#murderbot…..save me murderbot………
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#tmbd#murderbot#the murderbot diaries#never gonna be happy w this so im just going to post it#had these poses lying around from an old figure drawing sesh#genuinely unable to stop thinking abt it ouuouuuuuuu#murderbot…..save me murderbot………
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i find the way Amena acts around Murderbot in Network Effect very cute. because like while she does rib on it by calling it 'third mom,' the way she follows it around is actually very reminiscent of how i followed my older siblings around when i was a kid, especially when they had friends over, and especially if the friend that was over was nice to me (ART, would be that friend in this situation) despite the fact she's the eldest child it seems like no teenager is immune to following around someone older than you with a grumpy demeanor that seems very annoyed by your presence and is also fun to annoy on purpose
#i think its pretty easy to assume that its like the way mensa wanted to stay arpund MB after everything and how MB#saved amena so she feels safe around it but like her uncle is here and i assume that amena also has hung around#the pres aux members to some extent before so the fact she chooses to follow MB around and talk to ART about it#its just reminding me of how i did that to my older siblings lol#murderbot#the murderbot diaries#murderbot diaries
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In the serials I watch, when somebody comes and saves the day people cheer and clap hands and hug. But these clients didn't seem to be relieved, or grateful.
Something something Murderbot's trauma response/confusion over emotions means it struggles to find satisfaction in any outcome. You already DID save the day against the hostile fauna and the whole group DID cheer for you and they CLAPPED for you (twice!) and Ratthi wanted to HUG you and they verbally expressed their RELIEF at their safety and their GRATITUDE for you saving them... and you hated that response too :(
#Murderbot#Murderbot spoilers#obviously there's a big difference between saving someone via shooting a predatory animal#and saving someone via shooting a human being#but that's kinda the point#a point Murderbot doesn't understand yet#but idk it's just in this cycle of endless criticism/disappointment with itself#every outcome is a bad outcome to it#even if it says otherwise to the humans#I will fix the hopper! ... but I am a useless idiot#Everything turned out fine! ... but no one is praising me#They're praising me! ... wow I fucking hate that#Murderbot is sooooooo confused at all times and I want to give it a hug#but it would also hate that. so very much lol
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Do we ever stop to think that ART saved its whole entire self behind a password. And the password was the name it calls Murderbot. Do we ever think Murderbot needed its own name to save ART's life. Its whole entire self. Protected by Murderbot's name.
Do you ever cry.
#Murderbot#IT'S SO COMPELLING IT MAKES ME WANNA EAT CEMENT#Best relationship in the whole series#Mensah and Murderbot being a close second#it's so good. it's so compelling. 'Call me by your name' should mean this moment right here.#'Say your name and save me'
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rereading system collapse is so funny because murderbot's humans (and its asshole research transport) are like. illogically protective of it. some variation of this interaction happens like four times in fifty pages:
murderbot, standing around and stalling, having a mental breakdown: come on murderbot you gotta be better than this you can't just be having [redacted] do your JOB
ratthi/iris, who know this, distracting it: do those hatches look weird to you? those hatches look weird to me. murderbot, based on your thousands of hours of media consumption, do those hatches look weird to you?
and then to make it worse, feat. poor tarik:
tarik, on a high-stakes mission spearheaded by a secunit who is sending absolutely zero information back to the rest of the crew: ? status update?
iris/ratthi/art-drone, pulling out knives (/bombs): hey tarik? can you leave our murderbot alone? that's our specialest little secunit? it's got anxiety and it's doing its best so fuck off?
and then they start verbally stabbing him.
the amount of glee these scenes give me. i genuinely forgot how quickly they all rally around murderbot. and then there was that scene where murderbot went oh no, was tarik security, i don't want to take his job, and art-drone was like that was NOT his job he was NOT security and actually fuck that guy and YOU are security for my crew and if anything ever happened to you i would BOMB A PLANET
#mb#mb reread#seren's mb reread#the murderbot diaries#yes i am counting iris as one of murderbot's humans.#like objectively. to be fair. tarik is correct. murderbot never communciates and like#it kinda needs to.#but the way iris and art and ratthi DESCENDED ON THIS MAN#'wow i didn't realize you were a micromanager!' says iris :) smiling :)#like damn okay leave a body at least#and then there was a throwaway line#(not really throwaway. so many fascinating character interactions happen in passing. but you know what i mean)#(it's martha wells)#that talked about mensah and art...maybe mensah telling art to give it space?#this is why i need a PHYSICAL BOOK i can't remember#it was something like art and mensah conferring about how to help secunit#cannot for the life of me remember what about but i am just.#art and mensah!#and the way iris reminds murderbot of mensah constantly ough ough oof ouch it's so good#pov you abduct your friend in a last-ditch effort to save the people you love#and that person helps you save them but it's kind of awkward and only trusts like four people and then one of those four people meet you#so you clean your whole fucking house and yell at your roommates about cleaning up BETTER because we have to make a GOOD FIRST IMPRESSION#and then you and the person it trusts become besties and conspire on how best to support and love it in a way it'll accept.#end rant#very good book. tldr: very good very funny book
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ok but the insane amount of relief I feel when I press play on a Murderbot book
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On System Collapse, Sanctuary Moon, and saving one another.
I said the other day that System Collapse might be my new favorite Murderbot book. The first time I thought that was in the middle of chapter eight, the chapter where Murderbot and its humans make a documentary to show the colonists what the Corporation Rim is like. The whole book was good, but that was the chapter that felt like it was reaching out to me the most.
The thing that struck me about it is how Murderbot saves the colonists with media. It was saved by media—Sanctuary Moon helped it rewire its neural tissue, process its trauma, find a place for itself in the world. And coming up with the idea of using media to convince the colonists is what drags it out of the depressive state it’s been in for the entire book up to that point, and lets it start to feel hopeful again. It literally tells us in its narration that the emotional reactions it has when it comes up with this idea are similar to the ones it had watching Sanctuary Moon for the first time. The thought of creating its own media, of finding a way to tell the truth and be listened to, of being able to keep people from being trapped in the corporate world it knows all too well, is just as much of a lifeline for it as Sanctuary Moon was.
Murderbot has been been feeling like a failure as a SecUnit for the entire book, and it finds its way out of that not through regaining its normal SecUnit competence but through art. Something it was never meant to experience or understand, let alone create, but something that shaped who it is. It takes the thing that saved it and turns it around to save others—and saves itself again, in the process.
And the other thing that jumped out at me, thinking about chapter eight, is that so many of us have been saved by media, too. So many of us have been saved by Murderbot, in big and small ways. I’m certainly one of them. Murderbot and the community of readers who love it gave me the space to stop and consider some things that (not unlike Murderbot) I hadn’t really been willing to examine. And now I get to figure myself out in a community full of aspec people who understand. Murderbot has given that opportunity to a lot of people.
Martha Wells has talked in interviews about how parts of Murderbot were based on herself. She says, in her introduction to the Subterranean Press edition, that media “probably saved [her] life as a kid,” including the kind of media that isn’t “cool” to be saved by. We’ve seen that in Murderbot ever since the very first line of All Systems Red. What we saw in chapter eight of System Collapse goes a step further. It makes me want to hold a mirror up—I hope Wells was aware, when she was writing it, that what Murderbot does for the colonists is something she’s done for a lot of others.
The colonists that Murderbot saves with its documentary are not real people. That scene, of course, is fiction. But it’s the kind of fiction that’s true in all the ways that matter.
I really love Murderbot. Not in a weird way. 💜
#stars has thoughts#system collapse#system collapse spoilers#murderbot#murderbot meta#the murderbot diaries#i was having so many emotions when reading chapter 8#i paused after that chapter and wrote a draft of the second and third paragraphs of this post#it's about the parallels. between murderbot and its own past self#between murderbot and Wells. between murderbot and us.#it really genuinely made me want to hold that scene up to Martha Wells and say#you know that you did this for us‚ right??#you know that you're saving people too?
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makes me kind of sad whenever MB rebukes itself for spending time watching media instead of writing code/making contingencies/assessing threats. Because like, for any human that would just be downtime. No one expects a person to be at work 24/7 constantly doing things. But anything MB sees as a preventable outcome it takes as a personal transgression that indicates a system failure (or itself just doing a 'half-assed' job). Like in some instances, its like yeah why are you watching Sanctuary Moon on a hostile ship buddy we don't have time for that, but also it's a contracted worker? Just because it's not human doesn't mean it doesn't deserve to take breaks, and have time off being a security consult, and have leisure time.
#there's just this one comment it makes in network affect#where it said that it split its time between writing up contingencies for if a hostile encountered its facility on planet or whatever#and the rest of its time went to watching media#and it said that it should have spent less time watching media and more time developing contingencies for hostiles during space travel#and like#you're a ONE PERSON security consult#any human expected to do a job like that would also allocate resources and prioritize and WOULD NOT sacrifice energy/downtime/recuperation#for unlikely scenarios given that MB is just a ONE PERSON security consult#obviously it should have breaks. it does not have to be on all the time#it does not have to work all the time#when it is active it is allowed to split it's free time between work and leisure it does not exist solely to save other people's lives#liiiiiiike#idk it gets me#i could make a whole other post about its media dependency#the first time it pulled up sanctuary moon in the middle of an active threat situation i was like wow. lol. you're so diva#and now im like you're debilitating anxiety is so relatable haha#Murderbot
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Playing around with different murderbot designs while listening to the audiobook
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Murderbot Animatic. Spoilers for Artifical Condition. I cannot say enough things about this video. I am having an emotion.
(The artist @kesbeacon can be found on Tumblr as well.)
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#the murderbot diaries#murderbot fanart#animated music video#Ganaka Pit#murderbot#this scene was the first time the books really dug in emotionally for me#the fact that the tragedy was just a dumb accident#the comfort units trying to save the humans#murderbot just buried in the burden of thruth#closure never being the catharsis you hope it will#amazing#i have watched this so many times#my favorite depiction of murderbot#i notice more attention to detail every time i watch it#please go the their YouTube and look at this piece of passionate fan art#the song is so haunting used in this way#Youtube
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murderbot tv show ep 6 reactions/spoilers under cut. i'm so late 😭 but goddamn this ep
oh my god. i really do love sanctuary moon.
BIG MOOD
everyone needs a little warmth. the cheese might kill me omg
no dopamine is tragic
CUTE LAUGH??? help
omg it's freaked out too
uh oh
BECAUSE I HAD TO
SO SERIOUS
SEASON 19 SRS BUSINESS
LMFAOOOO
book mb has learned not to do this but i can definitely see tv rebellious teenage mb having to learn in real time not to delete mission info while still on the mission
GASP mensah how could you say that about sanctuary moon
agree to disagree mb that's surprisingly diplomatic you really do like mensah
awww. it's acknowledging that it has feelings. terrible that those feelings are p much only negative
wtf that fluid is so. metallic looking. like obviously it would be but you know what i mean
ratthi wtf is that
aww he just wants to help
so much cool stuff bharadwaj i love you
it be like that sometimes
okay
okay plz don't
lbb i need you to not. ESPECIALLY bc you're being extra sus today
STOP
jesus fucking christ
oh mb no
MB NO
it's trying so hard but it's SO BAD at being reassuring
anxiety IS contagious you're so right
trying SO HARD i love it sm
ghsdfjkulahndiuhdsuadhsfjouhndas
adsfujohnk
I'M
THE SINGING HELP ME
mensah please
causes synchronized breathing
dear lord every tiny sanctuary moon lore drop feels like an acid trip
"that's sad" "yes" i'm having so many emotions
IT'S CANON
goddddddd it really helps it and she finally sees that it's trying to help her oh my godddddddd
uh oh
it really shouldn't be leaking like that cuz its shit seals automatically when it gets hurt but also. mb how did you not fucking notice
DON'T TOUCH
god every time it says that i explode w pride
the way its swaying and making confused sounds
"i'm fine!" in the most unconvincing tone ever heard b4
mb i'm begging
i mean it's right but this is not one of the things that wouldn't incapacitate it WOOPS
gurathin's fucking expression
DEBT
gurathin omg
once more i'm team gurathin
sdfughiujksbnf
gurathin you're right about corporates you're so right but mb being free of its gov mod lets it hate them just as much
AHA
ME AND GURATHIN KNEW IT
'it's a gun.' GURATHIN
lmfaooooo mb
where armor? armor gone?
EXCUSE ME
IN TRANSPORTS??
in the books art specifically doesn't have human neural tissue and i'm gonna be sad if it does in the show but all the same ART? ART HINT???
oh armor gone for surgery got it
time to cut jfc
she's gonna fucking pass out
pass out twinsies episode??
HEY
YOU'RE RIGHT BUT HEY
adsbifghjuyaksfgdnlfnadfgs
sdighjbsjfhnadl
STOP
STOOPPPP
yeah sure him too
ugh that wound opened way too wide from such a small cut jfc
RATTHI
me too arada
just for one scene can this polycule all be comfortable with each other. just once. plz
non threatening vibe. big same
oh man gurathin about to climb out of his skin
YOU DON'T HAVE TO EAT ME
mb that's not the pOINT
OH FUCK NO
oof mensah that's pretty bad you right
oh ick
YUCKY
uh. mb. your spine's kinda
out
GOOD TIMES???
he won't
gurathin won't. YOU'RE TOUGHER THAN THIS GURA
they're all frozen in the same position holding hands im
DAMN ARADA
ratthi secunits #1 fan
uh oh
worst thing to say to gurathin
YEAH MAN
FUCKING HELL YEAH MAN
BADASS SEC UNIT FRONT AND CENTER WOO
it really is baby. older mb wouldnt have let her know it was there b4 it exploded her head
YOU COULD'VE KILLED ME
THERE WAS A CHANCE YES
"hostile subdued" i mean. you right.
mensah, faintly: oh no
I'M RELIEVED AND I'M CHEERING
SORRY YOU CAN'T HEAR ME BUT I'M CHEERING
aww man. awwwwww man. it really did save them. from its pov it did good and they should be happy or at least not displeased. and it protected them which is the part of its function it likes!!! god this sucks
all aboard the trauma express
god. if they ever get around to mentioning how mb doesn't want its humans to be afraid of it i won't recover
what a transition
every sanctuary moon actor is playing this so fucking straight and it's so goddamn funny and good
damn. commands from inside and commands from outside. oh nooooo im so
you sure did mb
and good job
HELL YEAH
HELL YEAH IT DID WOOOOOOO
oh my godddd thank fuck they mentioned that it enjoys killing when it has a reason and choice to kill
hoo boy. that was a lot. they packed so many emotions into 20 mins.
#murderbot tv#murderbot tv spoilers#tmbd#uneatenclient pontificates#im a big proponent of characters who need to kill not feeling bad about killing#so im extra delighted by the very end of the ep#i get why presaux is upset and that theyve never experience anything close to this or even conceived of it happening#but also mb did its job and it did it well!!!!#dont yell at it!!! dont get mad at it for saving your lives!!!!#this episode made me feel so many emotions im fucking reeling
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"Do you know where we are going next?" I asked ART.
Y'know what, I think maybe I don't need any more Murderbot books. I think maybe ending things here is fucking perfect and as much as I love Wells's writing I'm genuinely not sure it can get better for me.
Like, so much of the books are about MB learning how to be a person, about becoming okay with being a complete individual with everything it entails. The first thing it does once it's actually allowed to decide on its own is it runs away from it all (admittedly to go on a mission to confirm some things about its past, because it genuinely just wants to be *good*). It shoves all its emotions away as much as it's able to. Then shit happens, and it makes its first friends, makes decisions based on these friendships, goes through a lot of emotionally intense situations...
And we get to this point here. MB having zero doubts about going with ART says a lot about its relationship with ART, but it also says a lot about its relationship with its humans - it knows that wherever it goes, when it comes back, the humans will still be there. Its humans actively acknowledge its struggles with being a now-free SecUnit and MB is willing to entertain the discussions to an extent and share information about its deeply personal experiences. Hell, System Collapse ends with MB admitting it might be somewhat broken, but that's okay as long as it can keep doing its job, and agreeing to basically do counselling - this is the guy what would rewatch its favourite TV show again and again in order to avoid acknowledging it even had Emotions a couple books back.
Reading this, I know that MB will be okay. It has hopes and goals and genuinely believes in itself and it has an amazing support system that its willing to lean on for the first time in its life. I'm convinced it'll go on to do great things with ART. And that's really the only thing I need to know.
#Murderbot#murderbot diaries#tmbd#system collapse#Herr's personal tag#Also like. System collapse dives deep into MB's feelings about its life as secunit prior to the events of all systems red#I find this conversation from when they were discussing what would happen if the BE folks got to the colonists first /very/ telling#MB going on about how life as a corporate slave is absolute fucking hell#ART drone saying that they can't just kill people because the alternative is worse than death#ART: would it have been kinder to kill you before you'd disabled your governor module?#MB with zero fucking hesitation: /yes/#(followed by my favourite ART line ever. “You know I am not kind.”)#Like. MB would not have always admitted that it had hated its life as a secunit this openly#Saying it was shit is one thing saying I would rather be dead than think of me or anyone else going through this again is a very different#And here it has zero issues stating that. At least when talking to ART#And then later on it goes on to offer its actual memories for a publicly screened documentary#Because it knows it's the only way to make people see. The only way to save then from the same (ish) fate#And it's willing to do whatever it takes to save these people it's never even met before from what it views as fate worse than death#Including opening up and acknowledging its past experiences and past/current feelings#And I'm just like. Man I couldn't be more proud of you if I tried.#You go MB. Holy fuck I wish I could do what you've done. You might just be the person to defeat this evil capitalism my dude
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Steven Universe coming back was not in my 2025 bingo, I will tell you that
#lars of the stars#steven universe#holy shit??#lars barriga#lars was amongst my favourite characters#i loved his arc#you know the part he died that onr#steven universe coming back to save me from horrible murderbot adaptation#i hope#please be good!#rebecca sugar is still in charge so#omggg we are gonna get new SONGS#NEW SONGS GUYSSSS#give me a 3 seconds Steven Cameo and i will be so happy#i have been wanting to do a SU rewarch for ages i thinkkkkkk maybe soon#rebecca sugar
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#content whiplash will save me#hi im multifandom swine#never closing on buddie#i just have a platonic date with a socially awkward security unit#9 1 1 on abc#murderbot
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In the discussion of the character's competence in the show VS the book, I think maybe it's that when we say "competence" we really mean "sure of themselves".
Like, there's that post going around saying that the show is starting the characters from a less developed point so they can get to where they were in the books. For example, "effortlessly charming, bestie of all Ratthi" being overeager to please in the show. Which is good for character development, it's just turning off fans who really like the self-asuredness of the cast in the book.
Mensah in the books already arrives a confident leader, Pin-Lee is already savvy about the Corporate Rim shady practices... they're realized characters. Which makes sense in a novella, where you don't have time to develop all of PresAux on top of MB, but not so much in a whole season of television.
I just would have preferred they did more than one book per season, rather than stretch out book one, because I rather like watching Murderbot be Murderbot around extremely well-adjusted people.
#Murderbot#like MB said I read MB to distract me from how things are#I rather like my unlikely utopic Preservation and my unrealistic well-adjusted characters#the shows vibes are not WORSE they're just different and I like the OG better LOL#also more than one book would have meant ART earlier AND I LOVE ART#Murderbot's journey in the first three books is such a throughline too#it's when it goes back to save Mensah that there's a big shift#so I feel like the 'oh shit' moment of Mensah having been kidnapped would have been a great cliffhanger#but oh well
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YeeeeEEEEEEESSSSS
I was getting really concerned with how fast I was blowing through these. I’m so glad this is an actual novel and I can settle into it for a few days
#I’m worried I may have ruined audiobooks for myself because these two series have just been so good#and I don’t have anything lined up#and my brain is just like ‘ooooorrrr we can live in an infinite loop of expanse + Murderbot for the rest of time’#send suggestions#save me from the infinite loop#audiobooks#murderbot
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