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smokingasters · 2 months
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Psycho-Pass Providence Shitposting
Heavily inspired by another fandom shitposting. Enjoy. Can be used as a tumblr banner. RB!
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whozui · 4 days
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I'm rewatching Psycho-Pass and I'm curious to see how other view Akane & Kougamis relationship.
I know a good majority of people see the two as romantic but I always felt that Akane saw Kougami as a friend, and viewed him as something shiny? I can't think of the word. Kougami is someone Akane had never come across before. His behavior, ideals, how he views the Sibly System and his place in it. His opinions on justice etc. To me it felt like Kougami was something new to Akane, - at first - then they became friends and colleagues. Partners.
For Kougami, I feel like he sees Akane as a like, a beacon or something, for what the Sibly System should be. He values her insights and her ideals, and I think sees something in her he either had at one point, or wishes he had. However he recognizes that his beliefs differ from hers and understands he can't work in a system like Sibly.
I think they both represent a sort of ideal or pillar? to each other that they see something in. Something with aspects they'd like to emulate or carry with them but they can't due to their perspectives on justice and what not. There's respect, love, and trust between them and what I also think is an understanding of which side of the line they stand of.. an acceptance, kind of?
That and Akane just screams lesbian to me, but I'm also queer so..
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blackshadow2084 · 9 months
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Mild Spoilers of Psycho-Pass Providence?
So I just came back from watching Psycho-Pass Providence.
And god know how excited I have been to see this and I think it was worth it. But where I live people don’t really know Psycho-Pass and most of them who have watched it have forgotten about it after season 1 or 2 (very sad coz I think it’s worth it) so the theatre had like 10-12 people including me and my two friends, who binged the whole season 1 and 2 for me in a week.
It was an emotional roller coaster with us questioning our morals with every scene and it had be on the edge of my seat throughout. Like Kougami’s return and everyone’s reaction to it, the call, the letter and the last scene !!! Omg the last scene had me a little teary coz I could feel how drained Akane was and that moment of being fed up of very thing and wanting to give everything up but you can’t coz you are in too deep OMG. Also my favourite character (and my husband, yes it was love at first scene in season 1) Ginoza did so good, like his anger towards Kougami and then him being so Tsun-Tsun (OMG so cute so cute him being tsundere is so freaking cute omg) while trying ask Kougami if his leg was okay(and omg when his hair came down HIS HAIR CAME DOWN I REPEAT THEY WERE OPEN AND WHAT A BEAUTY HE IS OMG, i am sorry i just love him too much).( and since the theatre was empty and I thought I would probably never see these people every again, I screamed out my love for him and claimed him mine in the theatre it was so embarrassing but it was like I lived my otaku dream so I am very happy).
I see that Shimotsuki has character development which fills the gap between the SS movies and season 3. It’s nice to see but honestly I still really don’t like her but thats me( anyone being rude to ginoza has been considered enemy by me)
I wished there would be one scene for us to see Dime and Ginoza together.
So anyone willing to fan girl Ginoza text me I am always available to simp my husband and also check out the Ginoza fan fiction I am writing I promise it ain’t half bad( it’s pinned in my profile)
:)))))))))))))))
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chaos-of-the-abyss · 3 months
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i just learned that urobuchi gen, the writer of psycho pass season 1, is also the main writer for lostbelt 3 fgo. oh my fucking god. sibyl system compared to the eternal synchronized intellect nation. eliminating conflict through the suppression of individual expression and the culling of anyone who dares to venture outside the established norm, containment disguised thinly under a veneer of tranquil stability. sibyl the hivemind vs sentient supercomputer qin shi huang, both of them patiently, steadily, perpetually, monitoring the citizens under their watch
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akaneis · 1 year
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Can I just say how much I LOVE the upgrades that the sibyl system gets every season. We went from yellow pee water, to blue Gatorade, to now some greenish sea water. We love to see it! 😍
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undidiridium · 5 months
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Hello! So back in 2020 I made a Psycho Pass discord that I abandoned and want to bring it back!
Purely for just fans who want to talk and have fun, no pressure! But I'd love to have more psycho pass peeps to talk too.
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puzzleshipper4life · 2 years
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Dominator Interface Changes
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Psycho-Pass (2012)
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Psycho-Pass 3 (2019)
I like that they made certain details more visible and less transparent. I however, am not a fan of the rainbow effect when the Crime Coefficient appears. I also don't like that we don't get to see the data of the target anymore.
Also, the angle of the first shot is much better considering the distance of the Dominator from Kogami. It feels more real.
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whatsyourcolor · 2 years
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Sinners, do you think Dime is a real dog or a cyborg dog? What’s your opinion?
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nobuchik · 1 year
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psycho pass has had some great antagonists but I think none has ever come even CLOSE to Makishima. He was smart, charismatic and witty in ways no one else is, maaaybe Azusawa, but even then, Makishima was outsmarted (to some degree), Azusawa was bound to fail either way.
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saiko-shippai · 1 year
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I see Sibyl has new makeover, you looking bright today girl
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meli-r · 2 years
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Colorful World, Ch. 18
Locations: Wattpad | AO3
“For so long, no one has ever doubted Sibyl’s verdict and both enforcers and inspectors have pulled the trigger of dominators effectively, blindly and without question. Those who started out suspicious of its functioning… have eventually become latent criminals. Under normal circumstances, you would not be informed, as you have only been in the Collective for three years, but due to your growing progress and devotion to our common good, I will make an exception,” a male voice echoed. “If the matter of the inspector goes any further, there will be a committee I would like you to be on as a listener.”
“I would be honored,” Kasei Joushuu replied calmly, her half-closed eyes still fixed on the door at the end of her empty office. “What is the nature of such a committee?”
“To contemplate the possibility of integrating a new member into the Sibyl System... or destroy it.”
Kasei frowned as the universe opened up behind her slender but imposing figure where there was a wall, slowly darkening the office and her feminine features, giving the atmosphere a sense of infinity. Instead of dwarfing Kasei's figure, it seemed to elevate it.
“Isn’t it a bit bold and unprofessional of you to assume that she meets the criteria or may pose a danger to us, without having gone through a process of doubt, thoroughly studying her mindset and behavioral patterns beforehand?” she raised an eyebrow.
“You seem agitated, my friend. I wonder if your thoughts are clear at this point. Perhaps your feelings clouded your judgment,” continued the other. “Did you know that cancer is comparable to a bacterial level of complexity, but still autonomous, that is, it doesn't depend on other cells for survival; it doesn't follow orders like other cells in the body, and it can grow where, when and how it wants to?”
Kasei twirled her black pen around her fingers, until she stopped and smirked, tilting her head, “I thought doctors did everything they could to preserve all life, yet you wouldn’t hesitate to kill a living organism.”
“We are the chosen ones and the ones who choose. We don’t hesitate to extinguish any life form that endangers our existence. That's why standard incorporation procedures are long and exhaustive, meticulously studied by several synchronized minds. While we can isolate one from the others or destroy it, structural damage, whether caused by dementia, schizophrenia or major depressive disorder, among other diseases and disorders, is a risk we are not willing to take. We need to test her out on the field before we reach a conclusion or make a decision. One of the qualifications needed to become a member of the Sibyl System is that you must be able to oversee human actions from an objective viewpoint, without empathy or sympathy clouding your judgment. Inspector Takahashi is unique in that she has exceptionally high levels of both cognitive and emotional empathy, easily being able to sense and interpret the feelings and motives of other people. However, this has a downside—whilst it makes her a brilliant profiler and invaluable asset to the Public Safety Bureau, it also feeds her darkness, making her a danger for the centralized structure of our system.”
“And yet it never clouded her judgment,” Kasei swiveled her chair around, sitting parallel to the desk and looking up at the stars. “She can assume our point of view and still act according to her own standards.”
“For now. She was hospitalized once after the death of her parents, although the recovery process was slow, with mandatory therapy sessions, and did not require human intervention. Her psycho pass stabilized and she did not become a latent criminal.”
“Yashiro doesn’t need therapy,” Kasei replied with ease.
“No. She just needs a way out of darkness and someone reading her crime coefficient when she dives too deep.”
“Is that why you ordered her to always be accompanied by an enforcer?” Kasei looked at her pen, spinning it slowly. “You wanted to study her psycho pass from the beginning.”
“How do you think she felt undergoing a long and cumbersome therapy process?”
Kasei frowned and looked straight ahead with a solemn expression. There was a smaller, younger version of Yashiro sitting in a chair with a man in front of her, asking questions she would never answer, with a serious, blank, even cold expression on her face. Kasei raised her eyebrows for a second, then her chin. Bright vertical and horizontal neon signs filled the skyscrapers of Tokyo. A light blue logo resembling a brain flickered on one of the larger billboards, fading into futuristic animation to reveal a name: SIBYL SYSTEM.
Yashiro was standing on the edge of a building, her head turned to one side and her hands on either side of her body. She was taller, with longer brown hair than before, dressed in black with an open blazer, dress shirt and pants, and derby shoes. There was no sadness, envy or resentment on her face, but a deep, contagious calm. Her gaze was up high, observing the colorful world with curiosity and admiration.
“Misunderstood. Alone. Therapy is useless if it doesn't help you better know yourself. No one ever wanted to acknowledge her hatred. Out of fear. Yashiro saw therapy as self-denial, self-immolation, self-abnegation, self-destruction. Rather than helping her to understand her emotions and feelings, it gave her an acute sense of alienation at being treated as a psychiatric patient or as an individual who had broken the rules, and who had to conform to what society defined as a citizen, abiding by the supreme ideal of the common good. In the end she ended up believing that she might be mentally insane.”
Kasei looked down with narrowed, piercing eyes, detached from her body and the office, but only for a couple of seconds until her features relaxed, and her eyes widened normally again. Slowly, her lips curved further up into a greedy smile as she continued, “Community morality can be as powerful and ruthless as the tyranny of the state. We might rarely glimpse the police or the government authority, but people themselves will be authoritarian figures, sometimes even far more frightening than Big Brother.”
There was a long, deep laugh, and Kasei’s face turned bitter at its sound.
“Insane people would never admit that they are. Paranoid schizophrenics do not think they are crazy at all. They tend to think everyone else is. Because of the symptom of anosognosia—the lack of insight and unawareness of the presence of a disorder—they may not recognize that their behavior, hallucinations, or delusions are unusual or unfounded. Inspector Takahashi has something more dangerous than that—a clear conscience living by her own standards. She must have been called selfish for the courage of acting on her own judgment and bearing sole responsibility for her own life, arrogant for her independent mind, cruel for her integrity…”
“Yashiro is a rare example of a balanced human being in an unbalanced world. Of having a sense of humor in a humorless world. She has been given the job of overseeing the ethics of society. Her ethics are very high, but she does not share the ethics of this society, and certainly not ours, with which she deeply disagrees. She is supposed to be dedicated to the morality of the community, yet is proven to be capable of moral failing and is driven to break the rules of society.”
“Did you honestly believe we want laws to be enforced?” the one they knew was among the top fifty minds cut them off. “We want them violated. Innocent men cannot be ruled. The power a government has is to crack down on criminals. But when there are not enough criminals, you create them. You declare so many things a crime that it’s impossible for men to live without breaking the law. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? You gain nothing by that. But you pass the kind of laws that cannot be obeyed, implemented or objectively interpreted, and you create a nation of lawbreakers to exploit the guilt. One way to rule men is through guilt, through what they themselves have accepted as guilt.
“If a man finds money on the street, you can impose on him the punishment prescribed for a bank robber, and he will accept it. He will feel he deserves no better and won’t even think of a second option. If there is not enough guilt, you create it. If a man believes Hobbes' unwarranted hypothesis that no one would honor a commitment in the absence of coercive power and imminent penalties, thus favoring state authority and absolute monarchy, because all men are evil by nature and unfit for freedom, that their basic interests are to steal and murder one another, and that therefore men must be governed by coercion, which must be the exclusive privilege of government, for the purpose of compelling men to work, teaching them to be moral and keeping them within the bounds of order and justice, or that there is no such thing as intellect, for man’s brain is a social product, a sum of influences, since no one invents anything and ideas belong to society, we can do as we please with him. He will not defend himself. He will not feel that he is worth it. He will not fight.
“It's a matter of understanding and ruling the soul of a single man in order to understand and rule the rest. A soul cannot be ruled. It must be broken. Use man against himself. Destroy his ideals and his integrity. Once you learn to pull the lever, the mechanism will work for you and the man will be yours. It has been done for centuries, but no one has ever succeeded in sustaining it in the long run. Even the worst of men yearn for an ideal of their own. Use it against himself. For example, preach selflessness. Tell man he must live for others. That altruism is the ultimate ideal. No one will ever attain it. His instincts fight against it. Can you see what you accomplish by this? Man realizes he is incapable of following his ideal, which gives him a sense of guilt and sin. He eventually gives up all ideals, aspirations, notions of personal value and moral code. Since he cannot practice what he preaches, preserving his corrupted integrity, his soul gives up his self-respect. Then he will gladly obey because he can no longer trust himself.
“Another way is killing men’s capacity to recognize greatness or to achieve it of their own free will. Great men cannot be ruled. But don’t deny greatness or denigrate great men. We need people willing to reach for it and to seek it. As our economists would say—money does not fall from trees, wealth must be produced and what is important is the mind, the creative capacity of men. If these ideas had been implemented in the economy, this country would have gone back to the times of steam locomotives and boilers, and we cannot afford that. After all, the Sibyl System is expensive and difficult to maintain.
“Here is another one. Probably the most important one. Don’t let men be truly happy. Not on their own volition. Happiness makes them free and free people cannot be ruled. We don’t want any free men. Therefore, take from them whatever is dear or important to them. Never let them have what they want. Make them feel that the mere fact of a personal desire is evil. Altruism helps in this. Unhappy men will always come to you for support and escape.
“Go back in history, look at the systems of ethics. Didn’t they preach sacrifice, self-denial? Now look at today’s moral society. Everything enjoyable, from cigarettes and alcohol to sex and ambition, is considered a shameful admission that will eventually cloud your crime coefficient, making you a depraved, sinful, pathetic man. That’s how far we’ve come. We have tied happiness to guilt. Systems that preached sacrifice grew into world powers and ruled millions of men in the past. As will ours. We are kings and prophets all at once. Of course, you must dress it up. You must tell people that they will achieve a superior happiness by giving up everything that makes them happy. Fear is what moves men, what drives them to action. Learn to use it against themselves. Tell them that they must give up their freedom, their sense of morality, for safety.
“Beware of a weapon men have—reason. Take it away. Don’t say it’s evil, but limited. That there is something above it, like instinct, feeling, revelation, Sibyl’s oracle. There is no way to rule a thinking man and we want none of them. However, the brain of an independent man will feel the social pressure and will eventually explode, like deep-sea fish brought to the surface. So much for future Takahashis and Tsunemoris.
“Anyone might say that I am a vicious man, but I am the most selfless yet self-aware person you have probably ever met. I am even less independent than you both. While you always used people for what you could get out of them for yourself, I never wanted something for myself. I always used people for what I can do to them. I never really had a private purpose. I just wanted power. A world of unlimited submission where no one owns their own thoughts and everyone thinks the same as everyone else. A stagnant generation where each one will be exactly like the previous one, not in terms of production and economic development, but culturally, socially and morally.
“Well, that was the system, the game played in the past. We have automated it, but the principle is the same. You two were amateurs while we were going for power and we meant it, and once the inspector understands it, she will be much easier to deal with. Both crime and the Sibyl System are necessary to keep society functioning, in the same way that censorship requires people willing to sell banned books, and peace needs the constant fear of war. Our system is perfect in its imperfection and its adaptation to unforeseen situations. The inspector can help us evolve by recognizing those flaws.”
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smokingasters · 5 months
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I watched some parts of First Inspector after Providence and a lot of stuff made sense. One was Sibyl's dialogue with Shindo and Asusawa about the criminally asymptomatic.
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Sibyl is comprised of asymptomatic, who can either be saints or psychos. This was what Arata's dad Atsushi was hoping in Providence. Instead of becoming a part of Sibyl, Arata would choose to live on and work for the Ministry. Providence explains that Atsushi and Homura's father had placed bets and that Atsushi was an old player of Round Robin who essentially didn't just bet on Arata, but perhaps also Kei, Maiko, and Akira as well? It would make sense why Akira was displeased when he met Atsushi. Also clears up why Atsushi had to die, since Akira, the person he bet on died, Atsushi could not rejoin Round Robin to enlist Arata and it was Homura Shizuka who bet on Arata instead, won and dissolved Bifrost through the Sibyl System. It also makes sense why Kogami said this to Kei before beating him up (more under the cut)
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It's because Akane said it to him. That they were a team and that he shouldn't try to do things alone. It also makes sense why Kogami worried that Akane should have not borne the 'crime' of killing Chief Kasei. (who makes an appearance in FI) in the FES Live Reading Drama. The strangest thing though, is Akane's clothes in FI.
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Remind you of something?
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Yeah. For some reason, this detail made me uneasy. Also in Providence I noted that Kasei did not flinch at all when Akane aimed the gun to kill her. She did not seem surprised, as though Chief had foreknowledge that Akane would do this.
In the Genesis (3-4) novels, the first Kasei Joshuu was made from two brains. Two criminally asymptomatic individuals, an Inspector who wanted to protect people and believed that humans would find a way to escape the bloodthirsty nature of Sibyl, and the second brain was of an ex-member of a terrorist group, who was the only successful case of being an artificially introduced criminal asymptomatic (not born asymptomatic but created through intensive experiments), who died respecting the Inspector's beliefs that some people found peace and happiness under the Sibyl System and did not destroy it. The two individual brains were fused into a single unit but they lost their sense of identity to form the Chief of the PSB.
This is the main reason Akane is favoured by Kasei Joshuu, because she reflects the combined ideals of these brains. Akane is allowed to return to the PSB as a statutory Enforcer and I think she will be assisting Homura, the new chief. S4 may have them working together, while Kogami continues working for the SAD in Dejima. Shizuka Homura is mysterious as heck, he's also kind of creepy, and his goals are unclear, so forgive me if I cannot trust him, yet. He risked his life to play Round Robin and its thanks to him that Akane is back, but is relationship with Sibyl makes me uneasy.
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Homura's words eerily echo Akane's employment, as a statutory Enforcer. So she's 'free' but not really. But who the heck is completely free under Sibyl? I suppose, Akane's position is better because she's favoured by Sibyl and the System needs her to provide more upgrades. Akane is still persistent that the Law should exist, because she believes that its the Law that shall also protect Sibyl.
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Does this mean S4 shall be the finale? Or do we have much more to go? Again, I only watched a few clips of FI, so my theory might be completely wrong, I shall have to rewatch S3 and FI entirely to make sense of how it connects to Providence. Your additions are welcome ❤️ and thank you for reading.
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animeposer · 2 years
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gk-sg · 2 years
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jjk x psycho-pass 
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dopepoisonivyoncrack · 11 months
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Bitch had the audacity to kill Kagari, and then go with the "he run away" to cover the crime and make Ginoza take responsibility. To say I am mad its an understatement.
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puzzleshipper4life · 2 years
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Sibyl System: Kogami and Makishima
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A little analysis I did with @akutagxwa-ryunosuke about Makishima's and Kagami's view on the Sybil System. I took over Kagami's part (a surprise to no one) and she did Makishima's.
Let's briefly summarize how the government in Psycho Pass is structured:
Japan has completely sealed itself off from the outside world.
There is no judiciary or child protection laws. The young people go through a test and then receive recommendations on what they should later do professionally. Individuality and free decisions do not exist. Artificial intelligence manages their life so that they hardly have to do anything by themselves.
The Sybill system decides in advance who gets to live or die without even committing a crime in the first place. A coefficient is used to assess a person's psyche and decide whether they still belong to society or not. Based on a value, the Hue of their Psycho-Pass, which, as you learn in the series, can also go down again.
Stress is enough to judge someone as a latent criminal.
People have lived in this machine-controlled world for so long that they have forgotten what violence is. This becomes clear from the scene where a woman is beaten to death in cold blood in the middle of the street. People are just watching and don't understand what is actually happening and the robots that are there to ensure safety prompt the dying woman to go to therapy as her stress level has increased.
A system that relies on only one value to judge whether someone is dangerous or not is flawed. Because once there are abnormalities (like Shogo Makishima), the system is useless.
The mere fact that there are people that have been classified as a criminal by the system and are used to do good (enforcers) is contradictory already. This only shows that a high value says nothing about the person.
Makishima Shogo:
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"I just long for a world in which everyday things are done in an everyday way. That's all I really want."
In other words, he believes that the system must be abolished. He believes that it is turning its citizens into non-thinking cog instead of independent thinking human beings. And his goal is to bring down this very system even by the means of civil war. Makishima personally states that he wants to see "the splendor of people's souls" and outwardly disdains humanity's current way of living, considering humans worthless due to their dependence on the Sibyl System. And he can only see these souls when people do something they do of their own free will, something the system doesn't allow them to do.
Makishima begins to tell people that the reason he is criminally asymptomatic is because the Sibyl System believes that all his actions are “good” including him killing innocent people. And because he's convinced that he's only doing the right thing, the system believes this as well. It's an interdependence.
His plan was the following:
- Find out what the system is and make people understand that the system is in fact not as safe as told because for example the system cannot punish people like him
- Start an uprising as a diversion so that they can get to the core undisturbed
- Destroy the system in the tower so that people are free. Or if that isn't possible, publish what the system actually is so that society itself will rebel against it and abolish it, because such a system can only be destroyed by the majority. You have to want it destroyed
Why does he think so?
Probably because he is different from all the others. From the very beginning he never really belonged to society as he can control his psycho pass. What at first seems like a blessing is actually the opposite. In such a society, controlled by this system, a person like him has problems with his identity. He cannot relate with anything or anyone. He, as one who possesses the ultimate freedom and individuality, is trapped in a society that doesn't have it. He is alone and that's how he understood that this applies not only to him but to everyone else. Everyone lives only for themselves. (Sadly there is almost zero info about his childhood)
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"You say some funny things. Solitude? Does that only apply to me? Who isn't alone in this society? The time when our connection to others was a basis of ourselves is long gone. In this world where everyone is watched over by the system and live within the system's standards, a community isn't necessary. Everyone just lives in their own cell, and the system tames them by giving them each their personal serenity." -Makishima Shogo, Episode 22
Kogami Shinya:
When he was an Inspector he used to believe that the system took into consideration that not everyone can fit into society. You must strive to achieve happiness for most people, not all.
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"A perfect society is achieved by giving up a perfect society" -Shinya Kogami, Episode 1 (Extended Edition)
That is the basis of the Sybil System for him. However, Sasayama's death shouldn't have ever happened in a society governed by the Sybil System and all it stood for. And the culprit, not only wasn't executed, but neither was he caught.
Kagami's faith in the Sybil System was shook by that fact alone and the sight of Sasayama's disfigured body probably led to his Crime Coefficient raise. Then became an Enforcer, not only because of his detective skills, but in order to protect other Inspectors such as himself from having their Psycho-Pass worsen. That's why he oftentimes wonders alone. He wants to be the only one who bears the sin of potentionally killing people for a system that could very well be unjust.
"We'll hunt the pray and you'll observe. That's all there is to it... the one who is responsible for our actions is you, the Inspector" -Episode 1
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When he notices all the weird behavior of the higher ups on the Makishima case, and the fact that he was personally removed from it, he can say for sure that the system is corrupt. He even saw a Dominator changing into Elimination Mode when touched by the Chief. He no longer wants any part of that. The only way to protect this society for him is to take matters into his own hands and eliminate the threat by himself. He was done serving a completely corrupt system.
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He saw the smaller picture. Try and help others like him and his partner from facing the same fate. It is only when Makishima appears that everything changes. Not only because of their connection, if you may, but also because he has a connection to the Sasayama case and still can't be judged by thr system. That, along with the fact that the system wanted him alive for some reason, which was pretty obvious, led to him abolishing his own beliefs and killing him no matter the means
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