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#im just saying there are other interesting animal-coded ship dynamics that can be explored
lucaonthropy · 6 months
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You know what an underrated animal-coded ship dynamic? Black cat x orange cat dynamic. It still has the opposite attract from the black cat x golden retriever but with the intentional no-braincell fuckery from the orange cat instead of cheer and happiness from the golden retriever. Like yeah the black cat would be silent in one corner melting to the shadow and the orange cat is hurling itself at a wobbly shelf with a) no plan, b) no foresight, and c) the meaning to fuck something up however it's done in the end. It's peak dynamic. To me at least
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batw1nggg · 4 months
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Is there a post you've made about why komaeda and mikan together is toxic or can you explain what you mean by the patient/doctor thing? I don't ship it I just also don't know why it would be bad
so i’ve gotten some good input from other anons before on why this doctor/patient dynamic is a terrible idea. komamiki can only be healthy if they gradually come to see each other as equals - if you’ve gone through mikan’s FTEs, youd see why mikan having a romantic partner medically dependent on her is. a recipe for disaster lol. ESPECIALLY since we are talking about pairing mikan with The terminally ill (x2! cancer and dementia!) character. he’d be so heavily reliant on her just for basic quality of life and it would become so ugly SO quick. mikan’s desire for control + komaeda’s belief in his inherent inferiority to the ultimates = bad bad bad bad.
also. just talking about doctor/patient dynamics in general. like this is a thing in the medical world that you Cannot operate on a loved one like imagine having to do an extremely intricate heart surgery on like your mom or something and you botch it like her own kid fucked her up for life thats Gonna Get Messy. and in therapy too im pretty sure it’s against the code to date a client because again. you shouldnt be dependent on a partner to heal. it’s just professionalism
point three. that is a gay man and a lesbian 👍 and also they kind of just straight up hate each other. you saw chapter 3 (‘oh ko but mikan was despaired thats why they hated each other’ no. she was sick of his bullshit.) in the anime he straight up knocks her to the ground to get to makoto. Theyre Beefing and not in the cool enemies to lovers tension way they just. Clash. personality wise
anyways I’ve said this before and i’ll say it again. the ugliness of their dynamic has the potential to be very interesting to explore (platonically. for me. see point three). there’s undeniably an understanding of each other’s minds between the two (after trial 3 when mikan’s like ‘you dont understand? is that because youve never been loved? i feel sorry for you’) theyre people who have both lived loveless lives, they see that in each other. and, in this case, mikan uses this understanding as a way to attack komaeda on a deeply personal level. because She Gets It too.
the issue is when shippers try to masquerade them as able to be healthy right off the bat and ignore all of these blaring red flags when examining these blaring red flags is. literally The thing that makes them interesting. it’s so watered down and Heterosexual its. ugh. Blehhhhh.
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tinkiisms · 7 years
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TIME TO DROP SOME OPINIONS....about the popular fairy fanbase ships.
yes i am. be prepared.
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okay im not genuinely meaning to ship-bash, these are just full honest opinions 
fawn/nyx
far from the worst, it’s actually quite a nice ship to build off of the antagonistic-beginning-turned-to-love trope. but there is a very real criticism to be made of “legend of the neverbeast” in that they changed fawn’s personality drastically from all the previous films/books/games/canon. from her abandoned tomboyishness to her ill-advised curiosity and willingness to break rules. her attitudes are much more akin to tinker bell in the earlier films.
remember when fawn hesitated to help tink try out new talents, or to understand tink’s curiosity about the winter woods, or humans...yeah, imo “neverbeast” would have made more sense for their characters if tink had been the one to approach a dangerous animal out of curiosity and gone to fawn for help, idk what they were thinking. “let’s give fawn a rounder face, a spiky dress and tinker bell’s personality, no one will notice!” (except tink herself. she invented that look.)
while fawn/nyx could definitely be it’s own thing and a unique dynamic, i think if you’re shipping fawn/nyx based on fawn’s personality in the last film you’re practically shipping tink/nyx at heart. which i do. fawn is already in love with rosetta, too, read the book.
tink/vidia
unlike fawn and nyx’s antagonism which was born of a specific situation/set of circumstances, tink and vidia’s began by vidia simply being extremely, unnecessarily rude and cruel to tink simply for being annoyed by her. i do enjoy this ship based on...headcanons, idk. but the way they interact really does not lend itself to a healthy basis for a relationship. i know everyone adores vidia’s change of heart after the events of “great fairy rescue,” and i too appreciate the sour/sweet dynamic, but it still doesn’t convince me that they’d be compatible on a real level besides the easy banter of friends.
what happens when they get into a fight again over one of their major differences and have the stakes of a relationship involved? meanwhile in the book series, we see that they absolutely still cannot stand one another, and maybe it’s just ‘cause i’m a book purist but i enjoy that dynamic more? i find it more interesting. tink/silvermist and vidia/prilla are much better, healthier starting places for a loving ship.
zarina/james
i don’t think i should need to explain why it’s messed up. he emotionally manipulated her for an entire year and then literally tried to murder her. but i don’t see people exploring this intrinsic and toxic part of their relationship, i see them glossing over it and romanticizing them, pretending james actually had feelings for her so they can ship it, while the only canon we got says otherwise...
tink/zarina is so much healthier, tink literally traded everything for zarina and supported her and wanted her to come home the whole time, z admired her from the beginning, there is so much room for both fluff and angst in their plot and it’s just wonderful.
tink/bobble
the fanbase makes the ship ugly. it didn’t have to be like this. it could be a cute tinker/tinker ship and i enjoy the possible shenanigans. but i’ve seen so many fans that seem to ship this specifically to spite the fact that tink and terence were implied by the narrative, and they hate terence for no good reason. i can’t count how many people say he has no personality, boring is “just a pretty boy” etc like??? that’s their prerogative to think so, but they then ship her with bobble who perfectly fits their “cute nerdy” stereotype, but do they ever ship her with clank? hmm? (spoiler alert: no. he’s not the right kind of nerdy attractive for them.)
they also ignore that bobble and clank literally live together and are...imho probably gay-coded with the way they’re always together, hugging, even acting like an old married couple. but that’s speculation. so i don’t Hate tink/bobble but i have my Feelings.
clarion/milori
this ship isn’t really a problem, but i just personally find it really boring. it came out of nowhere--there was no such thing as a lord of winter before “secret of the wings“ because there was a minister of winter who took care of that season’s duties. replacing the female minister with a male to push the contrived love story seems a little unnecessary but obviously disney does what it does.
i think queen ree was a fine character NOT to have a romance, having so much more to occupy her time and interests, and lord milori is an interesting character enough on his own bc of his broken wing subplot. the “forbidden love” aspect to mirror tink and peri’s would have interested me more if clarion had her own sibling, not a romance. “we were born of the same laugh.”
but again, it’s not a bad ship, it’s just not my personal preference. i’d have liked clarion with fairy mary or one of her actual ministers if they were going to do a romance, so it was hinted/built over more time.
rosetta/sled
again not bad, and i love that they both have that southern charm and like each other which i find adorable, but i have preferences over this. sled is a gentle but fun-loving animal talent--he takes rosetta on an owl ride in one comic which she doesn’t enjoy. reminds me of the frog-riding fawn did with rosetta once, only sled didn’t seem to notice ro’s being upset while fawn was very concerned in her case. imo sled/ro just feels unnecessarily heterosexual* when basically the same (if not better) dynamic could be achieved with rosetta and fawn.
ro and fawn also have clashing personalities in what they’re interested in, but it’s not like tink/vidia where they have deep ideological differences, they’re both loyal and loving and already best friends. that said, i do enjoy rosetta/sled, it’s just not the best option for me.
*unnecessarily heterosexual could describe rosetta’s character lol she’s had the most romances of all the characters, all boys, and yet i’m like “rosetta likes girls??? yes???” that’s just my fault for trying to force every character i like to be gay.
tink/terence
there are definitely aspects of their relationship i can see being reasons people wouldn’t ship them. the fact that terence is overbearingly “helpful” toward tink when she’s working, the fact that tink doesn’t communicate that she’s annoyed to him before exploding, the fact that they both held a grudge over the fight for a while at least. but that’s also something i find interesting that makes their relationship realistically imperfect--they’re never intentionally cruel to one another but they have some communication issues and pride to deal with, which they both work through by the end of “lost treasure” and come out the other with a stronger friendship/bond. in the end, they both make mistakes but they’re best friends and love each other.
in the books he’s hopelessly in love with her and she intentionally suppresses her own feelings for a long time which is also a little messy, but it’s never presented as terence being “friendzoned” and feeling like he deserves tink’s love even if he wants it, he is happy to be her actual friend, and i think that itself is a healthy portrayal of an unrequited-best-friend-crush that people ignore for some reason.
i think silvermist and tink have an equal amount of chemistry and best-friendship but the world is too oblivious to see it. one day you will all know.
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