#specifically his pro milone

[thistelltaleheart]

Shout out to my Latin professor for making that exam not only easy, but actually kinda fun.

Well, as much fun as you can have in an exam, anyway.

[p-clodius-pulcher]

Paid 10$+tax for a book with ten of Cicero’s orations and just from the first page of the introduction I’ve gotten my moneys worth of joy

“On the other hand his morals were conspicuously pure.” Also the specific mention of the pro milone. Yeah I’ll believe it my sweet chickpea who has naught done one moral wrong

[domusplautii]

Well... I was writing a fiction but then, somehow, I got sucked down a rabbit hole and ended up writing a whole Wikipedia entry instead. 🤦‍♀️

This is not the first time and alack, I can almost promise it won't be the last.

In case anyone cares to know a few things about a random Roman of the Plautii gens, here it is:

Publius Plautius Hypsaeus

Publius Plautius Hypsaeus was a politician of the Roman Republic during the first century BCE.

He was probably the son of Marcus Plautius Hypsaeus, consul 125 BCE [Syme, p.87.] who, in 73 BCE, prosecuted Marcus Crassus for incestum with a Vestal Virgin.

Hypsaeus was quaestor sometime around 60 BCE under Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus, and he was said to have had his amicitia (friendship/political backing) [Asconius, C.16–18, Syme, p.255.] He was Aedile Curulus in 58 BCE [Syme, p.492] and Praetor in 55 BCE [CIL 1.159 ILLRP 386].

In 52 BCE, Hypsaeus was one of three men – alongside Titus Annius Milo and Quintus Metellus Scipio – who campaigned for the consulship in 52 BCE.

Their campaign was divisive, involving extensive bribery of the people and the formation of armed gangs loyal to each candidate. The open hostility was particularly marked between Publius Clodius Pulcher and Titus Annius Milo. Milo, backed by Cicero, was on one side, while Clodius and both Hypsaeus and Scipio were on the other. Their open violence culminated in the murder of Clodius and the burning down of both the Curia Julia and the Basilica Porcia in the Forum Romanum.

In consequence, the elections for the consulship and praetorship could not be completed, and Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus was made sole Consul for the year.

One of his acts in this position was to propose trials for several offences, in particular the giving and receiving of bribes. He allowed that anyone who wished to could call anyone to account for a period of almost twenty years, specifically since his first consulship. [Appian, 2.23]

Hypsaeus was one of a number of prominent citizens to be prosecuted under these new laws.

Pompey, despite their amicitia, was quick to abandon Hypsaeus during the prosecution for electoral malpractice in the following way: While he was coming from his bath, Hypsaeus threw himself at his feet, begging for help as a nobleman and a friend. Pompey insulted him, and walked away, saying that he was keeping him from his dinner. [Valerius Maximus 9.5; Plutarch, Life of Pompey, 55.]

He was found guilty and exiled. Only Milo, exiled under the same law, had his wealth confiscated. [Appian 2.23.]

Sources:

Valerius Maximus, Memorable Doings and Sayings.

Marcus Tullius Cicero, Pro Milone.

Quintus Asconius Pedianus, Commentary on Cicero’s Pro Milone.

Plutarch, Life of Pompey.

Appian, The Civil Wars.

Ronald Syme, The Augustan Aristocracy.

John T Ramsey How and Why was Pompey Made Sole Consul in 52 BCE?, Historia (Jstor) 65, 2016/3 298-324.

Martin Stone, A Year of One’s Own: Dating the Praetorship of Marcus Crassus. (Academia.edu).

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[clodiuspulcher]

Hello! I don't know if you've answered a similar question before, but what are some good books about Clodius Pulcher and Fulvia? I'm really interested in learning more about them and their contemporaries. Do you have any favorites? Any books to avoid? Thank you! :)

The short answer is: there’s not much so mostly I take what I can find in works about other more “big-name” historical figures. The ancient sources have some information about them if you really look- some more than others. Cicero’s letters from  the year 61 or so (when Clodius invaded the Bona Dea rites)  up until Clodius’s death in 52 have a lot of information about his political decisions, actions, and behavior although of course they’re colored by Cicero’s interpretation and personal enmity. The BEST Cicero letters about Clodius are from 60/59 when Clodius becomes a plebeian / becomes tribune / takes power, there’s a lot of detailed descriptions of Clodius’s political maneuvers and alliances and he’s REALLY frustrated about Clodius manipulating the adoption process for his plebeian transfer and has Something to Say. His speeches also, though they’re more exaggerated than his letters, have fun things to say about Clodius, and he talks about Fulvia JUST a little too in a few of them (thinking about the pro milone and the philippics specifically)History writers like Plutarch and Appian talk about Clodius as a violent, deranged agent of chaos which is a harsh oversimplification but they’ve got Cicero as their main source so. Clodius gets a shout-out in Lucullus’s biography (the mutiny), Cicero’s of course, and Caesar’s (since they were allies- side note this is the only Plutarch biography that even attempts to provide a balanced picture of Clodius as Plutarch says Clodius won the favor of his constituents through ‘beneficial laws’). He’s also mentioned in Pompey’s and Antony’s biographies i believe (since Antony was in w/ the crowd). Speaking of Antony, the majority of the Fulvia content we have comes from writings about Antony. Plutarch’s life of Antony has… THE most amazing Fulvia characterization, and the same Roman historians who mentioned Clodius probably have a few more lines about Fulvia because of her marriage to Antony. We don’t have the bulk of direct primary source information we do about Clodius (god bless cicero’s hatred for him tbh…. we get so much from it like the Pro Caelio is the gift that never stops giving) but she gets more focus from historians because of her power at the end of the republic, her marriage to Mark Antony, and her war against Octavian. Cassius Dio and Appian i know eventually write about the Perusine war & Fulvia’s political activities; her political impact also gets special notice bc its so rare a woman had as much influence as she did. Those are the ancient sources- there’s a biography of Clodius called ‘The Patrician Tribune’ you could read if you want Clodius’s life in exquisite detail. I purchased it and loved every second of it and livetweeted it also. I don’t know if there’s an equivalent for Fulvia but basically every Mark Antony biography has to go on a Fulvia tangent eventually and I just kind of piece all of that information together..Hope this helps!