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yanderefairyangel · 2 years ago
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Someone on twittX suggested that I'd draw the meeting between Alear (M!) and Lumera and since I ... well, almost NEVER draw the poor M!Alear, I was like hey why not ?
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fe-engage-positivity · 1 year ago
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Queen Lumera makes me feel soft, such a sweet mother
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daydreamingsommie · 2 months ago
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The family's all together
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Picture another Reverse Elyos where Lumera's the Fell Dragon adopting discarded children to build her own evil family. The catch is that she genuinely loves them, and they all love each other. They just kill everyone else as a form of family bonding
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twilitponpon · 6 months ago
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“Time… it’s moving too fast. I can’t seem to keep up”
Chapter 25 is so good aaaaaahhhhh. Happy New Year guys!!
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aroejumping · 1 year ago
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happy 1st anniversary FEengage!
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hwangdahlia · 1 year ago
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xander-wolk · 1 year ago
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FE Engage redesign series: Lumera
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Design notes:
Probably one of the characters with the most egregious clipping issues.. I find her design really overwhelming, so I went with something more elegant and simplistic! Also something she could actually sit down in..
I think her dragon form is really cool, so I wanted to incorporate design elements from that with the see through cape and scale pattern!
I considered making the dress completely white, but decided to keep the sun set colors since I like to imagine her dragon form would be reflective and rainbow colored when the sun hits her scales just right :)
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real-fire-emblem-takes · 5 months ago
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Thinking about Engage and how some of the Emblems are similar to their original bearers, like Marth and Alear, Ivy and Leif, but Lumera and Sigurd is so interesting to me. The implication that he was her friend and confidant is something I’ve been thinking about for days, and it probably felt awful watching her die and leave Alear alone, like he was forced to do with Seliph…
Then I kept thinking about how almost all the Emblems have someone else they know that’s an Emblem. They all talk about how they know they aren’t the real person but they have their memories and miss their loved ones; but Marth has Tiki, Sigurd and Leif are uncle and nephew, Eirika has Ephraim right in there, hell, chrom and robin are in that bracelet making out 24/7 because their bond is so strong, but Celica is so alone. No one else from her location or time is there. Alm could’ve been in her ring too since they were bonded together with those brands, but she’s just so alone and that made me so sad I cried earlier god
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darkness-2727 · 1 year ago
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Corrupted Dragon Lumera
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bravenewwor1d · 1 month ago
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Happy Mothers' Day to them
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zefirart · 1 year ago
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chapter 1 VS chapter 3
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yanderefairyangel · 2 years ago
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Lumera's first death gets on my nerves
Alright, I think we can all agree that this scene got way too long even if I understand the reasons considering they needed to
1/ Establish that Lumera couldn't be healed and lost all her powers to gave them to Alear and that's also why it weakened the Lythos barrier
2/ Have Lumera teach some of her last lesson and promise with Alear to have their motivation explained
3/ To have a cry moment
But why it gets on my nerves it's because it's genuinely well written yet the scene's length is laughable on first playthrough.
Now I may sound biased because I play with JPN dub on and Aya Endo nailed the performance because it's Aya Endo but damn, do we ever talked about the amount of foreshadowing in that scene ?
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" Good. Mommy always wanted to meet with you !"
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"You are my mother ?"
This is the meeting between Alear and Lumera. Lumera call herself 母さん/kaasan/mother.
However when asking the question Alear says 母親 /hahaoya/mother. While the two means the same thing, there is some nuance in jpn with 母親 being more polite and formal then 母さん, which is a casual way of saying mother. And seeing how upon waking up Alear immediately used the formal suffix san when talking to Vander for the first time, it's probably a mark of reflexive politeness on Alear's part. However, Lumera calling herself 母さん isn't just to show her love for Alear or their closeness, it's how Alear used to call her in the past and eventually does after her death. So when Alear called her 母親 it immediately triggered Lumera's attention because this appelation made it even more obvious that Alear forgot about her, especially as in japanese dialogue, when asking a question, the characters often repeats the word that the previous speaker just uttered so you would expect Alear to ask : "あなたが、母さん ?" rather then 母親 . Alear using 母親 is translating into their complete loss of familiarity towards Lumera. It's additionally tying to Past Alear's polite tone that coupled by the use of hiragana and their cold tone translated more as an automatism rather then actual and genuine politness since Alear's politeness is being here very immediate almost reflexive.
Now, it's important to point that out but during the entire the chapter where Lumera is still alive, Alear doesn't call her "mother". The first time they call her "mother" is... during the death scene
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Ah.. you called me... your mother
In this dialogue Lumera is saying 母/haha instead of 母さん whereas Alear called her 母さん. This create a parallel to this scene with the role reversed. Morover, on Alear calling Lumera 母さん I'd like to point out that while it is still respectuous, Alear is being less formal with Lumera. Normally, seeing how polite they are I'd expect them to call Lumera お母様/okasama which is more formal. For example, Corrin does that with Mikoto. And in Engage's case, Alear calls Sombron お父様 /otosama. And while the way the character refers to their relative as isn't necessarily reflecting their closeness, it's often saying about them : for example, Veyle despite not being very close to Sombron, calls him パパ/Papa which is there to translate Veyle's innocent and a bit childish nature, and to contrast with how her other self calls Sombron お父様. Nel calls Sombron by his first name, and from times to times, call him お父様/otosama too, and this is likely to show her trying to distance herself from Sombron, espiecially as Alear nevers call Sombron "father" with maybe 2 exception : the A support with Veyle and at the end of the game, when Sombron is defeated. Seeing the difference between the way Alear calls Sombron vs how they refered to Lumera however, I think it's translating to how close they are and to Alear's affection towards Lumera. Another example of such case is how Rafal calls Sombron 父上/chichihue which is even more formal and sophisticated, and while it can be used just because of the royals status of the characters (since Diamant and Alcryst calls King Morion 父上 to, despite being on good terms), it's probably more due to the same reason as Alear since Rafal calls Nel/姉さん/neesan which much like 母さん is more casual and shows the Twins's closness and yet another parallel between Alear and Rafal. So Alear speaks more casually when talking with Lumera as a way to show their close bonds. While 母さん can also be translated as mother, it generally is casual and means more mom or mommy and imo the english version settled with mother because of Alear's statuts. And back to my commentary on 母親, it's even rarer and even more formal then if Alear had called her 母上, emphasizing Alear's total sense of strangerness upon meeting Lumera and contrasting drastically with how they end up casually adressing her. Contrasting with how Alear used to adress to Sombron and how polite they are with their allies, this shows that Alear is at ease with Lumera and let the guard down with her, that they can be casual with her.
Now, the interesting bits is that Alear ended up screaming 母さん despite their memory loss and their intial reflexive politeness toward Lumera showing a hint of subconsious memory, you know ? those things that feels vaguely familiar to Alear, and in general they feel this more towards things related to the Fell world. But in this case, they end up feeling this towards Lumera because ... of that one cutscene in chapter 21-22. Lumera, like Alear at that time, is dying in Lythos castle. This is a familair scenery but with reversed role : instead of Lumera holding a dying Alear, it's Alear who is holding a dying Lumera. And this is even more explicit at the moment where Alear begans to cry again, they switch to hiragana
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And at the risk of sounding like a broken record, current Alear speaks in full kanji, while Past Alear is the one speaking in hiragana. Alear switching at that very moment to hiragana is showing that their body remembers something that their mind don't as they end up speaking like they used in the past : using the same alphabet as a smal child.
Also, I played with F!Alear and at the begining of the game, she speaks with a more hight pitched voice compared to the latter game sounding much more childish as a result, making the immediate politness seems even more like a mechanism and in this scene, it's a striking parallel to the cutscene of chapter 21/22 as Alear speaks with the same tone as their past selves in that very scene. So when the scene switches to hiragana, it makes it like the same scene replays, with the role reversed, as if Alear remembered what happened despite it being subconsious.
And when Alear and Lumera makes the pinky promise/指切りand that Lumera's finger ends up falling, Alear says this
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Alears says "kaasan" in hiragana before switching back to kanji
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And from now on, each time Alear would refer to Lumera they will call her 母さん using the kanji form. There is one exception to this and it's Lumera's second death and this scene also parallel with Lumera's first death since in both case, the last word that Alear speaks in hiragana before reverting to kanji is "mother".
So my problem with this scene is that in japanese, the lengh and the precense of the dialogue is actually here to foreshadow the whole thing and because the writers wanted the player to notice it, especially as Lumera's death is supposed to feel sad from an hinsight, that is to say that the narrative delivering more about Lumera after her death is here to make us, the audience realize how in retrospective her death created a void in Alear's live, even beyond their amnesia.
And even more clever, the use of the camera. I know we all love to make fun of Alear's hair but here, the switching between their different profile from the camera is so clever because when Alear switched back to hiragana, the camera is focusing on the dominant red of her hair, making it feel like she actually remembers what happens.
This scene is doing an amazing job at justifying Alear's scene even before we learn about how much Lumera meant to them because it's showing how they actually remember things, even if their mind is still unable to recognize it.
But the thing is ... that for the English player, this whole switching isn't going to be noticed since unlike japanese, who have several alphabets, English doesn't have that. Nothing against the translator (at least this time) because the nuance and subtilities of the jpn dialogue between Alear and Lumera are impossible to properly translate and of course, the English speaking audience won't switch to a language that they don't understand, so all that remains is an way too long death scene.
I still think it's too long for it's own good and that they could have shorten it a bit, but the main reason why there is so many dialogue was precisely because of this. I genuinely think that it's unfortunate you can't appreciate the genius of this scene unless you switch to japanese (plus Mitsuishi's voice made me cry in that scene)
Engage has tons and tons of foreshadowing in it's early game that you can't really spot until you have played the entire game, so when you replay the story, it feels like a reward to see all of these little details.
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randomnameless · 5 months ago
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I remember seeing some posts around about how the Fodlan games echoed to the fact that some people who have responsabilities don't want to be saddled by them, or would rather (should?) seek their own happiness instead of facing them -
worst mom musings under the cut
Reading Duo!Sothis' lines in her alt with her daughter made me remember this :
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Bar the WTF about Sothis feeling self-conscious when she's portrayed as an arrogant brat, and despite the limbo this alt's in (aka it's a Sothis who hasn't heard Rhea sing as of yet, or isn't on the verge of merging with Billy, thus hasn't recovered her memories, and she's definitely not the one from Nopes), Sothis doesn't want to be called a goddess.
In game, we have this line from her :
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When she's about to disappear but not really because plot reasons, Sothis acknowledges that she didn't act or behave like she feels a goddess should have, but at least she had fun.
Are we supposed to believe Sothis doesn't want to do her Goddess things/duties and would rather have fun, even if it means the world is screwed and Billy has to clean after her?
Again, there's this tidbit :
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But then, before being fridged, she acknowledges that she is the arbitrer of each soul and Fodlan's guardian...
I am the one who watches over Fódlan and the creatures dwelling there.
はじまりのもの……フォドラの守護者にして 生きとし生けるものを導く神祖
(JP Sothis calls herself the progenitor god, aka the title Rhea Seteth and Constance (i know) use for her and the Guardian, aka the role that was given to the Immaculate One, who later says she was acting as Sothis' proxy!)
So what, she doesn't want to share her blessings to people who yearn for her, because it's not "so cheap", and yet we know she's supposed to look and guide people (thus sharing her blessings?) so...?
Are we supposed to understand the gremlin is a deadbeat goddess? Like, she dgaf about her role and duties, only wincing when she remembers them but dgaf as long as she had fun?
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As for more deadbeat mom moments :
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IIRC, in FE16, Sothis wonders if she had a family back then, later she remembers having wrote and sang a lullaby to someone...
I know this most likely isn't the Sothis from around that time, but once again, just like Fodlan gave us "Sothis the deadbeat mom" never interacting with her youngest daughter - unless she's dying and reached an A-rank support with Byleth - even when her avatar uses her spine to brutally murder her, here we have IS choosing to write the "amnesiac but not really or not?" Sothis feel disturbed by Rhea's open affection for her.
No more wondering if she had a family or trying to recover her memories, we just have "I don't remember, stop calling me like that, I'm self-conscious stop calling me a God but I expect respect from Billy" and, maybe it's my own bias for having posted about it since 2019, but this exchange?
Sothis: I do not disagree with you on that point, yet... The idea that I once birthed a child feels somehow unreal. And yet you call me "mother..." Rhea: It's terribly sad to know you do not recognize me... Just know that, no matter what you look like...you are still my mother. I spent so many years seeking you. I... I felt I would lose my mind... Sothis: Now, you listen to me! This is a festival. I will not have you wear such a sad look upon your face. Ugh, fine! On this occasion, you may call me whatever you like, whether "mother" or "mama." Hmph... Rhea: Thank you so very much! Fortunately, today is the Day of Devotion, a day to express gratitude... I would like to express my gratitude to you, Mother. I have never been able to do so. Until now. Sothis: *sigh* I do not remember doing anything, but it appears pointless for me to even say as much. Rhea: Before that... I am wondering if you could please entertain one request from me. Sothis: Well then, do not hold back now that so much has been spoken. Tell me. Rhea: I want you to call me by my name. Just like back then. Call me... "Immaculate One."
Reminded me of this :
Nino: “Mother…just once… if only for a little while… may I��hold your hand?” Sonia: “Nino, you know how I abhor such displays.” Nino: “I… I know. But…I may not get another chance… And I thought…” Sonia: “…Very well.” Nino: “Huh?” Sonia: “If you complete this mission, I’ll hold your hand as often as you like. I will even hug you and stroke your face.”
Credit where's it's due, Sothis at least doesn't want Rhea to feel down so she "allows" her to call her Mother out of, I guess, goodwill and not a ploy to have her comply with whatever orders she asks - but we're in the same case of a woman being off-put or ill-at-ease with their respective children demonstrating some sort of affection for them, and their reluctance to show or even accept this affection.
I'm not saying "women must automatically be good mothers" trope, but with this convo? Sothis doesn't remember and doesn't wish to remember - when canon wise she wanted to! She even wanted to know how her family was doing! - and seemingly has no desire to reconnect with her daughter.
This alt feels like Rhea's happy/super exicted (I wonder how Leigh will play those lines out) to hang out with Sothis... while Sothis feels bothered or weirded out.
There's no wish to reconnect, no asking what and why Rhea loves her so much, no mention of any other member of the family, nothing. Just a daughter loving her mother a lot, and a mother feeling distant, weirded out, and showing affection out of obligation.
Again, kuddos to FEH to have written Sothis to be in an even more toxic relationship with her daughter than what existed in FE16.
Hell, Nopes, for all the flak I give it, managed to convey through their battle convos more warmth/interaction/sense of Sothis being proud and happy to interact with her kids, than this duo unit that was advertised as "Rhea and Sothis finally reunite!".
I'm half wondering why Sothis is smiling in her artwork, given what the relationships between the two is in their lines, no matter what the CD artwork suggested, reading those lines now? I can't picture Sothis singing or playing a song for Rhea. At least not the Sothis depicted in this alt.
Nopes!Sothis maybe, especially since FEH retconned her anger to be tied to the fate of her children, aka learning they were massacred.
Granted, in her base game, she can marry her avatar after wiping out her daughter's blood from her spine, or can radically keep on ignoring her despite her desperate please and breakdown if her avatar doesn't care enough about said daughter.
And let's not talk about her role as the goddess, bcs it doesn't matter as long as she has fun, so who really cares?
yeah :/
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daydreamingsommie · 1 month ago
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Happy Mother's Day
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I included Veyle because we all know Lumera would've adopted her
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twilitponpon · 1 year ago
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Decided clean up that Alear sketch. Lumera’s anatomy is so bad but I’m still sick and recovering, so I was too lazy to fix it 😅
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rainbowdonkee · 1 year ago
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Full art for Fallen Lumera - Corrupted Dragon
Artist: TAKUBON
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