This season of the life series I only watched ep 1 of Jimmy and pretended to stay that way(I am not that big of a fan of the life series, its not really my jam), but this fucking comment is making me rethink this. I need to see wtf this cluster family is.
as someone who has worked in courtrooms and actively is in law school i. i just have to talk about the cleo v doc case.
i finally got around to watching doc's entire POV after being too busy. i saw clips over and over again that were just calling my name. and oh boy did the full vid not dissapoint. my mouth was wide open the whole time in both shock and laughter. surprisingly, some of the proceedings of the court were accurate to typical US court proceedings!
here's a list of events and actions that stood out to me for their questionable realism:
- skizz's opening line was pretty accurate to how most plaintiff/prosecutions begin -"your honor, opposing council, members of the jury"
- most courts don't let you... submit evidence in opening statements but i love the hustle skizz!!
- honestly skizz's entire opening statement would have had a jury on his side
- but no jury? this would be a jury case
- honestly joe's baby defense i could see playing out in court
- joe really held up the batshit defense arguments stereotype and i love that for us 🧡
- arguing in opening to have the case dismissed... baby that time has passed. not even discovery can save you now
- i get the feeling neither joe nor doc knew the plaintiff was going to call witnesses which is not only major illegal but also so fucking funny
- this is the type of questioning a proffessor would show what leading a witness looks like
- literally during both of joes cross' i was crying it was so funny
- also ren's "i cannot recall" yeah!! that's good.
- should have brought up husband status
- skizz. please. it is not "disposition". beef did not give you a "disposition". it's "deposition". please. i'm crying.
- really good relevance objection! and skizz didn't say "relevency" so +3000 lawyer points!
- the judge firing missles at both councils is a feature i think the lower courts should implement
- DEFENSE DIDNT GET TO PRESENT A SINGLE WITNESS???
- like they had no case. the witnesses are your case. they didn't begin their case to even rest it. help?
- no experts testified but i think if D did get a witness they could've had an expert testify to either doc's baby or insane status and that would have really helped.
- joe's mens rhea argument in closing was SO GOOD. like that really was the glove moment of this trial.
anyways i'll be thinking about this for 1000 years.
Things that happened in Martyn & Cleo Double Life canon:
Cleo hoping to find her soulmate and start a life with them
Cleo dumping Martyn without giving him a chance to explain his side of the story, but hearing him out when he comes to her later
Martyn watching Cleo through his spyglass and telling the audience she seems safe and happy even though he thinks it's weird she's outside at night
Martyn, after he's had time to consider how he wants to play this, spinning a story about trying to be a provider for her and Cleo explaining that she wanted him, not things
Cleo not being remotely impressed by the "I was providing" sob story, lol
Martyn calling Cleo selfish for choosing to be with Scott because she's supposed to be HIS soulmate and he wants a partner
Cleo willing to forgive Martyn if he meets them halfway
Martyn refusing to meet them halfway because he doesn't think he did anything wrong
Martyn screaming about how Cleo's building bridges with Scott but "When will she think about mending our bridges???"
Martyn explaining to Cleo that he doesn't understand why his Session 1 actions bothered them
Martyn centering his character arc and roleplay on trying to win Cleo back without actually apologizing
Cleo giving Martyn a flower and stating that if he loses it, she'll be real cross with him
Cleo chasing Martyn out of her yard because he tried to put an HOA sign on her base and she wanted to make it clear that she wasn't associated with them and their hate for his base (even though she does think his heart base is strange)
Martyn attacking Cleo after she said attacking is a form of affection to her
Cleo setting boundaries with Martyn and explaining what he can do to get her back
Cleo sighing when Scar set her up on a date with Martyn, but taking the chance to talk to him instead of walking out
Cleo genuinely wanting Martyn in her alliance
Martyn and Cleo giggling constantly when they chat
Scar asking if Martyn wanted him to play a romantic music disc for him and Cleo (and Martyn getting excited and saying yes)
Martyn offering to take Cleo's armor and weapons to the deep dark so he can enchant them and bring them back while she stays safe
Cleo gifting Martyn diamonds, expecting nothing in return but not wanting him to die from lack of a good sword
Martyn and Cleo forming a secret alliance that allows Cleo to live with Scott while being on good terms with Martyn
Martyn expressing frustration that Cleo wants to keep this alliance secret because he wants them to be public allies; Cleo softly shushes him when people approach and might overhear
Martyn telling Cleo that she's putting out a lot of mixed signals because she keeps reeling him in and then pushing him away, claiming he is very confused about where he stands with her
Martyn teasing Cleo by punching her off a cliff and accidentally killing her and feeling so bad about it that he apologizes profusely despite roleplaying as someone who refused to apologize for Session 1
Martyn and Cleo immediately threatening Bdubs together when he said hi to them while they were hanging out, sdkfj
Martyn genuinely apologizing to Pearl for dumping her after Session 1
Martyn hiding under Cleo's bed while she defends him from an enderman attack
Cleo offering to let Martyn move into her house after Etho and Joel grief his base; Martyn saying he might take her up on that
Cleo and Martyn agreeing to move out and base together at Box
Cleo trusting Martyn with the location and resources of her red life base
Martyn rushing to Cleo's aid in the deep dark and trying to turn everyone against him instead
Cleo responding to Martyn's panicked shouts for her to eat by opening her inventory to get food (and drowning because she forgot she was in water)
Cleo hanging back and letting Martyn attack Scott while she does nothing to stop him from doing so, implying as much as she likes Scott, she won't kill Martyn (and herself) for him (and/or she trusted Scott to handle himself even though he ran away while Martyn was shooting at him)
Things that did not happen:
Cleo unwilling to forgive Martyn or consider being his friend and partner
i know this trend is. technically dead however i couldnt UNHEAR it while watching cleos ep. so. click under readmore for transcript:
[Cleo: Mhm!
Jimmy: When I can Cleo. When I can--
Cleo, overlapping: When you can? When I can. When I can, what do you think I’m gonna do to your little trio of loser boys? Hm? Hm?
Jimmy: We’re not loser boys. We’re the bad boys. Get it right.
Cleo: Oh, okay!
Jimmy: No-- Stop--what are you--!? (fades out)]
okay so I always wanted to see xisuma in mcc, just for the funnies and the dynamic that would come out of it and after seeing that blood of the clock tower game It is no longer a want but a *need*
Cub, Ren and false the whole twitch rivals crew participated at some point, etho, jevin pearl gem and grian have played (also after watching twitch rivals vods plus hearing Ren describe them in the video make me nostalgic (?) for more)
He was so clearly out of his depth in a social deduction game it was iconic, now tone that down a bit because i think that level of anxiousness to watch live and for a 2 1/2 to 3 hour period would make anyone feel sick and i think it would be a new but interesting experience especially if teamed with some other hermits and someone like illumina or fruit
(i also need Joe hills in mcc as the wider mcyt community needs to know the Joe hills difference)
Honestly I've been wanting this for a while just more hermits in general plus others honorable mentions that don't get their own ramble include: docm77 and woolfie
even if it was a one time thing, even if the event itself wasn't the best as long as the creators had fun I'd take it as a win!
anyway i'm planning on making my boyfriend join me for my obx rewatch (it'll be his first time) and if this boy has bad takes (which, i love him, but he usually does) it might be the final straw that gets me fully back into the fandom. just to spite him
current mood is. should i watch zombiecleo’s life series videos so i can figure out her vibe or should i just go for it. i’ve written them before but idk how good i did,
I offer WIP bits from the same project. Img 1 (An Image that encapsulates the dread i felt on needing to do the text in photoshop), Img 2 (the beloved cottage core girly of Hermitcraft), Img3 (Mossman and KingDog), and Img 4 (Joe Hills)