#logain

[theoraclej]

álvaro morte is brilliant, fucking brilliant, as logain ablar

[jackoshadows]

They look like they are at a resort having breakfast in their bathrobes....

[aarongoldenwrites]

Warden Elissa “Sparrow” Cousland, Chapter 3: Alistair

Elissa has had two experiences with mages at this point in her life: the time that they healed her, and the time the templars told her not to talk with the mages maybe an hour before this moment. She likes mages and is curious about magic – the fear she had driven into her as a child has been questioned since she lost her faith in the Chantry when she lived on the streets of Denerim, and she's distrustful of Templars in general.

So Alistair making fun of mages but treating them like people while also making it clear that he likes them over the Templars or the Chantry? This was a good, if complicated, first impression.

Alistair came across as funny and a little hurt. Both of them were shy trying to figure one another out, but they were also quickly cracking jokes with one another about a wide variety of topics. The two were fast friends, which makes what happened later all the more tragic.

There are some that speculate that Alistair kept using lyrium to use the skills he used in his Templar training, which flies in the face of a simple truth: Alistair was taken from the Templar order before they could give him his first dose of lyrium. Nonetheless, he can use Templar skills as if he were on the dust, leading to speculation that he was obtaining lyrium illegally from somewhere.

The truth is much stranger.

Sparrow and Alistair would eventually reclaim a place called Soldier's Peak, a largely abandoned Warden fortress, and would plan much of her campaign against Logain and the Blight from there. Among the wreckage was found a mage named Avernus, an old Warden who had been researching ways to distill and expand the benefits granted by the Joining.

Carefully (very carefully) collected research secretly obtained from Avernus revealed that the taint was able to take the place of lyrium when it came to powering Alistair's anti-magic capabilities. Further research revealed that Alistair's bloodline had been further altered in the distant past by some unknown process, granting him powers beyond mere humans or even other Wardens.

Alistair and Elissa famously had something of an affair that started and Lothering and ended sometime after events in Redcliffe. Elissa went off to Orzammar and left Alistair to handle things at Soldier's Peak, with the given reason at the time being that they did not want to keep both surviving Wardens in one location; the truth, however, appears to be that the two needed time away from one another.

Alistair spent this time rebuilding a lot of his noble ties. His heroic actions at Redcliffe and Haven percolated through the Redcliffe knights, and the secret of his birthright began to move through the men – the story of a secret prince galvanized the forces of Redcliffe, and the Arl of Recliffe was more than comfortable to take advantage of Alistair's heritage.

The question that neither Elissa or Alistair have ever answered is what caused the break-up between the two. They remained and remain friends, and were still joking with one another as early as their return to Denerim. Alistair was furious when Elissa effectively forced him to become king, and paid her back by giving her Vigil's Keep – but this was the sort of fury that comes up between close friends poking at one another, and it is well documented that both have come close to dying for one another and that both are in frequent friendly contact with the other.

This becomes more complex when taking into account Alistair's relationship with his half-sister, Goldana. To say that their tie is strained would be an understatement. She took money from him during the Blight but wanted nothing to do with him after that, but his ascent to the throne forced her to accept a royal title and lands in order to keep her safe. The two of them do not speak to one another, though Alistair is known to dote on her children as much as he is able and she allows. She was given a respectable stipend near Highever under Fergus, who recognized her five children and had them properly educated. She married into the knighthood following the Blight, but she and Alistair never reconciled and their relationship was never more than strained. 

(It is believed that Leliana and Anora once went to have a private chat with Goldana, which led to her not insulting Alistair nearly so much and being kinder to him whenever he was forced to visit Highever. The truth of this meeting may never be known, but it is known that someone matching Leliana's description once visited Goldana's laundry in the dead of night, and that Anora once demanded Goldana's presence in her private chambers. Whatever was discussed remains between the three of them.)  

Anora and Alistair's relationship was and is complicated. Alistair had many traits in common with his brother, Cailin, though his good nature and sense of humor were tempered by his treatment as a child. Alistair was more grounded and realistic than his brother, and much more aware of his faults. Anora loved Cailin, and Alistair's similarities to her dead husband were initially a stumbling block between her and the new king. Over the early months of their relationship, however, Anora came to appreciate the maturity that Alistair had over his older sibling, and the two went from mutual respect to friendly and finally did fall in love. Alistair's sense of humor softened Anora somewhat, and Anora's grasp of politics proved a good bar for Alistair to reach to.

They had three children together: eldest daughter Maris, middle child Logain, and youngest son Cailin. Alistair was a doting father who arranged blind fosterages at Highever, Vigil's Keep, and Redcliffe for his kids.  

Secretly, Alistair did have one child out of wedlock: before the battle with the Archdemon, it is rumored that he and Elissa spent the evening with Morrigan at the Witch of the Wild's insistence. Morrigan was later with child, and it is believed that child was Alistair's but that Alistair had nothing to do with the boy's upbringing.

Much later, Alistair and Morrigan met up again at Skyhold during the height of the new Inquisition. Alistair had a chance to meet the boy but did not reveal his identity at Morrigan's request. While their antagonism was well known during the Fifth Blight, Morrigan came as close as she ever could to apologizing to Alistair, telling him that she had told their child that his father was “a good man.” Morrigan also promised that their child would never take the throne, and that she was trying to be a better parent than her mother. Alistair is known to have commented that this did not set the bar especially high.  

Of note, Elissa and Alistair met the pirate Isabella in Denerim during the Fifth Blight. It is known that Alistair spent some small amount of private time with them both. The details of what they are doing are mostly private, though Leliana has let slip that it was during this time that Elissa markedly improved in swordplay. Aside from this, Alistair accompanied Elissa to Soldier's Peak, the Lake Calahad Tower, Redcliffe, Denerim, Haven, Oste.gar, and into the final battle with the Archdemon.

It was at Ostegar that Elissa, Alistair, Morrigan, and Leliana gave King Cailan a proper cremation and reclaimed the weapons and armor of the fallen king and the Warden, Duncan. They also retrieved the goblet allowing for the creation of more Wardens, though they did not make any more Wardens during the Fifth Blight (it is believed that neither knew how to alter the darkspawn blood properly at that time, though they would both learn the rites later).

When Alistair staked his claim to the throne of Fereldan, he started using Cailan's armor (modified by the smith, Wade), and using Duncan's sword and Cailin's shield. It's rumored that some believed that he was Cailan returned from the dead upon first seeing him, a thing that made Alistair distinctly uncomfortable but that the Arl of Redcliffe was happy to play upon. The armor was set aside after the Fifth Blight and is kept in a private collection that owned solely by Anora.    

[tiffany-smith]

Back when I'd read eleven WoT books and wasn't really planning on reading the rest because LONG and TIME CONSUMING, I had an idea for an online persona who'd be a teacher. It was a daydream and I never got around to it, but I decided to name her Lini.

Then, later, I made an OC for another fandom and decided to reuse the idea. So I have a character named Lini.

Cue deciding to re-read the Wheel of Time and then, ages later, running into Lini and going: ah. yes. her. this is why I normally don't name people after fictional characters.

BONUS: the time I was trying to name yet another OC and decided Nynaeve and Elayne were both pretty, flora-sounding names for a flora-person, but of course I couldn't just name her Nynaeve or Elayne.

So I named her "Nynaeve" but backwards. That turned out to be "Eveanin," so imagine my shock when, lo and behold, there is a character named Egeanin.

Not to mention the many, many, many names that are just Too similar to those of my main hyperfixation.

Birgitte Trahelion.

There's a guy named HEARNE for crying out loud

Mazrim Taimi

oh and Logain. can't forget Logain. tbf Logan's a pretty common name so that's cheating but still.

[lifaria]

[markantonys]

THE WHEEL OF TIME | season 2 trailer

- I'm tired of being a spoke in the Wheel. - You're not a spoke, boy. You are the water that turns the Wheel itself.

[saffronique]

I'm gonna be honest i didn't really give a shit about Logain in the books but in the show he's about to be one of my favorite characters and it's all because of this look:

Look at this. Look at him! This is perfect. Beautiful. The robe. The puffy eyes. The disheveled hair. The whole look. The bowl of gruel. This is "my wife (Saidin) left me and I am losing the divorce", this is "my boyfriend broke up with me one week before prom and I am NOT handling it well", this is "my lover Saidin died in the war and now I must marry another so our child shall not be born out of wedlock", this is EVERYTHING to me. This is MY wet rag of a guy.

[elf-princeling]

been having a lot of thoughts about mazrim rand and logain

[asha-mage]

Robert Jordan finished WoT AU 😈

[Send me a potential AU and I'll answer with five things from that story!]

ahahaahahaha, you bait me so zorpi! This is more a 'things I reasonably can guess from my many read through the series' more then anything else, but-

Based on Perrin's portion of the Jordan written ending their was clearly meant to be a moment where Perrin had to choose between Faile's safety and the fulfillment of his duty- and choose his duty, trusting in Faile to protect herself and make her own choices. This is also pretty clearly what Malden and the battle with the Shaido was meant to set up: Perrin realizing that his obsessive desire to protect/love Faile was as much flaw as virtue, and that true love would be trusting her strength and courage. In Jordan's ending I would guess that this would likely have manifested having a choice between leaving the Two Rivers force at the front lines to go rescue Faile, who is carrying the Horn to Mat, or else stay with the Two Rivers Forces and trust Faile- choosing the later. Thus his racing through the battlefield in the aftermath, and finding Faile still alive in the carnage, would be his arc reaching it's conclusions, being rewarded for his trust and faith in her.

Mat was, I suspect, supposed to play a much larger role in the negotiations to get the Seanchan into the coalition against the Shadow, serving as leverage and pressure to get Tuon to the table and to agree to the terms- I also suspect based on his reticence regarding the Empire from when he and Tuon part in KoD, he was supposed to be a lot more reluctant/put off on the idea of commanding the Seanchan forces, and it was originally supposed to be Tuon's idea and/or part of her compromise- she'll join, but her army will follow Mat, not the Dragon appointed supreme commander.

I think we would have gotten a lot more Gabrelle, Toveine, and Logain as our Black Tower PoVs/the counter coup against Taim- Toveine was already being set up in this role in KoD and prior, and it would make sense as a means for her to 'redeem' herself of the Vileness, and it fits with Jordan's usual 'closing of the circle' that one of the Red Sister who helped with the slaughter of the men who could channel, would be one of the first and strongest converts to the Black Tower's cause.

I think we where supposed to also a get bit more thematic conflict/contrast between Graendal and Rand in Arad Doman. In general the political situatuion in Arad Doman feels very....off from how Jordan normally works politics. I think the broad beats (destruction of Natrin's Barrow, failure to stabilize the region, Rand abandoning Bandar Ebon to starve at his lowest moment) would be the same, but it feels very strange things like the merchant council politics and Graendal's broader parallels to Rand (especially in that moment- as she /also/ crumpled under impossible standards and failure to live up to perfection as Rand is currently inthe process of doing) would be far more dug into.

Finally, I think we would have had a least one major reunion scene with the original Emond's Field 5- I know this is something Sanderson wanted to do and tried very hard to manage but didn't quite fit in, which I think is sad. It really feels like their is a missing moment in there, where Mat, Perrin, Rand, Egwene and Nynaeve where all supposed to sit down and reflect on how far they've come and how before the final battle. It especially feels like something that would have been appropriate from either Nynaeve and Rand's perspective.

[wafflelovingbatgirl]

Logain is giving Victorian woman locked in a madhouse for embarrassing her family and does not seem qualified to give advice on anything. Let alone wielding magic. I don’t think I’d trust him to tell me how to eat his depression oatmeal

[wot-tidbits]

Mat, Perrin, Rand, Lan, Moiraine, Logain, Thom and Loial One Piece style by Arfaen

[wheeloftimecentral]

None of them understand who you are, what you’re going to be.

[nat111love]

THE WHEEL OF TIME ↳ Season 2 ↳ Episode Seven |  Daes Dae'Mar

[fishalthor]

Careful, boy, don’t take too much. You could burn yourself out. Let go, boy, it’s too much. - the wheel of time 2x06

[spectrum-color]

Wheel of Time season 2 verdict: overall better than 1; the scripts, visuals, and characterization were all improved.

Highlights include more focus on characters who aren’t Moiraine, Verin my queen, Liandrin (her actress really is awesome so I don’t mind her role being expanded though I have no idea why they decided to give her a son?) how they handled Elyas (I no longer mind him not being in season 1 now that I know they didn’t cut him; I understand what they were going for by delaying Perrin meeting him,) Bayle Domon and his SpongeBob pirate accent, the Wonder Girls overall whose characterization was on point, Mats new actor, I honestly prefer Show Perrin over Book Perrin (with the exception of the awful fridged wife plot but they seem to be moving forward from that,) Show Logain over Book Logain, and Show Min over Book Min at this point, Lanfear actually feeling competent, making the Moiraine and Lan falling out feel more real, Ishamael being affiliated with the Seanchan, Nynaeves accepted test, the Seanchan not being given the weirdly flattering portrayal they had in the later books, Mat and Mins friendship

[markantonys]