#svsss nuns

[tossawary]

do you know if theres like, a scum villain wife list or something. Of all the wives mentioned in canon. I cannot find one and I need it for a thing I'm writing :(

Someone may have made a comprehensive blog post on absolutely everything to do with Luo Binghe's harem somewhere, but I haven't personally seen one. This is the wiki's list of his known wives:

https://scumvillain.fandom.com/wiki/Harem.

(I keep thinking to myself that it might be worth looking into a wiki contribution week or something so that SV fans can have these things for reference in full detail. The wiki in its current state is still very much under construction and also the particular company here "Fandom" suck generally. But I've never contributed to a wiki before, so I wouldn't know where to start.)

Part of the difficulty with naming all of Luo Binghe's wives in PIDW is that there are only rough estimates for how many he had exactly and it's unclear what statuses they actually had in the harem. And I believe that he also had love interests he never actually officially married in any way.

I'm going to list off wife / love-interest characters off the top of my head here in vague summary. I'm going to request that people add on or correct me here if I'm missing anyone or straight-up wrong about anything (relevant direct quotations are always welcome). I have digital editions of the novels now, so I may control+F for "wife", "wives", and "harem" after work, then copy-paste the relevant quotations into a big document, because I'm curious now and I want to see what results that I get from that. If someone has made and posted a comprehensive canonical list regarding the harem already, I'd appreciate the link.

Ning Yingying: wife and childhood sweetheart.

Liu Mingyan: wife.

Sha Hualing: wife.

Qin Wanrong and Qin Wanyue: I think that they were wives, twins, Luo Binghe's first threesome, and also were bullied by Sha Hualing a lot.

Little Palace Mistress: wife and I also vaguely remember some commentary from Shen Yuan about her being the "leader" of the harem in some way.

Qiu Haitang: wife.

The Three Taoist Nuns: wives, they had something to do with taming the Xin Mo sword in PIDW, and are Liu Mingyan's RPF buddies in SVSSS.

Madam Meiyin: it's stated in the succubus extras that she and Luo Binghe had an affair. I don't think that she ever married him, though.

Aaaaand that's everyone I remember. The known, named canonical list isn't actually very long, which is generally why everyone ends up inventing original characters. There are also unnamed canonical love interests, like the one afflicted by the Without A Cure poison in PIDW, but I really do not remember them all.

[bichenique]

Listen. I need you to know. The nun triplets are implied to have been the ones to write the Chunshan song based on Liu Mingyan's writings.

thank you for being a messenger for a divine message 🥹🥹💓💓 theyre def the reason why PIDW became catered to women 🌈🏳️‍🌈

[web-novel-polls]

MXTX Side Characters Tournament

Jin Ling from MDZS

Submission 1: He may be a brat, but he has a good heart and a friendly dog. He thinks he's the main character of a much less intense story which keeps almost getting him killed 

Submission 2: Bestest boy in the whole world. He's got a dog! A helicopter uncle! His dad's sword! Yeah he can be a little brat but he's SIXTEEN okay (or thirteen, or whatever, MXTX HELP) and he's got an incredible capacity for forgiveness. He's so good! 

Daoist nuns triplets from SVSSS

Submission: Authors of "Song of BingQiu" and the true culprits behind the ass wine extra. Stop crediting Liu Mingyan with their hard work! 

["Anti-Propaganda" that attacks other characters is NOT allowed. Please only give reasons to vote FOR a character.]

[zykamiliah]

Those beautiful Daoist nun triplets were pestering a person with sweet and gentle words. In fact, it was a person who wore a veil, looked cool and elegant, and radiated an atmosphere of integrity: Liu Mingyan.

(...) He sent two more side glances at them and only heard those three sisters say coquettishly, “Good Sister, Good Master, Good Senior, please give us an autograph.”

“We went through so much difficulty to meet the author. Please leave us a momento.”

“Is it truly to be discontinued, with no further reprints?”

EXCUSE ME SVSSS TUMBLR, why is NO ONE talking about this??

"coquettishly" fangirling all over Liu Mingyan,

COQUETTISHLY

Friendly reminder that this 3 will then go to write a bingqiu book LONGER than resentment of chunchan. It amuses me to think that they went "well if the author will not write more then we have to take over" good for them GOOD FOR THEM

I wish they had names orz

[danmei-confessions]

I truly think SVSSS deserves a revision more than any of MXTX's other novels.

I love the novel, yes, but it is poorly written. MXTX rushed the chapters after Bbingqiu's reunion due to using VIP lock for the first time and it makes the writing distinctly worse. I understand that she was young while writing it, which is the whole reason why it deserves a revision. The novel could have so much more potential than it currently does and it's no wonder that it's her least popular when even fans of her other novels choose to not read it due to being uninterested.

So much more story could be added, or just minor details. For example, we barely know anything about the 12 peaks all together, and unless you make up facts, there's practically nothing on their peak lords too. I see complaints about the SVSSS wiki being empty regarding the peak lords and I hate to say it, but that's NOT due to the moderators but rather pure lack of content. Hell, most of the facts that do existed were only in the light novel and not in the web novel at all. There's such little information it's really not shocking that the fandom runs on head-canons. In all 100 chapters of her novel, half of it in slightly plot, while the other is SQQ being... SQQ.

I have so many thoughts on the potential SVSSS has:

Despite it being mentioned that there are 'plenty of minor sects' we only hear the name of one.

Despite sects like Tian Yi or Zhao Hua being a part of the main 4, we know almost nothing about them, how they run, or their disciples/sect lead (literally the only named Tian Yi disciples are the 3 nuns). We also don't know their locations, what locations they control, or their history

The past events of SVSSS (before SY transmigrated) are so messy. Theres only 2 timelines I've found here on tumblr and even those are so different from each other. Theres no clear years compared to TGCF or MDZS and its so frustrating. This also leaves characters practically age-less (other than like. Binghe) unlike her other characters.

Almost none of the side-characters grow development with anyone other than Shen Qingqiu. I say 'almost' but I can not name any off the top of my head. There are characters that have/had such interesting relationships that were completely thrown out the window For The Plot. This is so.... disappointing, considering other character's relationships make up the plot! It's not only the MC!

Everything being rushed is heartbreaking, and with a re-write I think arcs such as the Holy Mausoleum, Jin Lan, Borderlands, etc could become SO much more interesting. Alongside that, the Mai Gu Ridge situation was blown off so fast?? Like, it was mentioned that the Endless Abyss was breaking through CCM, then just never mentioned again...

Power Scaling. Fights. Actual fights between people who aren't LGQ or LBH. We only really got NYY/LPM, MBJ/his uncle, and TLJ/LBH. Most of those were ALSO rushed.

The System's appearance was reduced LARGELY in the later chapters-almost like MXTX forgot about them. The whole first 2 volumes include The System so much, and its unique! functions! all for it to be disregarded and those functions to never be used other than the jade necklace.

Actually going into the wonderous world of PIDW that is claimed to have interesting weapons (only Xin Mo was shown), locations, plants (only Qingsi and that one thats too long for me to feel like typing shown), and creatures (only rly ZZL and Madam Meiyin shown).

That's all I really have right now. I'm not trying to be an anti of MXTX's other novels. I just think that SVSSS has so much potential that she could have brought out if she had chosen to revise it. I love TGCF and MDZS very much, they have great scaling, brought-out potential, and relationships that SVSSS so could have.

I do want to exclaim that out of all her 3 novels SVSSS has been my favorite for years. I genuinely feel upset that it was not the one picked despite how obvious it is that it has barely any NEW content. Or at the least, confirmed facts. In her QNA's most of the questions are purely MDZS/TGCF while there's maybe 2 SVSSS ones. Those few questions answered by her are literally lifelines for some fans. (Such as heights and Moshang) The novel could become popular just if the criticisms/potential of it were actually addressed. I'm not saying that casually but I am very sure of it as MXTX is a freakishly great writer and she COULD take the novel to the same heights as TGCF/MDZS if she truly wanted to.

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[svsss-fanon-exposed]

just wanted to say thank you so much for this wonderful blog!! i enjoy it a lot and feel like i’m learning a lot from it. it seems to me that out of the three mxtx books, that sv is the one with the most prevalent fanon attached to it - or maybe the one with the most fanon confused for canon. i wonder if this is because of the nature of the text as a kind of au of pidw- there’s sort of more than one canon in text, and due to shen yuan’s relationship to the original book, and his narrative POV, maybe people kind of take on this more meta-textual approach to sv itself as a novel

You're very welcome! All I really want out of this blog is to learn things & also to share things with others to learn too!

While I won't necessarily say that SV has the most fanon of the three novels, since I'm not overly active in MDZS/TGCF fandoms, what you say does make sense. Because, even in SVSSS itself, we also are dealing with Shen Yuan's fanon the whole time! And as we find out through the novel that SY's original ideas of PIDW's background weren't all correct, then it's easy to wonder if there are also other things to blame on SY's PIDW fanon (such as the argument in real-world fandom as to whether SJ abused disciples other than LBH), or on his unreliable narration in SV canon (something like, were the three daoist nuns actually interested in LBH, or were they actually blushing upon seeing him after having read Regret of Chunshan and the like?).

Since a major idea in SV itself is that Shen Yuan as the reader didn't know everything about PIDW, it creates a situation that is so very ripe for speculation among fandom-- and of course, when there are different kinds of ideas, some of them will take off more than others based on who relates to them and in what way.

That, aside from the multiple timelines in the novel itself, can make it very easy for fanon to become so common that it gets mistaken for being canon.

And, of course, the fact that even with all the worldbuilding that does exist in SVSSS, there is still so much that hasn't been explained or gone into-- so of course, in transformative works, fans will have to come up with their own explanations.

[mellicindi]

My fave sequence of events in SVSSS

There are a lot of contenders, but I think it’s gotta be:

-SQQ is pulled into a dream where he sees how much distress Binghe went through while microwaving his corpse for 5 years.

-This makes SQQ so feels-horny that he fucks Binghe into a Qi Deviation (and then blames Binghe for ‘seducing him’)

-During this Qi deviation, they can’t bang, and are also surrounded by the other dudes SQQ unknowingly wife-beamed. This re-awakens Binghe’s insecurity.

-Once he recovers, Binghe addresses his insecurities by trying to Do Good Sex. How does he do this? By taking a page out of godawful RPF smut written by nuns

-SQQ chugs wine up his ass

[joys-of-everyday]

SVSSS’s women and MXTX’s commentary on sexism

Every time someone starts with ‘MXTX is great but her women…’, I feel conflicted. I think the way she writes women is secretly brilliant, but that was a conclusion I came to after a long hard think about SVSSS (which was the third series I got into). I absolutely went through the 'MXTX is great but her women...' phase.

So thoughts for my fellow travelers on this journey of enlightenment or whatever. I’m focusing on SVSSS here, because otherwise the post would be more than three times as long. I'm also not... idk how to phrase it... 'starting at the basics' since I think there's plenty already out there on MXTX's strong/not strong presence of female characters. (There’s this for advertisement. Then a somewhat more involved post on Su Xiyan which is brilliant btw. defo recommend.) This is more like... side notes, of things I have yet to see discussed. (maybe someone has discussed them and I've yet to find it.)

1. Ning Yingying, Institutionalised Sexism, and Growth

There were also some incredible female cultivators, but on the whole, these girls’ strength and mental fortitude was lacking, and they often required help… they spent their time playing around instead of actually working. Basically they looked quite hopeless.

What I really have to appreciate about SVSSS is that it slaps you around the face with a giant cucumber so you really can't miss it. This was the passage that made me put down the book and think. Why is this here? What is the point? Idk it just stuck out to me.

So there's a lot to say here about SY's stunning narration, what that says about his internalised beliefs, as well as the portrayal of women in certain genres and how frustrating it can be as a reader/viewer (looking at you, shonen), but I wanted to divest for a second to mention implicit sexism (for no other reason than I happen to care).

In SVSSS, there isn’t much explicit sexism aimed at female characters in world. By this, I mean there is no point at which a character in the world of SVSSS says sexist things to a female character, nor are there moments were female characters are specifically barred from doing anything because of their gender. Of course, it could in part be due to SQQ’s blindness to such issues, but there’s also another facet to this – the abundance of implicit sexism.

The Little Palace Mistress was the Old Palace Master’s beloved daughter. Her martial skills were the product of his hands-on teaching… Meanwhile, Ning Yingying was the beloved youngest shimei who was pampered by the entirety of Qing Jing Peak; she very rarely encountered danger and had virtually no real battle experience.

Ning Yingying is never pushed. She’s loved and cared for, but not expected to excel. The thing with implicit/institutionalised anything is that it’s hard to point to any specific case and go ‘that’s sexist’ or whatever. The effect is only clear when taken over a larger group. Returning to the Immortal Alliance Conference, what do our female participants look like? We have LMY doing her thing, ofc. But QWY? QWR? Their immediate reaction to danger is to cling to the nearest strong person and rely on them for protection. It feels like they’ve never learnt to stand for themselves.

MXTX’s later works often get the ‘there aren’t enough female characters in positions of power’ or ‘all the female characters die’ kind of remarks, but I think there’s something deeper to be said about the kind of commentary it's making on society. Anyway, I won't go deeper here, but the subversion of NYY’s stereotypical role (and so arguably the whole point of her character thematically) is that she doesn’t continue to be the loli icon with IQ 40. When NYY is forced to fend for herself and given the space to grow, she does grow. And isn’t that a nice message?

2. LMY, the Daoist Nuns, and Sex Positivity

Because her face was excessively beautiful, capable of stealing souls, she had to hide it behind a veil all year round, rendering her like unto a flower on a high cliff, unattainable and out of reach.

The women of SVSSS are all about subversions of troupes, and the subversion of LMY’s troupe is twofold. At first, she is introduced as the ‘pure’ one, in contrast to SHL’s ‘sexy’ (commentary on the ‘two types of women: frigid and slut’ narrative). Then she’s the ‘not like other girls’. She’s beautiful but doesn’t care for her looks. She doesn’t care for men but they fall at her feet. She’s stoic and competent, the ideal of a ‘strong independent woman’. And then, right at the end, we learn that she writes very kinky gay porn.

I think there's a lot of disappointment around for LMY's potential not being fulfilled, and while I agree SVSSS on the whole wrapped things up very quickly, honestly? I think this is the funniest twist ever.

LMY a fanfic writer, a shipper, a BL enthusiast. The kind of woman whose literature has always been regarded with something between confusion, denial, and disgust: from the rise of shonen ai and Yaoi of the 60s-80s, or slash fiction in 70s, to the popularity of danmei in China. The CP fan, in all its bravery and ugliness. She's not a hero, she doesn't particularly do anything, other than pursue her hobbies. She's neither ‘pure’ nor ‘strong’, but touchingly realistic.

And even better, she’s not alone. There’s the Daoist nuns, who (hilariously) are nuns who in an apparently life-or-death situations suggest dual cultivation??? (Now celibacy was necessary in some Daoist schools but not all, but since Shen Jiu mentions specifically that there’s nothing strictly wrong with him sleeping with prostitutes because they’re not a Daoist sect, it feels like there’s a subversion lurking there.) (idk they have Catholic girl school vibes.)

ngl, I just love LMY. She's very sexy.

3. LPM, QWY, and Breaking Down the Mean Girl

If LMY is ‘not like other girls’ then the LPM is the ‘mean girl’. Also, the ‘girl who tries to break up the MLs’ of a BL. The two troupes are in the same ballpark. Rich, pretty, privileged. Also petty, stupid, and unnecessarily cruel. More generally, the Huan Hua trio - LPM, QWY, QWR all take different elements of the 'unlikable girl'.

I don’t have many deep thoughts about this, other than their abject failure to make a dent on LBH’s devotion to SQQ being really funny (and an excellent post on QWY which breaks down her character and her relationship to og!LBH), but something that snagged with me is the comparison between these extracts.

Why did he act like one of those bitter courtyard complex concubines with too much time on their hands?

This is about Shen Jiu. Ya know, Shen abuses children Jiu.

He very much did not enjoy the sight of a sixty-year-old coot and a young girl in her teens cooing at each other right in front of him.

This is one of two (?) times that svsss mentions a young girl being married to an old coot (the second being SJ's mysterious jiejie). If you didn't know, the situation of women in much of Chinese history is... not great.

The Little Palace Mistress: Bitter, locked-up woman. She herself says that Luo Binghe treats her like a kept pig.

Also, the existence of Wang Lingjiao in MDZS, servant turned lover, who everyone hates (she’s the one stuck to Wen Chao if you’re like me and forgot her name most the time).

There’s condemnation there (none of these characters are portrayed in a sympathetic light) but there’s a hint of pity there too. LPM has lost a father. QWY a sister. And in MDZS, WLJ is plagued by the anxiety of an unfaithful lover who she relies on entirely for her power.

(Someone (irl!) mentioned Beauvoir to me in a (not svsss!) conversation (lol the brain rot is real but not 100% yet) and now I feel like maybe I should go back to the Second Sex for svsss reasons (so maybe the brain rot is real 🤔). Beauvoir writes a lot about 'bad women'.)

Anyway, this is not particularly organised and doesn't really have a point. I might expand some more on something at some point, but that requires me having coherent thoughts, which probably requires me having actual conversations to get a few things straight, so no guarantees. Whatever. Have a great day :)

[asukaskerian]

monthly word count - august

TOTAL: 7 143 some progress!

POSTED: nothin'

IN PROGRESS -bleach - suburban ot4, two attempts at the start of chapter 20, both failed (349 words) -svsss - cosplay binggeyuan fic (6 691 words) (where did it come from???) -cherry wine (32 words) (something is wrong in what's already written and i can't figure out what) -mdzs - attempt at fic that immediately died on me idk (71 words)

yeah so the winner of this month is the cosplay fic, wow. :X

Also posted: -Swimming With the Fishes - bleach Daemon AU outside yakuza POV, harribel -You Know Better Babe - bleach ABO sequel ficlet to Howling Outside Your Door, ichigo nesting feels.

-- teasers :

-- suburban ot4 -- "H-hi... I was in the area, and I thought, maybe--"

Nelliel stands on her doorstep, staring dumbly. She thought it was Grimmjow having forgotten his keys. He's been dragging Ichigo out after school recently. 

But it's not, it's Orihime. Flustered and her smile twisted down, her big shining eyes sad.

She didn't expect it. It isn't like they haven't been talking at all since she found out the Kurosakis had up and left their old house without a single word...  It's just been very surface-level, is all.

For a long moment she thinks of stepping back into her apartment without inviting her, letting Orihime be sorry at the door, make Orihime marinate in uncertainty and rejection and guilt, but that's passive-aggressive. If Nelliel misread their degree of closeness, that's on her.

... That's on her.

-- svsss cosplay fic -- Say what you will about Airplane Shooting Toward The Sky, he was meticulous about making the outfits look cool. Absolutely unrealistic, but this was high fantasy, not pure martial arts. Weird ribbons and young human ladies showing positively indecent bare calves were par for the course.

Therefore, Shen Yuan spent a couple of weeks speed-rereading to update his excel files with every single reference to the style of everybody's clothes when and why (alas, torn-during-a-fit-of-passion alterations included), downloaded the commissioned official art, downloaded the fanart Airplane had thumbed up (even if some of it seemed thumbed up for cleavage or ridiculousness instead of correctness)--

And then he *learned new things*. Like drawing detailed character reference sheets, making a pattern, sourcing cloth (so many wasted bolts of inferior taffeta in his cupboards); he had learned to use his mother's sewing machine (bonding time! Unexpected and pleasant!) and then he had learned how to make fake armor and how to make belt charms and how to style a wig, and then, at the end, he had gone to his sister, hat in hand, to ask to be taught how to apply makeup.

Never mind that (he'd checked) cosplay was judged on the costume, not the body of the person inhabiting it. He was not going to do Great Master Liu the dishonor of a pimply face. 

"You ready?" Shen Jiaying asked, uselessly, before he went out on stage.

"No but it's too late for that, holy fucking shit why did you let me do this."

She laughed in his face, and thwapped his chest with the back of her hand. "You look fine. You're not gonna win though."

"Yeah, no." Considering that even just amongst the PIDW crowd there was an Abyss Binghe complete with red-light-lined Xin Mo and ultra-fine gauze floating all around as demon qi thanks to a very clever little fan sewn into the back of his belt, he was not expecting to. The Yue Qingyuan was good too, and the triplet nuns, and-- ahh, he really was in the infancy stage of this hobby, wasn't he. 

The other Liu Qingge was here, though. Fuck that guy and his half-assed sleeves.

[vodkassassin]

Hm

i wanna… draw all the peak lords in fancy dresses

Everyone immediately pls send me what dresses you think suits each peak lord best.

We have 12 fancy outfits to chose here:

1. Yue Qingyuan, M, sect leader and peak lord of Qiong Ding peak, the peak over general affairs and ruling.

2. Shen Qingqui, M, peak lord of Qing Jing peak and chief strategist of the sect. Qing Jing is the scholarly peak that focuses on teaches the Four Arts.

3. Wei Qingwei, NB (hc), swordmaster of the sect and peak lord of Wan Jian peak, which crafts swords and teaches the art of the sword and where all sect disciples go to obtain their spirit sword.

4. Shang Qinghua, M, lord of the logistics peak An Ding peak. All senior An Ding disciples live in houses called Leisure Houses. An Ding takes care of day to day functioning of the sect, like budgeting and agriculture and trade and etc.

5. Qi Qingqi, F, peak lord of Xian Shu peak, and all female-peak. Girls Only club, HC: this peak trains its disciple in espionage and information gathering. They work closely with An Ding for this reason.

Since QQQ is the only female peak lord she will be wearing a fancy suit (bc women in suits just hit me like 👌🏻 mmyeah )

6. Liu Qingge, M, peak lord of Bai Zhan peak, the war division of the sect that focuses on training its disciples in the martial arts.

7. Mu Qingfang, M, doctor and peak lord of the medical peak, Qian Cao. All disciples take a HC svsss version of the hippocratic oath and focus their skills on healing.

8. Kang Qingxiu, M, lord of the all-male Ku Xing peak. Boys Only club to Xian Shus’s Girls Only. It’s disciples live a monk-like lifestyle. Kind of like nuns, but male?

9. Shui Qingyu, M, peak lord of the brewery peak, Zui Xian. They brew the sect alcohol. HC: also creates disinfectants for Qian Cao... etc.

10. Chang Qingzhi, FtM, peak lord of the talisman and array production and research and development peak, Fa Ming. They produce most of the sects wares in terms of talismans and cultivation arrays, working closely with Qing Jing to also produce cultivation manuals.

11. Ju Qingsong, M, peak lord of Yang Shou (beast tamer peak). This peak is foremost on monster and creature knowledge, but also trains spirit animals such as dogs and cats and horses. They also rear cattle for produce, such as cows and sheep.

12. Rong Qingsheng, M, peak lord of Kong Tian, the agricultural peak. They produce most of the sect’s food and fiber (for weaving and paper making and what not), and sell their produce to the world for profit for the sect. They work closely with the beast taming peak for animal produce as well.

[tossawary]

A list of words that I'm going to "Control+F" through all of SVSSS + extras (official English translation only, unfortunately) with at some point later, in order to collect all of the quotes regarding PIDW Luo Binghe's harem, its members, and other love interests, because I'm curious now. I will copy-paste relevant quotations into a document.

Wife

Wives

Concubine(s)

Harem(s)

Marriage(s)

Married

Marry(ing)

Affair(s)

Cheat(ing)

Cuck

Love (interest)

Female

Woman

Women

Xin Mo

Stallion

Sex

Fuck(ing)

Seduc(e) / Seduc(tion)

Conquer

Dominate

Submit

Swoon

Papapa

Virgin(ity)

Sleep with

Soothe

Provide

Child

Baby

Pregnan(t) / Pregnan(cy)

Abort(ion)

Miscarriage

Son

Daughter

EDITED TO ADD:

Heavenly Pillar

Cock

Dick

Penis

Courtyard

Sister(s)

Demoness

Saintess

Nun

[bichenique]

i finished book 3 of svsss. using a-yao gifs bc i cant cope

i need my dignity back what the fuck did mxtx put me through.

yue qingyuan didn't die but zhuzhi-lang did 😭😭

WHAT DID HE DO TO DESERVE A FATE SUCH AS THIS????

he's only trying to repay those who truly cared about him, even if it's a smidge.

And then i find out abt bing-ge's backstory and su xiyan

and all ive been doing is crying to the crane wives' never love an anchor — it's so them-core.

so are we gonna ignore the fact that luo binghe is just moses in a bl world?

me crying to my other two braincells in my head:

su xiyan really mothered but expired asap. what's with mxtx and dead parents?

standing ovation for master wu chen, he was so fucking real and kind for letting luo binghe know that his mother fought to keep him alive.

also a glimpse of liu mingyan possibly being a bl writer— it got the daoist nuns crazy‼️‼️

girl is the bingqiu shipper behind the scenes. the veil she uses is just to hide her smirk.

i imagine tianlang-jun is a fan of her works.

shang qinghua can rest easy after his work was avenged. capitalism ruined his art, he'd be reeling and screaming in the internet if he found out about ai art. FUCK AI‼️ Suck a dick and die‼️‼️‼️

"Are you looking down on gay protagonists? The arts and artists love portraying gays. Pure literature favors gays— you know that, right?" - Shang Qinghua, Vol 3 of svsss

honestly, he's so real for that, and he detected slight homophobis from ssq.

i will, however, confess to shen qingqiu that my writing philosophy is indeed the gays 🏳️‍🌈

to book four we go.

[web-novel-polls]

MXTX Side Characters Lower Bracket

Daoist nuns triplets from SVSSS

Submission: Authors of "Song of BingQiu" and the true culprits behind the ass wine extra. Stop crediting Liu Mingyan with their hard work! 

Xue Yang from MDZS

Submission: It's not that he's evil. He lacks empathy and he goes into a disassociative state and commits atrocities. 

["Anti-Propaganda" that attacks other characters is NOT allowed. Please only give reasons to vote FOR a character.]

[fandomtrumpshate]

By the Numbers update!!

With just over a day left to sign up as a creator for Fandom Trumps Hate 2023, here's a quick roundup of all of the numbers:

We have 705 offers by 527 creators (I've had to update this three times while writing this post!). Of those, 97 are offering to work in ANY fandom! The rest have signed up offering fanworks in 273 fandoms, including 177 write-in fandoms! (To compare that with roughly the same time last year, as we approached 24 hours left to sign up for FTH2022 we had 680 offers from 525 creators in 257 fandoms including 153 write-ins … meaning we have 23 more offers in 16 more fandoms by the same number of creators for 2023 … SO FAR.)

A look at the offers, broken down by type (with last year's numbers in italics for comparison purposes) -

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Finished volume 3 of SVSSS. Thoughts...I can see why people Shang Qinghua and Mobei Jun, though I wish we saw more of them.

I also desperately wish we actually saw Su Xiyan instead of just hearing about her. I am not surprised about this but I am also Disappointed. In general my thoughts on women characters in this book can be described as, “Unsurprised but disappointed” with the sole exception of Ning Yingying. Even then, after Ning Yingying’s one real cool thing she doesn’t really do much again. Which sucks.

Liu Mingyan is probably the single biggest disappointment. As the former main girl of the novel there was a lot of potential for her to do shit. Especially with Shen Qingqiu. But she just...Doesn’t do anything? She shows up and is mentioned as having a cool veil and like that’s fucking it. Like...She’s there? I guess? I feel like SVSSS would be a stronger book in general if Proud Immortal Demon Way’s female characters were used for much more than jokes and Liu Mingyan I feel is, by far, the character who would add the most to it. As is she is squandered.

Given the mention of the nuns pestering her, I choose to believe Liu Mingyan shall pick up the role of harem master in Luo Binghe’s place.

These opinions are unsurprising I guess, given that my gender is “Sapphic who moonlights as a bi man sometimes”.

The sex scene I also found boring at best. Thankfully everything else after that and before it made up for that in spades but like. It was not a good sex scene. Not even for the kind of tone and thing it was supposed to be.

The thing with Shang Qinghua wanting to write a danmei novel also stands out to me as something that is a bit disappointing. I liked it a lot, but I also wish we’d gotten to see more of it. That this concept was expanded upon more. Again, especially as it regards Shen Qingqiu.

Despite this litany of complaints, I still have found this to be the most fun read out of MXTX’s three novels. It’s a flawed work, for sure, but it’s a very fun one. And I do think that the handling of Shen Qingqiu’s sexuality is well done. Luo Binghe’s too, but Shen Qingqiu’s I think is the highlight of the book. It also highlights what transmigration literature and similar genres uniquely bring to the table.

I sometimes hear people say that the frame of isekai isn’t really needed, but I always find that claim suspect. It’s not the isekai doesn’t need the frame. It’s that so much isekai fails to make use of the frame properly that it feels that way. Things like Re:Zero and I’m in Love with the Villainess show the potential of the isekai frame in storytelling. SVSSS manages this too. And that I think is its single greatest triumph as a work. It manages to use the framework in a fun and interesting way that enhances the story and which is so integral to it that you cannot remove it and have the same story.

As negative as a lot of this all sounds, I do want to state I like the book a lot. And really a lot of the disappointments are of the form of “I wish this thing I liked showed up more” or of the form of “This had so much potential and didn’t get used”. And I’m very interested to see how the book ends, since we’ve already handled the whole romance starting thing. Which I am very grateful for. I don’t mind books ending on romance starting but I’d prefer they not. I like seeing new couples or established ones do shit. Ex couples too. Like one of the most hype relationships I’ve seen is Imp and Abalyn’s in The Drowning Girl and they’re broken up for most of the book.

We’re starting to ramble a bit so let’s cut the post off here.