#maybe itll prompt him to finish them lol

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I'm pretty sure I've made this EXACT post before but the fact that I can't just LOOK UP content of my favorite boy in the world my baby Kepler makes me wanna rip chunks out of the drywall with my teeth

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May 18th-May 24th, 2020 CTP Archive

The archive for the Comic Tea Party week long chat that occurred from May 18th, 2020 to May 24th, 2020.  The chat focused on Hans Vogel is Dead by Sierra Barnes.

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BOOK CLUB START!

Hello and welcome everyone to Comic Tea Party’s Book Club~! This week we’ll be focusing on Hans Vogel is Dead by Sierra Barnes~! (https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/hans-vogel-is-dead/list?title_no=62633) You are free to read and comment about the comic all week at your own pace until May 24th, so stop on by whenever it suits your schedule! Discussions are freeform, but we do offer discussion prompts in the pins for those who’d like to have them. Additionally, remember that while constructive criticism is allowed, our focus is to have fun and appreciate the comic! Whether you finish the comic or can only read a few pages, everyone is welcome to join and chat with us!

DISCUSSION PROMPTS – PART 1

1. What did you like about the beginning of the comic?

2. What has been your favorite moment in the comic (so far)?

3. Who is your favorite character?

4. Which characters do like seeing interact the most?

5. What is something you like about the art? If you have a favorite illustration, please share it!

6. What is a theme you like that the comic explores?

7. What do you like about the comic’s story or overall related content?

8. Overall, what do you think the comic’s strengths are?

Don’t feel inspired by the prompts? Feel free to discuss anything else that interested you!

snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights)

I like the dark tone of this comic. It really reminds you of the more horror-esque side of classic fairy tales that you don't see in modern interpretations (well, ok, you see it in SOME modern interpretations, but not many). Though, I didn't realize what sort of comic this would be going in (I figured it would be something more akin to "the five people you meet in heaven"). So when people started calling Hans "Hansel" and he came across an old cottage I was face-palming a bit lol. I really like the interactions between Hans and Reineke. It feels like this is probably the first time Hans has actually followed through with taking care of someone like he always wanted to do as a kid, and as the story progresses we see the beginnings of Hans unlearning the lessons taught by his father and his country thanks to the interactions with Reineke. Every action and inaction you take has a consequence, and every life has purpose and deserves love (even if nobody else believes they do).

Ed-Money

Agree on the tone. I think the art really contributes to that. I had some trepidations going in as dark fairytale has been played out so many times that you wonder if this will bring something new to the table. But making the setting WWII and a turn to more of the Germanic fairy tales made it work really well. I haven't gotten very far in it but I am really interested in seeing if Hans continues this sort of upward development or if it becomes rockier and there's some relapses. What do you think?

snuffysam (Super Galaxy Knights)

Well Not gonna spoil the rest of the reading for you But there is a pretty solid answer to that question lol

RebelVampire

What I like about the beginning of the comic was just how I didn't really know what to expect. Without reading the synopsis before hand, I was presented with a historical fiction setting, yet the art gave it this super eerie tone that made me on edge. So when the fantasy stuff started entering the picture, I was doubly intrigued because it was just not something I was expecting to happen. My favorite moment in the comic so far was actually probably the air battle because of the illustrations surrounding it. Just this beautiful mix of reality and fantasy that really catches your eye, and just overall the emotions felt so high and onpoint for the scene it's really stuck with me. My favorite character so far is definitely Hans. I just love how Hans is this really kind of vulnerable person. And while he has clear flaws, this vulnerability makes him so likeable. It really captures that quick nice niche of horror where the character isn't so helpless it's just a stealth nothing you can do scenario, but the character is also up against stuff beyond their skills so you're frightened for them. The characters I liked seeing interact the most were Hans and the Valkyrie. Cause I could not figure out where tf the Valkyrie stands on Hans, and there were so many hints dropped in that moment that I just want them to meet again so there can be even more context given.

Regarding the art, I just love the overall dark tone and constant changes to match the atmosphere. Like even though theres a cohesive style, the art can change very drastically to emphasize just the right points for each scene that really pulls me in. As for a theme the comic explores, I just gotta say it - I am a sucker for stories that humanize two sides of a war. Cause at the end, most soldiers are just people who are getting screwed over because people in charge couldn't be not jackasses. And while I wouldn't say this is a big theme, I do still like it's there. As for the what I like about the comic's story, honestly, just kind of everything. This is one of those comic's where I went in thinking, "Hmm I don't think this will be my cup of tea." and then I come out of it going "That was amazing." I love the dark fairy tale aspects, the realism aspects, the strange world, etc. It is all just wonderful. As for the comic's strengths, I think it's the art. The art for me is really what sells the dark fairy tale aspects and puts in that extra oomph of horror for each scene.

sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)

I like the fox animal

That one is my favorite so far & its all very cool

I liked the pigeon picture with all the realistic pigeons

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DISCUSSION PROMPTS – PART 2

9. Is Hans Vogel actually dead? Regardless of yes or no, why do you think he is where he is? Additionally, if Hans is “dead”, is it possible for him to die again? If so, what do you think would happen to him at that point?

10. Over the course of the story, how do you think the events will change how Hans views his own life, his country, and the war he was fighting? Overall, what do you think the story has to say about war?

11. Do you think Reineke is just a fox, or is there something more to Reineke? Additionally, do you think being with Hans will help Reineke recover from previous mistreatment? If yes, how so? If not, why not?

12. How might Hans change the world of Märchenwald, especially given the war that is said to be going on in the world? Will this change be for the better, worse, or ultimately have no affect?

Don’t feel inspired by the prompts? Feel free to discuss anything else that interested you!

RebelVampire

To answer the next set of questions then- I think Hans is "dead," but I also think the comic is asking us to reconsider what being "dead" is. And in this case, I think death is basically going to another world or a form of purgatory. I do believe the valkyrie implied Hans could die again, so perhaps he'd go to even different world. Maybe death is just this endless world traveling where each world is progressively worse in the comic's setting. Although I really do lean towards more this is purgatory. I think over the course of the story, I do kind of feel like Hans is going to come to think war is bad because it means lots of people die, many for no good reason and many who aren't even combatants. And I think overall he'll look back on his accomplishments with much more shame, not even just based on the side he was on, but just on the true horrors he did in the name of war. Basically, war sucks, people die, and while sometimes it's a necessity, war leaves scars that can't be healed. So I kind of think the entire world is composed of people who, like Hans, died. So while Reineke might be a fox in that world, perhaps Reineke was a human like Hans back on Earth - hence why Reineke is so insistent about the mix up. I do think Hans will help Reineke grow though, as I think Hans will just show decent kindness and respect that screams "hey sometimes you can trust people." I think Hans will stop whatever war has been going on in the world while overcoming his personal demons. And it will surely be a change for the better, though I don't think we're gonna get sparkles and rainbows.

sssfrs (JOE IS DEAD)

I think he's dead because it says so in the name

sierrabravo (Hans Vogel is Dead)

I'll admit, I love it when the "is he dead" question comes up...

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DISCUSSION PROMPTS – PART 3

13. What are you most looking forward to seeing in regards to the comic?

14. Any final words of encouragement for the comic?

Don’t feel inspired by the prompts? Feel free to discuss anything else that interested you!

RebelVampire

I'm most looking forward to finding out more about the war shenanigans that are going on in Märchenwald. Cause no only will I think this give the story some unique changes in focus, but itll be interesting to see how the parallels might affect Hans. My final words are just that this is a wonderful comic. As I said earlier, going in I didn't think this comic would be my cup of tea, but then it just pulled me in with the dark atmosphere, the mystery, the characters, and so forth.

sierrabravo (Hans Vogel is Dead)

I'm not sure when this ends/if there's going to be any other comments, but I wanted to thank everyone who left a comment in here and for the wonderful questions!

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BOOK CLUB END!

Thank you everyone so much for reading and chatting about Hans Vogel is Dead this week! Please also give a special thank you to Sierra Barnes for volunteering the comic and creating it! If you liked Hans Vogel is Dead, make sure to continue to support it via some of the links below!

Read and Comment: https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/hans-vogel-is-dead/list?title_no=62633

Sierra’s Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/sierrabravo

Sierra’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/chjorniy_voron?lang=en