#liu qingge and his A+ teaching methods

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✨Headcanon✨

LQG knows how to run on all fours and it's fucking terrifying. He learnt it from a Shixiong, who was just messing with him, however it was incredibly useful in Sloping and Rocky terrains.

Sometimes he Chases his disciples like that so they know the thrill of getting chased by a beast/hj

the first time I saw this pop up in my inbox snorted so loud in public

[teufelsabbiss]

Story-idea: Shizun only wants what's in your head

Crack pairs FTW! How about some Shizun/Shifu action?

OG!Shěn Qīngqiū/Meng Mo

This will be unrequited Luò Bīnghé/OG!Shěn Qīngqiū, just so you're warned, no relationship for the protagonist there.

Shěn Qīngqiū knew very early where his tastes lie with certainty. Attractive older men are his weakness, not that he ever could indulge this particular craving.

Wu Yanzi wasn't interested, which was probably for the best, but still disappointing. While the things he said to him after the Qiu massacre were hurtful and made Shen Jiu resentful, the bitterness was directed towards Qiu Janluo instead of his new master. Wu Yanzi just told him what's what after all. But afterwards he was surprisingly nice to be around a lot of the time. Sure, he taught him to rob (more than he already could), fight dirty (more effectively than he was already able to), kill and didn't actually teach him much cultivation (at least not the righteous path), but he was not really cruel to Shen Jiu. Shen Jiu was aware enough that the man would kill him, if he made trouble and was disobedient. But Wu Yanzi, for all his faults, knew that one can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. In this story, that's another thing he taught Shen Jiu and that will change things significantly.

This friendliness was deceitful and Shen Jiu knew. It still made him feel good, though. Wu Yanzi was not youthful as most cultivators, he looked to be in his mid-fifties, his demonic cultivation did not grant him immortality. But he was still attractive. All of this combined with horny teenager hormones made Shen Jiu drool over his master often enough. He was still more than ready to kill him for Yue Qi, though.

Wu Yanzi's teachings have helped him a lot over the years. Not with his cultivation, sadly. He is, however, very good with honey-coating his words to hide the poison. Guilt-tripping is another thing he's good at. Yuè Qīngyuán spilled his shame-filled, guilt-riddled secrets after barely a week. His brother truly is an idiot. His reckless, too gentle idiot, but still an idiot!

There were a lot of nasty rumors about Shen Jiu having seduced his way into the Qing Jing peak lord's good graces. None of that was true and Shen Jiu resented the gossip even more for the fact that his shizun would forever be a wet dream and nothing more.

His shizun was a dream. He was kind and full of warmth and had let himself age to a point were he looked to be in his late sixties to reflect his readiness to ascend to the next realm. Shen Jiu fell for him very hard almost immediately and his need to sleep anywhere but the dorms was not only because he wasn't comfortable surrounded by other men, but also because of his frequent wet dreams about his shizun.

Most mortal men in town are bland or ugly and immortals almost always look too young. With the exception of the Huan Hua palace master that is. But this particular man, while superficially polite, seems to dislike him, so no luck there either.

Fast forward, now he has Luò Bīnghé as disciple, a brat with an infuriatingly outstanding talent and entirely too little brains. It's almost as if he got himself a mini Liǔ Qīnggē, except that this one is also still a pushover. Teaching the little beast will be quite the challenge.

His method of dealing with the boy is a mixture of sweetly concealed insults mixed with a bit of encouragement and harsh training, as well as strict punishments for every small failure. A bit of gaslighting on the side, too. It's vexing as well as amusing for him to see Luò Bīnghé struggle to make sense of everything, only to succeed more than expected.

Then Shěn Qīngqiū goes into seclusion in the Lingxi caves. He manages to save Liu Qingge. Shěn Qīngqiū has learned how to subdue and treat someone who's experiencing a qi-deviation from Mu Qingfang. Just in case something bad might happen to Yuè Qīngyuán again. It was also very good to learn for his own shaky foundation and his regular pitfalls.

Absence makes the heart grow fonder, they say. It seems to be true in Luò Bīnghé's case, because when Shěn Qīngqiū returns, he seems disgustingly excited to see his shizun again. He's even proud to be pitted against the demon elder during the invasion. Foolish boy, but very useful.

Then Shěn Qīngqiū is dragged into the dream realm with Luo Binghe. It's really annoying, especially because his disciple repeatedly fails to listen to his advice.

And then they meet Meng Mo.

The elder dream demon is pretty much the embodiment of Shěn Qīngqiū's dirty fantasies. And while Luò Bīnghé doesn't notice, Shěn Qīngqiū's desire is glaringly obvious to the demon elder. While Meng Mo generally hates humans and cultivators in particular, Shěn Qīngqiū' is interesting to him's reaction is rather intriguing. And it has Been. A. While. for Meng Mo, so why not have a little fun?

He sends Binghe into a deep sleep, then turns his full attention on Shen Qingqiu. The shared private dreamscape turns into something truly debauched...

Bīnghé is more infatuated with his shizun as well after his help in the dream realm. He's also very happy to hear that his shizun thinks not all demons are bad.

Actually Shen Qingqiu tells him that humans are just as evil as demons, there's not much difference, but Binghe misinterprets this. He offers to cook for his shizun and is overjoyed to have made a good enough impression to be allowed to move into the spare room beside the bamboo house. He vows to learn hard on Qing Jing peak and from Meng Mo as well to be able to protect his shizun. And to hopefully be one day worthy to court him.

In truth, Shěn Qīngqiū made him move into the spare room to have him close enough that Meng Mo is in range. It's obviously also best to treat the host of his lover well. While Bīnghé is training and dreams of a happy future with his shizun, said shizun is shagging his dream demon teacher in their own shared dreamscape. They briefly talk about Meng Mo changing hosts, but grudgingly agree that it's too risky. As a peak lord, Shen Qingqiu could be scrutinized more closely any time and both aren't sure carrying a dream demon around wouldn't catch the other peak lord's eyes. Luò Bīnghé, as a mere disciple, is far less likely to attract attention. At least for the time being.

Meng Mo is making fun of Liǔ Qīnggē's attempts at being friendly. He points out that the offerings of monster carcasses and frequent asks for sparring is more akin to demon courting than anything he ever saw from humans before. Weird, because the guy is fully human, Meng Mo checked. The last bit is a relief for Shěn Qīngqiū. He hopes that means the brute isn't actually trying to woo him all of a sudden and just has weird ideas about what constitutes as good gifts. Although, to be fair, the monster flesh is good for cultivation and make better gifts than he initially wanted to admit.

The disastrous Alliance Conference comes up. Bīnghé engages a Moon-Python-Rhinoceros, even though Shěn Qīngqiū orders him not to and the Endless Abyss opens. His seal breaks and Shěn Qīngqiū has a frantic conversation with Meng Mo, half past Bīnghé's head/mind, with Shěn Qīngqiū talking aloud and Meng Mo speaking in Shěn Qīngqiū's mind.

Shěn Qīngqiū asks whether he can conceal his demonic nature, to which Bīnghé and Meng Mo simultaneously answer no. Hiding him away until they are at Qing Jing again won't work until he learns how to conceal his nature on his own. Meng Mo tells Shen Qingqiu he will try to convince Bīnghé to jump into the Abyss to train, since he's reasonably sure he will survive there. Shěn Qīngqiū on the other hand wants Meng Mo to convince Bīnghé and then abandon him to stay in his mind instead, but inadvertently phrases it so that Bīnghé misunderstands that his shizun doesn't want him to leave because he doesn't want to lose him. Then they hear people call out close-by and Shěn Qīngqiū emphatically says to quickly come back to him and that he'll wait for him (meaning Meng Mo, obviously), then pushes Bīnghé into the Abyss.

Bīnghé is deeply confused why his beloved shizun threw him into the Abyss, if he doesn't want him to die. And he clearly doesn't, since he told him to come back! But why then? Meng Mo tells him that the other cultivators would've killed him on sight, obviously. He doesn't correct Bīnghé in his believe Shěn Qīngqiū meant Bīnghé with his last statements. It's not really a lie. After all, Bīnghé needs to return for Meng Mo to get back. He fails to notice that Bīnghé grows more and more determined to court Shěn Qīngqiū once he's back.

Cang Qiong is concerned. Everyone thinks Shěn Qīngqiū of all people mourns his disciple and most are weirded out by the change. Liǔ Qīnggē is more convinced he misunderstood his former rival's character. He and Yuè Qīngyuán try to cheer him up. Shěn Qīngqiū couldn't care less about Bīnghé, but is worried for Meng Mo.

Three years later Bīnghé comes back to Cang Qiong and proposes to his shizun. Shěn Qīngqiū and Meng Mo are both flabbergasted. Shěn Qīngqiū repeats his offer of being his host. Meng Mo actually leaves Bīnghé's mind and takes his lover's offer.

Bīnghé is surprised, then hurt and then absolutely furious. He tries to fight and kidnap his shizun and is met with the combined force of Yuè Qīngyuán, Liǔ Qīnggē, Shěn Qīngqiū and Meng Mo against him. He has to give up in the end, frustrated and heartbroken.

Yes, poor Binghe, no loving shizun to be found this time. I think it'll be funny, though.

[lilnasxvevo]

Okkkk but svsss ATLA AU where each peak specializes in something different

Four of the peaks specialize in teaching its disciples to master the element that peak specializes in, using the traditional methods used for that element; other peaks specialize in a traditional element but teaches their disciples how to wield that element in an unexpected way to keep their opponents on their toes; still other peaks choose to specialize in One Of The Weird Ones like lightning-bending or metal-bending. There is constant mostly-friendly beef between peaks based on differences in bending philosophies—for instance, the peak lord from the peak that believes that the most effective way to wield airbending is to master the techniques passed down for countless generations is always down to spar with the peak lord whose peak specializes in incorporating techniques from traditional water- and firebending into airbending.

Qing Jing is actually the non-traditional airbending peak, which I say because of Shen Qingqiu’s canonical Thousand Leaves attack. Yue Qingyuan’s peak is traditional waterbending with a focus on combat, while Mu Qingfang’s peak is traditional waterbending with a focus on healing.

I think Liu Qingge’s peak Bai Zhan would have to be a firebender peak, maybe with aspects of earthbending worked in—seems only right for Cang Qiong’s “demolitions expert.” It could also be the other way around, but I think mixing these two elements together is perfect for Liu Qingge’s fighting style that relies a surprising amount on how fucking fast he is mixed with his blunt personality and the fact that he canonically tends to “open” doors by kicking them down.

Luo Binghe, of course, is the Avatar. Because Luo Binghe has to be the universe’s most specialest little guy always.

[jade-len]

before i say anything, i would just like to say that i definitely agree with many of your points; that abuse was normal back then, that liu qingge beating the shit out of his students is NOT a good method of teaching, justice being a scale, and that luo bingge is an awful, cruel person who went above and beyond for revenge.

while i know the main point of your post is that luo bingge wasn't "cool" for "taking revenge" (which i also agree with... because bingge, holy shit), at least to me, it feels like you're slightly dismissing how shen jiu was also cruel to luo binghe. i do see that you already acknowledge that abuse is abuse, yes, but fail to mention that shen jiu specifically went out of his way to exclude and abuse luo binghe, a child who didn't do anything. he wasn't just mean to everyone (excluding ning yingying). there is a difference between just being mean and being horrifically cruel, just like how there's also a difference between wanting justice and being cruel.

lets be honest: in ancient china, there was nothing wrong with a teacher physically abusing a student. it was common even. im not saying its okay but it HAPPENED and A LOT. for gods sake, it was normal in my country to teachers beat students until the 90s! even after that!

yes, definitely! it wasn't okay but it did happen a lot. but, i believe you forgot to mention that yue qingyuan himself thought the punishments to be too far. in the first chapter, yue qingyuan literally tells his xiao-jiu this, and he lets him get away with everything! if he, a guilt-ridden man (or even any authority back then who wouldn't blink an eye at ancient china abuse!) even slightly goes, "uh.. hey, i know you don't like him but aren't you being too harsh..?" it's a pretty big deal.

"Yue Qingyuan sighed. "I know you don't like him. But that child's already worked hard enough, and he hasn't made any significant mistakes. Don't punish him any further, all right?"" - Chapter 1: Scum

pouring boiling hot tea on a child upon first contact? giving a preteen a false cultivation manual that could literally kill him? having luo binghe's peers actively group against him?

"He always found new ways to taunt and demean Luo Binghe, even enlisting the boy's peers to belittle him. Throughout these years of studying, Luo Binghe endured every humiliation. It was another heart-wrenching arc in his story, filled with blood and tears." - Chapter 1: Scum

this could just be shen yuan over exaggerating and being a bingge stan, but he is the oh so infamous peerless cucumber who has everything memorized despite being an unreliable narrator when he goes through the action himself. the whole thing with him is that he's so familiar with PIDW so well to the point he's blinded by it, unable to see the new storyline SVSSS offers.

im not saying shen jiu was right, or what he did a good thing, because it wasnt. abuse is always abuse, and it should be treated as it is. but lets take Bai Zhan Peak as an example. Liu Qingge beat the shit out of his disciples, and no one batted an eye

i believe the reason why no one really batts an eye at liu qingge beating his disciples is because he, while it is still child abuse and not at all a good teaching method or teacher, wasn't specifically cruel to one or a couple of kids. to him, i'm sure it was a teaching method to him. beat up a couple of little brats and they'll learn how to fight, surely (hey, i could be wrong! we never get liu qingge's pov, but i genuinely believe this is what he thought based on just watching how his character works). shen jiu wanted to torment and outright kill luo binghe.

plus, shen jiu is known to be a cruel and lecherous teacher (yes, i know the lecherous part is false, but the cruel part isn't). what does that say about him, when even this xianxia world with slaves and horrible abusive punishments thinks that?

but thats not my point right now, my point is: Luo Bingge was not "cool" for "taking revenge" cause what he did was not revenge, it was pure CRUELTY

it would be revenge if he hit shen jiu with a whip several times. it would be revenge if he made him do forced domestic work. it would be revenge, if he made him go through the same suffering that shen qingqiu put him through in the abyss

like i said earlier, i do agree that luo bingge wasn't cool or anything for taking revenge.

but, everyone has different viewpoints on what exactly revenge is. you may see revenge as a scale, but luo bingge sees it in a more twisted, crueler way. just because he's heinously cruel with it doesn't mean it isn't revenge.

Revenge: the action of inflicting hurt or harm on someone for an injury or wrong suffered at their hands.

now, to clear things up a bit more, i am in no way saying this to try and defend bingge and i don't believe you should like him or whatever. everyone has their own opinions, hate him, love him, whatever! but, i do wish for what he went through to be thoroughly recognized. just like how i wish for shen jiu's struggles to be recognized as well. hurt people hurt other people.

it's horrible what luo bingge did. he brought everyone down, not just shen jiu. but to him, in his sick way of what he believes is fair, that is perfectly acceptable revenge. that is the only way he can (unhealthily) cope with the abuse he went through.

maybe to you it's not equal. that a couple of whips should do it, or throwing shen jiu down into the abyss.

but luo binghe does think it is. the bottled rage has been building up for years, and he cannot let go of it until he throws it up on shen jiu and everyone else who has ever wronged him. those lonely nights at the shed as a scared, confused child. being discarded as a disgusting mix of human and demon. his first time of intimacy being with someone (qin wanyue) who basically coerce raped him. the knowledge that shen jiu, this almighty cultivator who he so desperately looked up to and forgave and made excuses for time and time again as a lonely child didn't care about him at all? to the point the man outright just wanted to kill him? how can he possible make shen jiu understand how he felt? his pain? betrayal? misery?

so, luo bingge destroys everything shen jiu has, and ultimately, him as well. but it doesn't help. because no matter what, shen jiu will never understand. and it continues and continues, the misery and incompleteness. the suffering and emptiness. to the point where luo bingge throws away all his hard work in the bingge vs bingmei extra just so that the void from meaningless vengeance can be filled with love instead.

that doesn't excuse anything luo bingge did though. he's a murderer, a manipulative womanizer, a rapist, a selfish man-child who can't let go of the past and move on because his rage is the only thing that keeps him warm. like you said, luo bingge is a horrible, disgustingly cruel monster who can only live with the blood of his enemies on his claws and pumping through his veins. he only proves shen jiu right in the end (but, obviously this doesn't mean what shen jiu did to him was right and that just because someone turns out to be a terrible person, what they went through as a child shouldn't be used against them or justified, like "oh, well they did this so what they went through was completely deserved!").

and, i'm sure someone out there in PIDW is planning to do the exact same thing to luo binghe as luo bingge did to shen jiu.

luo bingge and shen jiu are both tragically horrific characters. abusers. the products of the cycle of abuse. cruel in their own ways, but ultimately parallels with their own twisted morals and ways they see the world. they are fascinating and i want to put them under a microscope as they rip each other's faces off. i personally actually love both of them and their little fucked up shit they have going on. i would've done the same explaining shen jiu's whole thing if this post seemed dismissive of luo binghe's actions and cruelty against him.

all in all, again, i know that the point of your post was that, but to me, the way you worded some things comes off as dismissive to the horrific treatment luo binghe suffered through/shen jiu's actions and character. i don't believe "bad" can be measured, since everyone has different ways of scaling. to someone else, they may think that stealing is just as bad as smacking someone. they may think that murder is wrong no matter the situation, even if it was self defense.

but, i could be wrong about your intention with that! i'm not you, i can only come to my own conclusions based on what i read. i hope you know that this wasn't meant to attack you or anything of that sort. i really do agree with the general gist of this post. while i don't really see people exactly praising luo bingge for what he did like you, it would definitely unnerve and disgust me if i saw people doing that as well. and, apologies for the long reblog

i think i finally understand why i hate luo bingge so much

i usually love the kind of character he is: vengeful, merciless, villainous. im all the way down for villains with a reason for them to be evil (and if you think bingge is anything BUT a villain, youre wrong). but i didnt felt that way toward bingge. and that really bothered me

there is a very thin line between revenge and cruelty. but its still there. and bingge crossed that line

that 👇👇 is the best way i could explain the difference

lets be honest: in ancient china, there was nothing wrong with a teacher physically abusing a student. it was common even. im not saying its okay but it HAPPENED and A LOT. for gods sake, it was normal in my country to teachers beat students until the 90s! even after that!

im not saying shen jiu was right, or what he did a good thing, because it wasnt. abuse is always abuse, and it should be treated as it is. but lets take Bai Zhan Peak as an example. Liu Qingge beat the shit out of his disciples, and no one batted an eye

but thats not my point right now, my point is: Luo Bingge was not "cool" for "taking revenge" cause what he did was not revenge, it was pure CRUELTY

!!Spoiler alert!!

it would be revenge if he hit shen jiu with a whip several times. it would be revenge if he made him do forced domestic work. it would be revenge, if he made him go through the same suffering that shen qingqiu put him through in the abyss

but no.

he made the entire cultivation world see sqq again as nothing more than the slave he was, he ripped off shen jiu's legs and arms, he tortured him for god knows how much time, he let his wives torture him, he destroyed the ENTIRE sect that had nothing to do with it, and he killed the only person shen qingqiu really cared about

and dont get me started on how he destroyed earth by bringing together the demonic and human worlds

lets use a metaphor for better understanding: theres a perfectly balanced scale between you, and every other person. And when someone hurts you, theres this natural desire to push back. To seek justice. To bring those scales back into balance. But when you do the other side of the scale never dipped below the balancing point

and thats not what bingge wanted. he didnt want the scale to be equal

because even if things were restored exactly to the way they were before, shen jiu would never knew what bingge felt like

he would never be brought down. And THATS what bingge wanted

he didnt wanted justice for what shen jiu did to him. he didnt wanted revenge either. he wanted to be cruel

he turned into a monster

and that make me sick

i honestly cant stand seeing people praising bingge as if he was a good person for doing what he did

[shinebrightlikeanarwhal]

I don’t really know if I should say this but... here we go.

Please don’t glorify a tyrant.

Luo Binghe suffered greatly. But his actions were still awful. He chose cheap tricks to kill people off if he didn’t like them. Murdered innocent children and people who had nothing to do with his abuse. If he took his frustrations out on Shen QingQiu that makes sense. But the entire sect did not wrong him.

However, Shen QingQiu is the only person that gave him a mercy ‘killing’ despite the years of abuse he put the boy through. Bai Zhan and many other peaks would not have just stabbed him and pushed him into the abyss. Where demons could survive. The others, particularly Liu Qingge would have had no qualms presenting his head to the other sects with the demon mark gleaming at them.

Let’s also not forget, SQQ was isolated from other peak lords. The only cuck that dared to approach and do nothing about his treatment of disciples was YQY. He’s useless through and through, aiding in the creation of SQQ’s terrible treatment of disciples.

The only sympathy I can give SQQ is his lack of knowledge. He was never in a conventional discipleship until he was much older. Before then hes been a slave and following a demonic cultivator who canonically was not safe. His treatment of Bing more than likely mirrors his own treatment because Bing was relentless in his pursuit to do better. While jealousy is a gross excuse for his actions, it makes sense why he did some of the things he did. He’s terrible to Binghe specifically though which doesn’t add up but honestly SQH made many mistakes starting with not following the original plot and making a half assed story of a vengeful brat with a god complex and penis fro brain.

TLDR;

SQQ is awful yes. He has his reasons for it. I don’t condone his treatment of Binghe. Binghe is also awful. He killed many innocent children who never even knew his name. Made convoluted schemes instead of addressing his old shizun head on just to cause more unnecessary damage to people who relatively have no idea who he is.

Both are bad for valid reasons but it’s all SQH’s fault.

[touchmycoat]

Oh I love the transformed into a kid trope - it's so much easier to be affectionate with a kid and I love it when it's a reversal and the strong protector is the one vulnerable. Do you have headcanons about what LQG was like as a kid?

YES ME TOO!! goodness, baby Qingge. Not to get dramatic but I think whatever his non-courtesy name is, specifically the character(s), would really influence his personality. I remember pondering this question (being 98% sure that he doesn't have a canon little name right???) and looking up chengyu for fun characters to use. Then I found Yǒng (from 吟花詠柳 and 詠桑寓柳) and being like omg, this is perfect, it means recitation, is linked to Liu/willow in a lot of literary ways, and would give an explanation for why his courtesy name gets Ge/song. Then I went, wait a minute, that sounds kind of familiar. SURE ENOUGH, Liu Yong is exactly the name the Incomparable Feynite's given LQG, though someone with a stronger memory should tell me if Feynite's ever given the exact character. I'd really lose my mind if it's 詠.

(by the same principle, maybe Liu Mingyan's small name is Liu Li, 笠 as in a farmer's straw hat, from 煙蓑雨笠, meaning to hide your identity and live a carefree life MISS PSEUDONYM)

So, Liu Qingge, small name Liu Yong, A-Yong, Yong-er. His parents get to be cute sometimes and call him Huahua 'cause yin hua yong liu. Growing up, he doesn't say much but not in an icy way. He's big brother, so a lot of principles about right and wrong get instilled in him. One of his parents though, is a little bit of a Fucker and likes to complicate his right/wrong binary, and as a kiddo, Yong-er would frown and think about a philosophical quandary for hours. You can totally distract him by sending him out to do physical tasks, but as he sweeps the grounds or re-thatches the shooting targets, you'll see his little brow start to pucker again as motion becomes rote and questions start forming again.

He's clever! It's just that all of his process is internal. Not that he needs to be alone to sort things out, it's just that he only ever verbalizes conclusions.

I don't think he was a prodigy right out the gate. I think he was really good at discipline and followed all dojo protocol, all martial rituals to a tee. He learned things point-by-point in a pretty mulish manner and sometimes fell behind other students because he couldn't let one unmastered thing go, because he couldn't move on without figuring it out.

(In comparison, LMY began her training with a lot more tendency toward creative flourish. LMY's journey was about learning the discipline while LQG had to find himself in the discipline.)

A-Yong was active all over the place, but as time went on, he began devoting a lot of his energy to martial arts & cultivation (in canon-verse). He started to win fights but also to lose them. Thanks to his parents, he's a very methodical problem-solver, and first approaches the problem in terms of "Oh, I'm not fast/strong/sharp/flexible enough" and works hard to improve those. But when that doesn't do the trick, he asks his other parent, who asks him in turn what he notices when he spars with LMY. Genius, is the first word he throws out because it's what he hears a lot, but both himself and his parent frowns because that's not concrete, and therefore not useful. Creative is what he says next. Parent tells him agreed. So what does it take to be creative?

Yong-er is both a smart cookie and very, very self-determined. he does trust and rely on his family to a degree, so consults them. A-Li says she finds it fun. Brother says I find it fun too and Sister says no, you like it, but you don't do it for fun. He asks his other parent who says when is Hua-er creative?

Liu Yong comes to the conclusion that "creative" can be applied to him, just in a definition closer to "creation" than Liu Li's "creative." And Liu Yong creates when he speaks. After immense gravitas of thought, he speaks his answer, and sometimes, parents and other adults express surprise at what he's determined. The answer to taking his martial skills to the next level (to elevate them to the point of martial artistry) would, then, be to run all the skills and moves he knows through his own reckoning. What does he truly think of them? How does he judge them?

That first time he takes all he knows and processes them through himself, he comes out a new man. His martial arts has notably ascended, and he's cracked through that barrier of creativity to completely take ownership of his form and body. He's comfortable forming his own moves on the spot, reactive and sharp and disciplined all at once.

(The internal processing is also where his qi deviations happen. Not that it's overly common with him or anything, but when there are mental and spiritual blockages, his mulish tendency to not move on bites him in the ass. He catches on something and doesn't move past it, determined to untangle it, which stifles his qi flow and fucks him up.)

In terms of mannerisms, I think he really hasn't changed much. He's still intently serious and action-oriented. He's still fairly gullible. He takes after Frowny Parent (the one he goes to first with martial issues) in subtle stickiness—he's not overtly social but in his downtime, he prefers to just be doing things in the same space as people he loves and trusts. He used to toddle after Frowny Parent all the time like a little tail; Smiley Parent (the one who's a little bit of a Fucker) likes to quietly gesture Frowny Parent out of the room, sit them in some other room to do some other thing, and see how long it takes for Yong-er to follow and find them. It's like playing hide-and-seek with the kid without even letting him know they're playing.

True to his name, Yong-er does really regal recitations. Not intentionally, but he comes off super dignified and his pacing is superb. Frowny Parent gives him classic poems to memorize and recite, Smiley Parent teaches him bastardized versions with one or two lines changed to really flip the whole meaning of the poem. Parents have Yong-er run back and forth reciting poetry and songs as combative flirtation. A-Yong knows the Adults Are Doing Something, but is a dutiful son who obeys instructions regardless.

A-Yong and Xiao Li get on very well, despite the difference in their ages. When Xiao Li was just learning to walk, parents said once, pretty casually, "watch out for your sister," and A-Yong took that to the very core of his being. For a long time, A-Yong would set Xiao Li down in the middle of a field with a bunch of toys and things, and just sit with his legs crossed not to far away to watch over her. He's a super serious kid, and once, when Smiley Parent lightly suggests that he doesn't have to sacrifice his own fun to watch A-Li, Yong-er just looks up confused. Sure, he's not having fun, but whatever, he likes watching over his baby sister just fine. He doesn't need to "have fun" when he can be doing this.

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More babies for my otps! Scum Villain Edition!

BingQiu:

Now, I have two backstories for their children. One is in an ABO verse, but the other is canon verse. The canonverse one involves LBH and SQQ deciding to have children together. (Well....more like LBH starts getting all wistful whenever they are around children which reminds SQQ of how, though Bingge was never a very present father for his many children...he did love them. And he was always ecstatic to find out he was going to have another, and when he did spend time with them, he enjoyed being around them Airplane didn’t think readers would find children very interesting once they were born and it made him realize that that is still part of who Binghe is and he’d still want a family)

SQQ hated himself for it, but he asked the system for methods to have a child with LBH, and discovered a plant known as the Frog Pomegranate (not to be confused with the Pomegranate Frog, apparently). The interesting thing is....the plant is relatively normal (!!!???) until a specific ritual is done, after which point consuming the seeds of the fruit (and papapaing of course) will guarantee conception (if it wasn’t in such a stupidly remote area...it only grows on a rocky mountainside, on almost a 90 degree slope, far from human civilization, it would probably be extremely popular as a fertility aid!) Of course it turns out the ritual to make the fruit magical requires a *ahem* gift for the tree (and SQQ went alone!). SQQ ended up gathering an armful of the magical fruit, to bring them back to Mu Qingfang. Surely he’d have a use for it!

The result is triplets.

The first child to be born is their oldest daughter Shuilu (”Light Green”) she highly resembles SQQ, and you can really only tell LBH is her father if you have them both together. Otherwise her silky smooth hair and seafoam green eyes are all SQQ. She grows up an independent but helpful child. Able to care for herself young, but always mimicking her parents. Wanting to “work” with them (trying to imitate them doing paperwork, or help LBH cook). She grows up the very image of a princess. Elegant and polite and hardworking and diplomatic. LBH and her have a very special bond and while most tend to favour his son as his heir....privately? He favours her.

The second child is their son: Shuanghu (”Frost Tiger”). He actually resembles Tianlang-Jun quite a lot, though like his father his hair begins to curl as a teenager. He is very much the tsundere type, a bit proud, a fierce warrior since he was young (he often trains with Liu Qingge who had always been a part of his and his sisters’ lives), however he doesn’t get along well with his father. He’s very loyal to him (something a few would be conspirators learn the hard way) because he does love him (LBH is never anything but good to him, just a bit strict and not as bad as LQG is!) they just clash personality wise. Like his father, however, he’s very popular with women...he’s just not very good at expressing himself lol.

The third child is another little girl. She was born so tiny and delicate that even MQF wasn’t certain if she would make it. After a lot of TLC from SQQ, A-Zhen (one character, and it means “to receive blessings in a sincere spirit”). She’s the most even mix between her parents, even inheriting both their signature features: SQQ’s green eyes and LBH’s curly hair. She’s Baba’s special baby, and...admittedly he kinda spoils her a bit. She’s a bit shy and clingy...and a bit of a crybaby. That’s not to say she’s useless! She’s the child with the second closest connection to her 1/4 demon heritage (after her brother. Her sister barely has any such connection and relies entirely on regular cultivation) She simply is mostly a pacifist.

In addition to their three biological children, LBH and SQQ end up rescuing a lot of street children which they teach, and love as their own children.

BONUS: Moshang!

SQH and MBJ have a son a few years after the Bingqiu Triplets are born.

The choice was kinda pressured, and SQH really didn’t think he was really ready to be a parent...but they were basically being told either they have a child, or MBJ will have to take a second (female) spouse in order to have an heir or more. MBJ would obviously have vetoed that with extreme prejudice, but SQH didn’t want to be more unpopular than he already is.

At birth, he is named Fengying (Wind Shadow). SQH, slightly uncertain on how the Lang/Jun suffixes work in this scenario (he’s the heir...but he’s also a half demon?) at first gives him the suffix “-Lang” but MBJ scolds him for trying to deny their son his inheritance. As per tradition, he is called Fengying alone until he’s a teenager, when he officially becomes Fengying-Jun. If/when his father can no longer rule, he will take the name of Mobei-Jun, as his father did. (Random headcanon: MBJ’s given name is actually Ji “Sharp/Fierce or To Incite” and Lin “to tremble in fear or shiver with cold” but also “imposing, cold, austere, majestic, stern, etc” however due to sharing that last character with his Uncle, no one, not even SQH is permitted to call him Jilin-Jun) 

He’s on the short side for an Ice demon, only 6′2 as opposed to his father being between 7-8), he only leans ever so slightly to his demon side, his father’s sharp features being softened by SQH’s human side. Making him slightly more delicate looking (SQH wonders if being so pretty might be a half demon trait now, rather than specific to LBH). He retains most of his demonic features: icy blue-white skin, pale eyes, black hair frosted with white when healthy and pure black when ill, sharp ears (though his are rounder than normal), and a low body temperature, though his is higher than standard. Leading some to be concerned he’s running a fever. He does however, lack his father’s sharp teeth.

His personality is intelligent and he’s pretty skilled with his demon magic considering he’s only half...and he inherited resting bitch face from his father...but he’s actually pretty shy, which he never properly grows out of. He’s even gentle and merciful, which a lot of his father’s court consider an embarrassment, and clearly SQH’s fault. (poor boy has a lot of pressure on him, might have anxiety)

He develops romantic feelings for Luo Zhen, despite her being older than him. And his courtship methods are very human.

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Lovely. I operate with the premise that I can be the love interest and I am not going in between any of the ships or have to listen about past lovers.

Mobei Jun. Would give me a coat, bc cold. But I don't really want to stay in his ice palace. I like reading about it, but I love plants more. Pass.

Shang Qinghua. His work frustrates me. Hidden perv. Horney on main. Pass.

Liu Qingge. I would have chosen him but I do wanna talk with my lover u know? It's kinda hard when he runs away all the time. Plus his teaching methods? His students need a hug. Pass.

Yue Qingyuan. Kind. Strong. No communication skills. Keeps secrets vital for the relationship to work. Pass.

Sha Hualing. Can't keep up with her. Kills me on accident perheps. Or it was intentional bc I am boring. Pass.

Zhuzhi Lang. Baby boy. Baby. But also too shy. Like. Why are you looking away? Where are you going? Sigh. Pass.

Tianlang Jun. H O R N E Y O N M A I N. Pass.

The System. Do I look like a trembling M? Hell to the no. PASS.

Gonyi Xiao. A Lou Binghe 2.0. Yes. Kind. Strong. Can cook and clean right? Communication skills!! Wouldn't do stuff I don't want him to do. Date.