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Persona 6 Concept Part 4

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It’s been a little while, huh? I got a little stuck here, but here’s some more plot! And other things of interest, of course.

Has anyone noticed how I try to add pictures to all of these to keep away the drab and boring of long text posts?

Group Events/Hang Outs

Unlike in Persona 5, group events and hang outs will be a thing you can do, though only with your party members. Most of the time, you’ll be invited to go on them or take part in the group activity, but you can also start one just by gathering your party members like you would for any kind of infiltration. Here are some examples of group hang outs.

Waterfall - Considering that the waterfall is basically your own little hideout anyway, meeting up just to hang out away from anywhere adults or irritating people could find them seems like a thing these kids would do. Hence, the lake at the bottom of the waterfall. Though it’s no ocean, it’ll be a great spot to hang out and relax and swim with your friends during the summer. In the winter, you’ll probably be stuck in the cave or by a bonfire, but I’m sure you can find a way to have then too.

Birthdays - Was I the only one who thought that it was weird that they all have cannon birthdays, but none of them were mentioned in game? Not even in special, non-event dialogue (like how you’d mention the weather)? Well now, if a party member’s birthday will come to pass after you’ve met them, you’ll be messaged a week before about it by another friend. They’ll ask you to help plan the party, and if you agree, a week later you’ll automatically go to the party. If you agree, you’ll also get the option to buy that character a birthday present, and it’ll boost your relationship with them and get you closer to completing their next social rank.

Studying - The week before exams, an option will become available when the group meets up to study together. Everyone will convene at your place to do the studying, and it’ll boost your knowledge and may even have the chance of helping your classmates getting a higher score. (don’t count on it for the bigger idiots in your group)

Test of Courage - Going to the temple’s graveyard and participating in a test of courage with your friends would be a good way to spend a night that you don’t have anything else to do. You’ll be asked the night before, so the next day you’ll be free to do as you will, but that night your group will go to the graveyard.

Other - Things like going to the movies, exploring the forest, or going out to eat can all be turned into group activities as well. Unfortunately, things like the dojo, pond, and music store will be restricted to only one. You can go to the the hot springs with a group, but only with the team members who are your same gender.

Friends vs Lovers

I understand that some people have a problem with every love interest just automatically falling in love with the MC and seeming depressed when the MC rejects them. And I’m sure that Atlus would deem it too much work, but I’d like to add the possibility to not have depressed characters when they’ve been rejected. Stick with me, I hope I’ll be able to explain it better.

Some characters will be easy to romance no matter what gender you choose. Hoshiko is bisexual, Yūdai just likes the MC (could count him as demisexual if you’d like), Sayaka is easy because she’s the best friend, and Masaru is just extremely easy going about it (could count him as pansexual if you’d like). Characters like Masahiko, Jun, Akemi, Miyako, Natsuki, and Yato will be hesitant about dating someone their same gender and are not automatically attracted to both.

The way to working around it? During Rank 9 of your romance social links in Persona 5, you’d have to choose very specific choices to date them. Well, if we want to do this, we’ll have to extend that. Starting at Rank 5, we’re going to start romancing your love interest. Unless, of course, you’re trying to romance someone who’s straight.

There will be options with different points attached to them. Three points (+++), two (++), one (+), and zero (0). Obviously, +++ will make it easier to level up, but as you will see, you may prefer to use the + or 0 options. Have the same arcana on you as the character you’re trying to romance is, as always, beneficial and will likely work the same as it did in Persona 5.

Romancing characters who are unused to dating their same gender will require you to CONSISTENTLY get the highest points possible with each interaction from the get go. It would be best, and the easier option, to have the arcana when trying to romance these characters, though it’s not necessary. If you’ve chosen +++ options up to Rank 5, the romance route will be unlocked.

For all the romance options, from Rank 5 on, you’ve learned something big about your potential love interest, and now they’re closer to you than ever. For love interests that are open to dating both partners, ++ or +++ options will cause the love interests to fall in love with you (though, of course, the others will still need to be +++). + or 0 answers will lead you down the romance path. Interactions won’t change drastically, as that would be a LOT of extra coding, scripting, and general work, but tone, actions, and manner will change depending on whether you’re going down the lovers route or not.

If you choose to romance characters up to Rank 9, but then reject their confession, they will still be disappointed. Rightfully, this time. Because you made that choice.

Example time: Romancing Jun (male)

Rank 1: Choice 1 (+++), Choice 2 (+++), Choice 3 (+++)

Rank 2: Choice 1 (+++), Choice 2 (+++), Choice 3 (+++)

Rank 3: Choice 1 (+++), Choice 2 (+++), Choice 3 (+++)

Rank 4: Choice 1 (+++), Choice 2 (+++), Choice 3 (+++)

Rank 5: Choice 1 (+++), Choice 2 (+++), Choice 3 (+++)

Rank 6: Choice 1 (+++), Choice 2 (+++), Choice 3 (+++)

Rank 7: Choice 1 (+++), Choice 2 (+++), Choice 3 (+++)

Rank 8: Choice 1 (+++), Choice 2 (+++), Choice 3 (+++)

Rank 9: Choice 1 (Romance), Choice 2 (Romance), Choice 3 (Romance)

Rank 10: Dating

Because you are male, and Jun does not actively like guys, if you get even one of those choices any less than +++, then you’re not gonna be able to date him. Not choosing the corrected (Romance) options will result in failure and you will not be able to date him.

Example time: Romancing Jun (female)

Rank 1: Choice 1 (0/+/++/+++), Choice 2 (0/+/++/+++), Choice 3 (0/+/++/+++)

Rank 2: Choice 1 (0/+/++/+++), Choice 2 (0/+/++/+++), Choice 3 (0/+/++/+++)

Rank 3: Choice 1 (0/+/++/+++), Choice 2 (0/+/++/+++), Choice 3 (0/+/++/+++)

Rank 4: Choice 1 (0/+/++/+++), Choice 2 (0/+/++/+++), Choice 3 (0/+/++/+++)

Rank 5: Choice 1 (++/+++), Choice 2 (++/+++), Choice 3 (++/+++)

Rank 6: Choice 1 (++/+++), Choice 2 (++/+++), Choice 3 (++/+++)

Rank 7: Choice 1 (++/+++), Choice 2 (++/+++), Choice 3 (++/+++)

Rank 8: Choice 1 (++/+++), Choice 2 (++/+++), Choice 3 (++/+++)

Rank 9: Choice 1 (Romance), Choice 2 (Romance), Choice 3 (Romance)

Rank 10: Dating

Because you are female and Jun is attracted to females, it’s easier to romance him and you have a bit more leeway. Remember, though, in order to romance him, you’ll need at least 6 ++/+++ to get the romance options in Rank 9, and on top of it, you’ll need to answer all (Romance) choices correctly.

The Virus

The virus is ultimately something that makes or break the storyline of this story. It’s this virus that causes the MC to go out trying to save everyone, it infects all of the main party members and ultimately brings them together, it’s infected the entire town and is killing everyone.

Even your confidants.

Several confidants will not be able to die from the virus, such as your party members, as they’ve already been infected once. But others, such as Yuuki, Haruka, and possibly Dr. Ueda and Natsuki are integral to the story, and are needed for cutscenes and stuff. However, characters like Masaru, Akemi, Tsubasa, Hiroki, Mizuki, Hiroko, and Sayuri can all join the regular runs through Padure Nesfarsita. And if they die… well, no more confidant ranking, huh?

You’ll be informed by Dr. Ueda about different people infected by the virus if you go to the hospital and ask him about it (it’ll be an option along choice screen you get to up his confidant rank). Alternatively, there could be a list somewhere that you can look at.

The difference between regular infected and your confidants is that, if you know them already, Dr. Ueda will call you to inform you that “Your friend is sick, it’s the virus, and their prospects don’t look good.” If you don’t know them yet, I’d say it’s Natsuki who would call you about them.

As with all infected, once they start showing heavy signs, you only have three weeks to cure them, or no more confidant.

Masks

Unlike Persona 5, the masks of Persona 6 will not be used to hide, they will be used to protect. A much more practical use for this particular setting. They will be the biggest difference between the real world and the endless forest, since you won’t be getting full uniform changes in this one. The masks used in the real world will stay stagnant, but I feel like in the other world, if you bought special masks, it would show up different on the character. (like you do with weapons).

Some might not even use the regular face masks, but instead the handkerchiefs (or whatever they are) and tied them around the bottom half of their faces. Or do the leather mask thing like that guy in Tokyo Ghoul (I’m trying to watch it, okay? There’s a lot of anime). That would have to be a thought for sometime other than 3AM, and likely deliberated with several people. Another way to signify them, though.

Anyway, here are the ideas I have for starter masks;

MC - Basic, like our main character. Though of course, like I said, there will be other choices you can purchase and have show up on the MC. Legit, I think it would be pretty cool if there was a minigame or something where you could actually CUSTOMIZE your own mask. That’d be pretty sweet.

Sayaka - Sayaka is a little bit (a lot) of a dork, and I feel like having a mustache would totally be something she had. (Was it only an America thing to be obsessed with mustaches for a little while? They seemed to be everywhere, but I’ve never been able to leave America)

Yudai - Yudai, the most cheerful and relief from the doom and gloom in the beginning, deserves this big smile that matches his own.

Miyako - Being like Miyako and suffering from depression, I know how hard it is to feel like you can talk to people… and how often it feels like they don’t want to hear it anyway. Thus, the zipper.

Masahiko - I don’t know ‘bout you, but this one looks smug as fuck. And therefore fitting of Masahiko.

Hoshiko - In all honestly, Hoshiko’s would likely have a much more wobbly line (suggesting fear, anxiety, or nervousness), but I couldn’t find one in this group.

Jun - Out of all the ones in the group I found, this one looked the most devilish. And don’t anime boys kinda get this smile when they’re being lecherous?

Shinju - Not gonna lie, this one is mostly because she’s the little sister and it’s cute.

Plot/Playthrough

May 7 - May 10: You’ll be free to do as you like.

May 11 - May 14: Exams.

May 15: Natsuki takes you to Miyako’s house, and you find Miyako in bad shape. Investigating Padure Nesfarsita will guide you to Miyako’s Shadow, but The Plague takes her away.

May 16: The team checks on Miyako again, only to find her in the middle of attempting suicide. She’s placed in the hospital under suicide watch.

May 17: Miyako has escaped from the hospital and the team goes looking for her. They find her in the forest, and chase her to the waterfall. She goes through her own door, almost dies again because of her Corrupted Depression, and awakens her Persona.

May 18 - June 8: You alloted time to complete Miyako’s Palace.

June 10: Miyako returns to school and thanks the rest of the team for saving her life.

June 11: Celebration party! And news of a new transfer student?

June 12: News spreads around town that a child has died from the virus.

June 13: 15: You’re free to do as you like.

June 16: Masahiko enters the fray, and Miyako isn’t happy about it.

We return to our story on June 17.

June 17 - 20 will be free days to do as you like, however, you will not be able to interact with Masahiko. You can ‘listen in’ on students talking just outside the second year classroom, and occasionally catch Masahiko complaining during these conversations.

June 21 will also be a free day, but Masahiko will be standing outside the classroom and you’ll be able to engage in dialogue with him. He’ll say that he can tell just by looking at the MC they don’t belong in this backwater town, they’re a city kid too, and really, the only one worth salt in this shitty school.

During lunch June 22, Natsuki will run into the classroom and beg help because Miyako and Masahiko are going at it again. When you follow her to the classroom, you’ll find that Miyako and Masahiko are physically fighting each other while shouting at the top of their lungs. Masahiko said something terrible and offensive about Tomomi, and Miyako got angry, and now they’re duking it out.

Sayaka, Yūdai, and MC will have to physically get in between the two of them, fighting to get through the circle that formed around them, to get them to stop fighting. Whispers from their classmates about how they’re about to get chewed out by the third years circle around them, and they are chewed out by Sayaka and Yūdai, but neither will bow and apologize, both too stubborn.

The situation is left unresolved.

That night, you go home and dream. A strange dream. It looks like the Velvet Room, and feels like it does when you’re in the velvet room. But it’s black, crumbling, with greenery overgrowing on everything. It’s got an all around creepy feel to it.

The Plague sits in the same place Igor tends to. He talks in so many circles and riddles it makes Igor seem coherent. The point he gets to is that he calls the you The Cure, and that he plans to keep watching you, even though he’d much rather prefer you didn’t mess with the results of his experiment. Otherwise, the experiment just might be you…

A bright light pulls you out of The Plague’s room, and suddenly you’re in the Velvet Room, both Igor and his attendant will be worried. Gilbert/Lucius will ask you about what The Plague said to you, but even if you choose to answer, no words will be uttered. It’ll be worrying, but not enough for anything to be done at the moment. Gilbert/Lucius will tell Igor that he’s going to talk to his brother and sisters about strengthening the defences of the Velvet Room (thus referencing previous Persona games) so that won’t happen again.

You’re sent back to the real world after a brief conversation, and I suppose you can put it out of your mind for now. When you wake in the morning, you’ll be uneasy about your visit from The Plague the night before and go explore Padure Nesfarsita.

And a good idea, too. Because when you go through the forest, you come across Masahiko’s Shadow, its core heavily corrupted, almost to the point of dying, in such a short time, it’s super weird.

The MC will be able to go and heal it a little bit, but the entire situation will go downhill when they’re attacked and forced to leave him behind. The Plague will whisk him away shortly thereafter, as the team runs away.

The next day, it’s a nice day out and the team meets and decides to try to get into Masahiko’s Palace, because he’s got to have one now that The Plague has taken his Shadow. But Masahiko is getting suspicious, and annoyed, because everyone keeps looking at him but whispering.

So he confronts the team, demands to be included, but Miyako snaps that it’s none of his business. He retorts with the facts it’s obviously about him, and therefore is his business. Miyako goes on to tell him that not everything is about him, you flipping Narcissus. And, you know, that pisses Masahiko off more than anything and he stomps away.

Only for there to be a cutscene of him hiding in a corner after school, coughing and getting sick and looking like he’s about to keel over. But then the team walks past him and right into the forest, and he follows them. Without their notice, of course. We then return to the main team once they reach the waterfall and deliberate about which door could possibly be Masahiko’s. There’s an argument against it being the pink door, as that’s far too girly, but then Miyako claims it’s perfect for a sissy like him, and the argument is immediately shut down.

But it is the pink door, and you all go through. And all that’s on the other side is desert. Nothing but sand and the sun in sight. But there’s gotta be something, so you continue forward. Right up until one of the party members falls into a sand pit and oh look, it’s actually some sort of cave and there’s a water source and shade.

So you all go down, and whelp, no idea what to do now, let’s follow where the water source is going, because those always lead to good things, right? So you follow the river, and come out next to a huge… cavern, almost. Up top, there’s a large hole, enough to fit the entire town in. Stepping out of the cave you followed, you can find that there’s a path that spirals around the outside until it reaches the bottom.

The bottom that has a figure chained to a throne with water from several different water sources filling the place up.

You know the drill. Masahiko finds you before you can start going far, and you’re confronted by his Corrupted Narcissism/Greed and he awakens his Persona. Wonderful, my dears. You’ve now got an official navigator, who knows what they’re doing better than Avis!

Anyway, you’ll have to leave after the encounter, because Masahiko does keel over and isn’t looking so hot, so they have to take him out of his Palace.

Everything gets explained to him while he’s recovering, and now that he has a Persona, he can see the cores. His is extremely dark and corrupted, but MC can’t do anything about it without directly interacting with his Shadow. Sayaka also mentions how weird it is that he was infected so fast, and corrupted that quickly, when he was new to town. Sayaka had been in town for six months before she started feeling the effects of the virus, and the MC still has a pure white core. It’s weird that Masahiko is the outlier.

He agrees to help them get to his Shadow (more like invites himself on this quest, much to Miyako’s despair), and this time, you’ve only got two weeks to do it, just to be extra safe. So, from June 24 to July 8 will be your period to save Masahiko.

The path to the bottom of the cavern, where the water rises and Masahiko’s Shadow lies, will be anything but linear. You will continuously go downwards, but will be prevented from going forward one way or another, meaning you’ll have to enter the caves and go through them to reach the next level. They’ll be riddled with Shadows, traps, and riddles you’ll have to solve to make it to the bottom.

Throughout the entire run through the Palace, Masahiko will be sick, and he’ll show symptoms of it much more clearly than Miyako or Yūdai did. Pale, the corners of his eyes red, coughing and choking up, weak and unable to fight. (This will be the main reason he is delegated to Navigator for the duration of his Palace. Even after being cured, he will stick to being the Navigator because it makes him feel useful, and it’s a job he can do and do well)

Eventually, you will find your way to the bottom of the cavern. It’s not just pure sand at the bottom, as it looked from above. It has a distinctive Arrabian feel to it, looking perhaps a bit like the throne room of a castle, if it were built underground.

But the water is slowly rising, and flooding everything. There is a throne on a tall dais, with Masahiko’s Shadow chained to it, looking dead already.

You’ll have to defeat the Corrupted Greed/Narcissism, but getting out will prove to be a challenge. Water starts filling up faster than before, and though your team floats with the rising water, the Shadow Masahiko does not. The real Masahiko starts choking on water, drowning with his Shadow, and the MC swims down and cures him, sending the Shadow away and saving Masahiko, from drowning that way at least.

You’re still not safe yet, and then someone has a brilliant idea that involves flooding the place even faster and going up that way while holding on to the drifting wood. The plan works, and the entire team is basically spat out of the cavern by a geyser and shot out of the door.

Masahiko collapses after you return to town, and is immediately taken to the hospital, where he shall stay until July 10.

July 10 will be his return, though unfortunately you won’t be able to talk to him that day either, as everyone in his class (save for Miyako) bombarded him as soon as he entered the classroom that morning and has not left him alone since. Miyako will find the third years and explain the situation with him, and you all just kind of accept that he’s not in the mood to do any talking after school, still feeling like shit and exhausted form his classmates’ hounding.

July 11 you’ll be able to talk to Masahiko again, and you’ll all gather either outside where you usually do or up on the roof during lunch. There’ll be an argument between Masahiko and Miyako, and from the result of it, Miyako will explain why Tomomi is so important to her and why she’s so pissed at Masahiko being so nonchalaunt about him. Their discussion will end with a bit of playful banter, and nowhere as much hostility, though they will continue to argue and act as rivals for the rest of the game. It’s how they work.

July 12, 13, and 14 will be scripted events relating to family stuff and tutoring from Yuuki. At night, you can invite friends over to do more studying, but July 15-18 will be exam days. Afterwards, you’ll be able to celebrate Masahiko’s release from the hospital and him joining the team.

July 19 officially starts your summer vacation, that first day being your celebration day, to be ended on August 14, and I will write about that… next time.

As a side note, I’m running out of things to put before the plot and shit, so if you guys got questions or things I’m totally blanking on, remind me and I’ll add those in in future installments.

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