#ososan season 2

[notsobeautifuldisaester]

Ok but... Iyami looks really good in this screencap

[phantost]

phone doodle cuz when the neet is purple that can be a very special thing

(blm*tsus do not interact)

[puffpawstries]

I been on the art grind I think I'll post osomatsu san related art fights here then my main I got like 6 inked one in coloring stage and the other 5 gotta be colored

[confetti-critter]

Drawing something from an existing show/whatever is so nerve wracking. I can't draw comics of jyuushimatsu and 🎂 being silly together because I haven't watched ososan in 1 million years and if I make jyuush ooc I'll die and go to jail!!!

[wavefilez]

every day i wake up to hate on osomatsu san season 3

[malaierba]

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[typhra]

sorry one accidental bit of exposure of osomatsu san sent me back to thinking about karamatsu constantly

[wewerebornsextuplets]

idk how but you draw in the Oso-san style so good i need to know your secret please

HAHA thank you very much!! im glad you think so :D unfortunately im not very good at explaining how i work, but ill try my best to show what i mean!!

once again this is long as hell. you know the drill at this point

to be honest, half the battle i fight with drawing in the osmt style is just. Looking at it. the ososan art style actually fluctuates pretty wildly depending on what you're looking for, whether that be the mobile games (for instance, tabimatsu and hesowars look nothing alike in terms of style despite both being the same source material), official art and merch, or even the seasons of the show itself!

using ichi as my example here since i draw him the most, but its pretty easy to play spot the difference with the varying styles. even within a specific season you can do this across episodes, especially with season 1!

when i draw, i tend to be a bit sacrilege and use references across different media; usually ill use the show [especially season 2, if only because its a bit more "uniform"] as reference for the actual features and colors/poses/etc, but i like to use hesowars to reference proportions, since they seem to be most consistent there.

SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO NOTE: theres a WEALTH of fanartists that have styles that are INCREDIBLY similar to the show, so be careful to check your sources! these artists deserve credit for their hard work, which they often don't get since their work is reposted under the guise of being official art.

once you've pinned down the exact style you'd like to emulate, and the character you're looking to draw, its really just a matter of finding references, which is pretty easy! you can scrub through different episodes for good angles/shots, or if you're going for one of the game styles the AU wiki has most of the games catalogued to my knowledge. if you're looking to draw an oc, use characters you think they would look similar to in the show. if you really wanna waste your time, though, you can always scrub through crowd scenes in the show to see if any background characters might look like what you're going for; the season 3 episode Mt. Takao comes to mind, there were a lot of cute mob characters there.

using keiko as my example here, you can see that i pulled her features from multiple different characters to get her to look right in the style. with ocs, its important to reference a number of different characters, since the likelihood of a background character being a 1:1 for your little guy is unfortunately pretty low. there WILL, however, be a lot of characters that look KIND of like them. the key is to figure out what parts go where!

to this point, most prominent ososan women have very similar stock anime girl faces with very minor differences, so if youre looking to make a cute girl oc, most of the womens' faces can be used somewhat interchangeably. if you want your cute girl oc to have a more unique face, though, the movie gave us some women with more unique faces in the form of the NEETs' old classmates! theres also no harm in referencing male characters faces in this regard. #butchswag #kiruminikuya

BUT. going back to the assumption that you're drawing a canon character, today I'll be drawing oso for my example

when you're first getting a feel for the style, tracing some of your references can actually be a really great way to acclimate yourself to the characters proportions and features. think of like when you were a kid, and would trace over pictures of pokemon or cartoon characters so you could draw them better. its basically the same principle! this was especially helpful for me when it came to eyes; they vary the most wildly of any other trait that characters have in ososan, so going over the different shapes to get a feel for each of them was very important.

when you trace, though, I recommend doing so a bit more loosely, sort of like if you're doing a photo study for anatomy; block out the basic shapes and do small markers for different features (i.e small lines to denote where the eyes start and and, distance from nose to mouth, things like that), and from there draw the rest on your own.

after long enough you'll get a feel for the basic placement of where everything should go! the eyes and nose are undoubtedly the hardest when it comes to the sextuplets, since they shift around a LOT between games/seasons/etc. so don't feel bad if you have a hard time with that, since there isnt really a "right" answer with how frequently it changes. i still fuck it up all the time myself!

as for some basic tips, heres some stuff i try to keep in mind when drawing them that just helps the finished product look a bit nicer!

when drawing the hair + fringe line, its important to swoop it downwards a little bit; the flat across look Can work, but if you're not careful you risk showing the tops of their eyes, which is um. ew! ick! nast!

when a matsu is facing forward, their hair will usually tend towards one direction to keep the silhouette. in most screenshots i saw, the bowl cut points left! that said, dont be afraid to point rightwards if its better for your specific drawing!

and lastly: USE THE LIQUIFY TOOL. LIBERALLY. i am not joking when i say this has saved my ass so many times, its hard to get the placement right on the facial features and even harder to get everything to LOOK good, so if its available to you i HIGHLY suggest just squishing everything around with a liquify tool until it looks right. you can always go back and correct the blurry lines. its really a life saver

BUT YEAH! i dont know if this was very helpful but i hope you're at least able to gain something from it :-))

[notsobeautifuldisaester]

Hmph!

[harapeveco]

that post you made about how watching osomatsu san in 2017 created a domino effect that led you to becoming an eve fan is making me crazy because. that's literally exactly what happened to me 😭😭 i would love to know the order of events for you bc maybe we had very similar experiences lololol. anyway also just had to say that im happy to have found other eve fans! seeing ur posts on my dash is a treat :)

Omg mdkdkdkf I’m glad someone finally asked! Oks so it’s really complicated bc even tho ososan was the catalyst for it, it developed slowly in 2013

The timeline of events is pretty much this:

I started watching Fullmetal Alchemist (the 03 anime) in 2013 and I hated it. Moved to Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood a week after and absolutely loved it.

A few months after this I started watching Fairy Tail

I learned that both FMA and FT had character songs. In the past, animes usually had songs where the seiyuu’s would sing in character which is not common now. Back then I thought it was common, to me every anime had character songs

Fast forward to 2014, my fave YouTuber at the time had a Hatsune Miku poster and called her his wife. I decided to give her a listen

I became obsessed with World is Mine, Romeo and Cinderella, Redial and Tell Your World all by Miku

Fast forward to 2017, I watched ososan season 1 for the first time

Knowing that FMA and FT had character songs I thought ososan also had them

I did learn that’s not the case BUT I also learned people would take bits of utaite covers (I didn’t know what they were at the time) and put ososan fanarts on them to make them look like character songs

This is how I discovered Rolling Girl, Hitorinbo Envy, Matryoshka, Hibikase, Sweet Devil and probably the most important one here Red Purge. The ososan Red Purge was awful but it lead me to Reol’s cover of it

I immediately fell in love with Reol’s voice and songs and that motivated me to listen to more jp music

While this was happening, I would occasionally search for more ososan “character” songs which also lead me to Kagerou Daze, which also made me obsessed with Kagepro

Kagepro songs eventually led me to an English cover singer called Jubyphonic at some point of 2018. Her voice was terrible but there were like 2 or 3 covers I liked

She uploaded a cover of Tokyo Ghetto and it was awful, so awful I decided to look for the original

The way the first sentence of that song is sung made me realize almost immediately I wanted to follow this man to the end of the world

And that’s how watching ososan on 2017 made become an Eve fan uwu quite the domino effect isn’t it?

I’m now curious how it went for you bestie 👀

[brofightiscancelled]

mr rice can u please share your thoughts on ososan s1 and 2 vs s3 differences , like the direction they went that was less meta referencing the reboot nature of the show, and more on the mundanity and sisyphean nature of being directionless young adults (who are also virgins). Personally the bits focused more on the mundane were rlly good I think. U dont wanna see the matsus do chores? Play hide and seek? i personally enjoyed it. also, your omusubi thoughts if u have any?

i could probably write a thesis paper on this, and idk how having watched all 3 seasons back to back in the year of our lord 2024 affects my opinions, but ill try to keep it brief (1029 word stream of consciousness )

tldr: S3 lost sight of The Bit

dont get it twisted i LOVE slice of life stuff. i like characters. season 3 had some of my all-time favorite segments (pizza, the way home, mt takao). however to me what felt off about the season was moreso like… the Ratios. the Overall Season Balance, Ebb and Flow, it was all wrong. s3's skits were as a whole longer, fewer, and less funny. i did tier lists of every single segment from each season and i was shocked how fewer segments s3 had compared to s1. theyre too freaking long. and not even funny!!!

i didn't realize how.. idk stale? s3 was getting until cosplaymatsu and then i was fucking gulping for fresh air like FINALLY SOME GOOD FUCKING OUT-OF-CONTINUITY BITS!!!!!!!!!!! 

the thing is to me i think the Bit should trump all. s1 finale took this very literally, trampling all over the emotional cliffhanger for the Bit, but i think s2 finale also valued the bit of "well s2 is over so all that's left to do is die" while also retaining the emotional flow of facing mortality. i think s2 had the best finale for this reason btw. but ask me aboit that separately

to me osomatsu-san's Core Bit, at least that it started out with in s1, is "-kun is about these sextuplets being identical, so it's funny that they're all different as adults". the differences between them was in and of itself a punchline!! six same face!! to me as soon as you lose sight of this you lose my interest. no -kun flashback for s3e1 was a death keel. also, fuck you inumatsu

s2 took this core bit and ran with it a little further, now a little more confident in their characterizations they used the differing personalities as new comedy material. it's probably the platonic ideal of how ososan can combine its identities of "60's anime remake" and "jyushimatsu cordyceps"

i think s3's bit is, if there is one, at best, "there is no joke. we deadass just haven't done anything of value". which i just don't think is a good bit. it's one note, it's not versatile, and it gets dangerously close to being at the audience's expense- i think you can convey the lethargy and sisyphean existence without also making the audience feel like they wasted their time (i.e. the absolute worst sin a piece of media could commit). So the bit isn't good and they're not even dedicated to it in a way that matters. 

"does there have to be a bit" well yes! I think so. it's a gag anime. i guess that's the crux of my argument. if you dont have the balls to commit to character development you MUST commit to the bit. i think s3 fell flat for me bc it couldnt commit to anything

i watched osomatsu-san with a dear friend of mine who, bless their heart, still can't tell the sextuplets apart 3 seasons 2 mini serieses every bonus episode and 4 movies later. but they could still enjoy s1 and s2 because the matsus and their personalities were vehicles for the punchline- not the focus. as soon as they started writing about the matsus themselves and losing sight of the Bigger Picture (the bit) they got very lost. and im aware theyre an outliar viewer but i don't think it's unrelated. 

i think mt takao is a good summary of this issue. there's no bit- we're just slice of life moments with the brothers. but then tbey feel like they need to make a joke, lest people start expecting them to actually let these boys find happiness, so they just do a "and then we all died, jk, we can't actually accomplish anything of value" punchline at the end. it's a disservice to people who are invested in the characters, and for people who aren't, it's just not funny!

omusubi thoughts: theyre cutes. i could tell watching them that they were probably quite disliked for derailing the season so i immediately became like, fans in a hater way. lol 

i think their core bit is good: showa anime meets modern robots who don't Get It. but their storyline doesn't tie into their Bit, and its attempted tie-ins with the sextuplets never emotionally resonated. episode 12 was, affectionately, a huge waste of time (though the sheeh payoff made me woop and holler) considering i couldnt even get over my suspension of disbelief that the sextuplets would actually give a shit enough about them as People to bust their asses saving them (which, after their self actualization, they clearly still were treating them like machines. so it's like yeah i knew that shit was fake)

but like yeah after that they weren't their Bit anymore. they just became characters. maybe that's the summary of my issue w s3? no one is their Bit anymore. everyone's so attached to the Characters now that no one values the Bit anymore. we've gone so far into gap moe that ichimatsu isnt even scary anymore. if rental girlfriends had happened in s3 it'd be totty with the tiger cage 

but anyways. omusubi are interesting to me because i said earlier how s3 doesnt want to commit to anything, but it does seem like they wanted to commit to telling full character arcs, but had trapped the sextuplets into a Popularity-Induced Personality Prison where they've become too popular to meaningfully change, so they tried to do it with new characters and side charas (nyaa single mother arc peak). so like… i enjoyed the omusubi character arc bc it was at least something solid to grasp onto in this season with writing more fleeting than sand 

(but again, it still got invalidated and didn't matter in the end!)

in the end it is hard to cheer for characters if you know fucking nothing will matter in the end (very similar to my aggretsuko review i wrote in my head and didn't post anywhere), so if they're not at least funny about it i'm like What's the point.

a faustian tale, etc  

[tibbycaps]

omg ur an ososan fan? effervescent

yaaaa!! i was obsessed w it when seasons 1 and 2 came out but i dont think i ever watched season 3 (i think theres a season 3)

[grimmshood]

OK. my collection. putting under readmore bc its just details of what i have

61 albums, fuck ton of posters and postcards (some from albums and some are freebies from keychains i bought) , my little binder has 146 photocards (including fanmade ones), and 2 lightsticks (shinee and loona).

i have 4 out of 8 skzoo plushies (i dont really want the rest tbh, puppym and hanquokka were gifts) 2 furbies with batteries taken out (mr blue sky is fully working, msslimer has a broken voice. both of them just get too annoying when theyre on but i still love them) 2 oui ouis (tomato is not named, shitter oui is named taemin) the., oui oui tadpole thing (named yeojin) and you cannot see but bang chan is standing in front of the 6 card decks i have (all diff themes, favs are my f13, pmmm and dbd card decks) little unicorn kitty plush is named charlotte and i got her from one of my buddies :)

i will literally never use my trickster candle i just sniff it sometimes

not pictured are my loona summer pckge and skz seasons greetings bc theyre boring to look at, my poster tubes (onew dice + circle, 4 key posters, 1 xh overload and the 2023 smcu shinee) and my stack of folded posters (3 key, 2 skz, and 3 loona) and the rest of my loona seasons greetings is off somewhere bc my dumbass threw away the box when i got it. also my pinboard and figures but ive posted my figures already and my pinboard is empty except for some dbd and ososan keychains and various tiny pins i have. theres also a bunch of other plushies but i dont really count them in this and i have 2 bts cupsleeves from cupsleeve events (idgaf abt bts but. i have them) also loona fabric poster i have hanging on my lights and my trickster fan. my trickster plushy sits on my desk next to super sucklet and my wife figures.

the cd holder has all the cds from these albums (so somewhere around 61 except some albums had multiple cds and one album is a cassette tape so it doesnt really go in there)

i flipped off my skz poster bc the top corner always wants to fall off the fucking wall and i haved to put it up with duct tape bc it kept falling down.

i would put up my other posters like the key ones but my parents wont let me so the small ones in my closet and on my bookshelf are all i really have. Maybe one day like 20 years from now if im still kicking

[muppetmatsu]

I’m actually a fake ososan fan. I haven’t seen all of season 2 even though it’s been 5 years

[osomatsusan2015]

if you sent a message to this blog in the past year (or literally ever) i'm sorry i never saw it, since I primarily used tumblr on my cell phone after I graduated high school... someone mentioned I was getting reblogged by an alleged groomer and I won't publish the ask since it was pretty old but I did block them. they weren't on my activity page at all but it was from several months ago after all.

this was always just a reblog account more than it was anything else (as much as I would have loved to make original content, it just wasn't something I ever had the energy for); but if you liked my silly blog even when the url was thinkinboutthatneet then i'm glad.

i never thought my interest in ososan would wane especially since my other interests are so... everlasting. i still care for it a great deal, it's just not as big a part of my life anymore. I never even finished season 2 or watched the movie. I think I got close to finishing, but I stopped right at the last episode. you know how sometimes you put off finishing a game or show because you don't want it to end? yeah.

i have a lot of good memories of the ososan fandom, even if it was a true mess of a community. but I always kept to myself so thankfully I only ever saw that mess from the sidelines. anyway, it's crazy that we've come such a long way. when i was looking at this blog's activity, there was this little alert:

like shit. god damn. i wasn't very active for the past few years, but I can't believe it's been that long. I mean, i changed my @ to osomatsu2015 a few months ago or something so I knew, but it's still crazy. like i said, i never had the energy to post original content, but almost everything i was drawing at the time was ososan. i have so much art that i never posted... this stupid show was a part of me.

im not sure how to end this post; i just was going through my blog settings and activity when i saw the asks i got and then this notif^ and decided to reminisce... so if youre seeing this thank you for reading and thank you for following my little blog. these stupid neets were important to me and in many ways they still are.