#joe flanigan scenes

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THOUGHT CRIMES / Joe Flanigan scenes

[orion-kenobi]

I just watched Miller’s Crossing and in the scene where Rodney’s telling John he’ll let the wraith feed on him to save Jeannie John is not down with that and says it’s because Rodney’s an important member of his team instead of just telling Rodney he cares about him 😭 This is not the only time he’s done that! He has a habit of trying so hard to seem clinical and weirdly detached from people whilst clearly upset over the idea of losing them at the same time. John Sheppard is truly so fascinating to me.

[my-daily-dose-of-connor]

My daily dose of Connor 2023 edition (253)

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Behind the scenes → Stargate: Atlantis - Season 1 Episode 13 "Hot Zone", Joe Flanigan, Rachel Luttrell

Rachel Luttrell and Joe Flanigan behind the scenes

[lonely-business]

I am going to ramble about a topic near and dear to my heart Stargate Atlantis and how the production and writers did the cast so dirty over the years of production.

Social media and little behind the scene tidbits are very common now to increase engagement. However, SGA ran from 2004-2009. Social media engagement was not the norm and the biggest platform at the time was Facebook. This did not stop some writers and producers from the show shoving cameras in the faces of the cast members during down times making them visibly uncomfortable. It got to the point the Joe Flanigan (John Sheppard, ostensibly the lead) to tell the camera persons to stop it and that they were making everyone uncomfortable.

Next! Rachel Luttrell who played Teyla Emmagan (and is one of the most beautiful women in the world) was nearly booted from the show when she became pregnant. Part of Teyla's character was that she was a kick-ass warrior and a diplomat to the Atlantis expedition representing her people and she had spider-sense powers to feel the bad guys (the wraith). Luckily she stayed on the show, but since the writers room was EXCLUSIVELY MEN and did not know how to write a dynamic woman getting pregnant literally put her career in danger because the writers didn't know how to "write a pregnant woman."

Now, for Jason Momoa aka Ronon (yes this was one of his early gigs) they wanted him to remain completely static as a character. He was slightly above a cave man at times with his speech patterns (a good look for a POC) and when they finally let him get lines he was always intimidating or scary (again cool a look for a POC.) Momoa at one point cut his dreads off and he thought that that would be a good character moment for Ronon too, since he was pretty stagnant. Instead they put him in the most rotted obvious wig, because the producers couldn't stand Ronon changing even a little.

[sga-owns-my-soul]

🤩🥰🥺😌 for real life. do with that what you will i just want snippets of your actor switch au bc its so amazing

none of these really describe anything i've written so far so i'm just gonna pick my two fav scenes so far bc i know these are just your fav/most used emojis 😂😂

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John squinted against the bright sun, staring out at the familiar coastline, a sense of dread flooding him.

He knew he had just been bickering with Rodney on P37-659, and yet here he was, clear as day, standing on a beach in his tac vest and full gear. He was still holding his P90.

"Okay, step one, get off the public beach with your semi-automatic assault rifle," John muttered to himself, thankful that it was early enough that no one else was nearby. There was a small pile of clothes near him and only one car, so John hoped for the best and grabbed the pants, looking for a wallet. He found a drivers license inside, and his stomach twisted.

Joe Flanigan, the card read, right beside a picture of his face. "Well, this can't be good."

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Teyla looked around the room she was in, recognizing enough to realize she was on Earth, but with no clue where exactly she was; or how she came to be there; or, most importantly, where her team was and how to get home.

She took a moment to look around, setting down the book in her hand. She approached the fire place, taking a picture of the ledge and examining it. It was a beautiful family, but the worrying part was that it wasn't her family— despite the fact that she was front and centre in the photo.

A ringing in another room startled her, and she followed it into what must have been the kitchen. She recognized the device as a phone, and lifted it to her ear.

"Hello?"

"Teyla, is that you?"

"Rodney," she asked in relief, half the stress being lifted just from the sound of her teammates voice. "I do not know what happened or where I am."

"I know, I'm working on that. Do you have a vague sense of where you are? Inside or outside?"

"I am in a house, and there are pictures of a woman who looks like me but is not me."

"Okay, okay so she was at home."

"Who was?"

"Rachel Luttrel, in this universe she's— well, she's you," Rodney explained.

"But she is not me," Teyla argued. "I am not of Earth; the pictures of her family, they are not my family. They are not Athosian."

"Yes, because here, in this world, you are not Athosian because you, technically, aren't real. None of us are."

Teyla glared at nothing. "I am very real."

"Well, yes, obviously. All of us are real, but in this universe, we seem to be the actors of our tv selves."

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Stargate: Atlantis - Season 5 Episode 6 "The Shrine", behind the scenes

Behind the scenes of “The Shrine” (5.06)

[dr-futbol-blog]

Epiphany, Pt. 1

Following the dramatic events of the mid-season finale we arrive at Epiphany (S02E12), which is not so much the calm after a storm as it is a more character-driven story offering us a chance to learn something about John Sheppard. What makes the story especially important for Sheppard's character is the fact that it was penned by series creator Brad Wright and Joe Flanigan together, making it so much more pertinent for his characterization. It is also the episode where we are heavily implied (although not outright confirmed) that Sheppard has sex with a woman, has sex for the first time on the show that we know of,* and if there is something that seems to establish his preference for men more than seeing him kiss a woman, it is the aftermath of him having had sex with one because goddamn. The same thing takes place here as did in Conversion (S02E08): an episode in which Sheppard kisses a woman is used to confirm the subtext. Also, we learn things about his backstory here that are not textualized until Outcast (S04E15).

In the episode Sheppard and McKay are once again separated from one another and this time, with Sheppard thinking that the separation is final, he arrives at an epiphany, the experience of a sudden and striking realization, but more on that later. We once again join the team in medias res on a mission, on some unnamed planet, wading their way through what seems like demanding terrain comprising of mountains and thick woods. McKay seems to be leading the way with his scanner, the others following him in single file with Sheppard very close at his heel. And like always, the team is not exactly being stealthy, what with their constant chattering.

McKay: Why do you have to park so far away? Sheppard: This ridge was a little further away than it looked. You can't just land a jumper anywhere, Rodney. McKay: Ah, it doesn't matter now, I think we're almost there. Teyla: Rodney, do you even know what it is we are looking for?

While technically The Hive (S02E11) is the preceding episode, the previous story actually started with Lost Boys (S02E10) where we found the team similarly making their way through a forest, and we can immediately see some contrasts between the scenes. There, Sheppard was leading the way and McKay was complaining about having been forcibly dragged to join them on the mission, and his grumbling was starting to grind Sheppard's gear because he both wanted and needed McKay to do it with him, and by implying that he did not want to be there McKay was triggering Sheppard's fear of abandonment. He enjoys McKay's company, likes listening to him and talking with him, but moreover exploring the galaxy is something that he very much wants to do with McKay, and for what ever reason the two of them were then at cross-purposes.

Now, while McKay is complaining about having to walk the extra mile, it is because he is not communicating his displeasure at being there but is actually rather excitedly leading the way, Sheppard is not at all in a foul mood. He has no notes on listening to McKay complain being a waste of his time, but is rather trying to offer up excuses for why they had to park so far almost as an apology to the other man, which just confirms that his commentary in the previous episode had nothing to do with McKay's grumbling as such. And McKay is similarly non-combative here, acknowledging Sheppard's excuse and letting the matter lie. In fact, even his initial question, while spoken in exasperation, speaks of intimacy and familiarity between them, the fond kind of "Why do you always..." that betrays an established relationship. In comparison to their last trek through the woods, both are being commendably conciliatory (although not making any less noise about it).

McKay: Yeah, well, whatever it is, it's around here somewhere. Dex: What's around here? McKay: Whatever it was that was causing the energy spike we detected from the puddlejumper. Sheppard: Do you have any idea what that looks like? McKay: I'll know it when I see it... and I see it!

Sheppard is walking real close to McKay, seemingly wanting to walk side by side with him even though there is no space for it. We may also note that while McKay is being magnanimous toward Sheppard, he does not extend the same attitude toward Ronon, clearly frustrated by his lack of interest in what they are doing. Note also that Teyla sounds much more irritable about the length of their walk than McKay, but she seems to lay the blame on McKay that has dragged them deep into the woods looking for some fleeting energy signature and not on Sheppard who parked so far away from it.

To recap: Teyla and Ronon's attitudes toward McKay are the same as they were previously, Teyla being fed up and Ronon being oblivious, McKay's attitude toward the two of them are the same as ever, where Sheppard and McKay's dispositions toward each other are almost the opposite, and definitely much warmer. Let us also note that this is one of those missions where Sheppard is clearly indulging McKay, having apparently agreed to go on a wild goose hunt just to please him. He is also making an effort to be helpful and supportive, looking around for what ever it is that McKay wants to find. And so they do.

Dex: Looks like a door. McKay: Yes, it is remarkably door-like.

While we have seen Sheppard react to McKay speaking the word "look" previously, here he does not even say the word but rather points at what he wants them to look at, and Sheppard's attention immediately shifts to what ever McKay is calling attention to. Sheppard seems to be fully on board with this mission, going forward to push vines out of the way for them to get a better view, and it is not as though any of them know that this is a particularly important or interesting thing that they are looking for. Especially in contrast to their previous mission, Sheppard just seems to be enjoying being here and doing this with McKay. But while McKay may be giving Sheppard some leeway, his attitude toward Ronon is much the same as it has been during their previous missions, and he even rolls his eyes at Ronon's observation here as though he said something that was obvious, when finding a doorway deep in the woods is not precisely a common occurrence. It does put his disposition toward Ronon and Sheppard into sharper contrast, however.

Sheppard: Well, looks like the only way through the ridge anyway. It runs for miles. Alright, let's check it out. McKay: Whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa. There's something there! Sheppard: What?

They arrive at the portal to the secret valley, Sheppard yanking down vines to make it easier (and safer) for McKay to enter the cavern. He also steps in first, intending to take the brunt of anything that might be waiting for them inside, and he also intended to walk in first through the doorway seeming to lead on the other side of the mountain ridge that they had observed from the air. We may note once again that Sheppard is keeping to that side of McKay that will not be blocked by his weapon, not wanting that as a barrier between them, which we can tell by how he switches it right back to the other side after having used his dominant hand to do some vine-yanking. He also rests his hand against his thigh here as he waits for McKay, which seems to be a form of crotch display, inviting attention to his goods. Also, as he had intended to step in in front of McKay, and McKay had suddenly made him stop in his tracks, we see Sheppard swivel in place not seeming to know which way he is supposed to be facing as he does not want to have his back turned on McKay.

McKay: Some kind of an energy barrier right on the threshold. Teyla: It disappeared. Sheppard: Or it went right through a cloak. McKay: It has many of the same properties as a cloaking field. Sheppard: Yeah, and the Ancients did tend to hide all the really cool stuff. McKay: Yeah, I would just like to be able to explain these readings better before we step through.

Because Sheppard has "come to trust Rodney about these things," like he had told Caldwell during The Siege (S02E01), he takes heed of McKay's cautious approach, likely alerted more by his tone of voice than by the words he says. Thinking that it is better to be safe than sorry especially because he is not taking any risks with McKay's safety, particularly not with the recent hostage situation and McKay taking a lethal dose of the enzyme that Sheppard has almost certainly come to learn about since, he decides to pick up a rock and throw it at the doorway only to watch it disappear as it reaches the entrance to the cave. Given that McKay seems to be focusing real hard on the readings, we may excuse the fact that it takes him a moment to draw his eyes back to his machine as Sheppard bends down to pick up the stone right in his line of sight, McKay's eyes having followed Sheppard's movement instantaneously. McKay, that is, was most definitely checking him out there.

We can see the way that Sheppard and McKay are "Yes, and--"ing each other here by how they both start their lines with "Yeah" -- made all the more curious by the fact that McKay seems to want to disagree with Sheppard, seems to want to contradict him, but for some reason is unable to do it, and so is couching his concerns in respectful, positive language. Yes, that is a good idea only... Yes, you are right but... McKay even acknowledges that Sheppard's suggestion about it being a cloak is a good idea where he had rolled his eyes at Ronon's observation earlier, seeming to be on his best behaviour toward Sheppard for reasons that we are not explained (but we can definitely tell when they have been intimate and when they have not been intimate by how they treat each other in contexts such as these).

Sheppard's line about the Ancients hiding all their really cool stuff is also interesting because, while they sporadically have come across Ancient things, the only thing that had expressly been hidden was the ZPM that was guarded by the Quindosim in The Brotherhood (S01E16), and a few things had been locked away due to being dangerous (Hide and Seek, S01E03; Hot Zone S01E013), but nothing that the Ancients seem to have actually hidden. We do know that Sheppard found the Ancient weapons' platform and the Ancient warship Aurora "cool," but it does raise the question of whether they have discovered other cool things hidden by the Ancients that we never got to see. Regardless, important here is that McKay is being careful, almost cautious, and this too may be caused by recent events, by thinking he had lost Sheppard. They are both made a little tender by what had happened.

McKay: Get me a branch. You got tape? Because... I got a camera! I didn't ask for a log!

McKay snaps his fingers and pretty much orders Ronon to go get him a stick (while asking for a branch, which is what Ronon brings him and McKay then calls it a log; comedy!). He also rolls his eyes at Ronon when the man fails to read his mind. And because McKay tells Ronon to do something and asks Sheppard to do something else, the way he behaves toward them is again contrasted here. And while McKay is clearly trying to treat Sheppard better, this may be one of the occasions that prompted Sheppard later (McKay and Mrs Miller, S03E08) to point out that McKay never says please (or thank you, which he actually does say here).

McKay is known for not minding his manners when ever he is pursuing some idea or break-through, and given how often he is asked to perform actual miracles under immense pressure, he may occasionally be excused for favouring expediency over politeness. But we may still note how he speaks more softly to Sheppard here, and he even explains to him what they are doing by getting out his camera, smiling at Sheppard like a giddy school boy. Also, let us note that as soon as McKay asks him for something, Sheppard is already on his knees trying to fulfill his wish, probably not for the first time. Probably not even for the first time recently.

McKay: Thank you! OK, so... tape it to the stick... we extend the camera through, record for a few minutes, pull it back, play the recording.

It seems as though Teyla is better at reading McKay's mind at this time than Ronon, earning a "thank you!" from him, and we see her smirk at Ronon as he brings in the stick instead of the branch requested for.

Let us note a few things here. Firstly, McKay is explaining what he and Sheppard are doing to Ronon and Teyla. He is very clearly giving this commentary for their benefit because Sheppard seems to understand what he is going for without needing any further clarifications. McKay and Sheppard are doing this together where Ronon and Teyla are spectating, even though Teyla is the one holding the stick for them to work on. They are working seamlessly together. Second, they are not only close but look at their goddamn arms. Sheppard puts the tape over McKay's arm, resting his arm on McKay's and McKay does not only not pull his arm back but instead points at the doorway through Sheppard's arm. This is intimate. They are all up in each other's space. Sheppard even presses his knee forward to get closer to McKay. The camera also cuts away just as they both bring their hands over the recorder on top of each other -- to secure it, of course.

Sheppard: Yeah! MALP-on-a-stick! McKay: Yes, MALP-on-a-stick, very clever. Are we done? Sheppard: Yup!

So, Sheppard comes up with a cute nickname for the device and all of a sudden McKay seems to be having some attitude about it, which is a complete about face to how he had been acting toward Sheppard up until this point, which means that something had changed his disposition. And obviously it is not because he suddenly started thinking that Sheppard is the dumbest grunt he has ever had the displeasure of working with. McKay was so happy up until this moment with Sheppard in his space, explaining what the two of them were doing to the others.

Two things to note: Teyla smiles knowingly, seeming to get why McKay suddenly changed tones. And McKay's question, "Are we done?" indicates that Sheppard was taking an unnecessarily long time making sure the tape was holding. Sheppard was stalling because he did not want to draw back from McKay just yet, and what they were doing here, very nearly embracing, was starting to go well beyond plausible deniability what with their audience standing a foot away. While McKay did not want to put distance between them, likely he felt like for Sheppard's sake he needed to do that, and so he opts for Sheppard's go-to method, sarcasm. Only, like Sheppard, McKay actually does think that Sheppard was being clever in spite of his tone, and we have explicitly heard him call Sheppard clever before. It was clever and it was funny, and McKay holds eye contact with Sheppard all the way through telling him this. And Sheppard can't even be bothered by it, giving him a chipper "Yup!" as he pulls away. These fools are in love.

Continued in Pt. 2

-* It is implied that Sheppard had sex between The Defiant One and Hot Zone (several times), between Sanctuary and Before I Sleep (several times), in The Brotherhood (once, possibly twice), between The Brotherhood and Letters from Pegasus (a lot), he shared a bed although not necessarily had sex before The Gift, definitely had sex between The Gift and The Siege, had "an accident" between Duet and Condemned, turned down sex in Trinity, had "an accident" in Instinct, had sex between Conversion and Aurora, possibly in Aurora (at least made out before hopping on the Daedalus), in The Lost Boys, and between The Hive and Epiphany. And let us be clear that even in this episode, the sex is implied, it is not shown or even verbally confirmed. Needless to say, all the other times were with a man and always the same man.

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THOUGHT CRIMES / Joe Flanigan scenes

[doctor-daniel-jackson]

Controversial idk, but I've been rewatching SGA and I didn't notice this before, but JFlan is a pretty one note actor. Maybe I was distracted by Sheppard's hotness earlier, but like watching now I keep noticing that he doesn't really have a wide range. Like in a Long Goodbye you could easily tell when Torri was Weir and when the alien, but Sheppard was Sheppard the whole time. The slouching, the drawl, it was pretty much all the same all the time. I keep wondering if the actor just wasn't comfortable flexing his actor muscles or what. On the other hand JFlan had these awesome microexpressions, which were and are a delight.

So what do you think am I being too harsh?

Did I rewatch that episode just to answer this? Yes, and I don’t regret it (great episode). First of all, you are so correct Torri Higginson’s acting kicks ass in this episode. Phoebus is like a cunning Terminator or something with the way she hunts down Thalan and takes out anyone in her way.

Ok, for Flanigan’s acting in this episode and overall. Your observation that he’s kinda one note is pretty Valid in this episode, and he doesn’t get many opportunities throughout the show to show off his range like this so it is of note the few ventures into playing a different or altered character he has.

I tried, I really tried to find good examples of him portraying Thalan as noticeably different from Sheppard, but much like you, I came up short. Even in scenes where he’s not pretending to be Sheppard, dude still acts exactly like him but with a more serious face. The vibe I got from Flanigan was that he wasn’t too confident in the character itself, not making strong choices like Higginson did. The plot has Phoebus doing all the heavy lifting so Thalan kind of just has things happen to him, other than recruiting Ronan. This could’ve made it harder to carve out a real identity for the character.

I’ve seen Joe Flanigan in multiple things though and he kinda does play most of them the same way, mannerism wise. I will say though, his acting in Conversion where he’s slowly turning into a bug is great! I love the choices he made in that episode; you can see the wildness in his eyes whenever he does something out of character as the bug takes over. Also, as you noted, Flanigan is great at micro-expressions! Like seriously, his eyes are so expressive in such a subtle way. Watching his face in the background of scenes is a whole experience. I think Flanigan does his best work when he's fully invested in a character like Sheppard—someone he understands and he'll spend a lot of time with.

Your take was the perfect amount of hot for this! Thank you so much for submitting it (and feel free to submit more if they occur). I’m always happy for a reason to rewatch and analyze a scene or character.

[hannibalsjuicyass]

S03 x Ep. 17 "Sunday"

Stargate Atlantis

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Sir, we can't call it the Enterprise. // And we're not calling it the Enterprise either!

[sassycordy]

What is the sga debacle?? Did he do something specific?? I only know that he also made the shows Dark Matter and Utopia Falls which both have diversity and representation so that makes me hopeful for the same treatment in a new stargate series.

hi! whew im so sorry im just getting to this lmfao. truthfully ive been rly busy and this is such a serious topic that i wanted to make sure i chose my words carefully and laid everything out in the best way possible. 

disclaimer section! im not the best person to speak on this topic ahha. I just got into the fandom last year and it was only a few months ago that i started to hear some of these issues that existed previously (so if any veteran stargate fans wanna hop in on this and explain things in greater detail, please do)! also this is not a call out post or canceling thing. this is simply a hey-these-things-happened-and-maybe-we-should-be-careful-with-who-we-interact-with-and-trust type thing. anyways without further ado, here’s some of the sketchy shit that went down behind the scenes of stargate atlantis! (all sources are posted in the comment/replies btw)

> let’s start with the decision to kill off carson beckett because thats where the first weird comment pops up. now a lot of people claim that this was a move made by writers & producers to shake up the show and “make the actors feel less secure.” i’ve never been able to find that direct quote although ive heard people say that someone openly admitted it on the audio commentary/bonus features on the atlantis dvds soo take that however you like aha.

> after the sudden exit of paul mcgillion, tori higginson left the show a few episodes later anddddd ok this is where things escalate. this is an interview she gave where she openly talks about everything that went on behind the scenes. but to summarize, the writers ignored all of her input and refused to grow the character further when she had clearly outgrown the “Hammond” role. joseph mallozzi states in his blog post that brad wright himself was very fond and loved the weir character and he claims that the decision to write her out was because of “just simple logic.”(1) however, torri tells a different story. (2) 

“Honestly? I found that quite shitty, to be honest (laughs).Oops. But I found out, because I kept going to them, I kept going up to them saying ‘I have a feeling my character, you’re not doing anything with me, and you guys have me for six years and I don’t want to, you know, be here not doing anything. Let me know what’s going on.’ And they kept saying “no, no, no, it’s great. We love you. We love you. Things can be great.’ And I said ‘well, if that’s the case, can we do something with her’ and they kept reassuring me that nothing - and the very last day of filming season three, as I finished filming the last scene on the last day I was called up to the office and was told that my character was going to become recurring if I chose to be. So, I thought that was not very, um, dignified, way to deal with it, and I was a bit surprised. So I was—so my reaction was one of yeah, I was a little bit surprised. I was a little bit upset by how it was dealt with. But I wasn’t upset at the decision because I understood it. I kept going to them saying ‘I get, I get what’s going to happen, just give me some notice so I can pack my apartment and move back to L.A. Really. So I wasn’t upset with the decision. I was upset with how it was handled.”

she was led on and told her role would be reduced after the filming of season three which is uh. absolutely insane to think about considering she’s the main female lead of the show. And this is just my personal opinion but i think its interesting timing that as soon as brad stepped down, joseph mallozzi and his writing partner, paul mullie got rid of her. It’s also pretty telling that there was some bad blood behind the scenes because she didn’t even reprise her character in season five for the ghost in the machine aka the episode where they “kill elizabeth” off. although i do wanna mention that since then, jm has posted that he believes elizabeth would actually still be alive today and is just in stasis somewhere waiting to be found …which is nice. i guess. maybe they shouldn’t have fired her in the first place but hey whatever. 

and to end the torri section, here’s another quote that i think is the real reason she was let go from atlantis.

Question: And now Amanda Tapping seems to be doing exactly the same… just filing an episode. Torri said “Well, no. I understand that it’s a club, and you know, some people.. .you know. I think they didn’t like me constantly rapping on the doors saying ‘excuse me, why aren’t there any women writers or any women producers on the show?’ I think it bothered them. And so, Amanda, bless her, just had a kid so... bless her, man, she needs that gig more than [me]… you know what I mean? So I have no issues with any of them. I understand how it works. It is a bit of a political game and… I’m not very good at politics (laughs). I’m like Weir. I just want to act.”

> now this is where the joe flanigan of it all starts to come in. he’s been vocal about defending torri higginson and openly saying how bad of a decision it was to kill her off. (3) and his interview with dial the gate was enlightening on a few topics. (4)

his character didn’t get a backstory until season 3. tptb literally told him, “john likes ferris wheels” and called it a day. which is actually mind boggling. they gave him nothing to work with and somehow he turned it into gold. 

he’s also said many times and in different interviews how terrible it was that the writers carried over from sg1. the cast would pitch ideas but would be shut down because they would sound “too much like an sg1 ep” which is ridiculous considering how many atlantis scripts are just a rip off of sg1 eps anyways.

> and finally the whole whispers debacle. now i don’t really know a lot about this, so I'll just link the tumblr post that first brought this to my attention! (5) there’s also the whole “the writers stopped taking notes from the cast after season 3 and specifically started to shun joe out”  thing (which is very obvious in seasons 4 and 5) so i’ll also link another great tumblr post because they explain it so much better than i can. (6)

> there’s also the fact that once it became clear that universe was not doing well, both bw and jm turned and blamed it on atlantis and even sg1 fans.

“I don’t think if we, for any reason, go away, it is an issue necessarily of the quality of the product that we’ve been making. I think getting moved on the schedule has hurt us. And the fact that some of the fans that liked SG-1 and Atlantis were so angry that they have deliberately hurt us, which is unfortunate.” (7) Brad Wright. 

Jaso967060 writes: “Heck I think alot of people from “that other site” could be won back if some changes are made. (Finding out the Destinys Mission and the crew working together more instead of tearing each other down…and having more action…changes like that.)” 

Answer: Disagree. Given that their deluded mission statement is to see SGU cancelled in order to pave the way for an SGA return, I doubt that very much. (8) Joseph Mallozzi

this post is getting too long so i won’t go into the whole “stargate atlantis viewers were not the right demographic the writers wanted” thing. because yes this may have been said by one of the writers (i don’t have a source but so many people bring it up and it makes sense considering the type of show universe is). also joe flanigan talked about how the writers and producers disrespected atlantis fans and he sorta mentions this quote too so im gonna link it. (9) also i would just like to say huge shoutout to joe for not caring to be diplomatic lol. 

but yea. please take this post however you would like. all of this happened years and years ago so one can only hope people have learned from their mistakes. and if a fourth stargate show is ever made, I just pray they'll finally have women and poc writers/producers/directors as main contributors. also joseph mallozzi has done so many interviews with dial of the gate in recent years, so i would check those out if anyone would like to hear his current thoughts on stargate. (if you do, please message me because i would love to know if he acknowledges any of these topics ahah). 

and to end this lovely post, let's reminisce on that one time joe flanigan called the writers of atlantis “rodney mckays” <3

“Because the writers are all McKays – they are the collective Rodney McKay. It’s a whole load of little McKays running round up there in the offices.” (10)

so sorry this took a million years to respond to ahha. and i may have gotten a bit sidetracked but i hope i answered your question !!

[dailystargatebooty]

Pretty sure it was @colonelshepparrrrd who sent me this one. I’ve been keeping it as a backup for when I ran out of Shep butt and today is the day. Guess what I’ll be doing this weekend  😏

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Carson Beckett in Every Episode - Suspicion (S01E05)