#jo eunseob

[kitkatsudon]

What are your thoughts on their characters of the alternate universe also being neurodivergent?

Eg, Gon and Jihun both having autism. Or Yeong and Eunseob also both being neurodivergent.

First of all, what a great question! I’m very pleased you’ve got me talking about this in a public place, lol.

I think the best way to start is to think about the question in a general sense, rather than focusing on Eunseob and Jihun in particular. After all, the multiverse is vast, but the question here is… exactly how vast? It really depends on how you conceptualise it. In the TKEM canon, we’re shown different universes that contain variants of the characters we’re familiar with, and it’s implied that everyone exists with the same DNA in every universe, implying strict continuity within the universes… except that’s not quite right, is it? If that were the case, one would expect people to live and die at the same time in every universe, but we have proof that isn’t the case, even without Lee Lim’s meddling. Take Song Jeonghye, for example: she’s alive and kicking in the Republic, but in the Kingdom Queen Song died when Gon was very small (I think three years old in Korean age?), which was before Lee Lim started drastically altering the continuity between the universes. If people can die at different times in different universes, what happens if someone in one universe died as a baby, but in another universe in the infinite multiverse they went on to have children? These children wouldn’t exist in the first universe where they were dead, causing a big inconsistency between the universes.

That’s why I prefer to think of the multiverse using the mindset that, in the infinite multiverse, there’s a universe where every possible outcome of the universe has happened. This means that there are an infinite amount of universes where, for example, Lee Gon exists as he does in canon, where he exists as he does in our headcanons, and also an infinite amount of universes where he was never born at all. The implication of this is that, if you can think of something, it will exist somewhere in the infinite multiverse. (This also means that every fanfiction is canon, and hypothetically the canon characters could visit the universe of any fanfiction using the Manpasikjeok - I love having the concept of the multiverse in the show’s canon because it means that somewhere, somehow, you’re always right >:D)

With this in mind, my official, blanket answer for the question of whether or not Gonjo variants would be neurodivergent is both yes and no. There would be an infinite number of universes where they are, and an infinite number of universes where they aren’t.

However, you also asked me about these specific cases, so let’s talk about them!

Jihun… is a difficult one to call. What I can say at least is that if he is neurodivergent, he would probably need to be high masking to be able to reach a high position in the military. From his uniform, you can tell that he’s a pretty high ranking officer (I don’t have wifi right now and the signal isn’t good enough for video so I can’t check his exact rank at the moment), which means it would probably be difficult for him to serve if the military thought that potential neurodivergence would affect his ability to do his job. With that being said, it’s certainly not impossible. In my opinion, we haven’t really seen enough of Jihun to make an educated call either way, but from the way he was purposefully paralleled with Gon in the first episode, it’s not out of the question.

As for Eunseob, this is perhaps more likely. We’ve spoken about Gon and Yeong having an ND-to-ND connection, but I think it’s telling that when Gon first arrived in the Republic, Eunseob was the only one to really humour Gon and try and spend any time with him. I think, however, that a big point is how Yeong and Eunseob are presented as such polar opposites, with such extreme personalities. Neurodivergent traits are often characterised by extremes, and the way they’re characterised as extreme opposites in the show really lends itself to a neurodivergent reading for both of them. As for his exact diagnosis, I agree with you in our messages that he’s more likely to be ADHD, but admittedly I have’t really thought about this well enough to create a well thought-out argument as to why - it’s just kind of based on intuition and vibes, more than anything else. Something I want to note is that in @deesarrachi ‘s Polycule Cinematic Multiverse, Yeong has ADHD, and although last time I checked, the full fic isn’t ready yet, I can’t help but wonder if, in this universe, both Yeong and Eunseob have ADHD (and if you see this and would like to, deesarrachi you are more than welcome to expand on this in the comments or in a reblog)

Anyway, I think those are all my thoughts on the subject? Thank you once again for the question, you kept me very entertained while I’ve been sat on the train for a couple of hours :D

[leerang]

“Don’t you miss him?”

[yoymipizzaforevah]

“I saw myself just now... my doppelgänger had short hair and your doppelgänger was in a hospital gown”

This happened twice already, so I have to ask. ¿Who’s Na-Ri?

How I found my soulmate, Part I. Today we present “how we started to realized your not my other half”

[112siri]

WOODOHWAN 

[estelle-sim]

The King: Eternal Monarch (SBS, 2020)

Teaser

Woo Do-hwan as Jo Young / Jo Eun-seob

[baek1nho]

jo yeong/eunseob x myung seungah/nari

[g1g1l]

Shoutout to bulletproof vests made in Kingdom of Corea for saving Jo Yeong and Jo Eunseob’s lives repeatedly!!!

[gongchanida]

jo eunseob icons ‹3

․⠀๋ like or reblog! ⌗⠀dongwookle on twitter !

[doyouknowthemuffinmaam]

The King Eternal Monarch....

I just watched the ep13 preview and...

If you kill our precious boy Jo EunSeob...we riot.

[kpopfanfictrash]

omg LMAO thank you so much for all your drama recs!! I’m just going to answer them all on this post. THANK YOU!

@mono-kookie​ weightlifting fairy is SO good!!! I’m right there with you, it’s one of my fave kdramas TT

I haven’t ever seen this one, anon! Totally understand not getting into a show after a few episodes, though. Been there. LOL

@all-that-remained LOL this sounds fun, though! I love watching TV shows with my mom haha but ooo THANK YOU FOR THE RECS! I adore joohyuk, so this is gold TT and lmao YES! EUNSEOB AND UNBREAKABLE SWORD are literally the best part of the King & no one can tell me otherwise.

@ggukcangetit​ ahhh strong girl bong soon was so fun!! I’ll be honest, I don’t think it was my favorite favorite, but I really enjoyed it & you’re right, the two leads are two of my favorite actors so it was win-win

thank you for the recs, anon!!!

ahhh I saw this recommended on netflix!! & I love jo jungsuk, so it’s perfect. Definitely will keep in mind!!

 I haven’t watched this one!! But this is one of my best friend’s favorite kdramas too, so I keep telling myself I need to watch it but it hasn’t happened yet LOL

The King was............... I’ll be real, I think the writer got in over her head LOL it would take me and my friends 4-5 hours to watch the two episodes each week just because we’d have to pause every so often to be like what the fuck is going on *searches reddit threads.* LOL in the end it made sense, I guess? But when the 15 episodes leading up to that were high-key confusing, idk if that’s worth it haha. BUT! The last time I saw Kim Go-eun in something was Goblin, so it was really nice to see her in a feisty, grown-up role LOL she kicked ass. AND IF WOO DOHWAN DOESN’T GET A LEADING MAN ROLE OUT OF THIS, I WILL YELL!!! He was so fucking good alsdkjflaskj 

[kitkatsudon]

meanwhile, in another universe…

[yoymipizzaforevah]

“Why is he... it feels like he is.”

“Na-Ri, it seems like you really missed me.”

[yoymipizzaforevah]

This two give me some twins vibes.

[kitkatsudon]

CALLING ALL TKEM FIC WRITERS:

because i am not normal about this show, i was doing some digging and i discovered something too important not to share.

yeong’s (and eunseob’s, but for our purposes we’re focusing on yeong) family name in hanja is 曺, according to the tkem website.

and according to google, the only jo clan to use that hanja is the changnyeong jo clan.

the changnyeong jo clan have this origin story, where the very first one marries into the silla royal family, the house of kim. and this original changnyeong jo was born 56 years before the manpasikjeok’s origin. found by a king of silla. of the kim clan.

yeong, as a descendant, according to his family’s origin myth (which we’re going to take as fact in the tkem universe because the manpasikjeok myth is true too), would have the blood of the kim clan that ruled silla in his veins too. the first family to lay claim to the manpasikjeok.

do with this information what you will.

[g1g1l]

Lee Gon: I like the view!

Jo Yeong: You do?

Jo Eunseob: *looking at Lee Gon mesmerized* You are my best view!

Lee Gon: Bro