redux-iterum · 24 days ago
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Since we're on the topic of -heart cats, would you be able to share any info about the other Clan's cats who qualify for the suffix? It seems that RiverClan has the most with Pansyheart and Dawnheart which I thought was very interesting, though Wind and Shadow have Roeheart and Flyheart respectively. I'm so interested in the naming system of the rewrite! Keep up the amazing work! ♡
I haven't taken the time to mull over most of the allegiances' background cats, just because I have so many main ones to focus on, so I can't give a particularly satisfying answer here. Apologies for that! I'll do my best with some quick thoughts.
-heart cats are named for their firm morals and strong beliefs that are near impossible to shake them from. This can display itself in any manner it pleases - whether you're endlessly loving like Fireheart, or extremely dedicated to the code, or fiercely protect stories and folklore in the name of preserving history. So on and so forth. That means these cats could really have any personality we want for them.
I gave Pansyheart a pretty empathetic character in the one scene we've seen her in, so I feel like she's more sympathetic to outsiders of all kinds than the rest of her Clan; she's probably gotten in trouble before for tossing a fish to a skinny loner across their border. Dawnheart, I don't really know, but for fun, let's say she has a weirdly specific set of opinions on hunting in the water and insists gifts be given to the ishmet at every visit to the river, enough that her Clanmates tease her for it.
Roeheart and Flyheart? Not too sure on them either. A WindClan -heart would be just as flat and monotone as their Clanmates, but they may announce their decisions more than the rest and go against orders to do what they think is right. ShadowClan -hearts tend to be a little less sweet and polite than their Clanmates, possibly standing up to town cats a lot more and having controversial opinions. They're still seen as a positive, because ShadowClan greatly admires those who dedicate themselves to something they believe in and enjoy. Maybe Flyheart is the same!
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warriors-but-cats-die · 3 years ago
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Hi! I see that you have different lore and rules in your au, (ie. elders choosing names, seers changing clans which I think is SO interesting omg, clans not speaking the dead's name) would you ever go more in depth with those changes? I'd be very interested to see your take on the clans cultures!! Love this blog so much!! ♡
aww thanks for the curiosity!
wbcd is actually pretty tame in terms of worldbuilding stuff for me, because. bookkeeping. that's -- almost always the answer lmao. i'll do links first and then ramble broadly about clan culture below the cut.
my (warriors) main, @mallowstep, is where most of the relevant content is contained, although i'm ngl for the past few weeks we've just been Experiencing this web of riverclan aus so. this morning i debated the existence of the original sin in warriors. "debated" more like -- talked through? i don't know.
anyway.
i have two worldbuilding related series, the elders' den (folklore) and five clans alike in dignity (worldbuilding essays). it's been a while since i've added anything to either of them because "poetry. hymns. language." has been kicking my ass way more than i expected, but they are living series.
and if you want some proper seers switching clans (i.e., as a thing that's part of the culture, rather than something that happens in an emergency), saccharine tithes of love and glory is currently at 6/8 works and explores that idea starting with yellowstorm (yellowfang), and i just posted squirrelflight.
but for some broad notes:
riverclan
there's...a lot. riverclan is easily one of my most developed clans. i'm trying to keep this stuff to bullet points, because i will literally not stop talking if i don't (see: one of the first things i did this morning was read through the wikipedia page for the doctrine of original sin to talk about how that was compatible in riverclan's belief system.)
core belief: all riverclan cats carry the divine in them (literal descendants of the river)
core values: patience, pride, flexibility, creativity
unique practices: building shrines for the dead and having water burials; bone divination; weaving; raiding the twoleg place; keeping trinkets
main spiritual practices: holidays; veneration of the moon; looking for river spirits
social structure: fairly nuclear
meta-thoughts: they're a proud clan, but because of that, they're the most accepting. it's sort of, "you're one of us, so it doesn't matter -- you have value."
shadowclan
probably the least developed clan. i'm always trying.
core belief: heritage matters, birthright does not (i.e., a focus not on who your parents are, but a respect for the past)
core values: cunning, respect, loyalty, community
unique practices: a large and long list of prayers that seers need to memorize with very specific purposes; prefixes are associated with the last cat to hold them, something which then reflects on the next cat to get the prefix; deep mourning traditions
main spiritual practices: group prayer, led by the leader in the morning and the seer in the evening; serious holy days (vs. riverclan's holidays); limited belief in the ability of a "normal" cat t connect with starclan
social structure: large focus on extended kin
meta-thoughts: i'm always trying to add on to shadowclan, but i've yet to find a story to tell in shadowclan that makes me want to sink my teeth into their culture. there's also -- a problem with them being a diaspora culture, and i'm trying to describe an "ideal" form that hasn't existed since...cedarstar, probably
skyclan
my beloved. i'm not much interested in old skyclan, so:
core belief: loyalty to the clan (really, a focus on being a community, rebuilding, etc.)
core values: adaptability, cunning, loyalty, resilience
unique practices: asking kits if they want to be part of skyclan; having clan meetings on the new moon; naming cats after the very recently deceased
main spiritual practices: nothing has really set hold, yet, other than group prayer/gathering on the new moon
social structure: the whole clan is one family, although they lean towards nuclear
meta-thoughts: they're a new clan, and that's really what this is about. everything about them is about surviving, and so they're very pragmatic. results oriented. etc.
thunderclan
aka, i refuse to accept thunderclan is boring
core belief: a deep focus on commitment to the clan (very communalist)
core values: decisiveness, loyalty, respect, community
unique practices: telling stories with repeated lines; not speaking the name of the dead; deeply valuing skill in battle
main spiritual practices: a deep focus on individual prayer; belief in invoking the names of specific cats; believing the journey to starclan takes several moons; limited spiritual weight in the position of seer
social structure: focused around maara/denmates, often over maach/bloodkin
meta-thoughts: while i haven't done terribly much with thunderclan, it's because i think thunderclan as-presented is pretty good. it's not that they're the default, it's just you're mostly familiar with them. they have a really, really big cultural thing around stories though, more than any of the other clans. while all the clans use stories to explain things, thunderclan takes telling stories very seriously. they're learned nearly word for word.
windclan
aka someone decided windclan should have hymns and i think we all latched on to that
core belief: a focus on commitment through sacrifice
core values: patience; respect; flexibility; mediation
unique practices: calls for casting of stones fairly often (all clans have conflict resolution, windclan is just most likely to use them); requiring the seer to confirm the name of each kit as not being ill-omened; pack hunting which has three roles; a commitment to ecology; sentry duty
main spiritual practices: the hymn, which is split into main sections and sung through, in part or whole, about once a season; holy days (fasts and singing days) have no fixed occurrence but are announced by the seer as little as the morning of; leaving the dead on the open moor so they can run to starclan
social structure: broadly communal, a deep sense of ties between mentors and apprentices, an expectation that mates will be well-integrated with both families
meta-thoughts: much like thunderclan has a lot of sayings derived from stories, windclan has sayings derived from hymns. while i've removed tunnelling from windclan, i've replaced it with a new way to categorize warriors. the three running positions are flusher, chaser, and catcher, and while all cats can run all positions, flusher is the most highly specialized because they're responsible for land management.
alright! i always have more to say about this, but. that's a start.
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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Forgive me if I'm remembering wrong, but I believe at some point you guys had mentioned that the Clan's territories are bigger than they are in canon; if so, how long do you think it'd take a cat to walk the entire border of Thunder's territory? I think you guys do a great job of describing the passage of time in the series, so I can definitely picture the territories being larger and thus taking more time to navigate while reading. Have you guys ever drawn a map of the territories for the rewrite?
Hello to you! Lynx has wanted to make a proper map for a while, but she's never gotten around to it, and for now I'm content to use the original maps when the territories are essentially the same, just larger. We may end up using a proper, originally-drawn map for the next couple arcs, at least.
In terms of time: going at a trot, it takes a full day to go around the entire border - that is, from the beginning of the evening to the beginning of morning. Most patrols, therefore, only take one chunk of the border to check on and mark so that the cats in the patrol can take half or two thirds of a day to do their job and then come back to camp to rest and eat. ThunderClan is the most concerned with border patrols thanks to all their neighboring communities, so they've got it down to a science. The rest don't care as much.
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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WE COULD HAVE HAD IT ALLLLLLLLLL
TIGERCLAW WHYYYYYYYY
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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My heart aches for Fireheart 😢 Our poor sweet boy. I also really love the conversation with Bluestar this chapter, I think it and the characterization of Bluestar were really well done and very suspenseful, I love this turn way more than the Canon one lol Excellent job as always, friends!
Many thanks, man! Poor Fireheart's just getting put through the emotional wringer this act, isn't he?
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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I'm heartbroken rn, poor sweet Silverstream, she was such a fun and lighthearted character, and the fact she died surrounded by her Clanmates who were furious with her 😭 Leoparddawn has every right to be angry with Greystripe, this whole situation has my heart heavy 💔
It's a real bummer, ain't it.
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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Omg omg I am literally gonna be on the edge of my seat until next week's chapterrrrrrr hwjfbwkdbsosbekwsn
The next chapter is going to be a very fun one, I can promise you that.
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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My heart warms when I see how much the Clan has grown to love Fireheart ❤️
He's earned it, for sure. You'd be hard pressed to find someone other than Darkstripe that doesn't like him.
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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I feel like Tiger genuinely cares for Fire, and the conversation they have about Tiger being ready for a family thanks to Fire just makes my heart ache, but I just can't help a tinge of anxiety as the story goes on
Why on earth would you be anxious? They're bonding! A good ol' father-son duo, just living their lives.
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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And we’re having a good time today!
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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Gosh I just know this Fireheart is good with kits, I need to see him being dogpiled by Frost's kits and him bonding with Snow 😭😭
He'd be such a good uncle!
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redux-iterum · 10 months ago
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YESSSSS LORE POST LORE POST IM FROTHING AT THE MOUTH
Apologies for not writing these for a while. I've been busy with the fic itself and Lynx had to wrangle her brain into behaving, which is a nigh-impossible task.
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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I need to see Fireheart slap the shit out of Greystripe, ever since I first read Fire and Ice as a kid, i need the catharsis 😩
I feel you so fucking strongly, dude. So strongly.
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redux-iterum · 1 year ago
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Good marrow, friends! Silly question, do you guys have any voice headcannons for any characters in Iterum? :)
Lynx likes Officer Grayson from Arcane for Yellowfang, and Alexander Armstrong for Lionface, minus the hamminess. She also suggests the texture of Haru's voice for Cinderpaw. I personally don't have any actual voices for the characters, just a faint idea of how they sound in my head, so I am no help here.
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redux-iterum · 2 years ago
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Good evening! I'm sure you won't be able to answer this in risk of spoilers for Iterum, but we're there any side plots or backgrounds for characters that you couldn't fit into the story? :)
Evening! We take care to get in what we can as long as it's sensible and interesting. There's a lot of altering of plots and characters from canon, but I assume you mean "stuff we wanted to put in and couldn't", which the answer is "not much that I can think of right now".
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redux-iterum · 2 years ago
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Good day! May I ask how old Fireheart is at the start of Burning Hearts? Just curious!
Good morning! He's about a year old, maybe a year and change.
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