#rival carmine

[phopollo]

I'll be so fr for a second--- when the hidden treasures of area zero trailers came out, the first time I saw Carmine and Kieran, u was so sure that they were going to be Dendra's niblings and you were going to be introduced to all the dlc stuff because her niblings came to visit and was going to be worried about them making friends and so would ask you the player character to hang around them a bit, and I was devastated when they weren't and that's not how it happened

They would have been so silly

[blazingstar400]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!! First Kiki and now Carmine?! I feel like my wallet’s in trouble—

[shadowstep]

Yay! Carmine also got the same number of alt arts as Kieran! I love both Kitakami siblings, so the Pokemon TCG is making it really hard for me to resist getting these when they come out in the English version.

Plus, they really highlighted the aloof, fierce, and hidden sweet expressions she has to the MCs during the DLC with these artworks.

[kourabiedes]

"Tell me I'm pretty again!"

[itsvae10]

Bro I got a story time for y’all. So I was making art for my friend who wanted Carmine. You see in the drawing Carmine was pretty tall and my friend Ash asked me how tall is Carmine. I said I didn’t know. Bro Ash Fr did a full on research to find out the height of Carmine. Ash said in her own words “Carmine is 5’11 and Kieran is 4’10.” In her calculation that Carmine is 5’11 while Kieran is 4’10. Kieran is so short-

[cubedmango]

they do this the entire way home

[esp3onsol]

[jadeazora]

Sometimes family is an ADHD battle queen who disappeared for a quick snack run and came back with two new Pokemon in the high Lv80s, a hikikomori who hacked the government and stole money from them, the guy that had to hear his parent died, then be up and abandoned AGAIN by their robotic replacement, the person who "dies" first in a horror movie and still has a mega ego afterwards, the autistic guy that accidentally got driven to mild insanity, and the kid who just happens to befriend every random minor god they encounter.

[ink-ami]

Wanted to do a piece with the BB elite 4 once Kieran (and by extension, Carmine) comes back after the epilogue. I think they were nice about it, even if Drayton still rubs salt into the wound. Also the occasion to draw them all because I fear I won't do it again...

[wildflowercryptid]

how carmine finds out florian's got a thing for kieran

[diamandarinas]

One more trainer request/template I did on twitter a few weeks ago

[phopollo]

Carmine and Kieran my beloveds

Theyre the siblings ever

[xspiderchloe]

Nemona meets the Kitakami siblings

[azuremist]

Mainseries Pokemon characters who can be argued to be bisexual-coded (due to their implied crush on the player)

1. Shauna (Pokemon X and Y)

Kalos takes place in France, and Paris is the city of love. So, in the words of Junichi Masuda, "I wanted to implement some elements of romance with Shauna when playing as a boy and express a deep friendship when playing as a girl."

However, due to the VERY few dialogue changes between female vs male protags (as well as actions Shauna takes that are intended to imply romantic interest being the same across all player types, such as her staying behind with the player in the early-game forest), this can be argued to be unintentional bisexual-coding.

2. Lillie (Pokemon Sun and Moon)

Lillie is implied to have a crush on the player. When the player character is female, on Exeggutor Island, she says, "I want to become a Trainer, and learn all the things you know, Selene..." When the player character is male, she says, "I think... I'd like to become a Trainer, too. And travel together with you, Elio..."

Obviously, the difference between these two dialogues makes it pretty clear that they want her dialogue with Elio to be interpreted as more romantically-inclined. However, much like Shauna, Lillie's actions and dialogue varying VERY little otherwise between female vs male protags can be read as unintentional bisexual-coding.

3. Kieran

Kieran is the first character here to receive absolutely zero dialogue changes across player gender. Additionally, I'd say he's the character that we get the strongest hints regarding romantic feelings towards the player with.

Kieran has multiple moments where he's implied to feel romantically towards the player. These include, but are not limited to:

His sister saying that he's "been all googly-eyed over you" since you met, and that he "wouldn't stop talking about you - even at home. I seriously couldn't get him to shut up." Kieran reacts with embarrassment when she says this to the MC.

Him saying, "You're...you're special," before pausing, then getting embarrassed and rushing to change the subject.

When the MC calls him a friend, he responds, "What?! R-really?! We're friends? F-friends... I feel all tingly and funny hearing that... Ehehe..."

After the MC changes into their festival outfit, Kieran says, "Whoa...", when seeing them for the first time.

The player can even seemingly flirt with Kieran; when Kieran describes letting Ogerpon move into his home, the player can teasingly ask when they, themself, can move in with Kieran.

These are all very common romantic tropes. I think Kieran is the closest thing that we have to a canonically bisexual mainline character at this moment.

4. Carmine

Carmine has a fewer number of specific moments compared to her brother, but she can still be easily read as having feelings for the player.

Her extreme reaction to Drayton asking the player on a date is the best example, with her bringing her hands up to her face, and saying, "A wha-?!" Once Drayton leaves, Carmine continues fuming. (This can also be chalked up to her general dislike towards Drayton and how he can be manipulative, but the fact that it's that request that sets her off specifically makes this also easily read as jealousy.)

And speaking of...

5. Drayton

While, like Kieran and Carmine, Drayton doesn't have any dialogue changes between if the player is male and female, it's not really clear how he actually feels about them.

He tells the player, male or female, that they can go on a cafeteria date to talk, which the game fully acknowledges as a romantic phrase via Carmine's extreme reaction. He also tells the player, "From one charming catch to another..."

This is very obviously him flirting with the player, but, due to his laid-back and just-a-liiittle-bit-sleazy nature, this more so comes across as him trying to tease the player character, rather than anything earnest.

If nothing else, he's at least confirmed to be comfortable with romantically teasing male classmates, which I would consider a win.

[tangerinemazks]

the friendgroup !! I'm probably gonna replay the game for the 100th time.

[salon-maiden-anabel]

THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!! FULLARTS DROPPED