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Trains in Miraculous Ladybug - Bonus: The Bus

[Part 1: The Metro Train]

[Part 2: The Metro Station]

[Part 3: Startrain]

[Part 4: The Gare du Nord]

It’s been a while since I made these posts, but I figured I might as well update them, and talk about the remaining public transit vehicle in the show that hadn’t been mentioned yet: The bus, shown here almost in its natural habitat.

Just like most other vehicles, the show has just the one, which is always signed as line 33 to Gare d'Austerlitz. The line is strictly fictional, just like the Metro lines, to justify this bus appearing everywhere in the city.

So let's talk about the bus itself. In the show, it gets thrown around, used to escape Zombies, it loses its breaks at the start of Gladiator, it's an animal prison, it receives the least destructive cataclysm of all time (in Animan) and way more. While it has no logos, and a slightly distorted front end presumably to avoid copyright infringement (yes, vehicle design is covered by copyright), it is unmistakably an Agora by… well, that's difficult actually, because this bus type has a complicated history.

First picture by Vincent Babilotte, from Wikimedia Commons, CC-BY-SA; second by Eole99, from Wikimedia Commons, CC-BY-SA

The Renault Agora was introduced in 1996 as Renault's first fully low-floor bus. In 1999, Renault Véhicules Industriels (commercial vehicles) merged their bus business with Iveco, functionally the commercial vehicle division of Fiat if you squint a bit. The new joint venture was known as Irisbus, and from 2002, the Agora became known as Irisbus Agora. Their logo is actually a dolphin ouroboros if you look closely; I have no idea why.

At the same time Renault and Irisbus were also busy buying companies in eastern europe, and reused their names, which means the Agora was also sold under such famous names (famous among bus nerds anyway) as Karosa and Ikarus in Eastern Europe. Those seem to have been co-branding things, those buses still had either the Renault Rhombus or the Irisbus dolphin on the front, and then a Karosa or Ikarus logo somewhere on the side. Some buses were also sold as Škoda (the part that makes trains, not the part that makes cars). We'll get to those later. Finally, in some countries, it was sold under the incredibly vague name "Citybus".

For Paris, we'll only care about the Renault and Irisbus versions, though. These are functionally the same, they just differ in the logo on the front, which the Miraculous bus simply omits entirely. On the inside, the Irisbus version has newer Iveco engines instead of Renault ones to meet newer emission standards, but that's irrelevant from the outside.

The main feature to recognise this bus from a distance is actually in the rear.

In order to provide a flat floor from the front right to the last seating row, Renault has arranged the engine and related mechanical parts in a sort of backpack. An angled drive shaft drives the rear wheels, which are arranged as a portal axle (a design where there is a small gear set near each wheel so the axle in the middl can be higher or, in this case, lower than the wheel hubs). This design as such isn't unique to Renault; it is also found on some Scania OmniCity buses and several ones in the US, starting with the high-floor GMC Rapid Transit Series in the late 70s. What is unique about the Renault design is how it's packaged, with a gentle curve at the top.

This design actually originated with the Renault R312, the Agora's predecessor, which was semi-high-floor (a single step to get into the bus), and continued to be used by the Agora's successor, the Irisbus Citelis, starting 2006. Here's the rear of one in Liège, Belgium:

Pictures by me, do what you want with them

In real life, the curve is not quite as pronounced as it is in the show, and the show has given the bus's rear end a pronounced overbite. Again, I think that's due to copyright, but that's just a guess.

The buses also come with a variety of rear lights; the ones on these Belgian buses don't match any of the Agoras or Citelises I've seen in Paris. Either way, the same backpack, now with LED lights, is also used on the Citelis's successor, the Iveco Urbanway.

(Oh yes, in 2013, Iveco bought the remaining share of Irisbus and renamed the bus models to Iveco only, but it's still the same fundamental bus design somewhere in there. The rest of the commercial vehicle division of Renault was sold to Volvo around the time but keeps its name. Note, that's the Volvo that makes trucks, not the Volvo that builds cars, which is completely independent and owned by Geely. This confusing shit keeps happening and it keeps getting worse.)

For extra confusion, there's also a version of all three buses that doesn't have this backpack, and instead has the engine under a raised floor. I'm going to ignore this one here.

I really love all the little details they implemented on the bus, like the colored signs on the outside that show route information.

I have no idea why Paris uses these, the buses have digital displays as well, but I like them as a concept.

You can also see the frame for the advertising. In this case it's empty; in other episodes it has shown ads for Adrien, Le Perfume, or for the weather girl contest in Stormy Weather.

On the interior, I'll be honest with you, I'm not that knowledgeable about french buses.

I think the overall layout is correct, but I think the seat color is wrong. Buses and trams owned by Paris's transit operator RATP usually have green seats. Maybe that was another copyright issue? I know that sounds weird, but the transit operator of Berlin (BVG) was recently in a legal battle with the designer of their seat patterns over the question whether BVG could sell merchandise with that pattern. RATP does not have that problem because they sell barely any interesting merch, no matter how much I'd like to buy some.

Next: The dashboard.

We get actually fairly good looks at it in some episodes, in particular Animan, and it looks pretty good.

In partikular, it seems to be a fairly close match for the VDV-Standardfahrerarbeitsplatz, seen here in a Citelis.

The buttons for the automatic transmissions are in different places here, but both versions seem to be available. Also note that this one has a display unit built in, but it seems that is also optional. The one in Miraculous Ladybug has a separate bus computer unit mounted next to the dashboard, which is a very common layout as well.

As the name implies, the VDV Standardfahrerarbeitsplatz is a german invention by an association of bus operators, who have standardised how a bus dashboard should look like. While bus manufacturers can offer their own, and some do, the standard design is usually also available. The advantage is that if you have buses from three different manufacturers, then you only need to train drivers once instead of separately for each bus. Since german companies build a lot of buses, their standards have become relevant in other countries as well; such as France. Paris has a lot of german-built buses these days as well.

I know the Agora didn't always use the VDV dashboard; you can find pictures of a weird angular Renault design. I don't know if they switched, or if the german standard design became available as an option, and I don't know which version RATP used. But it's certainly a type of real bus dashboard, and one that was used by the same company later on, so I think it's okay.

In some episodes, notably Glaciator 2 and Qilin, we also see the ticketing.

Marinette apparently has a Navigo pass, a contactless card that you touch to the validator in the bus. That seems perfectly accurate. In Qilin, she has forgotten that card, but luckily her mom has bought single-use tickets.

In Paris, you need to validate such pre-bought tickets first, which she does by touching them to the RFID validator.

That's really not how it works in real life. Instead there's a distinct validator for these bus tickets that stamps them, but this bus model doesn't have that. It's okay enough, I guess.

The main issue with the interior of the bus is something else: It has a step.

That's a bit of a problem. In real life, the Agora does not have a step, the entire floor is flat. That was its main advantage over the older Renault R312, which did have the step. I have no idea why the show chose to include a step in here. They're consistent about it as well; there's a step at the rear door, too.

(By the way, do not think about where the doors go when they're open. It's different every episode. They're supposed to swing inwards, but sometimes they swing out, or they just disappear.)

My final nitpick would probably be the underside.

I have no idea what an Agora is supposed to look like from underneath. But given that the engine is in the back, it's probably not supposed to have exhaust lines running all the way under it. Yes, that's as minor a nitpick as they come, but I couldn't resist once I saw it.

Overall, though, it's a good bus, and very appropriate if you only have the money to model one. The Agora is definitely a staple of Parisian cityscapes, with more than 2500 delivered to RATP, almost a quarter of the entire production run.

If there's one issue with its inclusion in the show, it's the age. The last Agora was built in 2006, and most of them have long been retired. A number of them are already in RATP's vast historic collection, which is sadly not open to the public except on special occasions. I don't get why; there would definitely be interest, just look at the London transport museum. Paris's public transport is every bit as iconic as London's, but they don't market it as such, and they don't have the museums and merchandise to capitalise on it, and I think that's just sad. Please allow me to give you money, RATP!

Anyway, these days, no Agora can go into Paris anymore. Paris has established a low emission zone in 2017, and all Agoras are too old to be allowed in. There are some Agoras still running in the wider Paris region, but not the city centre proper (though that one still has some Citelises, and also some Heuliez versions, which is a whole other can of worms). If we assume that Miraculous Ladybug takes place in some sort of eternal 2014/2015, which is still the best guess for a timeline that I've seen, then the Agora still fits, but it would hardly be the only or most common bus anymore.

The age becomes an issue in one particular episode, in Bakerix, where Bakerix complains that the bus is electric, and that's not how it's supposed to be.

In real life, the Agora was never available as a battery electric bus. Paris is buying lots of battery electric buses these days, including ones that have some lineage to the Agora, but the original only ever had internal combustion engines…

…well, except for sometimes. There were also Trolleybus versions of the Agora. First, there is the Škoda 24Tr (normal version) or 25Tr (articulated version), which was confusingly built in two versions, one based on the Agora and one based on the Citelis. There is also an Irisbus Agora Trolleybus with electrical equipment by Škoda. Is that a different trolley bus based on the Agora built in cooperation between Škoda and Irisbus, or is it the same one, and they just sometimes branded it as a Škoda and sometimes as an Irisbus depending on local contracts? Your guess is as good as mine. Either way, though, those were only sold in Eastern Europe. Paris doesn't have any trolley bus wires, so there were no electric Agoras here, ever.

That aside, though, I think Miraculous Ladybug did overall really well on the bus, given the constraints they had to work with, and I'm looking forward to seeing it in plenty more episodes.

I think that's the end of this series, unless the show starts bringing the tram or the RER into it. I don't think they will, because I don't think they could tell any new stories that way, but I would greatly appreciate it. Anyway, thanks for reading!

[Part 1: The Metro Train]

[Part 2: The Metro Station]

[Part 3: Startrain]

[Part 4: The Gare du Nord]

[danielenigmatool]

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[xipingu]

Bus Simulator 18 [P6] - IVECO Irisbus Citelis 12m (MOD)

[gorky-gorod]

Škoda 24tr Irisbus Citelis 2009 года Небольшая коллекция фоток с короткими учебными машинам 29081 и 29092, ещё одна такая с номером 19563 работает в 1-ом троллейбусном парке города Рига. Все три оборудованы системой АХ, но вместо аккумуляторов используется дизель-генераторая установка. Сейчас они нарасхват, так как учебная гармошка попала в ДТП с фурой, повело ферму. Судьба учебной 16164 остается туманной система с 1947

[hanzliner]

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[aarno1st]

Back to childhood: a Paris bus toy. #toy #toys #vintagestyle #vintagetoys #design #renaultbus #irisbus #saviem #renaultsc10 #ratpvintage #ratp #style #bus #toybus (à Clermont-Ferrand, France) https://www.instagram.com/p/CBLiRYcCbms/?igshid=1m5lzf148bvo5

[chuuootokkai]

Šis atšķirsies no mana standarta ierakstu formāta, zinu, ka noteikti daļa oponēs, bet es uzskatu, ka, lai kaut kas mainītos, ir jārunā. Rīga ir liela, bet maza. Šaura. Un mūsdienu prasībām nepietiek vietas. Tāpēc ir jāsāk domāt. Mēs vēlamies dzīvot kā Eiropā, bet domājam kā Padomju laikos. Stulbi. Zini, kas ir vēl stulbāk? Tas, ka pilsētas vairākumam ir jācieš krietni mazākas iedzīvotāju daļas komforta prasību dēļ. Sabiedriskajam transportam jāstāv sastrēgumos vien tāpēc, ka daļa iedzīvotāju uzskata sevi par labākiem un aizņem Rīgā jau tā trūkstošo ceļu platību ar saviem transportlīdzekļiem. Mēs esam Eiropā, kur katram ir tiesības uz cilvēcīgu pārvietošanos, neatkarīgi no ienākumu līmeņa. Un eiropieši runā, ja redz netaisnību/neizdarību. Tāpēc es saku NĒ centra pārblīvēšanai ar autostāvietām/automašīnām, NĒ ielu paplašināšanai un neskaitāmiem apkārtceļiem, NĒ Rīgas centra pilsētvides bojāšanai. Ja tu piekrīti, paraksties šeit https://manabalss.lv/par-velojoslam-un-sabiedriska-transporta-joslam-brivibas-iela/show . Šis ir tikai sākums, bet ar kaut ko vienmēr jāsāk. JĀ cilvēcīgai satiksmei, drošai un ērtai pilsētai. Un labākais, kas man šodien ienāca prātā, gluži kā sauklis - BRĪVĪBU TROLEJBUSIEM! #11trolejbuss #Purvciems #Rīga #Latvija #2017 #Trolejbuss #trolleybus #Škoda #24Tr #irisbus #RīgasSatiksme #traffic #busspotting #publictransport #picoftheday #instadaily #architecture #urban #plattenbau #104 #ig_riga #ig_latvia (at Ķirsons Māja)

[mhdpublictransport]

Irisbus Crossway LE 12M 8820 and SOR NBG 12 8885 on line 306 riding to Zličín, Sobín, Prague, Czechia, 1.4.2021

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[edenstechgarden]

[wolfman-al]

Okay, this will probably be only interesting for people that are public transport nerds like me. A short summary of the public transit in Frankfurt am Main in early 2021:

Bus, Metrobus, Expressbus (Purple lines on map)

Frankfurt has a tightknit system of buslines: Regular citybus lines (not shown on the map), Metrobus lines (M-Lines), that run for 24 h, 7 days at week in a frequency of every 10 min on the day, every 15 min on Sundays and every 30 min. in the night. Express-Bus lines (X-Lines) are fast buslines that stop only at selected bus stops and connect to the airport. Nightbus lines (N-Lines, not shown on map) are bus lines that run at night and replace bus and rail lines without 24 h service.

Projects: There are currently no major projects, modernisations of busstops and the vehicles is ongoing thou. There are plans for building a new central bus depot and repair garage in eastern Frankfurt, replacing the old central depot at Rebstock Park, but that is still in preparation. The current stock are busses (Solo and articulated) by Solaris, MAN, Mercedes-Benz and a few busses by Volvo, Irisbus and VanHool (the VanHool Busses are old and due to replacement). There are more EV-busses by Solaris and EBUSCO replacing diesel busses coming in. A few years ago, the city tested the use of doubledecker busses for some of the high frequented lines, they borrowed doubledecker busses from Berlin for that purpose (Berlin, like London, successfully operates doubledeckers for more than a century), and while the busses where well recieved and the test could be considerd a success, the city decidet against aquireing double deckes, since the depot at Rebstock had not the necessary facilities to operate them. But maybe that idea will resurface at some point for the Metrobus and Expressbus lines and the new depot can be planned accordingly.

Tram (Straßenbahn, orange/yellow lines on map)

Frankfurt has a large and old tramway system 10 lines (8 main lines and 2 supportlines) and 1 tourist/heritage line (Ebbelwoi Express). It started as a horse drawn tram in 1872 and was electrified in 1884, making it the second oldest electric tram in the world. It has been in constant operation since it was first opend, only stopping operation for a few weeks at the end of WW2. The next work had it largest size prior to WW2, with over 40 (!) lines, but shrank in the decades after the war and was almost completely shot down in the 1980s (plans from the 1960s were originally to replace the tramway step by step with the U-Bahn). The Frankfurt tramway only operates within the city limits of Franfurt, with two lines, 15 and 16, terminate at the city limit to the city of Offenbach (pop. 130,000) and one line, 17, terminates at the city limit of the town of Neu Isenburg (pop. 38,000). The tram operates mainly two types of trams, the R series that was introduced in the early 1990s, and that is starting to show its age, and the S series, which was introduced in the early 2000s. Also in operation are P series trams from the 1970s as support vehicles in peak times. They will finally be retired (along with some of the R series stock) when the new T series enters service later this year. The Ebbelwoi Express operates historic K series trams from the early 1950s. There are several project for the tram. Currently under construction is a modernisation of the Gutleut tram depot, in preparation for the new T series. Several new lines are planned: line 13 will operate from Industriehof, where it connects with the U-Bahn via Westbahnhof (west station), Messe (trade fair), Hauptbahnhof (central station), central bus station to Gutleut depot. There are plans for a tram line from Sachsenhausen Hainerweg in the south of the city to the railway station of the town of Bad Vilbel (pop. 34,000) north-east of Frankfurt, where it would connect with S-Bahn line S6, this tram line will replace the highly frequented city bus line 30. A circle tram line is planned unsing mostly existing tracks. And extensions of existing lines. There are plans to extend line 17 through the town of Neu Isenburg to the towns of Dreieich (pop. 42,000) and Langen (pop. 38,000) and to extend line 16 into the city center of Offenbach, possibly going through the city, northwards over the river Main, where it would connect with tramline 11 in Frankfurt-Fechenheim. Other plans include an extension of tram line 11 to Frankfurt-Höchst railway station (connection to S-Bahn) and a new route throgh the city center via Haptwache (Frankfurts central U- and S-Bahn hub) to take pressure of the existing main tram route through the city center.

Metro (U-Bahn, blue lines on map)

Frankfurts U-Bahn is more of a light rail than a classic metro. 9 lines are currently in operation on four main routes: Route A(Lines U1, U2, U3, U8 and U9 is the oldest route, it was first opend in 1968 and connects south station via the city center to the northern city districts and suburbs. It also connects to the towns of Oberursel (pop. ) and Bad Homburg (pop.). Route B (lines U4 and U5) connects the central station, eastwards through the city center with districts on the north east of the city. Route C (lines U6, U7 and U4) is an east-west route, connection city disticts in the west via the city center woth city districts in the east. Route D (lines U1, U4, U8 and U9) is unfinished, it is currently split in two. D1 connects the central station with Bockenheiner Warte via the trade fair. D2 connects Frankfurt Ginnheim via Nordwestzentrum to Riedberg in the north of the city. It was originally planned as the second north-south route paralel to route A. Many overground sections of the U-Bahn are upgraded former tram routes, it shows in some sections like the streetrunning section of line U5 on the Eckenheimer Landstraße in Frankfurt-Nordend. There are quite a few projects. On line U5 is the extension of the line westwards is under construction, it will lead from the current terminus at the central station into the Europaviertel and will end at Rebstock. At the other end of line U5 is planned to extend north to the Railwaystation Frankfurter Berg where it will connect the the S-Bahn. Another big project is the so called Ginnheimer curve, which will be closing the gap in route D between Bockenheimer Warte and Ginnheim. There are somediscussions about the exact route, how it will be connected to university campus Westend and how the tunnel will pass under Grüneburg Park, which has raised some concerns with conservationists. U2 is Planned to be extendet from its current terminus in Bad Homburg-Gonzenheim to Bad Homburg Railway station, where it would connect to the S-Bahn. Further projects, that arecurrently unspecified, are a new trainyard in northern Frankfurt, which will replace the small Heddernheim yard, an extension of line U7 eastward through Bergen Enkheim, and on the other End of the line north westwards to a new P+R facillity on the autobahn A5 to the town of Steinbach (pop. 10,000) and a new residental district that is planned within Frankfurts city limits.On line U4 a short tunnel from the station Seckbacher Langstraße to the residental area Seckbach Atzelberg is in discussion. On the A route an extension south from the current terminus at the south station to to Sachsenhäuser Warte is in discussion as well asextending the tunnel further north along the Eschersheimer Landstraße (the tunnel currently ends at Dornbusch and the route uns north on the median of the road. The rolling stock are type U-4, type U-5-25 and type U-5-50 cars, it is planned to buy some middle cars for the U-5 stock to extend the trains in length.

Suburban Rapid Transit (S-Bahn, green lines on map)

The S-Bahn is a heavy rail rapid transit system that is operated by Deutsche Bahn, Germanys national railway, and connects Frankfurt to other towns and cities in the larger Frankfurt-Rhein-Main metro area. The S-Bahn has two city tunnels through the city centers of Frankfurt and Offenbach (there is als a small tunnel with an underground station in the town of Schwalbach (pop. 15,000) on line S3), with about 10 underground railway stations. The S-Bahn connect Frankfurt directly to the other cities in the region like Offenbach, Wiebaden (Hessens state capital, pop. 278,000), Mainz (State capital of Rhineland Palatinate, pop. 218,000), Darmstadt (pop. 160,000) and Hanau (pop. 96,000). There are 9 lines in total. The S-Bahn is using EMUs type DB 423, DB 430 and DB 425. The S-Bahn has several large projects. The northmain S-Bahn to Hanau willbe a second connection to Hanau via Frankfurt east station and the town of Maintal (pop. 39,000) directly east of Frankfurt which oddly hasn´t an S-Bahn connection yet. The extension of the Main-Weser rail line from 2 to 4 tracks which will lead to the modernisation of several S-bahn stations and the addition of a new station in Frankfurt-Ginnheim. Line S5 will be extendet from Friedrichsdorf via Grävenwiesbach to Usingen in the northern Taunus mountains. In the south line S2 will be extendet from Dietzenbach to Darmstadt via Dieburg. At the new terminal 3 a second S-Bahn station is planned

Other Public Transit

There are busses from neighbouring cities and counties and other commuter rail lines by Deutsche Bahn and HSB (Hesse State Railways). The Airport has two people mover lines, a third one is under construction.There are plans for the Regional Tangete West and Regional Tangente Ost, which will form a lightrail ring around Frankfurt. These ring lines will connect most S- and U-Bahn lines that go out of the city and will also connect to the airport. Another fun project that is planned is a cable tramway from the terminus of U3 at Hohemark to the sumit of the Feldberg, the highest mountain of the Taunus mountains. The network map is curtesy of the VGF, Frankfurts public transit cooperation.

[gorky-gorod]

Škoda 24tr Irisbus Citelis 2009 года Небольшая коллекция фоток с короткими учебными машинам 29081 и 29092, ещё одна такая с номером 19563 работает в 1-ом троллейбусном парке города Рига. Все три оборудованы системой АХ, но вместо аккумуляторов используется дизель-генераторая установка. Сейчас они нарасхват, так как учебная гармошка попала в ДТП с фурой, повело ферму. Судьба учебной 16164 остается туманной система с 1947

[cestovatelix]

On Friday, November 22, 2019 a farewell event took place in Prague with buses complying with the EURO 2 emission standard. The event was attended by Karosa B941E 6349 cars and 2 Irisbus Citybus 12M 3283, 3302 cars (and one museum exhibit of the same type). and 185, and after the public rides there were two photos. These types are my favorite

[only-cats-photos]

Irisbus Crossway – CTM (Compagnie de transports du Morbihan) (CAT, Compagnie Armoricaine De Transports) (Transdev) / CTRL (Compagnie de Transport de la Région Lorientaise) https://ift.tt/2RkSLoS - Follow me https://ift.tt/Roy1qi

[grevebus]

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