#it's not her fault 6th season caroline was so ???

[averseunhinged]

here is another thing that was supposed to be a short and fun exercise in writing scenes with a lot of action, but has instead turned into a four part thing with the last part being the only part i've actually finished. AS USUAL. i am incapable of writing a short one shot.

this is sort of what i wanted the augustine storyline to be. you know. if there'd been an actual budget for the show and candice king had any interest whatsoever in being a stunt-heavy action star. i mostly just wanted to write caroline going undercover as a las vegas exotic dancer, giving klaus a lap dance, and then kicking augustine ass in heels. like tvdu + secret diary of a call girl + alias.

this bit is from the first part, which involves writing five characters in the room and two on video, and that ended up being way harder than i expected.

"There was a disturbance in the Quarter last night," Marcel began, accepting a tumbler of bourbon from Elijah with a nod of thanks, and settling back further into his seat.

Josh snorted.

"Something to add, Josh?"

"That's putting it mildly. People are already talking."

"Are people?" Klaus asked flatly.

"The nightwalkers," Marcel admitted. "There've been rumors coming through the underground, mostly down from New York's sub rosa. It all sounded like a fairy tale. Or an exaggeration, at least."

"Or," Josh cut in quietly, "like a society of people who need to believe there are heroes willing to help them."

He flipped through the file and pulled out a stack of neatly organized files. Davina's animosity toward the Originals was unrelenting, but she was willing enough to have collating parties in the middle of the night, as long as he brought top shelf vodka and some of Cami's good hand-muddled mixers. Josh passed out the files and then brought the video stills up on screen.

There were two figures standing close, heads tilted toward one another. It wasn't a particularly clear shot of the pair, but based on build, they were likely a male and a female, though close to the same height. The woman was slim, but athletic. The man was broad and barrel­-chested. Both wore similar all-black outfits: combat boots for the man and lighter boots with a low heel for the woman. Slim black jeans and motorcycle jackets with raised hoods for both. Amongst the colorful tourist trade in the Quarter, they stood out like ill omens.

“Well, who have we here?” Klaus drawled, draping himself over an armchair with his usual excessive display of hot people privilege. Josh would just look awkward and desperate if he moved like that.

Not that Josh didn’t think he was hot. His self-esteem was fine in that department, but it was more of a boy-next-door adorable than ancient evil smoldering. He could pick up a human guy no problem, but Klaus’s human conquests were either idiots or had an unfortunate, obvious danger kink. The ones with a slightly better life expectancy didn’t want anything to do with him. Josh once watched a blonde sorority girl slumming it at the wrong bar spend twenty uncomfortable minutes trying to extricate herself from a flirty conversation, Klaus absorbing her annoyance like that was what powered him.

Josh would not be surprised.

“No-one knows. They just show up and do good deeds. If your definition of a good deed involves unspeakable violence, I mean."

"Usually does with vampires." Marcel grinned. "There was a group of like-minded ones. Old guys, too. They set up in a warehouse in the Bronx and none of the sub rosa had the power to oust them." He paused, looking down and swirling his bourbon around the glass, his voice tight when he began again. "Sick fucks were taking little girls, not one of them over twelve. The New York vamps wouldn't do a damn thing about it."

Klaus laughed derisively through his nose. "Of course they wouldn’t."

"They are a society with rules, Niklaus," Elijah began before he was rudely interrupted.

"They're worse than the ton, doing nothing and accomplishing less. They're immortal beings and they've shackled themselves."

"It didn't matter either way in the end," Josh took up. "The whole warehouse went up in flames. Witnesses claimed they saw a man and woman in black leading the kids out, but they couldn't remember anything else about them. Not even hair color."

"Witchwork," Klaus spat out, disgusted. The witch problems of the past few years had left him with little patience for them or those who allied with them.

"Probably," Josh admitted with reluctance. "The girls were definitely compelled. Except one was witch-blooded, but in foster care. No known coven of origin. No-one knew until they realized she was the only one who remembered anything."

The men were all silent for a moment.

"I am loath to ask what she remembered," Elijah finally said, stoicism weighed down by reluctance.

"Things no eight-year-old should." Marcel replied, short and hard. "She said the woman was the Angel of Death and she'd come to help them. That she was beautiful and terrible and she made the bad men scream. The sub rosa started calling her Angel after that."

“There’s something else, too. A YouTuber on vacation was filming the street with a pretty high quality camera when the fight broke out. There’s something about the way the man moves. The way he holds himself, maybe? I don’t know. Just…familiar.” Josh shook his head. “Sorry. Not that helpful.”

Josh selected and started a clip from the video. The focal point was the man. His movements were smooth, but the muscles were tight and bulging, hands clenched at his sides until his arm snapped out, grabbed an attacking human by the neck, and spiked them into a café table. It was almost phlegmatic, if you didn’t mind watching someone get decapitated with wrought iron detailing.

“No, Mr. Rosza,” Elijah murmured. “You are correct. He’s restraining himself. Forcing himself to take far more care than he could. He’s more powerful than he’s showing, has greater strength than he is using. Perhaps an attempt to conceal his age.”

Marcel rolled his drink between his hands. “That hybrid who came after you…”

“Tyler Lockwood,” Elijah supplied.

“No, not Tyler. He’s happily wasting his time in the wilderness with a pack in Oregon, like a pig in shit. I’d know if he was inclined to anything more complex than subsistence farming and building tiny homes,” Klaus sneered.

[kiss-my-freckle]

Something that angers me as a survivor, is how Stefan sympathizers use the topic of abuse to viciously attack Delena fans for liking Delena or Damon, calling him a predator or an abuser when their fave is one too. I will never like Stefan as a character and part of it is because of how horrid their fandom is. They are the worst fandom I've come across. Also even though I love Tyler is I've noticed people love him as a charcater because it's a vampire show the standards are lower but on shows with similar characters who've done the same but aren't vampire shows (like GG) they call out the charcaters and hate them and judge people for shipping them with anyone. With this show they hold Damon to real life standards to make him look worse than their fave and hold Katherine to real life standards to coddle Stefan exclusively even though she preyed on Damon too and whatever Stefan did to Elena. Stefan hid his vampirism like Katherine and Elena already fell in love with him just like Katherine withholding her vampirism until after Stefan fell in love with her. Elena was 17 like Stefan was and Stefan acts smug and like he's better than Katherine when he didn't learn from the past. He tells Katherine he didn't have a choice because she backed him in a corner after he found out about she was a vampire but Elena was 17 and depressed and not over her parents' death and he backed her in a corner when she tried to run away from him just like Stefan tried to get away from Katherine. Stefan wanting to get away from Katherine is portrayed as justified but Elena's comfort level and her wanting to get away is disregarded. Also Elena's age meant that she couldn't consent aka she didn't have a choice either. Stefan telling Elena she couldn't confide in Bonnie while he could confide in Lexi even though he knew Bonnie was a Bennett witch, and ruining her relationship with her dad, aunt, and Jeremy disgusts me. Also Lexi disgusts me because she calls Katherine a bitch for mistreating Stefan and romanticizes Stefan's abuse of Elena by saying OMG you're in love with her. Damon gets shit on for how he treated Lexi in the 70s even though he regretted it and his humanity was off and him and Lexi were both adults.

All of their vampires are abusive, and being a vampire is the only real excuse they have. It's their basic nature. Acting human won't ever change that. That's why Rebekah told Elena she knows exactly who Stefan is. He's a vampire, a predator. The only way to stop a vampire from acting like a vampire is to kill it or cure it. That's why it's important to consider what it truly means for Stefan forcing Damon to become a vampire. Because Elijah is wrong. His comment that Esther turned them into vampires but didn't make them monsters is ignorant to their reality. Vampires are monsters. "Vampire" is simply the specific monster they are. That's like saying tigers aren't wildcats.

Stefan and Lexi both knew what they were getting her into when he sent her to New York to help Damon flip his humanity switch. I fault them more than I fault Damon. Every vampire shows the reality of what they're like without their humanity. They have no emotions, so they don't care. Damon wasn't supposed to care about Lexi, that's why he left her on the roof to burn. It's no different than Stefan threatening Elena on the bridge.

While fans like to ignore the reality, Stefan's lies are no different than Damon's compulsions. This is shown even in the first five episodes as they have Stefan written with Elena and Damon written with Caroline. When I tell fans that Stefan and Damon are written as opposites, I mean it in every sense. That's why Damon's compulsions on Elena hide the good in him, while Stefan's lies to her hide the bad in him. Like when Jeremy cuts Stefan's hand with a bottle. Stefan essentially compels Elena to forget what she saw because the glass didn't cut his hand. They actually put it in dialogue in the 6th season when Damon came back from the prison world.  "Oh, come on, Elena. You've compelled enough people to know it's just a way of covering the truth. And no matter how badly you want it done, it doesn't make it any less of a lie," Stefan compelled Elena into a relationship just as sure as Damon compelled Caroline into one. He did this by lying and keeping secrets. By covering up their truth.

[isagrimorie]

if the originals had a 6th season with everyone making it out alive, how do you think they would handle tribrid hope (the mikaelsons, the faction leaders, and the nola supernatural community as a whole)?

also let’s just assume hope is 17 or 18 here bc, ya know, being immortally 15/16 would suck…

I think it would be more of an Originals/Legacies hybrid using the same time jump as in Legacies but fast forward to seasons 3 and 4 so Hope would be the same age as canon when she becomes a fully activated tribrid-- 19/20.

TBH, I feel the real reason why Hope was only an astral projection was that none of the factions wanted a fully activated Tribrid with existential crisis anywhere near New Orleans. The last time, canonically, Hope was in emotional crisis while in New Orleans, she almost destroyed the city, a vampire civil war led by literal nazi vamps broke out and a lot of witches died.

I imagine prior to 4x16 Vincent put his foot down when Rebekah and Marcel told Vincent they wanted to a) hold a wake for Klaus (and Elijah-- Hope wasn't told this part because they know Hope still has a dim view of him) and b) Hope would be attending.

The compromise was astral projection.

(Vincent loves Hope but the last time he was swayed by the 'she's only a teen' argument all the above happened-- it's not mostly Hope's fault, but she was the catalyst for it).

I would imagine similar things happened in the Everyone Lived timeline except Hayley, Elijah, Klaus, and Josh didn't die. Except with the Mikaelson family around Malivore would've been dealt with faster. Serratura lock at the bottom of the ocean, with the added bonus of Hope's blood + Klaus's blood.

I imagine, Hayley encourages Hope to be more active in the Crescent Pack, and not just for leadership reasons but because Hayley actually found peace when she connected with the pack. I do think Elijah and Hope will still clash but more because of Elijah's expectations of her than anything else.

I would imagine growing up with Hayley, Hope had more of a grounded childhood but with Elijah around, he'd be more into the trappings of society and responsibilities of a Mikaelson heir. Plus the added pressure of being called 'the family's hope'. I also think Elijah would insist Hope join faction meetings once she hit 17 years old.

Hayley will step in when Elijah goes overboard and reminds him about his Strix and how that turned out.

For once in his 1,000 years, Klaus isn't a source of tension and Hope actually prefers him to Elijah. He is the fun dad. They paint together and go on museum tours and Hayley has to remind Klaus constantly not to spoil Hope.

Also since her family is still around, Hope becomes less anti-social and gets friends, and basically, it is still the super squad but this time she invites a few close friends to NOLA for vacation.

Caroline and the Saltzman twins have a standing invitation to go to NOLA anytime because of how they helped with the hollow. Alaric is tolerated.

Once Hope becomes a fully activated tribrid tho-- things get a lot tenser because the factions know all the prophecies surrounding Hope and New Orleans.

Hope isn't happy they're back to this. Eventually, things will calm down when Hayley, Vincent, and Marcel present a united front. Klaus had to be talked down from going his usual route of terrorizing people into obedience.

Hope: "Seriously, dad? That will only make people angrier and afraid of me!"

The problem now comes in the form of the Triad industries -- which should have been the Legacies' Main big bad all along instead of Malivore.