#pcreply

[project-canada]

HELLO FROM CAPE BRETON haha... Hi, Project-Canada I LOVE your work and I was wondering. Seeing as Hetalia FINALLY has a new Season after all these years and the Fandom is re-awakening I was wondering if you guys would make a come back too??? <3

Hi there from the wild west! I’m so glad that you enjoy this, or whatever is left of it.

In terms of our original ambition as a youtube project I’m sad to say the answer is no. I don’t think people realize how absolutely unwieldy projects like this are with a wide cast of characters, technical difficulties, a lack of a strong vision/core group of writers and artists, etc. The sad truth of the matter is it’s difficult to find the required number of people who are willing and able to stick through a project like that to the end and then do it all over again, and again, and again. It was still hard in 2009 for us in IAMP at what I feel was the fandom’s peak and I don’t have any interest in reviving the project in that form. On top of school and work and the pandemic, it could be as crushing as it could be liberating for some. Even here when I propose having little art and writing challenges I get little to no response, so I’m mostly content to just sit back and share the work you guys choose to share with me when you’re ready to do so.

However, I’m used to sitting in the centre of this network and saying hello to new fans of IAMP and whatever the heck we had going on here and I’m happy to continue reblogging your fanworks featuring ctcsherry’s characters so we can find each other. I’m cool with talking about my own perspectives and avenues for stories to get those creative juices flowing and occasionally i even draw Serious Comics, I’m just not interested in holding anyone to a schedule or doing the heavy administrative labour involved with the old projects. I still occasionally post my own headcanons and stuff (and once in a blue moon i do VA stuff for my original roles lol) on my main blog @allbeendonebefore​ and you guys are welcome to hit me up any time to reminisce or send me your weird memes :)

stay groovy and give’r bud

Hapo

[kielanplays]

Metal: Hellinger an amazing Rhythm Shooter!

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

@mxdreemurr replied to your post: @mxdreemurr replied to your post: ...

I didn’t mean to say you shouldn’t change it if you want ! ! ! I just wanted to let you know while also making a pun !

...i completely missed the pun hfkshk. a really good pun! papyrus would sure appreciate it!

and it’s fine, i was very indecisive but seeing that other people found it iconic (heh), i think i’ll stick with it for a little while longer

[project-canada]

What's Saskatchewan's actual canon human last name? I remember it used to be Williams in the old project, but nowadays I've seen Douglas or Carswell being used as his last name.

Hi there,

Saskatchewan never received a full canon name in the course of IAMP, only an affirmation that there would be a reference to Tommy or Douglas as his first or last name. All other names were fanon and Williams was just a placeholder.

During Project Canada, Owen was a popular fanon name that was accepted as his first name. While I don't know where Carswell came from and have never heard that used for him in either project, I do know that there was some debate in ProCan about Colwell (not sure where it came from either) vs. Douglas. I believe we did finally make his name Owen Douglas in the end, but I would have to dig up screencaps from the now defunct forum via the Wayback machine.

Personally, I preferred Douglas because we had already decided there would be a reference back in IAMP. My collaborators from Sask during ProCan also liked Gabriel as a first name, so I had typically thought of him as Gabriel Douglas.

I'm sorry if this is rather unhelpful; in short, Saskatchewan is one of the characters who never received an official name from Sherry and all names are fanon for now even though we had made a commitment to a Tommy Douglas reference in IAMP. You're welcome to choose the combination you like best for your own purposes.

Hapo

[kielanplays]

Soulstice Hack and Slash with Spirit Sister.

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

@lookitsausername replied to your post: in today’s news, i kill the world because...

hey i did this yesterday, I’m starting pacifist again today

0w0b have fun!

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

<333 :D

art friends

[project-canada]

I have a Headcanon that the reason Mani wears gloves is because he is secretly a germophobe

here i just assumed its so he doesnt get blood on his hands from slapping mosquitos

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

@icykali replied to your post “Hi, I have a question about sanster. Now that there’s..."

Thank you! That's all true, I forgot that the intrinsic and extrinsic stuff is different, and that nothing has been shown yet... I feel better about it now. I've been out of the fandom for a while, but who knows? I might end up submitting cute sanster stuff to you in the future! Keep an eye socket out!

Ahhh, do it, I’d be delighted!! ;w; <3 Though I would suggest posting it yourself so you can get all the credit you deserve, though I will of course reblog it~ (unless you have a reason not to, in that case my submissions box is open! :D)

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

heck yeah!

Htjdjdjd what if,,,, I made a YouTube video going into the deep lore undertale,,,,

Would anyone want to help me with the writing of it...

(Obvs I wont be making money off it lmao it's just for fun)

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

Yeah but, it doesn’t sound wrong. In fact, “bad big wolf” sounds wrong, doesn’t it? I’m not a native speaker, but my guess would be that “bad wolf” is a phrase in and of itself, and so the “big” is added before it so as to not split up the phrase.

things english speakers know, but don’t know we know.

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

Hmm, I actually went and checked the sprites, and interestingly enough, Sans doesn’t have a battle sprite where he’s winking with his usual eye. So, I really wouldn’t take this as a sign of anything, it could just be that Toby didn’t bother to flip the sprite, especially when it feels more natural for Sans to look at Toriel with the eye that’s closer to her.

That moment you notice…it’s not that sans is interested in Toriel by winking. He is looking at her with his KILLER LEFT EYE. Isn’t that what he does in genocide route? He usually winks with his left eye at Frisk. Winking that that killer left eye to avoid killing Frisk in any other route. And yet he is looking at her with that eye and winking in his right?

He is actually WARY of Toriel. And despite even recognising her voice he is looking at her this way?

…what the hell sans?

Look I know you two became pun buds but what the hell man

I’m still reeling from my aborted genocide run so I need to think about this carefully later

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

eh, they were already dead, i just finished the job ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Ok so i didn't have internet for most of yesterday, but i could've told you that Flowey still says everything is fine even if Chara murders everything, and nobody would've had to have died. (events that have soulless-pacifist specific variants contain the variable "self. death" in their obj files and check the save data for system_information_963. obj_endflowey_regret doesn't.) :P --- doge-w-a-bloge

You didn’t have to do it @itsrainingsomewhereelse no one had to die @itsrainingsomewhereelse

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

hmm, you of course have some very good points!

i wouldn't say Toriel commits "sensless violence". I think her whole "fight me or leave" thing was an attempt to scare Frisk away until she can destroy the door, which may have gotten out of hand. she does stop hurting them when they come close to dying, so I don't think she meant to seriously hurt them.

i have been thinking today about how exactly damage to Frisk manifests, and i had an interesting idea. do magical attacks really damage a human's body? we know physical attacks hurt monsters, as can be seen when Frisk kills them, but what about magical attacks?

well, we've seen how they affect monsters a couple of times. mad dummy gets hurt by their own magic attacks, but we don't see any damage on their body (though, they aren't fused to it yet, so I guess maybe not the best example). Toriel shoots fireballs at both Flowey and Asgore, and we don't see any physical damage on them.

another time we see someone attack a monster with magical attacks is when Flowey shatters Asgore's soul. but, he didn't attack Asgore's body!

so, what if magical attacks hurt the soul, and not the body? it doesn't seem like too much of a stretch, and as far as I know right now there isn't anything to disprove it? please correct me if I'm wrong.

if that is the case, i think it would change how the monsters see their battles with Frisk, and how much those battles hurt them. although, we do know monsters can see when Frisk is hurt, as both Toriel and Mettaton's battle demonstrates. still, how much of that damage is actual physical harm? or is it just 'soul damage'?

i'd love some info to disprove or confirm this, i'll look into it myself when I come home!

tbh there’s some… questions about undertale’s plot that i still need answered. like, i really wonder whether getting a game over represents death. it doesn’t feel like it’s within the m.o. of most monsters to want to kill you—and even those that do recognise Frisk as human and want to harm them for that, do so because the king is meant to have their SOUL. so why do they let Frisk’s SOUL shatter—especially Undyne?

relatedly—why doesn’t Frisk ever take Asgore’s or Toriel’s SOUL? by the time they face Asgore, Alphys has already said that a boss monster’s SOUL is needed to bypass the barrier. surely that should be a choice, at least, but both Asgore and Toriel have the same death animation that you do.

back on topic: Toriel fights Frisk in order to protect them. she’s visibly horrified if she does lethal damage, so what exactly happens between those moments to warrant that shift? a half-dead person isn’t any less distressing a sight than a corpse. (also, why does killing you so that Asgore wo’n’t kill you make any sense to her? what kind of caring mother so abuses the child who’s supposed to go home with her?)

is there a greater theme here?

in this game, it’s really easy to kill some one by accident. from half to zero in one turn. why?

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

I don't think we know enough about soul traits at all to come to any conclusions about them. I wouldn't rule out the possibility that every soul, regardless of colour, has its own trait, or that there are more colours than we've seen. Thing is, like with a lot of stuff, we just don't know. Maybe soul traits aren't even an important, in-universe thing, it could just be an idea that doesn't have much bearing outside characterizing the children a little, that's also a possibility.

I think that's red trait could rather be a neutral trait or a soul without a trait,after all, red's traits hosts use all of the other traits tactics to get the ball into the hole(which can be seen as metaphor of the goal's accomplishment) and "ball game"and "hole"are also written in red (while its can be because its an important thing or something but in the context of the "ball"game each colour corresponds to a trait)which suggests a some neutrality of this trait

I mean…I can’t really prove or disprove you there???? We really don’t know for certain how soul traits work, or even if they have any meaning in-universe.

I just…prefer to go with Occam’s Razor for theories. Theories that don’t require making up too many things from wholecloth, but are instead reasonable conjecture based on whatever is explicit or strongly implied by the text.

It’s simpler to assume that human souls stay the color they are their whole lives, since all of the fallen humans are strongly implied to be children.

“Hole“ and “Ball Game“ being separate lines of text, and associated with separate states of being for the ball-game hole, suggests they represent two separate soul traits or states of being, rather than representing the same trait.

I do think it’s likely that there are only seven soul colors, since each one corresponds roughly to Isaac Newton’s “seven colors of the rainbow“:

(with Newton’s “indigo” being labeled “blue,” and Newton’s “blue” being labeled “light blue”)

But it’s entirely possible that the “virtues“ just correspond to the specific souls of the fallen humans, rather than every human soul that ever bore that color.

I mean, it IS the best, likeliest assumption. But I find it weird that you point only to the Ball Game, which is specifically about the fallen children (blue associated with ballet dancing, purple with taking notes, green with delicious food, etc.)

(Also, how can there be seven traits if red is the lack of a trait? Isn’t that contradictory?)

I kind of don’t know what else to say… @uselessundertalefacts, @itsrainingsomewhereelse, @officiallilith? You got anything to add?

[itsrainingsomewhereelse]

hello america, i am back from dreamland to read this

sounds like you've got an issue that's currently rocking the boat. good! from an outsider's perspective, i've seen these things building for years now, and i'm glad people are feeling it. just make sure you take care of yourself, too! don't tie your happiness to what others are doing – go watch those fireworks because they're a beautiful show and you might miss them later, or don't go watch them because you have something better to do!

take care <3

me at 3 am: hello america? i am Here.