatting is. We even get Is This Love played during the scene (lol). Han Seo is playful around Vincenzo in a way he can’t really be with anyone else, and from what we’ve seen, he really values that. I mean, look at the way he skated around like a gleeful child after Vincenzo left, and the way he called out grazie after him. As well as their interactions in the previous episodes, like when 80s Han Seo appears to brag about how he risked his own safety to save Geumga Plaza. Before the last 15 minutes of this episode Han Seo is a huge Vincenzo fanboy, and you can argue that he wouldn’t suddenly do a 180 like that. There’s also the fact that Vincenzo said he would kill Han Seo only if he betrayed him. The fact that that was the only condition he gave makes it even more significant if Han Seo has actually betrayed him. It having been said that that was the one thing he shouldn’t do, why would he go ahead and do just that? I mean, you could argue that Vincenzo mentioning betrayal was foreshadowing, both for Han Seo’s actual betrayal and thus his eventual death, but we’re trying to look on the bright side here lol Edit: ok so my memory is actually garbage and he never said that, disregard that bit lol

There’s also little things like the clip that shows Han Seo calling Vincenzo from a car wearing different clothes (why would they have a whole wardrobe change and shot of him in the car for a 3 second shot of him basically just saying “we need to talk” when they could have just had him call from the ice? so there is most likely a longer scene in the car), the fact that Vincenzo showed up with a gun (maybe it was just bc they were suspicious about the fact that Han Seo didn’t report on Mr Han’s promotion), or the fact that the movement Vincenzo made with the gun before he got shot was kinda odd. And perhaps most notably, Han Seo wondering who out of Vincenzo and Han Seok would come out on top in the end.

But truly, I dont know what to think. I definitely think we’re not getting the full story, but i’m not sure if that story is going to be good on Han Seo’s part. I really want to believe that it’s somehow all a ploy, but to me everything seems to be saying that it’s a real betrayal. Of course, no one can ever accurately predict things in this drama, and this seems like a cheap ending for a character that was sold to the audience so much, so I'd love to be wrong!! If anyone has any insights in either direction, please share!!!!

[sxfik]

Why is hanseok considered the greater evil, and vincenzo the lesser evil?? I genuinely dont understand, can you explain it to me please??

hiii thank you so much for sending me an ask!! i'm not going to lie, i saw this ask a long while ago when you originally sent it but it took me a long while to answer it because i really had to think about it and also it's kind of a hard question for me to answer. but, i will attempt my best to kinda give my thoughts on why we consider vincenzo as the "lesser evil."

first, i need to say that both vincenzo nor han seok are good people and i am not saying that either of them are good people. i am simply comparing their evil levels and explaining why we as viewers often find vincenzo to be the lesser evil than han seok.

second, we need to define what evil means in this context (which is kinda hard because it depends on each person's perception but aaa) if we're considering someone evil for purely their actions, excluding motivations, then both vincenzo and han seok are the same level of evil. han seok brutally murders, and psychologically and physically abuses people. vincenzo's actions (aka setting people on fire, abusing and murdering people, torturing people, etc.) also makes him evil.

BUT if you define evil through motivation, then vincenzo and han seok are still evil but not on the same level of evil. yes, both characters commit bad actions but their motivations are different. vincenzo kills only when given a reason to. for example, we know that a robber killed his foster parents so when he joined the mafia he both psychologically and physically tortured him for almost a year (now whether the method of killing is a justifiable or an equal punishment for the crime is an entirely different question and i just won't be able to answer that because it's just so hard and complex of a question.) he sets the warehouse on fire to get revenge on behalf of the victims of the drug produced in said factory. he kills the two people who killed cha young's father and he kills the people who set up the family of the dead researchers to look like a suicide. he only kills or tortures people who have done a wrong against him or the people he cares about.

on the other hand, han seok kills and tortures for his own amusement and gain. he kills the prosecutor with the hockey stick because he didn't get his way and they annoyed him. he allows and gives the resources to choi myung hee to kill or maim anyone that gets in the way of his plans. han seok murdered his classmates for no reason other than he didn't get what he wanted. and most of all, he tortured and abused han seo just for his amusement. han seo was his punching bag, where he would belittle and abuse him in order for han seok to get his anger out. he does bad actions without a given or justifiable reason. he would play with han seo and keep him on the edge at all times, because he got a power rush from it. so when you compare vincenzo and han seok's motivations for their actions, i don't think you can say that vincenzo is the same level of evil as han seok.

we also don't see vincenzo attacking someone beloved to the person who has done wrong in order to get revenge. for example, in order to hurt vincenzo, han seok kills vin's mother, who has not done anything wrong this situation. but with vincenzo, we never see that happening. even though we see vincenzo hanging out with prosecutor jung's family after he betrays them, there's not a moment that he actively threatens or attacks prosecutor jung's family. he doesn't threaten prosecutor jung or tell him he will kill his family because in his mind, it's not justifiable to take the life on another person who hasn't done wrongdoing in order to hurt the person who has. for han seok this is not true, he has killed or attacked innocent people to make his enemy hurt.

another reason we are bound to consider vincenzo 'a lesser evil' is because of remorse. despite vincenzo's motivations or actions, he displays remorse and regret for the killing he has done. han seok, on the other hand, does not. Vincenzo is haunted by the killings he has done, by the blood he has spilled and we don't ever see that ending even when he gains a family and gains love. even if he can justify his actions, he is still regretful of what he had to do. han seok does not show the same remorse as him, only feeling bad when it is his life that's under threat in the very last scene. not to mention that he brags about killing, he gets power and happiness from his killings both when he killed his classmates as well as when he killed the prosecutor. han seok takes pleasure in his actions, as he is shown dancing and being gleeful as he kills vincenzo's mother and many others. he has no regret or shame in what he has done.

in so many law and crime shows we see a "morally" good hero who "spares" the villain in the end because it is the "right thing to do" despite a) killing all their side minions that helped the villain and b) all of the villains evil actions and harm they have caused the victims. we, as viewers, often aren't satisfied at the end because we're not seeing the punishment match up to the crime. this show's main thesis is showing that han seok is so evil that no law or justice system can properly punish him for the pain and abuse he has inflicted on his victims AND because this system that is supposed to punish him is just as cruel and corrupt as he is. it's highlighting the injustice to the victims of babel as a corporation, victims of the justice and law system and victims of han seok himself. vincenzo is showing that he is the best punishment for han seok because vincenzo is a mirror to him and han seok in the end is getting a taste of his own medicine.

all of this is why that last monologue of the show is important. we, as viewers, are watching a show that frames vincenzo as the main protagonist. his actions and him are framed in a way to make us root for him, with the music and the cinematography. but we're also given small reminders of who he actually is throughout the show: through the nightmares he faces, through mr. tak telling him not to change into a lighter person, through the scene where he faces han seok in jail. and finally, that ending monologue is showing that no, he is still a bad person. he is still an evil person who is committing bad actions and us rooting for him to punish the villains in this show does not change the badness of his actions. really, that last line in vincenzo is making us question whether his actions are justifiable and can we actually root for him.

feel free to disagree with me or start a conversation below because i feel like this is a really interesting question but the answer to this changes based on each person's perception of morality and what constitutes a good person and a bad person. i feel like this is such a deep question and there's so many ways and angles that you can look at this from so i don't think i've done a great job in explaining everything but this was just what i came up with for today. there's also every chance that my line of reasoning or logic is flawed so i'm open to any criticisms to this so i can acknowledge and correct it!

(also if you want a good kdrama that asks these same questions and has that same energy as vincenzo then please watch taxi driver! it’s a great show and it really makes you think about the earlier questions of “does the punishment given out by vigilante justice match the crime committed by these people? to what extent is vigilante justice justifiable? where does the law draw the line between giving the victims of brutal crime justice vs protecting the criminal from cruel and unusual punishments?”)