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#just because a wild animal looks similar to a domestic one doesn't mean it can live like one
grymmdark · 4 months
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searched up serval cats cus i think theyre cute and silly and buncha stuff popped up about owning them as pets
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kaijutegu · 8 months
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Alligator Body Language and You, or: How To Know When An Alligator On Social Media is Being Stressed for Views
Alligators are wild animals. Despite the idiotic claims of animal abusers like Jay Brewer, they cannot be domesticated, which means they are always going to react on the same natural instincts they've had for millions of years. Habituated, yes. Tamed, yes. Trained, definitely. Crocodilians can form bonds with people- they're social and quite intelligent. They can solve problems, use tools, and they're actually quite playful. Alligators are also really good at communicating how they're feeling, but to somebody who doesn't spend much time around them, their body language can be a bit mystifying. And it doesn't help when social media influencers are saying shit like this:
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That is not what a happy gator looks like.
That's a terrified, furious gator who isn't attacking because the ogre handling her has her in a chokehold. She's doing everything she can to express her displeasure, and he's lying about it because he knows his audience doesn't even know how to think critically about what he's doing. He knows that because his audience doesn't know anything about these animals, he can get away with it. This I think is why I hate him so much- he deliberately miseducates his audience. He knows what he's doing is factually inaccurate, he just doesn't care because attention means more to him than anything else in the world.
Let's change that! Here are two really important lessons for understanding alligator body language on social media.
Lesson 1: Alligators Don't Smile (in fact, most animals don't)
So what's going on in this video? Jay Brewer is aggressively choking his white alligator Coconut while scrubbing algae off of her with a toothbrush. And make no mistake, he is digging into the creature's throat while she is visibly distressed. He claims she's happy- but she's not. He is willfully misrepresenting what this animal is feeling. That's a problem, because people... well, we actually kind of suck at reading other species' body language. The reason for this is that we tend to overlay our own responses on their physical cues, and that's a problem. For example, let's look at an animal with a really similar face to ours, the chimpanzee. Check out Ama's toothy grin!
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Wait, no. That's not a happy smile. That's a threat display. When a chimpanzee "smiles," it's either terrified and doing a fear grimace, or it's showing you its teeth because it intends on using them in your face.
How about a dog? Look at my smiling, happy puppy!
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Oh wait no, this is a picture of Ryder when he was super overwhelmed by noise and people during a holiday party. He'd hopped up in my sister's lap to get away from stuff that was happening on the floor and was panting quite heavily. See the tension in the corners of his mouth and his eyes? A lot of the time when a dog "smiles," the smile isn't happy. It's stress! Why Animals Do The Thing has a nice writeup about that, but the point is, our body language is not the same as other species. And for reptiles, body language is wildly different.
For instance, look at these two alligators. Pretty cute, right? Look at 'em, they're posing for a Christmas card or something! How do you think they're feeling?
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Well, I'll tell you how the normal one is feeling. He's annoyed! Why is he annoyed? Because the albino just rolled up, pushed another gator off the platform, and is trying to push this guy, too. I know this because I actually saw it happen. It was pretty funny, not gonna lie. He's not gaping all the way, but he was hissing- you can actually see him getting annoyed in the sequence I took right before this shot. Look at him in this first shot here- he's just relaxing, and you can see he isn't gaping even a little bit.
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By the end, he's expressing displeasure, but not enough to actually do anything about it. He's annoyed, but he's comfy and that's where one of the best basking areas is, so he'll put up with it.
Reptiles open their mouths wide for a lot of reasons, but never because they are actively enjoying a sensation. Unless they're eating. No reptile smiles- they can't. They don't even have moveable lips. If a reptile is gaping, it's doing so because:
It is doing a threat display.
It is making certain vocalizations, all of which are threats. Alligators are one of the rare reptiles that do regularly vocalize, but most of their calls aren't made with a wide open mouth.
It is about to bite something delicious or somebody stupid. Check out this video- virtually all of the gaping here is anticipatory because these trained gators know darn well that the bowl is full of delicious snacks. (I have some issues with Florida's Wildest, but the man knows how to train a gator AND he is honest about explaining what they're doing and why, and all of his animals are healthy and well-cared for, and he doesn't put the public or his staff at risk- just himself.)
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It's too hot and it has opened its mouth to vent some of that heat and thermoregulate. This is the main reason why alligators will often have their mouths part of the way open, but sometimes they'll open all the way for thermoregulation. This is what a thermoregulatory gape looks like- usually it's not all the way open, kinda more like < rather than V, but you can't say that 100% of the time. Additionally, a thermoregulatory gape... typically happens when it's hot out. If they're inside, maybe they've been under their basking light for too long. Heat's the dominant factor, is what I'm getting at.
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There is another reason that a captive crocodilian might be gaping, and that's because it's doing so on command. Some places have their gators trained to gape on cue, like St. Augustine Alligator Farm and other good zoos. They have the animals do this in presentations that are genuinely educational. They ask the animals to open their mouths so that they can show off their teeth and demonstrate how their tongues seal off the back of their mouth. They'll also do it as part of routine healthcare, because looking at their teeth is important.
In this case, the animals aren't gaping because they're stressed, they're gaping because they know they're gonna get a piece of chicken or fish if they do it. And what's more, they're doing it on cue. They have a specific command or signal that tells them to open wide. It's not an instinctive response to a situation. It's trained. If the animal provides the behavior after a cue, the situation is much less likely to be negatively impactful.
It's also important to remember that there's a difference between a partially open mouth and a gape! As discussed above, alligators will often have their mouths a little bit open just to maintain temperature homeostasis. It helps them stay comfy, temperature-wise. These guys are all doing thermoregulatory open-mouthed behavior- that slight open and relaxed body posture is a dead giveaway. (That and it's the hottest spot in the enclosure.)
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Lesson 2: A Happy Gator Is A Chill Gator
So if alligators don't smile or have facial expressions other than the :V that typically signifies distress, how else can you tell how they're feeling? One way is stillness. See, alligators subscribe to the philosophy of if it sucks... hit da bricks.
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Basically, if they hate it, they'll leave. Unless, y'know, somebody has their meaty claws digging into their throat or is otherwise restraining them. (Restraint isn't always bad, btw. Sometimes the animal is going through a medical thing or needs to be restrained for their safety- which a responsible educator will explain.)
Let's look at a very similar scenario, in which a captive alligator is getting his back scrubbed.
As you can see, it's quite different. First, he's not being restrained at all. Second, look at how relaxed he is! He's just chilling there vibing! He could simply get up and leave if he wanted to, because he's not being held. Towards the end of the video, as he lifts his head, you can see that his respiratory rate is very even as his throat flutters a bit. I'm not sure what this facility is, so I can't comment on care/general ethics, but like. In this specific case, this is an alligator enjoying being scrubbed! And you can tell because he's not doing anything. A happy gator is content to be doing what they're doing.
Why Should I Listen To You?
Now, you should ask yourself, why should you listen to me? Why should you trust me, who does not own an alligator, versus Jay Brewer, who owns several?
Well, first off, there's no profit for me in telling you that what you're seeing on social media is in fact not what you're being told you're seeing. I'm not getting paid to do this. That's the thing with people who make social media content. The big names aren't doing it just for fun. They're doing it for money. Whether that's profit through partnerships or sponsorships, or getting more people to visit their facilities, or ad revenue, you can't ignore the factor of money. And this is NOT a bad thing, because it allows educators to do what they're passionate about! People deserve to be paid for the work that they do!
But the problem starts when you chase the algorithm instead of actually educating. A "smiling" alligator gets the views, and if people don't know enough to know better, it keeps getting the views. People love unconventional animal stories and they want those animals to be happy- but the inability to even know where to start with critically evaluating these posts really hinders the ability to spread real information. Like, this post will probably get a couple hundred notes, but that video of Coconut being scrubbed had almost 400,000 likes when I took that screenshot. Think about how many eyeballs that's reached by now. What I'm saying here is that it's just... really important to think critically about who you're getting your information from. What do dissenters say in the comments? What do other professionals say? You won't find a single herpetologist that has anything good to say about Prehistoric Pets, I can tell you that right now.
Another reason you can trust me is that my sources are not "just trust me bro," or "years of experience pretending my pet shop where animals come to die is a real zoo." Instead, here are my primary sources for my information on alligator behavior:
Dragon Songs: Love and Adventure among Crocodiles, Alligators, and Other Dinosaur Relations- Vladimir Dinets
The Secret Social Lives of Reptiles- J. Sean Doody, Vladimir Dinets, Gordon M. Burghardt
Social Behavior Deficiencies in Captive American Alligators (Alligator mississippiensis)- Z Walsh, H Olson, M Clendening, A Rycyk
Social Displays of the American Alligator (Alligator mississippiensis)- Kent Vliet
Social Signals and Behaviors of Adult Alligators and Crocodiles- Leslie Garrick, Jeffery Lang
Never smile at a crocodile: Gaping behaviour in the Nile crocodile at Ndumo Game Reserve, South Africa- Cormac Price, Mohamed Ezat, Céline Hanzen, Colleen Downs (this one's Nile crocs, not American alligators, but it's really useful for modeling an understanding of gape behaviors and proximity)
Thermoregulatory Behavior of Captive American Alligators (Alligator mississippiensis)- Cheryl S. Asa, Gary D. London, Ronald R. Goellner, Norman Haskell, Glenn Roberts, Crispen Wilson
Unprovoked Mouth Gaping Behavior in Extant Crocodylia- Noah J. Carl, Heather A. Stewart, Jenny S. Paul
Thank you for reading! Here's a very happy wild alligator from Sanibel for your trouble.
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skaldish · 7 months
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Thank you for your answer! I am a home Loki anon.
Due to your answer, there two questions that popped up.
Did Loki spirit behaved like slavic domovoy? I just need some more information to understand properly new information. And, because of this, would it be okay to somewhat worship Him as a home deity? I know that His domains don't have family and hearth aspects, but He always had a feeling of home, love for His family and warmth feeling.
Thank you for everything. Sorry, if it's annoying.
It's no worries! I would say Loki behaves a little similar. It's similar enough that I don't think it's unreasonable to venerate him as a deity of the home, so long as you're aware he'll probably focus only on his favorite aspects of home life rather than all of it.
Loki can make the house a happy place filled with fun and laughter. He's really great with children, and I feel like he has a special connection with storytelling by the fire. He also likes being included in the making of food, and especially the eating of it. Food is a joyful thing for Loki so you can expect it to play a bigger role in your life with him around.
What makes Loki different than the Domovoy in the fact he comes and goes. He's not tied to the house so he doesn't always inhabit it.
He also won't always encourage you to make the most adult decisions regarding the home. I can't think of a single time Loki encouraged me to save money when I could spend it on fun decorations, or to do chores when I could take the day off. He'll never say it's better to eat dinner before dessert, so you'll have to be the one to decide that on your own.
Loki may have origins as a domestic spirit, but he's Jötun by nature—a wild thing. He abides by his own whims and comes and goes as he pleases. However, he's not really one to leave the things he cares about unprotected, so even if he vanishes for a bit, it doesn't mean he's not protecting you.
(Side-note: There's actually another type of spirit in Norse heathenry that's more like the Domovoy than Loki is, and that's the Nisse/Tomte. Not all houses have a Nisse, but they can be encouraged to move in. Once that happens, they basically provide similar functions the Domovoy does; they protect the house, oversee the luck and prosperity of the family, keep the animals cared for, make sure things are kept well-maintained, etc. They also get frustrated when people don't care for the house, and when they don't value their friendships with them. Nisse are said to look like little men with long beards and pointy hats, but lady Nisse also exist. They're also small whereas Loki is not.)
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sol-consort · 23 days
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Do you think the other species would find it weird how symbiotic humans are with a bunch of our animals?
Birds bond with us like with other birds, even start seeing us as their nest partners if we pet them below the neck (which you should never do bc humans make shitty partners and it sends them into a depressive feather-plucking episode bc they take it as rejection)
Cats domesticated themselves into our lives. Their natural evolution saw benfits to relaying on us for the rest of their existence, literally putting all of their eggs in one basket
We were the ones who convinced dogs to stay with us.
The whole riding horses things, as far as we can tell no other species has a similar thing? (Maybe Krogans with thrash mowers) Camels, too.
Dolphins, the sociopaths of the oceans, like us for some reason and help humans in need a lot.
Sharks don't eat us...at least on purpose. Despite our size, they think we have too little meat and don't see us as viable prey. Only bite curiously to investigate what we are and in self defence.
Pandas' whole existence is maintained by us. They should be extinct by all means, but we stubbornly keep them alive.
There are so many rules and regulations set in place against feeding animals in the wild because they will start seeing humans as friends and forgo all hunting to come form a symbiotic relationship with us.
The many pets we keep, even ones with brains "incapable" of love like tarantulas, snakes, and else. We adore them to death, and they aren't aggressive around us. They recognise as the one who brings them food and offers warmth.
Human vocal cords are pretty good at mimickery. We whistle bird songs back to them, we meow back to cats, we teach parrots phrases. We see a new creature, ask if anyone is gonna bond with it and not even wait for an answer.
They wouldn't find it weird; they have varen and fish, but humans can quickly appear as the "crazy cat lady" of the galaxy from the amount of animals we've domesticated and bonded with.
Salarians had a whole tropical rainforest, yet they never bothered to go further than studying the animals in there. Get a bunch of humans on Sur'kesh and a couple will make it their life mission to befriend as many colorful birds as possible, setting a bird feeder and letting them rest on their shoulder and head, casually talking to them in that high pitched babytalk tone birds adore.
All the cute Pyjaks in Tuchanka you can cuddle with and let them hang around your neck like a cute little baby. I wanna smooch their stupid foreheads aaa.
Or divers being silly and playing with the aquatic creatures in the oceans of the hanar world. Fish actually like being pet! They just don't know it and never get the chance to experience it. Human divers even pet deadly eels at times and twirl them around like silly fat snakes.
It's our brain capacity to see any creature—no matter how deadly —as a potential "part of the tribe" is what gets them confused. At one point, the excuse of our brains mistaking cute fluffy animals with big eyes for human babies simply falls apart. They can understand that when looking at a cat, but how in the world did a human stare at a deadly bear and think, "My baby!" they're bigger than you.
In a lot of our "symbiotic" relationship with animals and pets, we get next to nothing in exchange. We simply do it out of love. Maybe back then, we had a practical use and jobs for these animals, but not anymore. We keep pigeons because they are lovely creatures. We raise shepherd dogs inside our warm homes.
That's it, no, really. All that trouble for love, the animal doesn't even necessarily have to be cute, small, or defenceless. Some humans are more friendly to animals than other humans.
It's the whole burden of existence, the guilt of being self-aware and conscious. We evolved, they didn't, we know what mitochondria is, they don't, we feel bad :(
What music would a cat listen to? What movie would a bird buy tickets to? How would a horse paint? Would blue be a popular clothing colour in a dog society?
They're missing out. on. so. much. The world is so much bigger than they think it is, and it's killing me. Pigs can't even lift their head, most of them have never seen the beautiful cloudy sunsets or the starry glimmering skies. The galaxy and heavens above they've never glimpsed it.
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no one is into animal hybrids well that's okay because i will make you into animal hybrids. i just find it interesting and cool and like if unicorns were real sometimes it's like Wow... but also u can be on some level aware of the ethicality i guess bc some ppl crossbreed animals for i dunno taking advantage or entertainment purposes or just like arrogance and stupidity BUT sometimes it's just like the scientific spirit i suppose i don't know. and there's a difference between like hybrids with fertile young vs infertile but just because the hybrid offspring is infertile doesn't always mean it's unhealthy or i suppose immoral ? its just to do with chromosomes n junk it's all complicated ... and i just like them and like seeing what they look like i used to be the kid who believed in that cat/rabbit hybrid hoax though which doesn't help
but it does just happen in the wild a bunch bc a coyote just thinks it found the worlds biggest coyote girlfriend but really his girlfriend is a wolf. which is so funny to me. I love them so much.
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and then u have something like a buffalo and a cow which r fertile . and a false killer whale and bottlenose dolphin
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all members of the ursidae family can healthily produce offspring which rules but i think this second picture might just be a normal grizzly bear. but the first is a polar grizzly <3
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then there's savannah cats and bengal cats which i think everyone knows about but make me so mad to be honest every time i see a serval in someone's house i wish they dropped dead it is HIGHLY unethical and just stupid even if i do sort of get wanting to have your own mini tiger it's just STUPID and rich people bullshit and 9/10 times when they can't look after the wild animal in their home it ends up being dumped + very rarely are they being taken care of + it is abusive by nature to simply own any wild animal even if you're a fucking trained animal handler or whatever which also goes for idiots who keep sugar gliders or like raccoons + letting it interact with domestic pets is WILD. and most of them end up as rescues in sanctuaries like with every other exotic pet and actually there's entire debates on whether it's ethical to even have sanctuaries where the keeper directly interacts with the animal and "no touch" facilities i believe r more ethical and the best option for the animal.. basically if u see a dumbass tiktok where someone is petting a panther taking advantage of the spectacle it creates call them a cunt in the comments okay
anyway. these domestic wild hybrids DO have health problems though it is interesting that the savannah cat female offspring is fertile to begin with... it's similar to wolfdogs in the levels of wild vs domestic being ranked 1 to .. 4 ? i think (but wolfdogs i don't actually know much about... they r more common tho) so like an f1 savannah cat is basically just a smaller serval which are HUGE wild cats to begin with and then it goes on in generations until it is essentially a house cat . so dismissing everything i just said it is interesting to see
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then with other big cats all members of the panthera genus can interbreed but all produce infertile male offspring and would never occur naturally in the wild. the females are fertile though which is also interesting i think... they also like most hybrids have different characteristics dependent on the parent species and sex so a male tiger and female lion (tigon) would create something different than a female tiger and a male lion (liger). which is also cool hashtag genetics. these are a female and male liger
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welikeanimals · 9 months
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Are Raccoons Safe for Allergy Sufferers
As I was maturing, raccoons constantly seemed like such great, brilliant little pets. With their dark masks and bandit-like appearance, they resembled they would certainly make fun unique pets. As I grew older though, I discovered that while raccoons might show up adorable, they absolutely do not make great family pets. For one, they are not hypoallergenic at all.
Raccoons belong to the procyonidae household of creatures, which additionally includes pets like coatis, olingos, ringtails, and cacomistles. Being omnivores, raccoons have a different diet in the wild that includes plants, fruits, nuts, eggs, small vertebrates, and invertebrates. They are really smart pets and quite dexterous with their front paws. Nevertheless, their interested nature is precisely what makes them improper as interior animals.
When looking into pets, it's always crucial to consider animal well-being and whether a species is suggested to be kept as a tamed companion. Raccoons are extremely brilliant, yet they are also nocturnal creatures that require a great deal of room, enrichment, and psychological stimulation. Maintaining a raccoon in a home just doesn't offer their all-natural habits and requirements. In addition to that, raccoons are known carriers of the parasites and illness that can significantly affect human wellness.
One large reason raccoons do not make great animals is that they are absolutely not hypoallergenic. As scavengers, raccoons lug all type of fleas, ticks, termites, and other bloodsuckers both on the surface and inside. Their dander, saliva, and pee also contain effective allergens that can trigger extreme allergic reactions in sensitive individuals. This makes living with a raccoon a health danger for any individual with family pet allergies or a damaged body immune system.
Raccoons produce a protein in their dander, saliva, and urine called Procyon lotor 1 fatty-acid-binding protein (PLFABP). This healthy protein is really similar to the major feline, pet dog, and rodent allergens Fel d 1, Can f 1, and Rat n 1. Studies have actually revealed PLFABP to be a effective inhalant irritant for lots of people. Also brief exposure to a raccoon or its living quarters can possibly cause respiratory system problems, sneezing, itching, breakouts, or worse.
On top of PLFABP, raccoon dander contains various other famous irritants like Procyon lotor 2 (PLFABP2). It additionally carries external parasites like the raccoon roundworm (Baylisascaris procyonis) that position significant health risks if transmitted to human beings. Roundworm larvae can migrate throughout the body, creating neurological damages or perhaps death in toddlers and immunocompromised individuals. Appropriate wild animals care is essential for preventing such zoonotic illness.
Because raccoons are wild animals and not domesticated types, their requirements and drives are extremely various from felines and pet dogs. As nighttime foragers, they require a great deal of space to climb, discover, and show natural habits like excavating. Even with substantial 'raccoon-proofing' of a home, these smart pets will unavoidably find means to get into places they shouldn't for their interest's sake. This results in damages of residential or commercial property and potential risks to human safety.
Attempting to cope with a raccoon implies making major lifestyle modifications. Their energetic hours do not align with a typical family timetable. Noise from a restricted raccoon at night might disrupt sleep. Likewise, raccoons can possibly bite or damage if stunned or really feeling intimidated. Unlike small animals, a raccoon has the dimension and stamina to trigger substantial injury otherwise correctly trained from a young age. Nonetheless, training a wild animal goes against its natural impulses.
In general, also one of the most devoted of caretakers would have a difficult time giving an ideal captive atmosphere for a raccoon. These adaptable creatures are simply not implied to be restricted as indoor animals due to health and wellness, behavioral, and honest worries. While they may show up fascinating, raccoons require obligations far past what the ordinary family pet owner is outfitted to deal with. For those looking for an exotic animal experience, there are numerous other varieties like rabbits, guinea pigs, or birds that make better domestic companions.
So in summary, raccoons should not be thought about as hypoallergenic family pets. Their hair, dander, saliva, and waste include proteins that are powerful allergens for individuals. Past allergic reactions, raccoons also bring external bloodsuckers and zoonotic diseases harmful to human wellness if not correctly looked after. Fulfilling their complicated requires as nighttime, territorial wildlife is extremely difficult within a home atmosphere. While appreciated for their intelligence in the wild, raccoons do not adjust well to bondage and ought to be appreciated from risk-free viewing distances instead of as indoor family pets. Stick to better tiny animal friends if seeking a low-allergen animal.
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Well, I've got two animals on the brain right now that I'm curious about: Leopards and the Columbidae bird family (pigeons and doves), if you know anything about those-
Yeah alright let's go, leopards first.
Leopards are one of the smallest big cats, but they're also one of the strongest in comparison.
They're also the best climbers and are extremely agile
The reason for this is because they drag their kills into trees where they don't have to deal with other animals like hyenas or lions trying to steal their food
Look at this shit, theyll drag giraffes and zebra into trees which aren't exactly light
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Leopards will ambush their prey from trees which doesn't give a chance for that poor critter to react.
Also since people get confused between leopards and jaguars, if it's in a tree it's a leopard.
There's a lot of sub species of leopards. Like a lot. 27 of them in facts, but only eight have been technically recognized while the rest are just proposed.
Y'all know I had to talk about the bull known as the black panther (which doesn't exist) they're actually jaguars or leopards with melanin issues.
Melonistic leopards are caused by a recessive gene, so most pictures you see of a 'black panther' are actually melanistic jaguars.
This one I actually just learned and is only sort of related to leopards. Snow leopards? Yeah they aren't leopards at all, in fact they're genetically closer related to tigers, having a common ancestor about 2 million years ago.
This one is just conjecture, but I'd say it's probably because of their spots, or rosettes, since they're so similar to leopards.
Honestly there's so much about leopards that I could gush about but I'll stop there for now, let's see what my brain remembers about our favorite garbage birds and their family tree
So first off, doves and pigeons? Technically the same thing. Well, taxonomically at least, they all descended from the wild rock dove. (Which is the one you'll see on city streets)
There's 344 species decided into 50 genera, 13 of which are extinct.
Babies are called squabs which is absolutely adorable
Also, unlike most birds, both sexes can produce milk! It's called crop milk or pigeon milk
Their size variation is vast, the biggest, the crowned pigeon, is nearly turkey sized and can weigh almost nine pounds
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Ain't he fancy? Speaking of, this guy has four sub species all on his own.
They can be found just about everywhere except the driest parts of the Sahara desert and, of course, Antarctica.
We all know they were used as messangers during war, but did you know 32 pigeons have been decorated with the Dickin Medal, citing them for brave service for war contributions. A couple of the best names are, Commando, G.I. Joe, Paddy, Royal Blue, and William of Orange.
They've been used as carrier pigeons for thousands of years, and domesticated just as long.
Like, Flavius Honorius was Roman emperor from 393 to 423, was known for keeping them as pets.
Doves are also in just about every religion you can think of, almost entirely always meaning some sort of positive thing but there's a lot so here's a couple that I'm just going to copy and paste 😅
(this one's weird but yeah okay) Jesus's parents sacrificed doves on his behalf after his circumcision (Luke). Later, the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus at his baptism like a dove (Matthew), and subsequently the "peace dove" became a common Christian symbol of the Holy Spirit.
In Islam, doves and the pigeon family in general are respected and favoured because they are believed to have assisted the final prophet of Islam, Muhammad, in distracting his enemies outside the cave of Thaw'r, in the great Hijra. A pair of pigeons had built a nest and laid eggs at once, and a spider had woven cobwebs, which in the darkness of the night made the fugitives believe that Muhammad could not be in that cave.
According to the Tanakh, doves are kosher, and they are the only birds that can be used for a korban.
Alright had to do a bit of googling but apparently I knew more about these lil guys than I thought! Hope you enjoyed something that got way longer than I meant for it to 😅
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