#phipps and grey

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A little throwback haha

I did this two years ago. Enjoy

[zixinwonderland]

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[sebastianthemadlad]

Who do you think will die in future chapters of Black Butler?

I know I've already made a similar post theorising over how Black Butler will end but I'm very interested in Black Butler fan theories at the moment.

I'm gonna be explaining who I think will die in the future and why, some may have more detailed explanations than others since sometimes I just have hunches a character will die and sometimes I have better reasons to think so and I may also go into how I think they will die.

(warning: spoilers for a lot of the story)

1. Elizabeth Midford

There are 2 main reasons I think Lizzy will die, 1 is that I just have a hunch, Lizzy is a sweet girl but we've seen that no matter how sweet you are in the Black Butler universe there is a huge chance you will die (cough cough Agni).

And also there is a bit of foreshadowing in episode 6 (I think) of Book Of Circus. During one of fake Ciel's monologue flashbacks it shows him sitting on top of a throne with dead bodies of familiar characters beneath him. Most of the characters are characters who had already died before then such as Madame Red and Vincent, but when rewatching that scene I realised Lizzy was there as well. Could that be foreshadowing Lizzy will die in the future?

Maybe the next time she sees the fake Ciel he'll try to kill her as revenge for basically pretending to be the real Ciel, therefore Sebastian will have to come in and protect him, maybe even killing Lizzy or the least severely injuring her (and after that Undertaker could turn her into a bizarre doll or something)

2. Soma

This is definitely more of a hunch than evidence. Soma hasn't been in the manga in almost 100 chapters and we haven't seen him since 2017, the last time we saw him he was grieving over Agni's death.

I'm pretty sure he'll come back since it's not really like Yana Toboso to write off a character and never bring them back unless they canonically died or something, we've seen characters not appear for a while and then return (like majority of the grim reapers, Fred Abberline, sometimes even the servants like Meyrin, Finny and Bard if the current arc doesn't focus on them much and more on other characters like Ciel and Sebastian)

If he does come back I have a feeling he may die, I'm not really sure how though, like maybe he'll mistake Real Ciel for Fake Ciel and will be like "wait a moment why isn't Ciel wearing his eyepatch?" Or something like that and real Ciel will assassinate him to avoid suspicion.

Speaking of Real and Fake Ciel, I wonder how Soma would react if he found out all about that. I mean him and Fake Ciel are basically best friends, would he feel betrayed? Or if Fake Ciel explained why he did it would he forgive him?

3. John Brown, Charles Phipps and Grey

Sorry for including 3 characters in one, it's because these 3 are a trio and I feel like they'll all die for the same reasons.

So, if you haven't noticed or haven't watched the non canon parts of the black butler S1 anime, there are a lot of hints to what happens in the future of the manga despite most of the anime being released prior to those events.

Examples: an animal based servant (in the anime it was Pluto, a dog man and in the manga/canon parts it was Snake, who looks like a snake and can talk to snakes), the servants backstories (while some changes were made in the anime, all of the backstories were mostly the same, Meyrin was an assassin, Finny was an experiment and Bard was a soldier in a brutal war) and Undertaker being revealed to be a grim reaper

Due to all of this I have a theory that John, Phipps and Grey are all angels. Why? Well in the anime Queen Victoria had a servant dressed in white named Ash who was later revealed to be an angel and was the main villain of season 1.

What does Ash have in common with John, Phipps and Grey? They all wear white and they all work for the Queen, they also started out as characters you probably think weren't as important to the story but then later became antagonists.

It also gives Charles Grey more of a reason to stab Sebastian in the murder mystery arc, maybe the whole time he knew Sebastian was a demon? And maybe that's why he wasn't so suspicious when he found Sebastian was alive on the Campania.

I've also sensed that both Grey and Phipps had a bit of a grudge towards Ciel and Sebastian. At first I thought it was because of what happened in the circus arc (which is why the whole murder mystery arc happened), but even after Ciel proved himself they both continued to be a bit iffy around them... Again could this be because they know Sebastian is a demon?

Ash died at the end of season 1 after his evil plot to purify the world by setting London on fire (yeah I don't know why either season 1 had a lot of plot holes) since John, Grey and Phipps are all possible alternative versions of Ash I'm about 90% sure they'll also be killed by Sebastian.

4. Queen Victoria

Sort of the same reason behind why I think John, Phipps and Grey will die, except for this one I have less evidence.

Unlike in the anime, there hasn't been very much foreshadowing that Queen Victoria has made a contract with her 3 angelic servants or even knows they may be angels. However near the end of season 1 in the anime, Ash kills her because she became impure since she didn't want to be cleansed after the part of her body that was Albert began to rot.

I'm not sure if that'll be the reason for her death in the manga since unlike the anime her grief over Albert is usually played for comedic affect (like when John Brown used a doll of Albert to cheer Victoria up) but maybe there will be another reason. If she doesn't know her servants are angels but later finds out, they may kill her. Or maybe she'll just be killed by Ciel and Sebastian for some reason.

5. Real Ciel

I think the majority of us theorize he will die, he's a bizarre doll after all and almost every bizarre doll in the story has been killed, also he's sort of one of the main antagonists now after he exposed Fake Ciel for pretending to be him after death.

Again I'm not sure how he'll die exactly, but I'm about 90% sure he will die

[natsuki208]

Correct me if I’m wrong but… are these guys suppose to be the canon versions of Ash and Angela? Something about them reminds me of the angels.

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Older Ciel, Edward, Charles and Undertaker when their s/o surprises them after adopting an orphan- could be a friend passed and didn't have any family to take the little one in. (I have THE CUDDLIEST 1 year old in class right now and omgosh! 😍😍😍 love her so!!)

awwwwww!! <3

didn't know which Charles you wanted (Grey or Phipps) so I just did em both :D

Hmph, well… he isn’t necessarily thrilled by the whole thing. It’s not as if he hates the idea of having a child; it’s just that he doesn’t really feel like he’s able to be a good father. He’s just rather at a loss of how to react. He tries to be very quiet about it, neither showing any excessive joy nor any true dislike of the situation. It also depends on the age of the little one too — he takes far better to an infant or a toddler than a slightly older child. Although he’s busy, he very much does bond with the child in his own way. And he absolutely cares about them. He certainly doesn’t begrudge his S/O for taking them in, even if he might struggle to adjust.

Oh, dear… what a terrible tragedy to have happened. Even if it means this wonderful little child gets to come into their lives, it’s a shame it had to happen this way. Still, he embraces the change, despite the fact that it’s somewhat difficult to learn how to be a parent. His whole life has led up to getting married and having children with his S/O, (as well as following in his family’s footsteps in general), but he finds that he’s not as ready as he thought he was when it happens so suddenly. He loves the little one as if they were his own, though. He spends as much time with them and with his beloved as he can… having someone else to provide for, however, makes him work twice as hard to be able to take care of their new child.

Ah… goodness… he’ll definitely be sure to say a prayer for the little one’s original family. Of course, as bad as it sounds out loud, he sort of views the new child as sort of a… test run? Yes, that sounds terrible! Which is why he probably won’t say it. As excited as he is about starting a family, he’s quite a bit nervous about the kind of parent he’s going to be. Having it thrust on him and his S/O somehow bypasses all his anxiety, because they have no choice but to take care of this child. They have to find a way. So, find a way he will. He’s more than capable of looking after both of them, so all that remains is to bond with the little one. Easier said than done… he’s determined to make it happen, though.

… It’s awful, what happened. And it’s quite a surprise to come home from a long day and abruptly find himself a father. Though, he’s mostly the type to just silently accept things as they are — no amount of questioning or worry or anything will change the reality of what is. So he gently takes the child from his S/O, because he doesn’t know exactly how long they’ve been dealing with the little one as well as their own emotions, and tries to take care of them for the rest of the night. He adjusts fairly well, all things considered; there’s no one who would look at him and think he wasn’t suited to be a father, even if he might doubt himself sometimes. Even though he’s not talkative, he is very much an incredible parent.

Lord, what a way to become a parent! He tries desperately to find the humor in it, but even he knows there really isn’t any. Anything he jokes about, he’ll immediately bite his tongue following it, knowing any joke is in poor taste at least for a while. Thankfully, he’s seen enough death now to know how best to deal with it, so if his S/O is grieving, he’s glad to take care of the little one for a while. He has nothing else to do, and he’s most assuredly a sucker for children, so why not give his darling a little break? He’s scared for the future, yet… he’s always wanted a family like this. If they’re going to take care of this child, he might as well give it a genuine try. Whatever else is true, he does try. He loves that child, even if he’s got a lot to learn.

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[blondeaxolotl]

Do you have any headcanon for what the Double Charles and John Brown would be in the Beastar Butler au?

Mhm I do! Charles Grey - Snowy Owl Charles Phipps - Polar Bear John Brown - Penguin

[deevotee]

i was already extremely suspicious of john brown but this chapter in the witch arc has pretty much almost confirmed for me that he is some type of supernatural being

i dont have the manga caps on hand because i dont want to get more spoilers for myself, but i do know there is a part of the manga where sebastian tells ciel he can make it seem as if his dead loved ones are actually alive through hallucinations or something similar, and i assume that it what's happening here with john and victoria

i think tho that the charles are very much human and normal, just very exceptionally talented, and they get confused by how quickly things get done around the earl, admitting that his servants are strange but we then see that john brown is able to get around extremely fast throughout europe as well (and i dont think its because of the queens trade lines) so they likely are not accomplices of his if they cant do this same level of travel and are mistified by it

also to add to this scene specifically, is sebastians reactions to john's words. he doesnt question how john actually got there if not by horse back and he does not question him being unaffected by the miasma, almost as if its an expectation that neither of those things would be a bother to him

he's also quite literal the way sebastian sometimes is with orders, john was given a very specific order and therefore he must see it done to such specifications

and i just have to say- it really does feel to me like they're talking with a bit of an inside joke going on, is it just me? the way seb smirks when he tells him to beware the wolfman, and the way john tells him to take care of the earl, idk it feels like they're recognizing the other's supernatural-ness and alluding to it

and we know sebastian is the type to withhold information on this type of thing because he has done it before, except this time instead of it being about a little game between them, he likely just doesnt think its a relevant fact that ciel needs to know so he just doesnt bring it up

im sure there may be more farther into the story but i could not stop thinking about this as soon as i read this chapter, ive had the theory john brown is supernatural for a while and i love seeing stuff proving me right

[abybweisse]

Hello! Hope you're having a nice day. I just wanted to ask something about Charles phipps because it's been one of my shower thoughts lol. So we know Charles grey is an earl right? How about Charles Phipps? I don't think there's a mention of his peerage title or anything. He's only called by 'sir' and if he was from a noble family afaik he would be called 'Lord'. Is it possible that he's not from a noble family? No one mentioned he was an earl or anything. It doesn't seem like he's the son of a noble either. Just very curious about this miniscule detail. '

Is Phipps a noble?

We must assume that Charles Phipps is in the nobility. And here's why: generally speaking, any high-ranking servant of the queen is going to be of high birth. Even the queen's chambermaids or ladies-in-waiting are in the peerage. Victoria even calls him Phipps, which places him higher than he would have been if she'd called him Charles.

Charles Grey becomes earl when his father dies, which occurs during the manga series. Idk Phipps' rank, but I suspect he might be even higher than an earl. However, if his father is still alive, he won't have the title just yet. He'd just be Lord Phipps... but the queen doesn't have to call him by that, and she definitely seems comfortable enough skipping the formality.

I have not noticed him being called sir, but if that's true, then he's knighted. And I'd believe it.

Anyway, that link also mentions how the court is filled by nepotism. Grey and Phipps likely got their positions because of their noble parents. They had to train, of course, and they must have various skills already, but they would have been selected among the sons of noble families.

[grey-and-stuff]

Happy White Day ya’ll 🤍🤍🤍

Old art, but hey, still gotta show some love to John Brown yes? Yes.

Grey and Phipps art (c) Yana Toboso

John Brown art (c) by me

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The fact that the director of BOA randomly decided to insert Grey and Phipps, letting them open with "the queen says we should find a partner and fall in love", for no apparent reason at all, just to make me the fans squeal, lives rent free in my head.