#lee and kenny would

[bourbonificould]

I've always wondered about why taking Kenny's hat means nothing, so I'm just gonna put a headcanon together.

In S4EP3, Clem was gonna be able to give AJ a haircut (idk if you'd be able to choose), but I'm thinking if she cuts it a certain style + goes to Wellington + takes Kenny's hat, AJ would say something like "I want a hat like yours", and the player would get the option to pull it out of your ass Lee style or say you don't have one/defaults you to say that.

I know Clem handing off her hat to AJ is symbolic, but I kinda prefer her with it when she goes on settlement trips or something. She's 17 not 73 lmao she's still gonna be doing things.

[fox-from-fairytale]

Lee is facepalming. Luke is scratching the back of his head, concerned. Kenny is muttering under his breath three new nicknames and five insults. Jane is rolling her eyes. Gabe is still resentful of that "we were just friend".

Omid is smiling and clapping, unaware of the mood in the room and genuinely happy that Clementine went for Louis.

[phatkochi]

Lololol

[harlsqueenzel]

What if this was season 2

[brainfilehasstoppedworking]

Lee: I hate this guy.

Kenny: Want me to kill him? I can do it right now if they're bothering you.

Lee: Damn, all I said was that I hate this guy, Kenny! No need to kill people...

Kenny: Okay, just know that I got your back, Lee.

[chikkou]

Lee's death in Telltale Walking Dead makes me cry like a little fucking bitch every time I replay it ;_;

STOP THIS IS ACTUALLY SO FUCKING REAL... I WAS AN ABSOLUTE WRECK WHEN LEE GOT BIT

i know people will say "lee has no personality hes just a player avatar!!" but thats NOT true. he is intelligent and empathetic and cares deeply for the people around him, even if theyre people hes just met. he takes on primary care for clementine in 2 seconds and protects her above all else, even above himself. and when he gets bitten during his mad dash to save her from the stranger, all he cares about is making sure shes found and brought to safety before he dies.

lots of the games events did hit pretty hard but NOTHING hit like the entirety of episode 5, knowing lee is a goner but fighting through it anyway. the minute clementine started crying i snapped like a twig jhsdfkds

[diientedegato]

I'm curious if you have any thoughts on what Ben Paul would look like if he was alive years after S1 of TWDG :> I honestly prefer to imagine both him & Kenny going off on their own adventures after S1, because Idk if I'd've had Kenny as part of S2, it felt like when he returned it became less Clem's story & more his. That might be controversial among fans but it's how I feel :s I like to imagine Ben, Kenny & Sarita forming their own little family in fact <3 I'd expect Ben would end up with shaggier hair after a while but I wouldn't mind knowing what he'd look like with short, spiked up hair ;>

IM SORRY BOTH THE ASK AND DRAWING ARE OLD- but I came across the sketch I had eugeugeh. I do not have many headcanons but behind the cut is just a rant about. Kenny mostly. Too much should I warn? But yah I'm sorry it took me like 5 months lol

The only headcanon (regarding Ben's appearance) is that he'd keep his school jacket for as long as possible. Until it thorns apart. Or until he dies.

I'm big fan of Ben lives possibility btw I've gotta draw sum about that sometime (I say, about every twdg character i like,)

And dude, do I agree about Kenny. Man doesn't belong in season 2. The character they made him to be in the second season is not Kenny, it's just a nostalgia element. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, I'm biased as hell, I break that hug choice every time. But it made the character development in the first season just.... pointless. "For some reason, I saved that piece of shit Ben", man, that quote just disappoints me. Kenny lost everything. Father and husband of none no more, which was pretty much the arc of Kenny on the first season?? I think? . Everything he loved and he had he lost, and he killed the person responsible for it. But not as revenge, he killed a kid out of mercy. He saved the boy from suffering a painful death, and that was forgiveness, to the reason he hadn't any. He took a decision he would be fully responsible of, when it was time for him to go. And he was perfect.

Hell, if he had appeared during season 2, I do prefer the Kenny as Carver idea. Clementine wasn't even that close to Kenny in the past, the player was, so even then it feels... off, off to be forced to care about a man that says so much he wants to protect you. (They're not really family, but is as if Kenny tries to protect and have Clem on his side, to have Clem's loyalty through and through. Though he does let her go and is proud of her on her individuality... hm.) But still, I mean, second season Kenny is not first season Kenny, and it isn't even a change that made sense. If he had been antagonist (which pretty much feels like it in the Canon story already), he should have had some other background story, no Sarita or company. Maybe then the cynical view he has would have mattered. The violence and anger and whatever else. For him to change that way was a consequence of him losing what he represented, protection of family? Wasn't failure and grief and acceptance meant to be important after all?

But otherwise yea I think it would've been pretty cool if Ben survived :3 I am a sucker for tales of redemption, forgiveness, and found family. And I hadn't thought about Kenny, Ben, and Sarita, but hell yeah. Man, even if they appeared in the second season, it would've been interesting if the choice wasn't between two individuals, but between two families. Ben already had a relationship with Clem! He appreciated her and calls her his only friend during season 1, he did leave her behind during that scene, -but the point of Ben was that- He was a coward all the season, until when he wasn't. He wanted to help Lee help Clem. They would've had an interesting sibling relationship-? also Ben had a young sister before the apocalypse so ooooh projection and parallels and shi. And if Ben had lived, he would've completed his development to something close to bravery-?

Well, I don't know, at least I think that'd be one interesting way to bring back old characters. Otherwise, Kenny should only be mentioned on dialogue maximum. The way I see it.

(I repeat the same thing over and over when I talk about something I'm sorry

(I've developed no language skills whatsoever in my life

(Yippee

[spacedlexi]

As someone who loves both Kenny and Violet, I feel like I’ve found my calling here 😭😭😭

They’re genuinely so similar, and I do agree that the fandom has male bias, as well as protagonist bias actually

Clementine has the opportunity to befriend/romance Violet and then let her get kidnapped 20 minutes later. And for Violet, that is the most obvious feeling of betrayal! I don’t understand why people in the fandom struggle to realize that their actions have consequences

Lee can basically hate Kenny the entirety of the first season and then the fandom defends Kenny for his actions.

Clearly most of us totally understand Kenny’s response to Lee’s and by extension Clementine’s behavior, so why can’t they understand Violet’s response to Clem’s? Makes no sense to me

honestly i feel like aside from having a male bias the fandom has more of a kenny bias than a protag bias. i see his ass EVERYWHERE. CONSTANTLY. some people act like he raised clem as much as lee did 😭 (and i dont like the way the fandom talks about clem sometimes 😒 ties into the "weird about women" stuff)(and javi? wheres javi? i would like to see more javi. i actually think i see david more than javi)

anyway. i DO find kenny to be a compelling character and understand Why hes popular. its why i initially thought vi would be more popular among those fans! people who like both kenny and vi i can trust to have understood the assignment 💀 because they really do share similarities. but things some people LOVE kenny for they absolutely LOATHE violet for. and its just???? whats not clicking???

i really dont understand why some people act So Shocked by violets reaction in the cells. like hello?? YOU did this to her??? shes done nothing but put herself on the line for clem (even if clem is mean and ungrateful about it), and the One time vi needs clem to have her back, she doesnt (even tho its an impossible choice to make, and deep down vi understands this). and people shock pikachu face when it pushes her back to minnie like no shit??? but i dont think theyre even paying attention to violets character in the first place so 🙄😑 violet settled into that leadership position on her own and not only do you strip her of that role by letting her get taken she also feels discarded by the One Person who was actually influencing her to change for the better in the first place. AND you can do it all 20 minutes after kissing her. of course shes hurt!!! but people act like shes soooo unreasonable for her behavior (and vi would later agree with them! she tries apologizing to clem on the beach actually. thats how quickly she regrets it. but its too late at that point for her i guess 🙄 irredeemable. to the stocks)

kenny will Literally refuse to help lee look for clem if you pissed him off too much like 😭?? if you arent kissing kennys ass 24/7 he is the worlds biggest bitch about it. but endless excuses for kennys behavior for some reason 🤨 him trying to save ben (or christa but its better with ben narratively) is his first Real selfless act and its why its such a compelling conclusion for his S1 arc (only compounded by the fact its BEN of all people hes trying to save, the reason his family is dead). and S2 kenny is all about how his mental health is in sharp decline and hes becoming more violent as he attempts to control what he cannot 💀 kenny defenders out here using up all the oxygen in the room to make excuses for his actions but the minute vi makes One mistake she immediately regrets (after being nothing but loyal), shes an evil bitch deserving of what she got 😐

gee i wonder why 😭😔

[amphibiahawks321]

[Clementine sitting on the edge of the bed]

[Door opens]

M!Reader : Hey Clem! Supper in 5 minutes! Omar's making stew again

[Y/N walked up to Clementine]

M!Reader : AJ said he wanted to help Omar with the stew so try not to criticise the little guy too much with the food–.....

[Y/N sits beside her]

M!Reader : You okay Clem? I could sneak you a candy bear if the stew ended up tasting bad–

Clementine : No it's that It's just.... I'm just really happy me and AJ get to meet all of you

M!Reader : Aww!

Clementine : Really.... I thought that AJ and I would have had to live in that rotting car forever.... Eating expired cans of beans

M!Reader : honestly with AJ helping with the food I think I would prefer eating a can of beans

[Clementine chuckles and bump Y/N's arm]

M!Reader : Kidding! Kidding! I know AJ won't make the food terrible!

Clementine : Chuckles but again... I'm happy I got to meet you all.... Especially you...

M!Reader : .....

M!Reader blushing : H-hehe Thanks!

[Clementine forms a tiny blush]

Clementine : S-Sorry... That was a little cheesy....

[Y/N kiss Clementine's cheek]

Clementine blushing : ......

M!Reader : Well I think that was 'gouda'

Clementine : .....

M!Reader : Too cheesy?

Clementine : pfftt! You think?

Clementine : .....

Clementine : Lee would've loved meeting you....

M!Reader : Chuckles from the way you describe Lee yesterday when we all talk about our childhood past I could tell he would've love me!

Clementine : Hehe yeah... That was some plan ruby had...

M!Reader : Duh! We needed to do something after we kicked Lily's ass down!

M!Reader : For Kenny.... Ummmm... Pretty sure he would give me the stink eye every time were together....

Clementine : His quite protective of me...

M!Reader : I get why! You're an absolute badass!

Clementine : Thanks....

M!Reader : Now...

M!Reader : Shall we go for the supper M'lady~?

[Clementine chuckles]

Clementine : And I shall hope it is gonna be the finest cuisine~

[Both of them chuckle and leave the room]

.......

BONUS

[Y/N and Clementine leave the room and zooms back to Clementine's bed]

[Shows Kenny and Lee sitting on her bed with both of their bodies translucent and glowing]

Kenny : ......

Kenny : I don't like this guy...

Lee : Kenny come on man, you gotta at least give him a chance

[glorious-spoon]

9-1-1 Season 7 Post-Mortem

Mostly because I want to put my thoughts in order. Full disclosure: I'm really not thrilled with a lot of the choices this season made, but I'm also not at the 'fuck this show I hate it now' level either. The primary, overarching issue, IMO, is that they tried to stuff a full season's worth of plot into ten episodes, and the pacing and emotional continuity suffered badly. And also there were some writing choices that were simply deranged (and hopefully would have been reworked had they not been laying down the tracks in front of the speeding train, so to speak).

(Cut for me rambling at length)

So: Bobby and Athena were largely really solidly written. The cruise ship disaster was great: campy and OTT, but in a fun way. Their marital issues and the eventual resolution felt like a natural continuation of issues they've had in the past. Bobby Begins 3.0 was a great episode other than the cartel element, which was some ill-considered racial stereotyping (I've said it before and I'll say it again: you could have had the antagonists in that episode be a bunch of angry locals threatening people for tresspassing on their property, and the whole thing would have been 100% less gross without actually changing much of the plot. Really felt like Tim was cribbing from the similar Lone Star arc, which was also lazy and racist). Amir was a fantastic character, and while I could have done without that last scene of him offering Bobby absolution, I feel like he was generally allowed to be both gracious and rightfully angry. The cop Athena stuff in the finale was... less great, but also to be expected. I would have liked much less of that and much more time spent at Bobby's bedside.

(I'm really sad about the house fire mostly because that was one of my favorite sets, but I do appreciate the poetry of the parallel, with Bobby actually managing to get his wife out this time. Though I do wonder where Harry was that night, lmao.)

Hen was similarly wonderful. I really liked getting to see her wrestle with the responsibility of being captain, and the fallout of the car accident scene. In a vacuum, I actually like Ortiz as a villain - a complicated one, with sympathetic motivations, but still ostentatiously cruel. Were it not for the fact that there are basically NO latine characters other than Eddie who aren't villains this season, it would have been great. ALAS.

Did not love the rescue dog/foster child parallel with Mara. Otherwise really loved getting to see her settle in with the Wilsons, and I'm really glad that we got to see Chim and Maddie take her in instead of leaving her at the group home by the end of the season. Really leaned into the found family element, and Chim taking care of his best friend's child in the same way that Mrs. Lee did for him.

CHIM! Chim my beloved. 'There Goes The Groom' is the one episode that I have basically no issues with at all. The hallucinatory trip through Los Angeles, wrestling with Doug's ghost, was gorgeous. Bringing back Kevin - also gorgeous. I loved that we see the Lees explicitly framed as his real family (and am spitefully glad that his bio dad was nowhere to be found. Fuck that guy.) Kenny continues to be, IMO, the best actor on this show. He killed it. We need so many more Chim-centric episodes, because they're always SO good. He can make both humor and pathos feel so natural and human. Give us more Chim!

And of course on to Buck's bisexual arc, which was... so painfully Buck, lmao. Full disclosure: I have a lot of trouble rewatching 7x04 and 7x05 because the secondhand embarrassment is just too much for me, but objectively it feels very right and in character for him. LOVED the first kiss scene, with his dawning realization of what's about to happen and his softly stunned joy afterward. His coming out scenes with both Maddie and Eddie were lovely and perfectly appropriate to both relationships. I really liked him taking the initiative to reach out to Tommy to apologize and ask for a second chance after he fucked up their first date. Loved Tommy showing up at the hospital after what was clearly a long, miserable shift.

Their date in the finale didn't really land for me mostly because of where it was placed in the episode; if they did something with the two of them after Buck spent the entire day at Bobby's bedside waiting to see if he was going to live, it would have felt a lot more natural to me to have them exhaustedly eating takeout on the couch or something instead of having a formal sit-down date with wine and place settings. Intentionally or not, that made it feel like they're still on Date Behavior with each other and despite some gestures toward emotional vulnerability, they're not quite there yet - as seen by Buck steering the conversation back to flirting and innuendo. My overall feeling on the relationship at this point is that it's cute, but I'm not seeing any real depth of feeling between them yet.

Buck and Eddie on the other hand - look, despite my many MANY issues with Eddie's plot this season, I loved how his relationship with Buck was written. I love the intimacy and familiarity of how they are together, I loved the way Eddie let himself lean on Buck, I loved how Buck is clearly positioned as an integral part of the Diaz family.

Unfortunately, that's really the only thing I loved about Eddie's plot this season. His relationship with Marisol was ultimately pointless; she was never fleshed out enough to feel like a real character, and we never even see the fallout of Eddie's cheating with regard to her; it's all Chris. The Kim stuff strained credulity, and also I never felt like he got any kind of emotional catharsis or resolution through it; he still hasn't really confronted any of his issues about Shannon, about their marriage and how it ended. That whole arc felt really wobbly in terms of tone, as well: using plot elements of a very famous psychological thriller without actually acknowledging any of the creepiness of it. I would have liked it to lean into that more especially with the scene where Kim dresses up as Shannon, an objectively creepy and unhinged thing to do.

The Diaz parents handled the Chris thing in a selfish and opportunistic way that felt both disappointing and inevitable. Hopefully that's going to be a hook for the next season and Eddie actually confronting them, but overall Eddie's plot this season really felt like they just tossed a bunch of balls up in the air and mostly failed to catch them.

Gerrard - look, I'm not that worried about Gerrard. I could have done without him, but ultimately he's going to stick around just long enough to make his inevitable defeat satisfying. At least, that's my hope.

[bourbonificould]

Between Lee and Kenny who do you think (if it came down to it) Clem would have a better chance winning in a fight against? Love ur posts awnsering asks like these so i thought i’d submit my own!

This is probably an S tier matchup when it comes to this universe, especially since we actually get a confrontation between them.

Again, we're gonna have to assume either its still in season 1 or if its Lee given 2 more years of time.

Both Lee Everett and Kenny are proven to be two of the strongest in the entire series, both battling through injuries that most falter to (Bitten + one arm, leg injury, kneed in the face; Shot in the stomach, loss of eye and possible brain damage, beaten up)

We get to see them kinda fight in the train determinately, and I think it's safe to say that Lee is probably the more composed fighter, while Kenny is unpredictable and has great strength in his swings.

On a day where, say Duck and Clem are endangered, and the two of them start to disagree, and eventually fight, I think after a great struggle and likely some cuts and bruises, Lee would subdue Kenny and eventually win the fight, even if it meant knocking the man out. But it could go the other way too, with Ken maybe catching Lee off guard and sending the professor to sleep.

I'll say Lee wins 6 or 7 times out of 10.

[matchacowbee]

Lee Kenny Ler Kevin and his sister?

this is for you anon!! and it’s Kenny’s birthday as well! So I thought it would be fitting to draw them today!

I hope you guys enjoy this one <3333

[zombtismonmain]

my lee hc's -> mostly for comfort or just because hes my fav character but its my autism and i get to decide the character /j

Character Related

Lee is autistic and has a special interest in civil war history, as well as various media relating to historical events and had a big collection of books prior to the apocalypse - some gifted by his ex wife, some from his students.

Lee is ace

Lee's birthday is January 20, 1966 (same day/month as his voice actor), and is older than Bud by 2 years.

Lee, while not believing in horoscopes, would still read his in the paper sometimes.

Lee is ambidextrous

Had things turned out differently, Lee would of been happy to have children and if not biologically his, he wouldn't of minded fostering a few.

Lee had a dog as a kid, who was originally supposed to be a guard dog but was too friendly to everyone - so his dad had to use his cane instead.

Relationships - Familial

Lee often sees himself - and a bit of his brother - in both Clementine and Duck and is very protective as a result.

Katjaa and Lee have a respect for one another, both often talk about life prior to the apocalypse and sometimes have conversations related to Kenny or Duck.

While not a defenseless child, Lee does feel some occasional protectiveness towards Ben, but does still reprimand him when he acts cowardly - especially if it puts Clementine in danger. He hasn't fully forgiven Ben for Carley, Katjaa or Duck, even if it was indirect.

He and Omid bond over their shared love of civil war history.

Relationships - Romantic

After the apocalypse and the end of his relationship with his wife, Lee and Carley develop a somewhat romantic relationship, and the two become very close prior to Carley dying. IMO Lee fell first, Carley fell harder.

After Carley dies, and throughout the rest of the journey, I personally view Lee and Kenny having a somewhat queer romantic partner dynamic built upon relying on each other and trust they share, Lee opting to be a comforting presence for Kenny after the death of his wife and child.

Both situations, Lee does keep Clementine as a priority, which both respect. Especially in the late game, if Christa and Omid didn't take Clementine, Lee would of trusted Kenny to keep her safe and protected.

[harlsqueenzel]

What if clementine had died in season 4???

I found this edit on tik tok and went to look for an alternative ending for clem on yt and saw that they made a fanmade. I don't know but in my head it doesn't make sense that clementine survived, she literally was already transforming. if that were the case lee would have survived too, this ending is very plot hole.

Fanmade here 👇🏻

[untitled-gem]

compiling EVERYTHING we know about fionna and cake

NEWS: EPISODE 1 PREMIERED AT SAN DIEGO COMIC-CON. There are no known recordings of the episode as streaming it was not permitted, however you can check my newer post for some described details (minor spoilers warning but nothing too big!)

WE HAVE GOT A SECOND TRAILER!

There was also be a half hour panel about Fionna and Cake, which brought us A TRAILER WITH A RELEASE DATE OF AUGUST 31! Starting from this date til Sept 28th, we will get 2 episodes a week.

MORE UNDER THE CUT!

The show is aimed at a young adult audience

There will be 10 episodes, each with a length of 30 minutes (most likely 30 minutes *TV* time, meaning the true length will probably be around 22 minutes)

It will be about multiverse hopping

Fionna is older and has a job in a different universe where everyone is genderswapped + human

It will, supposedly, premier on CN Canada in fall, probably after all of the episodes have already been released in September.

Prismo seems to be involved, according to the trailer (he's also apparently in the intro sequence)

An older version of Finn is in it! (As seen in the trailer)

Gumlee is almost certainly going to be a thing (as confirmed by someone who worked on it)

The entire intro/opening sequence was described as "going inside Simon's psyche" and it ending with Fionna and cake jumping out of Prismo's time room. Please note we haven't seen the actual intro sequence yet, just the trailer.

Fionna has a slight outfit change, she no longer wears a skirt and has shorts instead.

Simon also appears to be older — and judging by Finn's age in the trailer, it's presumably because this will take place between Obsidian and Together Again.

The most recent plot synopsis states that Fionna and Cake will be coming to Simon for help. An earlier plot synopsis said that at some point, they would need to rescue him

The synopses also state that they team up with him to help stop a new threat to Ooo that is tracking Fionna and Cake down to try to erase their existence

As seen in the trailer, we will be getting Simon and Marcy flashbacks.

Fionna's sword in the snippet also may have something to do with Ice Thing, as it has a pretty similar design

Cake's eye color has been changed to blue

According to Tom Kenny, recording Simon's lines for this was "the most emotional thing he's ever done"

Adam Muto is returning as showrunner

Hanna K Nyström, Jack Pendarvis, and Steve Wolfhard also return for this

The credits(?) theme of the series is the song that can be heard in the trailer

According to an attendee, a middle-aged Finn also appears in one of the episodes (as learned from a clip shown at the panel, also unavailable as of right now) and also says a light swear

This is most likely in the same clip as one where Simon is fishing and accidentally catches a monster, and Finn having to save him

Rebecca Sugar has returned to write two original songs for the series

It seems like Donald Glover is returning as Marshall Lee's VA!

According to Adam Muto, this show takes place about 12 years after Come Along With Me, making both Finn and Fionna around 29+

Jake gets shown a bit in the series, most likely as a flashback

Tree Trunks also gets a bit of screentime

Lumpy Space Prince/Princess is confirmed to still be voiced by Pen Ward

Adam Muto says they they don't know what a season 2 would look like, but it wouldn't be off the table

There will be a vampire episode (which will probably be where Marceline comes in)

The unknown enemy of the series might be the unfamiliar face we can see in this poster, between Marceline and Ice King:

NOTE AS OF THE NEW TRAILER: I will not be updating this post anymore. If I have any theories surrounding the new stuff we saw, I will be putting those into a separate post. The show premieres in 2 weeks!

[cracklyy]

In the Duck lives AU, does Kat get bitten instead? If so, how does this change the train scene? Does Lee still have to convince Kenny to stop the train? Who would stop Kat from turning?

Yes, in AU they bite Katjaa instead of Duck. Duck is with his mother all the time, but later Katjaa becomes very ill and she realizes that she cannot continue like this. She asks Lee and Duck to persuade Kenny to stop the train. While Duck hugs his dad in tears, Chuck, Katjaa and Clem remain in the carriage. Clem sits to the side and looks out the open door of the carriage. Chuck comes up to Katjaa with a gun, puts it next to her with the words "it's time to deal with this for a long time. Either you do it yourself, or someone from the group will have to," and Chuck approaches Clem to distract her with a conversation. At this time, Katjaa shoots herself in the head without hesitation.