hi menelaiad do you know who broteas is are you able to explain who all the broteas' are i need so much help
broteas? oh THIS guy. yeah. what an elusive beast.
so. there is a broteas that is the son of tantalus (sibling to pelops and niobe) he is synonymous with the sculptor broteas. this is also the same broteas who doesn't honour artemis and throws himself on a fire. (an australian poet made a reception piece that says broteas was the son of athena and hephaestus and threw himself on a fire cause he was so ugly. but that is reception clearly inspired by the original)
there are TWO broteas' in Ovid (broteas'? broteai?) one is the tantalid and one is just another dude who dies fighting centaurs.
confused? yeah, you're supposed to be. lemme' explain as best i can and with how I understand all this:
PAUSANIAS tells us that this sculpture of cybele was made by broteas, son of tantalus. so that's pretty clear cut:
[3.22.4] and some thirty stades farther is Acriae, a city on the coast. Well worth seeing here are a temple and marble image of the Mother of the Gods. The people of Acriae say that this is the oldest sanctuary of this goddess in the Peloponnesus, although the Magnesians, who live to the north of Mount Sipylus, have on the rock Coddinus the most ancient of all the images of the Mother of the gods. The Magnesians say that it was made by Broteas the son of Tantalus.
(here is the carving just cause yknow its nice. good job broteas)
APOLLODORUS tells us of this broteas:
[E.2.2] Broteas, a hunter, did not honor Artemis, and said that even fire could not hurt him. So he went mad and threw himself into fire.
NOW. we know this is the son of tantalus guy (or at least we can HEAVILY imply it is) because he's literally talking about the line of tantalus. the paragraph before is about tantalus and the paragraph after is about pelops. so it'd be weird to throw an unrelated guy in there.
HOW did he dishonour artemis? as far as i'm aware we do not know. or at least there's nothing concrete. the accepted or widely shared story comes from the little information we have: being a hunter, broteas should have been devoted and good to artemis, however, he abandons her to carve cybele in the mountain and dedicates his life to her. some even say refusing to carve anything for artemis. despite their connection through the hunt. so, being dishonoured that way, artemis sends him mad.
OVID also tells us of this act from Broteas and becomes the events and the guys name are the same?? we assume it's the same dude.
May you be worthy of truncation, like that son of Astacus,
Melanippus, a maimed corpse, your head eaten by your fellow men,
or may you give your burning limbs to the kindling pyre,
as they say Broteas did in his desire for death.
***** some believe this is the broteas who is the ugly son of athena and hephaestus. but i dont THINK it actually says??? i mean the 'desire for death' fits that narrative better BUT who knows broteas was driven mad so.
the other broteas in ovid is said to be a twin of ammon. so we can say this is a different guy because tantalus didn't have a son called ammon that we know of. so.
NOW. you're probably wondering about Tantalus II (first husband of clytemnestra killed by agamemnon. if that makes ANY sense to you i personally cannot abide that path but okay. a bunch of different sources put HIM either as the son of broteas, thystes or niobe. so. take your pick on that front?
DID THAT CLEAR ANYTHING UP FRIEND??? ;;;;;;;;
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its like every week i have a moment where im reminded that ccrime/cwilburs story ended like that. that was it. wilbur didnt actually care about any of the. yeah. like sorry fuck me for wanting something with depth. sorry i dont think depicting a character suibaiting for months then being very viscerally begged not to by the person theyve hurt but also love the most only to puss out and turn all that buildup into a joke is very “soooo og dsmp XD”. in fact pues its quite upsetting. it is actually so jarring to me if im honest!
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why do you draw brain so much I know people draw cogs but people draw you (your toon) and brain together did you make him did you help with the design or do people just ship the two of you
I'm going to answer the second half first! So for clarity, Mac isn't my toon, nor was I involved in making it. I also wasn't involved in making Brian. For future reference, I think I should state that I've never been on the clash team (and I've never worked on anything that's in game or anywhere else that's official. All I've done is my own stuff aka what you see on my page). Both characters are official characters and I've had no influence on them.
As for why I draw him so much, I guess the easiest answer is just I like him! He fits into the two big traits of characters I like and also his design is easy for me to break down into shapes.
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