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#scott pilgrim#bryan lee o'malley#ramona flowers#sex bob omb#kim pine#scott+pilgrim#stephen stills#out of context#out of context scott pilgrim#admin kim
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trans scott pilgrim moments
#doodlebug says things#scott pilgrim#transgender#trans scott pilgrim#i know that the bathroom one is out of context but sh shhhhh#banger#super banger#banger banger hall of famer
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#ygo#yugioh#manga#out of context#yami marik#anzu mazaki#scott pilgrim vs the world#<= thats the reference#i changed one of the text bubbles
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🕵️ Just one more thing, Mr. Pilgrim🔎
I would let her solve my cold case any day. Reference: [X]
#scott pilgrim#neo's art tag#ramona flowers#any columbo stans in the chat#i've only seen out of context clips so i apologize for being a fake fan#but i've been wanting to draw ramona forever so i'm glad i got around to finishing this hhhh
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happy late new year here's 4
#discord#discord chat#out of context discord#discord shenanigans#autism server#shitposting#scott pilgrim#scott pilgrim because lucian has problems
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little peek at somethjing i am cooking up ...
#this is rlly rough but rn im just blocking everything out#i have like 6.5 pages sketched so far this is already going faster than last time i think..^_^#im having a blast also#im tryna rewire my brain . every time i think Blehhh i hate drawing i just want to see it done i gotta stop n correct myself#like Hey wait you actually love drawing why are you telling yourself this The process is frustrating sometimes but that comes with art#i had to redraw this one page like 4 separate times and i still didn't feel like giving up#like yeah i was feeling pressed but at the same time i was being patient with myself#like this is part of improving Stop laying on the floor and wondering why you're even doin this you've always loved it#only drawing when u know it's gonna turn out good defeats the whole purpose of learning#also i added cal last minute to this comic and im gladi did he's so creeepy#im very excited to get this done Not impatient like i was before#im impatient for people to see it yeah lol but not w myself#and im not gonna be all like “yeah we'll see how long this lasts lol” bc i think that's already setting myself up for burning out#i have hope that i can keep enjoying art like this I just need to change the way i think#and accept the messy n ugly. the perfect is the enemy of the good#aaron blaise really inspires me. he sincerely loves what he does and i want to be like that#this is also gonna be more comic-like Panelwise i think#scott pilgrim n my bro inspired me#also the way cal's face cuts off on the right makes sense in context he's peekin from behind a chair
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#scott pilgram vs the world#nega scott#scott pilgrim#scott+pilgrim#bryan lee o'malley#out of context screenshots#out of context chats#out of context#incorrect quotes
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Bros a pedo 😣
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do I need to watch the Scot Pilgrim movie before I watch the new animated series that just came out?
#little something ⌞🐚🐁⌝#scott pilgrim#scott pilgram vs the world#scott pilgram takes off#like i know nothing about Scott pilgrim#but the art style and animation of the animated series looks really nice so i wanna check it out#But I’m not sure if by watching only the anime I’ll be missing out on important context
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So I've seen a few too many people on twitter talking about The Kiss Scene from the new Scott Pilgrim anime. People saying it's fetishistic and indulgent, people calling it male gazey, etc. And while the kiss itself is certainly a bit exaggerated, I felt like writing a bit about why I disagree, and why context is important, like it always is. But it basically turned into an extended analysis on the metatextual treatment of Roxie Richter. So bear with me. It's a long post.
What really matters about this scene is not the kiss itself, but what precedes it. Not even just the fight scene just before it, but what precedes the whole anime series, really. And that's the Scott Pilgrim comic book, and the live action movie. Because in both, Roxie is a punchline.
She's a joke. Her character starts and ends with "one of the exes is actually a girl, I bet you didn't expect that." Jokes are made about Ramona's latent bisexuality, the movie especially treating it as funny and absurd, and her validity as a romantic interest is entirely written off by Ramona as being "just a phase." There's a fight scene, she's defeated by a man giving her an orgasm which implicitly calls her sexuality into question (come on), and the movie just moves on. It sucks. It really, really sucks.
The comic fares a little better. It never veers into outright homophobia like the movie does, and while the line about Ramona having gone through a phase remains, Roxie actually gets one over on Scott when Ramona briefly gets back with Roxie. But Roxie is still only barely a character. Like all the other evil exes, she's just a stepping stone towards the male protagonist's development. She barely even gets any screentime before she's defeated by Scott's "power of love." But Roxie stands out, since she's the only villain who is queer, or at least had been confirmed queer at that point (hi Todd). In a series that champions multiple gay men in the supporting cast, the single undeniable lesbian in the story is a villain. She's labeled as evil, made fun of, pushed aside in favor of the men, and then discarded. Her screentime was never about her, or her feelings for Ramona. It was about the straight, male protagonist needing to overcome her. And that was Roxie Richter. An unfortunate victim of the 2010s.
Fast forward to current year, and the new anime series is announced. Everybody sits down to watch the new series expecting another retelling of the same story, and.... hang on, that straight male protagonist I mentioned just died in the first episode. And now it's humanizing the villains from the original story. And there's Roxie, introduced alongside the other evil exes in the second episode, and she's being played entirely straight, without a punchline in sight. No jokes are made about her gender, no questions are made of her validity as one of Ramona's romantic interests. The narrative considers her important. In one episode, she already gets more respect than she did in either of the previous iterations of Scott Pilgrim. And this isn't even her focus episode yet... which happens to be the very next one.
The anime series goes to great lengths to flesh out the original story's villains and to have Ramona reconcile with them. And I don't think it's a coincidence that Roxie gets to go first. While Matthew Patel gets his development in episode 2, Roxie is the first to directly confront Ramona, now our main protagonist. This is notable too because it's the only time the exes are encountered out of order. Roxie is supposed to be number 4, but she's first in line, and later on you realize that she's the only one who's out of sequence. She's the one who sets the precedent for the villains being redeemed. She's the most important character for Ramona to reconcile with.
What follows is probably the most extensive, elaborate 1 on 1 fight scene in the whole show. Roxie fights like a wounded animal, her motions are desperate and pained. Ramona can only barely fight back against her onslaught. Different set-pieces fly by at breakneck speed as Roxie relentlessly lays her feelings at Ramona's feet through her attacks and her distraught shouts. And unlike the comic or the movie, Ramona acknowledges them, and sincerely apologizes. And the two end up just laying there, exhausted, reminiscing about when they were together.
Only after this, after all of this, does the kiss scene happen. Roxie has been vindicated, she has reconciled with the person who hurt her, the narrative has deemed that her anger is justified and has redeemed her character. And she gets her victory lap by making the nearest other hot girl question her heterosexuality, sharing a sloppy kiss with her as the music triumphantly crescendos.
It's... a little self-congratulatory, honestly. But it's good. It's redemption for a character who had been mistreated for over a decade. And she punctuates the moment by being very, very gay where everyone can see it, no men anywhere in sight. Because this is her moment. And then she leaves the plot, on her own accord this time, while humming the hampster dance. What a legend. How could anything be wrong with this.
#scott pilgrim#spto#scott pilgrim takes off#roxie richter#roxanne richter#scott pilgrim spoilers#spto spoilers
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scott pilgrim's creator read my mind like 20 years ago when writing the comic i need s lawyer
#txt#BAHAJDKD NOO THIS CANT BE#ok for context a little tid bit kf lore: in phae the mc gains a roommate at the end who is. fucjking hell.#A CHILL BLACK HAIRED GAY MAN#****AND**** THE MC HAS TO SLEEP IN THE SAME BED AS HIM FOR A LITTLE BIT BC PLOT#IM RIPPING NY HAIR OUT#WHEN ILL RELEASE THIS THING AND IT TURNS OUT THAT I INCIDENTALLY COPIED THE WHOLE PLOT OF#SCOTT PILGRIM (WITHOUT THE FANTASY) 1:1 IM GONNA SCREWM#WEREWOLF RIPPING OFF CLOTHES DOT JPRG
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#scott pilgrim#scott+pilgrim#scott pilgram vs the world#kim pine#bryan lee o'malley#ramona flowers#sex bob omb#out of context scott pilgrim#out of context#incorrect quotes
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i always get a little sad when people tell me they like scollace from just my fan art and haven't checked out any of the source material because like nothing i make is going to ever fully represent their dynamic and the joy of shipping to me is really engaging with the canon material and going crazy over breaking down the crumbs of content. and it's a nice comic series! even just watching the anime you're missing out on a lot without context from the comics.
so i guess for the record for anyone who's interested but don't know where to start, /especially/ if you're just here for roommate yaoi. start with the comics. it's the most "scollace-heavy" and it's only 6 books. starting with the anime would probably leave you really confused on why anyone ships them (or what's going on if this is your first exposure to scott pilgrim media) the movie is a fine entrance piece also, imho. like it lets you in on the dynamics between each character and the general plot (even though the characterization is pretty boiled down, but hey a lot of shots are 1:1 to the comics so that's fun.) but yeah. don't let my silly gay drawings dictate your shipping takes. read the books yourself! they're fun and if you're a fresh adult that still feels perma-14 you'll probably find it fun too.
also they're stupidly domestic all the time
#siu talks#i always associate the comics w that awkward feeling of being an adult but not really#but still navigating life and relationships and all that jazz#so i have no idea why the movie and anime are both more focused on these larger than life characters and ridiculous fights#when in the comics they are more secondary to the slice of life stuff#and every ex is sort of a device to present the next challenge in scottmona's relationship#so yeah just some thoughts ive had#scollace
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So What are your Issues with Scott Pilgrim? Parts that have not aged well? Stuff you think are missing opportunities? or the Fact that Scott is a bad person, did you know that
I don’t have too many serious issues! When it comes to the comics, it’s primarily that it’s an indie comic from the mid 2000s about an average gamer dude and has some hang ups that come with that specific period of indie comics and gamer dude culture. The movie is where the issues get more complicated, since I like the movie a lot but I feel like it lost a lot of the character depth to (understandably) fit it all into a two hour movie, which in turn makes Scott and Ramona into way more flat characters, in a weird way turning them into the exact trope that the comic was trying to go against. This isn’t helped by the fact that the movie was being made before books 5 and 6 came out, so a lot of the weight of the ending just couldn’t be properly reflected or played with in the film. And because of this, at times it makes Scott Pilgrim feel like a precursor to Ready Player One, a story about how cool it would be if video games were real and you got a hot girl, versus what Scott Pilgrim actually is, a story about a bunch of young 20 somethings who frame their existence in the context of video games as a way to craft their own important narrative about their own life and portray a form of arrested development.
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The best thing to come out of the Scott Pilgrim anime is people referring to the SP comics as 'the manga'. Like, I know "Oh, you should read the manga!" is a common refrain in regards to anime, but seeing it in the context of Scott Pilgrim is unreasonably funny to me.
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Scott Pilgrim Takes Off was nothing I expected and basically everything I could’ve wanted from an anime based off it. Would I love a straight forward adaptation? Sure, but seeing the Exes and all the side characters get infinitely more fleshed out was well worth it. That first episode twist hit so hard I thought it was just going to be a joke, but I’m glad it went in the direction that it did!
Also shoutout to the Mobile appearance and Young Neil in general
And lastly the moment that sums up how half the fan base feels right now:
(Shoutout to my roommates for watching it with no context and my partner for reading the books in preparation)
#scott pilgrim#scott pilgrim takes off#I forgot to say but the animation is gorgeous#animated adaptations are top tier#spto spoilers
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