#resurrection f

[galexibrain]

I think Goku & Vegeta fighting over who gets to fight Freezer is the funniest thing DBZ has ever done lmao

Absolutely hopeless idiots, please never change.

[quantumleper]

Dragon Ball Beatdown | Vegeta vs Frieza

[romantic-ageru-yo]

Thinking about Res F and how 18 offered to come to the battlefield with Krillin, but he turned her down because he wanted her and Marron to stay safe, and then it turns out the only safe place to be that day was the battlefield, and now suddenly his wife and child are dead, and he absolutely shouldn't blame himself for that, but he can't help it, he's Krillin

[silvadour]

[gekioko]

If Shisami can run around in a thong that hardly covers his ass let alone with his crotch, Peppah can wear a body suit showing off her hips. I love gender equality!

[sulfuricshark]

Happy Valentine’s Day :)

[greenslug]

Piccolo, executive babysitter.

[turboacek-blog]

Resurrection ‘F’ rewrite/tweaking

Written March 15, 2022 (clearing drafts lol)

Noticed that this is generally regarded as the worst of the Super era movies and the worst arc in Dragon Ball Super

So I wanted to see if a few tweaks would make it more enjoyable and didn’t know where to share it so just thought to post it here

It'll mostly be a mix of the movie version and the anime version as I don’t want to go too fanfictiony

Notes, changes, and mergers

Frieza force reviving Frieza with the dragon balls stays the same

This would have Frieza still train with Tagoma like in the anime so he can be stronger than Goku

The anime version of Goku and Vegeta being in that void to acquire God energy would happen during the months Frieza was training to parallel both sides getting stronger

By the time Frieza and his army head to earth Goku and Vegeta are still training with Whis

Then the regular sparring we see them do with Whis would be during the invasion like the movie

For the invasion Gohan, Piccolo, Krillin, Tien, Master Roshi, and Jaco are the initial fighters like before

In the anime version if this story I would add that Chiaotzu would be left behind similar to how Tien said and Gohan would mention that Goten and Trunks don’t know what’s going either as they’re not ready/mature

And I would add a small thing where Chiaotzu and Videl would monitor the boys and when the fighting starts instead of just flying away like in the anime they would be met with some resistance by the pair

So the Goten Trunks Chiaotzu Videl would be a subplot to make the arc longer

Android 18 just didn’t want to join lol plus had to watch her daughter

The battle against the army happens like the movie (animation and pacing etc) so without much of the Krillin afraid subplot but still elements of it as it added some depth to his character and they divide to better their odds

And a small thing of maybe Gohan being more in the lead to help build his role as the third strongest fighter of the Z fighters similar to the manga version of him later and giving him a Sanji role to Goku and Vegeta’s Luffy and Zoro

Army fight

As it goes on Roshi gets tired first like usual and a fun addition would be to have Yamcha come and assist saying sorry he's late he was further away than the others

Adding Yamcha as I don’t buy he’s that much below Krillin and Tien in power especially when Roshi was here plus it would give him a hero moment but he can still be played with for laughs as he wouldn’t last much better than Krillin and Tien

Krillin getting tired as well stays here with Gohan assisting like in the movie

But when they've beaten the fodder they can't afford to use Senzu beans for stamina as they don't have that many to give

Let’s say they have about 4 beans and there’s currently have 7 fighters and Bulma spectating

This would leave Sisami, Tagoma, and Frieza (with Sorbet) as the main fighters left

Lieutenants

They sense the other two energy and get the range that Sisami is 3rd strongest and Tagoma 2nd to Frieza’s 1st

Tien elects himself to take on Sisami

Piccolo does the same with Tagoma

Gohan was going to help fight but someone like Roshi suggests to save himself for Frieza and recovers stamina just in case Goku and Vegeta don’t make it in time

Meanwhile in the anime version Chiaotzu is using his psychic powers to slow down Goten and Trunks which allows Videl to fight them on a more even playing field to force them to not go join the fight and it works as Videl is a better martial artist than the boys individually, eventually Chiaotzu can’t hold them and they power through and beat Videl and get what they want and start to head to the fight

Piccolo is doing fine with Tagoma, Tagoma is stronger than Piccolo but nothing too concerning at first as Piccolo technique and physiology keeps him in the fight

But Tien was doing ok with Sisami at first but starts to get overwhelmed which leads to Krillin and Yamcha helping Tien making it 3 on 1

A combo attack with the three maybe even Roshi assisting in a turtle school Kamehameha let’s Tien land the knock out blow

(Maybe new technique, maybe TriBeam, doesn’t matter too much but he’s known to have something to show off with)

Piccolo starts to get overwhelmed as the humans defeat Sisami then Goten and Trunks come and after begging to Bulma and Gohan they get the ok to fight as long as they’re fused

In the anime Gotenks joins and with SSJ3 they tip the scales in their favor

Seeing Super Saiyan starts to irritate Frieza

They do a charging volley ball fist combo assisted by Tien and Piccolo (Tien passes, Piccolo sets, Gotenks spikes) to land a big hit on Tagoma

But as the kids get too overconfident by celebrating early Tagoma tries a surprise attack but Gohan punches him similar to how he defeated Sisami in the movie and does the mercy thing as he’s not going to kill them that gets Frieza upset like in the anime version

in the movie version Gohan would save Piccolo by going Super Saiyan getting a similar reaction from Frieza when he defeats Tagoma

Frieza Round 1

Frieza then gets out and ready to fight and Gohan gets ready as Goku and Vegeta aren’t here still

They’re still sparring and get closer to when Whis is aware as his staff blinks but gets distracted by Beerus like usual

Super Saiyan Gohan against First Form Frieza for a little and Piccolo and others comment that it would be a lot to reach super saiyan 2 for Gohan who hasn’t trained much

Then as Frieza is entertained he transformed into his final/4th form Gohan fights him and struggles immensely

As he gets more frustrated Gohan reaches Super Saiyan 2 through his rage and does a better job than before but still not winning as Frieza is still stronger with him

Because of later in Super I wouldn't have him go Ultimate here as it eventually becomes his God equivalent so he'll cap out at SSJ2 here

And just in time Bulma starts to get in touch with Whis and demands Goku and Vegeta and to get there via need instant transmission

Piccolo comments on how Gohan needs to go all out to have their power stand out

And as they all power up, Gohan on his last legs ready to go down fighting, Goku and Vegeta show up via instant transmission

Frieza Round 2

As Gohan passes out Goku says he’s proud and etc and then the main fight begins

And to shake things up for my version Vegeta fights Frieza revealing super saiyan blue

And the two fight evenly for awhile but Vegeta dominates him like original as time goes

(This truly doesn’t matter as I know marketing and such wise Goku needs to fight Frieza but I don’t really care as we’ve seen Goku fight a little with the sparring)

The same time thing happened with Frieza blowing up the planet

Maybe iIn this version since Vegeta doesn’t let his guard down like Goku, maybe he was so ‘tense’ and arrogant that as he was focusing on Frieza he ignored Sorbet (a weakling) who shoots someone like Bulma or Trunks or even someone like Yamcha which distracts him long enough for Frieza to blow the planet up

Whis rewinds time as even though it feels cheap and lowers the stakes and etc. I do think it adds some consequence as Frieza did win and Goku and Vegeta didn’t learn their lesson

Again can mostly stay the same as the movie

Frieza Round 3

Then Goku comes in and steals the win lol

This can be like Dragon Ball Z Kakarot where it was a beautiful beat down and gives Goku a more pretty win as well as giving the required Goku vs Frieza

Around 3:53

And the movie ends like canon

Summary

So essentially I included more characters to give characters time to shine

Jaco and Roshi shine against the army

Krillin Tien and Yamcha against Sisami

Piccolo (and Gotenks(Goten and Trunks) in the anime version) against Tagoma with Gohan getting a win (and the boys being comedic relief)

Videl and Chiaotzu do something lol and add a C plot temporarily with Goten and Trunks

And Gohan shines as he's the strongest fighter on Earth and showcases how strong Frieza is before Goku and Vegeta shows as it establishes power levels better

Like everyone is stronger than the army even Roshi and Jaco

Sisami is a little above whatever you would give the humans power level is (people say named Frieza, just stronger than the Ginyu force but a little less than Frieza, even saw that some say they're around Cell level by the time of Super as they have to keep being somewhat relative to Goku)

Piccolo and Gotenks are stronger than Sisami and their SSJ3 level Tagoma is slightly stronger than that and then Gohan as a Super Saiyan is stronger than/or on par with that

(Went more for the movie version of Gohan as that version was by far the strongest and would need to keep him above Gotenks)

But Gohan SSJ is below first form Frieza, SSJ2 is more on par maybe above, final form is above that and ultimate above/on par with that, and Golden Frieza above that

I think it adds the seesaw in power levels that sagas like Saiyan, Frieza, and Cell sagas do just in a much shorter time

As it was back and forth between the hero's being stronger and the opposition being stronger in this version

Vs everyone being weaker than Frieza and everyone is stronger than the army except for one with Gohan being able to challenge that lone exception depending on the version

Plus it kinda gives off the impression that Gohan might be able to win as he’s the one to keep breaking his limits to contend with Frieza and feel relief when Goku and Vegeta get there as he just couldn’t quite do it.

So yeah I think power wise it doesn’t affect universe 6 tournament too much as Gohan wouldn’t be there

Future Trunks arc is unaffected

And for tournament of power, Gohan can still have to regain the ultimate power or at least train it now, maybe they wouldn’t skip Yamcha so blatantly but could just write that he never got a chance for ask or for them to ask him

Krillin Tien and Roshi show how strong they are relative to the others before they go on a long break as are still not on the saiyans and Piccolos level

Power level scale

SSJB Goku, SSJB Vegeta, Golden Frieza

Ultimate Gohan, Frieza (4th Form)

SSJ2 Gohan, Frieza (1st Form), SSJ Gohan, SSJ3 Gotenks

Tagoma, Piccolo, Gotenks SSJ, Gotenks

Sisami, Tien, Krillin, Yamcha

Roshi, Jaco, Chiaotzu, Videl

Frieza Soldiers

Update July 23, 2024

Did do some quick typo fixes and had to replace the kakarot gameplay as the original link I had was dead

Would sta over time and hearing other say it

I think my small change rewrites would be that SSJB would just SS God and save blue for the Universe 6 tournament

But I get that would go against selling new toys and such but seeing SSG Vegeta would be worth it

Again heard many DBZ YouTubers say this but I did have similar thoughts years ago but don't want to be accused of stealing lol

[misscammiedawn]

I hate to compare myself to Frieza but I got to admit that it's too damn easy to relate to him in Resurrection F. I'll grind any skill in the hyperbolic time chamber until the point of which I can do it passably and then instantly rush to do it in a live setting. Mastery? Practice? What are they? Never heard of them.

Getting a skill is a binary thing and once you have it down you don't have to worry about improving or refining. It's one and done, baby. Get that shit and go.

By far my most toxic trait.

[themattress]

Unpopular Opinion Re:Dragon Ball

Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F is great; many of its detractors are the ones with the problem.

And I'm not trying to insult them by saying that; it's actually an understandable logical fallacy they've fallen prey to, but it's a fallacy all the same and I need to highlight it. Basically, many fans say Resurrection F "hasn't aged well" or is the weakest of the new Dragon Ball movies or is even outright bad, and their arguments all come down to the same thing: there's not much story or character development or meaningful changes to the status quo. It's "filler".

The fallacy? Dragon Ball Super, which came around after this movie, is responsible for this line of thinking. Back at the time of Battle of Gods, there was no expectation that any such movies were going to be pivotal chapters in an ongoing narrative. There was no guarantee that we would see Beerus and Whis again after the movie kind of sent them off in a pretty close-ended way, or that we'd hear anything more of this "Super Saiyan God" form. And while we did end up getting those elements in Resurrection F, that doesn't change the fact that beyond them no character grew or changed in Battle of Gods either. No real lessons were learned, no big insights gleamed other than Videl being pregnant with a quarter-Saiyan child (something that was already a foregone conclusion) and the lengths Vegeta is actually willing to throw his pride away for his loved ones' sake, and the most radically changed characters from how they've been before were the Pilaf Gang who were completely tangential to the story! Resurrection F is much the same: nobody learns anything, we get something of a new insight into Vegeta's character and discover that Beerus approved Planet Vegeta's destruction, and a (sort of) new character is introduced (Jaco), but otherwise it's a close-ended movie. The main difference is that its got even less of a narrative than Battle of Gods, it's an action movie with a thin excuse plot. And that's exactly what it was marketed as. Nobody was fooled in 2015 as to what the movie was going to be: just an entertaining action flick where Goku and Freeza will finally have that big rematch on Earth that got cut off (pun intended) by Future Trunks before. As a movie, it achieved precisely what it needed to.

But then Super came out, which reframed Battle of Gods as a genuine new beginning of a serialized narrative. The other Super anime arcs (Champa, Goku Black, Tournament of Power), two Super manga-exclusive arcs (Moro, Granolah), and two Super movies (Broly, Super Hero) now all connect to one another. And in this new context, Resurrection F's only important holdovers were Jaco and the newly introduced forms (Super Saiyan Blue and Golden Freeza), and one could credibly argue those could have been introduced elsewhere without the need for Resurrection F's story. So now it feels more like filler, but again, Toriyama and all the people who made it had no idea of knowing that at the time of its creation. You can't just say "they should've not bothered and just brought Freeza back for the first time in the Tournament of Power" because there was no plan for the Tournament of Power to even be a thing back then! Just as for all Toriyama knew Beerus and Whis would never return after Battle of Gods had it not been successful, he had no idea if this return of Freeza would be the only one he'd be able to have or not. Context is everything here.

Tl;dr: Resurrection F is supposed to just be a fun movie. So enjoy it as a fun movie.

[fandom-trash-xl]

Somehow Dragon Ball Super Broly was a better movie for Frieza than his own actual movie

You can fight me on this one (don't actually, I'm not here to start war)

[galexibrain]

Okay but Vegeta beating Freezer in Resurrection F and then Goku being the one to finish him after all is literally so fucking UNNECESSARY, why does Toei hate Vegeta so much.

[quantumleper]

Z-Fighters, Master Roshi & Jaco fight the Frieza Force | Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection 'F' (2015)

[purrfectcellz]

Watched resurrection F on youtube... I love that the copyright automation didn't work if the quality of the video is too low haha... maybe I'll draw him golden later, but it was 1 am and I was tired

[sweetescapeartist]

Is that... IS THAT A FREEZA RACE MEMBER IN THE BUU SAGA!? 🤯

Turns out that Freeza knowing about Majin Buu in Resurrection F wasn't as random as we thought. There's actually a connection between Freeza's people and Majin Buu in the original manga.

Dragon Ball chapter 445 shows what appears to be a deceased Freeza race member when the Supreme Kai is talking about the planets that were once devastated by Majin Buu thousands of years ago.

Then, in Resurrection F (the movie and the saga) Freeza has knowledge of Majin Buu.

Perhaps, the stories of Majin Buu's terror were passed down from generation to generation and this is how King Cold & then Freeza knew of Majin Buu. 🤔

So, it appears that Toriyama used this manga only scene of a Freeza Race member who was slain by Majin Buu as retroactive connective tissue in order to explain why Freeza knew of Majin Buu in the Resurrection F story.

Just something I noticed. I haven't heard anyone point this out yet, so I thought I should share this with y'all.

EXTRA THOUGHTS:

For some reason, in DBZ EP 219, the anime inserts a scene with planets blowing up instead of a scene of a deceased Freeza Race member.

This is the overlooked third Freeza race member shown in the main series. Freeza, King Cold, and then this unnamed ancient member of the Freeza race.

I dont take issue with Freeza and King Cold having knowledge of Majin Buu & Lord Beerus. The Galactic Patrol had knowledge of both, so it makes sense for the Cold/Freeza Empire to know as well. Aliens who had contact with Buu or Beerus would know of them too and spread legends about them. Furthermore, only certain groups of those aliens would know how truthful those legends in fact were.

I theorize that Freeza's race likely hail from a part of the universe far far away from Earth. Since the Tortoise is the Celestial Emblem of the North cosmic direction, and the North Galaxy of Dragon Ball is home of the Turtle School... I THEORIZE that Emperor Freeza's people might have hailed from South Galaxy. This theory of mine is due to the Celestial Emblem's Red Bird of the South cosmic direction is associated with Imperial power, knowledge, & is often depicted to be at odds with the Dragon (ect, ect). But, this is simply speculation on my part. Maybe we will find out one day.

[gekioko]

Peppah *manages to survive to Super* and picks the most menacing mfs to boss around.