#simply cannot explain it beyond vibes but uh yes. they were.

[erin-gilberts]

This one family I used to babysit for confused the absolute hell out of me as a teen, but honestly, putting together in my late 20s that they were most likely Messianics made SO MUCH about them suddenly make SO MUCH sense.

[thecarnivorousmuffinmeta]

For each member of the Cullens, what do you think it would take for them to realize the extent of how unhinged Edward is and what do you think they would do about it, if anything?

Well, we’re going dark places today, aren’t we?

Alice

Alice is already fully aware of what Edward is, she simply doesn’t care.

There are visions that Alice misses, Edward thinks Alice misses the vast majority of Biology due to being hyper focused on Jasper (and likely missed the school massacre that Edward was seriously planning) but there is a lot she doesn’t miss.

Every time Edward thinks about how great it’d be to smash Mike Newton’s head like a watermelon, every time he considers devouring Bella, every time he enters her room unannounced to stare at her while she sleeps unawares, the time Edward considers genocide of the Quileute Tribe because of Jake’s telling Bella a story he doesn’t even believe, Alice knows.

It changes nothing for her.

She roots for Edward and Bella’s relationship, not because she knows for a certainty it will work out, but because it might. And that slim might, where Bella Swan might survive and become Edward’s lover as well as her own Barbie is worth everything they put Bella through to get there.

Also damningly, Alice cares very little for how good Edward is for Bella just as she cares very little for Bella period. Bella is Alice’s excuse to party and a dress up toy, but Alice will cut contact with her to a) please Edward b) prove a point to Edward.

Worse, Alice will take Bella to Italy, a city where she knows Bella will be killed with a 90% chance upon entry, on the slim chance that they might prevent Edward’s suicide. Yes, she vaguely explains the risk Bella’s taking, but she doesn’t say it in clear terms nor does she waste much time arguing.

Edward is far more important to Alice than Bella.

What I’m getting at is, thanks to her gift, Alice is intimately aware of just what Edward is capable of. She doesn’t care. And yes, there’s something to be said that Edward, more often than not, does not act upon these futures and he shouldn’t be condemned for choices he does not make. However, he does make some of them, and Alice knows.

There’s nothing I think Edward could do to either inform her that she was gravely wrong in how she perceived him or drive her away. Alice would be disappointed he’s thrown the family into such disarray but most likely would try to steer him away from whatever choice would cause such a rift.

She would aid, abet, and enable him because that is what will keep the Cullens together. Which is something Alice very much wants.

Carlisle

Carlisle lives in a river in Egypt, the water is made of double think. There are strong hints that Carlisle’s family is not quite as gung ho or altruistic about the diet as he is. Instead of being appalled, Carlisle quietly lowers his standards, and gives enthusiastic applause when Edward does things like choose not to brutally murder the serial rapist who nearly raped Bella. This is big growth for Edward! He also takes measures like sending family members who have accidents to their victims funeral, in the hopes that something, maybe, might make them see humans as people worthy of life.

If you asked him though, he’d talk about how amazing his family and the Denali are for the diet, and how he’s so proud to be a part of this community that values human life. LOOK HOW MUCH THEY VALUE IT.

When it comes to Edward, I think Edward holds a special place in Carlisle’s heart. He was not only the first person he turned, but Edward left and came back, to Carlisle this signaled that he’d found meaning and purpose in preserving human life. More, Edward... is very good at hiding what he is and is desperate that Carlisle above all others never see it.

Rather than have a conscience, most of the time, what stops Edward from “you name horrific action” of the day is the thought of “What would Carlisle say?” 

My point being, from the outside, especially to Carlisle, Edward truly does look like a noble soul. There are... flags, but they’re easily ignored or written off as issues with Edward’s emotional maturity.

Where Carlisle starts getting concerned is with Bella. Edward leaves for Alaska, great, Carlisle’s proud he was able to make that decision and know his limits. ThEn EdWArd CoMeS BaCK.

Edward comes back, in a week, nothing has changed, and he refuses to leave. Carlisle talks to him, Edward’s thinking he’s better than Hamburger and he can’t let her win, what he actually says to Carlisle is something along the lines of “I can’t run from my fears” Carlisle does an upside down smiley face then says, “Yes, you can, please do” And Edward doesn’t.

Things with Edward and this girl get progressively weird, but Carlisle is very proud that Edward sees the value of human life and not murdering a girl for being nearly hit by a van (this is how low Carlisle’s standards have become), and then Alice goes, “Oh, by the way, Edward is in love with this girl!”

Carlisle just sits there, “Alright then” and quietly puts aside his dreams of moving to a town where Edward doesn’t eat Bella Swan.

But I’m getting off track, this isn’t about canon where Carlisle can explain Edward’s actions away as noble but extreme, emotionally immature, and misguided.

Eating Bella’s not enough. Carlisle will see this as a tragic accident, something he foresaw, but something he assumes will haunt Edward for eternity. And, as it will haunt Edward for eternity (though not for the reasons Carlisle assumes) there will be nothing to make Carlisle question Edward’s character. He was young and foolish to think his limits were endless, but this was a tragic accident.

And it’s something, that in canon, Carlisle is hoping won’t happen but expects with helplessness.

I think there are a number of things that could do it. Had Edward eaten Biology, had he decided to defy Volturi law by eating Saint Marcus’ Square, but staying closer to the realm of possibility...

Had Edward forcibly aborted Bella, murdering her and her child in the process, or else if Renesmee didn’t have her gift, and Edward murdered her after her birth (assuming Jake didn’t get to it first).

Those actions cannot be excused away nor cannot be seen as tragic accidents. They are premeditated and evil, and yes evil is a strong word, yet here we are. This is Carlisle staring in the face of madness.

And that’s what it will take.

If Edward cheats on Bella, then while Carlisle is sad and disappointed, affairs happen and passion fades. More, Edward and Bella married awfully young and barely knew each other, this perhaps isn’t surprising.

If Edward eats a human Bella on the day she’s supposed to be turned, in very suspicious circumstances right at the last minute. Carlisle will know, deep down, but never allow himself to believe it. He’ll think Edward is utterly devestated and had let his guard down on that last day in anticipation of Bella��s turning.

This though, there’s no denying this.

I don’t believe Carlisle can kill Edward. Murder is not in his nature, and more, Edward is so dear to him. And now that this has happened, Carlisle would blame himself in part because surely, the human Edward Masen would never have become this. 

He’d likely reach out to Aro. Eclipse has happened, but not Breaking Dawn, and more everything is in question. He has to know the truth from a man who has seen Edward’s very soul. He goes in person, likely tells Edward his plans, and Edward rages but that doesn’t stop Carlisle.

Rosalie (more on her below) would never forgive Edward, ever, she is done. She and Emmett likely go with Carlisle to Volterra to hear the truth of what Edward is. Esme stays behind with Edward, torn in half, but unable to leave his side in this time of crisis. With that, her and Carlisle’s marriage completely dissolves on the spot. Alice stays with Edward as well, which means Jasper does to, though this likely starts the gears in head and he begins to contemplate leaving his wife. Though I imagine he won’t act for some time.

By the time Emmett, Rosalie, and Carlisle reach Volterra the coven is broken.

If Bella survived, if Edward murdered Renesmee while she was out of commission for three days, then I imagine she too goes to Volterra. Not for truth, but so that Aro can murder her, because there’s no point in living anymore.

Emmett

It would have to be beyond the pale extreme because Emmett gets more hints than most of the family (i.e. Carlisle and Rosalie).

Edward doesn’t really confide in Emmett, per se, but he does say some pretty damning things on their hunting trip in New Moon and give off varying vibes of crazy. Rather than realize that Edward, perhaps, is dangerous, Emmett only gets the feeling that Edward might not be alright in the head. Mostly, Emmett doesn’t want to think about it.

So he gets to listen to Edward raving about how Bella could be crushed by a meteor, wondering why Edward even cares when two days ago he didn’t give a flying fuck about this rando tasty human.

To Emmett, Edward has been laughing madly to himself for days, is now a  paranoid wreck, and is starting to creep him out but... Maybe if he ignores it, Edward will go back to normal?

Not helping is that Emmett doesn’t care about human life. He’s constantly telling Edward to treat himself and eat Bella, in a manner that suggests he vicariously wants to live through the delicious experience (as well as get Edward to calm down). 

If Edward eats Bella, Emmett will slap him on the back and say “Good job, bro!” If Edward eats Bella after the whole “love” thing, well, that’s weird, but, uh, “Sorry, bro?” If Edward murders all of Biology...

Then Emmet might do a double take and think, you know, maybe something’s not right with Edward.

I think he’d suggest he and Rose take a very long vacation and wait for things to calm down. Hoping that, if he ignores this, it will go away and Edward will return to a... saneish person.

What Rose thinks is a different story.

Esme

There is nothing on this planet that could tear Esme away from Edward. Esme’s purpose in life, the thing that gives her joy each morning and each night, is her family which you can condense down to Edward: the best and brightest of all of us.

We see it in canon.

The day after Edward decides he’s in love he acts like a lunatic. The car smells like Bella, as he kidnapped her for a ride home (Bella did not realize she had, in fact, been abducted. Edward does for two seconds then says to himself, “No, no, this is--completely necessary. I’M A MONSTER”

Jasper, Alice, Rosalie, and Emmett get to ride home in this Bella smelling car. Edward keeps laughing, like he’s in an opium den, it’s fucking weird. Edward offers no explanation, the car always smells like Bella, what are you talking about?

Edward then skips to the piano, giggling to himself, and sits down to compose. An action he hasn’t done in years. He’s still grinning and giggling to himself, by the way. Alice joins him at the piano, being equally cryptic and weird as usual. For some reason, Rosalie leaves the room in complete humiliation and shame. This is never explained to anyone watching.

Esme is sitting in the room, taking this all in, and thinks nothing. Instead she smiles, at beautiful Edward, and asks him to play the song he composed for her. She’s so glad to see him filled with joy again. She tells him that he is the best and brightest of all of them.

Esme later gives Edward her pretty much express permission to eat Bella if the girl is causing him such pain and misery. Luckily for Bella, Edward’s in love. So he passes on that and assures Esme the most wonderful thing has happened, he is in love.

My point being, Edward could drop the corpses of the students he murdered in Biology so he could more efficiently eat Bella at Esme’s feet and she wouldn’t blink. It wouldn’t even process for her. Esme would continue carrying on as Esme, nothing changing, while the rest of the family stares agog at the city Edward just murdered.

There is nothing Edward could do or say that would ever change Esme’s mind and she will always treat him as her favorite child.

Jasper

With his gift, I imagine Jasper suspects. Edward loathes Rosalie, despises him, and his feelings for others are... strange. He holds indifference and contempt for mankind and when it comes to Bella. Woof, what a cocktail.

He has no proof though, but I imagine if the smallest thing comes into his lap, that suspicion would become a certainty.

As for what he’d do, it’s hard to say.

I think, in most scenarios, he’d look the other way. Yes, Edward is a monater, but Jasper to is a monster if for different reasons, he has no room to judge. More, Edward is in many respects the heart of the Cullens, far more than Japser himself is. If Jasper goes causing strife, making accusations the others may or may not believe, then the coven could collapse.

This place, these people, are what Jasper thinks he’s been searching for all his life. For the first time, he knows peace, and is trying to live a life where he doesn’t persist in agony every time he succumbs to eating. Jasper is not going to risk that falling apart, even if he finds Edward unpleasant.

And if Edward keeps it to himself, or if the occasional human is the victim, then that’s a price Jasper is willing to pay.

Jasper might actually get concerned when it comes to Bella. For all Bella’s not very close with him, he holds her in very high regard. He nearly devoured Bella, and she forgave him, she forgave him his monstrously brutal past and has never flinched from him. She is a reminder of what humanity can be and why it’s important.

If he realized the threat Edward is to Bella, not just in eating her, but on a level much darker than that, then he might start to act and would probably try to get Bella to leave while she could. However, he also likely knows Bella would never listen, because she doesn’t see what Edward is and nothing would convince her otherwise. Not to mention, as soon as Jasper knows, Edward will plot against him so that no one in the family will ever listen to a word he says.

Not to mention that Alice, of course, must know and doesn’t care. That will be quite the blow to Jasper taking any action.

Barring extreme circumstances, Jasper does nothing, he just watches and waits to see what the others do.

Rosalie

For all that Edward doesn’t bother to be nice to Rosalie, and is ready to lay into her at a moment’s notice, he’s very dear to her. He is, in all regards, her brother and she cares for him deeply as she does the family as a whole.

Rosalie has no idea what he truly is and it would take a lot for her to accept it. More, unlike Carlisle, although she prizes human values and tries to hold herself to human standards her morals have slipped enough that she genuinely advocates murdering Bella Swan in her sleep so that Rosalie won’t have to move.

Murdering Bella won’t be enough, Rosalie will see it as the accident that could have been avoided if Edward hadn’t insisted on being a fool. 

I think, for Rosalie, the best way to drive it home would be a sexual crime. Had Edward forced Bella’s abortion in Breaking Dawn, that would have done it. First, it’d be such a messy, bloody, affair at that point and would look like a horror show (which means Edward’s more than likely to eat Bella in the process). Second, this would be Edward taking the child that Bella wanted, tearing it from her and murdering it, and performing the most vile action that Rosalie can likely even contemplate.

I don’t know what she’d do, I don’t think Rosalie’s capable of killing Edward, she cares for him too much, even after something like this. However, I think she would make an ultimatum to Carlisle “either he goes or I go” and then would never speak of Edward again, he’s dead to her.

[transjinako]

I was looking at Yugioh cards and was inspired to make Pierre Simon Laplace a servant so here she is. 

Foreigner: Pierre-Simon Laplace 

Alignment: Chaotic Good

Parameters: 

Strength: C+ 

Endurance: C+

Agility: B+ 

Luck: B+ 

Mana: A 

NP: A+

Traits: Existence outside of the Domain B+, Territory Creation A, Cosmic Core A+ 

Skills: 

Laplace Transform! EX: The Laplace Transform is a mathematic transformation of a function of a real variable into a complex one, done on a Complex Frequency. However, this term is often used to call up Laplace’s suit of armor. Laplace says quite assuredly that her suit is made along the basis of the Laplace Transform equation, though no one can possibly follow her reasoning when she explains. 

It is therefore obvious that... B-: Laplace was and still is a true genius, her mind moving and deducing at speeds that could even rival certain detectives. She is able to come upon ideas and theories that would be beyond anyone’s reasonable way of thinking, so even though her mind rivals that of a certain detective, she can’t quite explain her ideas well to others so the skill isn’t as strong as it could be. 

Ultra Heavy Stars A-: A destructive skill that carried over from Laplace’s approaching of a black hole. These Ultra Heavy stars are weapons Laplace often uses in combat, their gravity pulling in light, magic and anyone else too close to it’s vicinity, anything that touches it’s surface is quickly crushed from is deadly pull. However, due to their imperfect nature, they can’t last too long and collapse in on themselves soon after creation. 

Noble Phantasms:��

Laplace’s DAEMON 

Rank: A

Type: Anti Causality 

Description: Laplace had theorized that a higher being, or someone or something that understands the universe from the stars and planets in the sky to the tiniest atom would not see the past as the cause of the present, nor the present as the causality of the future as normal humans do. Instead, it would see all events laid out before it as though it were a complete mechanism. With the help of her suit, the Arcueil, Laplace is able to expand the limitations of her mind in order to see the past present and future as if they were all the same time. Technically speaking, it is not precognition, as this skill moves the user to the perspective of an outsider looking in, the forward movement of time being meaningless to that thought process. It cannot be considered to be divining one’s Destiny either, as it also takes in account the many variables of events. All this to say, Laplace is the only one able to comprehend and apply what she learns from this Noble Phantasm. 

The Arcueil

Rank: B++

Type: Anti Divine 

Description: The suit of armor Laplace transforms into when going into battle. It was created for the soul purpose of learning more about the galaxy, the solar system, the stars, while also being made with them in mind. It draws on the power of the solar system thanks to Laplace’s deep understanding of it’s harmony. The suit was also made to prove that the solar system is a function of nature rather than something divine or otherworldly controlling everything, as such, it gains the power of nature to stand in defiance of higher beings that claim to have created and control it. In another dimension entirely, it would likely be the basis for a certain police force from space. 

The Harmony of Nature 

Rank: EX

Type: Anti Threat Against Nature 

Description: This noble phantasm is the culmination of Laplace’s relationship with nature as well as the solar system. As someone who researched the solar system as well as the forces of nature, she has become extremely close to it. In respect to her harmony, her automation, her infinite complexity toward her simple goals, Laplace can only ask to power the power of nature so that she might be able to protect her. When granted this blessing, it is something akin to the Anima Animusphere, although instead of controlling the stars and planets to her will, she moves with their will. For just a short while she becomes a part of the infinitely complex mechanism that is Nature for the sole purpose of protecting it. 

(All that being said, the attack she uses while in this state tends to be a destructive kick from the air, it looks extremely heroic.) 

Description of Servant: Laplace is a strange case when in person. She is almost always wearing her armor, looking more like a robot than anything. She doesn’t put off the disposition of being a friendly person, as she can be quite robotic, dry and maybe overly logical, but she really is. She can easily get lost in telling people the things she has learned and in kind learning about others and what they know as well. She can be pretty socially dense, she doesn’t quite know when people don’t like her so she goes along acting friendly toward them when she can, it can be pretty charming in some cases. 

The reason Laplace is always wearing her Arcueil is because it allows her to be closer to nature, which might seem odd to others but when you consider how much of her life she threw into the study of astronomy you might be more understanding. She can be convinced to present herself as a normal human at times though, as that can be another way of being a part of nature, but also when she figures she doesn’t need to constantly monitor her surroundings. 

Although her alignment does claim her to be Good, she works chiefly for the good of the world. You might think a certain greater being had influenced her, but that is simply the way she is. She doesn’t hold humanity’s importance over that of the world, but she does acknowledge that humans have a duty to know about the world and defend it together, this is what drives her to keep teaching and defending humanity. 

Interactions: 

Voyager: Oooh, I know of you, little traveler, but not about you. If I could be a little bold...maybe you might be able to recount me on your findings personally? If it wouldn’t trouble you at all, as well as how you were made. You are a machine, yes? Perhaps I can use you to improve my...ah? Oh, don’t worry, I would never take you apart. You are much too precious. 

MHXX: Is that…? E-excuse me, officer…? Ah, yes we are very much matching. Ahem, who exactly...made that? I- yes, yes your suit is very cool. Regal as well, in its own way. But I just wanted to ask- my own? Erm, well, I was inspired by nocturnal birds, as they use the stars to navigate and- Y-yes! I would like to talk more sometime! Uh, see you...later? ...I couldn’t even ask where she acquired such an armor….

Waver: That Waver fellow reminds me of some of my own colleagues and professors, though he is a lot more pleasant to be around. He’s also quite expressive, i’ve been able to tell when the things i say fly right over his head several times now.

BB: A being from the moon, or rather, an AI from the moon’s supercomputer. She’s incredibly strange but….interesting too...perhaps she would let me study her, or perhaps help me study the moon some? But then again, even I can pick up on those murderous vibes so...maybe i’ll ask someone else…

Da Vinci: Ah! Madam Da Vinci! Might I join you in the lab today? I promise I will only look over the shoulder and not add too much input, I know it harms your focus! Er, not even over the shoulder? I have to sit next to Holmes…? Well...as long as he is...all up there…

Jeanne Alter: Oh hello Master, I was only popping in to get some of my books. You see, Madame Alter seems to be interested in some of my work. I saw her reading a book of mine, muttering it out loud, when our eyes caught. I was happy to give her a more personal account of course, though I do hope I didn't catch her at a bad time. When I left she seemed slumped over, as though tired. Ah, well, I can at least lend her more of my books. 

Sun Servants: You all claim to be the sun itself...Well. There are three of you and yet only one sun so- o-oh your all the sun, together. Well, and I do not wish to...question any of your logic. But perhaps you merely...derive your power from the sun instead of- Ah, as I said, lord Ozymandias, I do not wish to question- hm, Ms Quetzalcoatal I do not wish to challenge you for- Oh...it's part of your...appeal? Ms Tamamo? ….I see...n-nevermind.

Napoleon: Oh. Napoleon. Hm. Oh, don’t worry, master, we don’t have a...terrible relationship per say, but I definitely wouldn’t call us friends, even if he insists on such. We have, an understanding, I suppose. So I can tolerate him for the most part.