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#tee hee i love this arc. i love all of them but i dont ever rlly talk abt this one.
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simon peter is the funniest apostle to work with because in theory he's the most loyal, most by-the-book of the apostles so you'd expect him to be the most logical and collected one but 80% of his concerns (pre crucifixion then everything went downhill and they all died) are that he has a crush on every person he encounters
#🧅#im not religious just insane.jpg#true poly disaster. funniest shit ever.#cause yknow simon p's a fisherman he's married he's a very poster family man#and he loves his wife he really does. im not gonna make the only guy who's married fucking Hate his wife and want to like. go have gay sex#instead cause mlm good mlw bad. but he does have his. Issues. concerning how he views women#he's gonna work on that though i'm not leaving him like that don't worry. peter already knew the torah by heart probably for peter turning#to god meant learning how to respect women. and yknow people he considered 'ungodly' in general. to respect humanity as he respects god.#tee hee i love this arc. i love all of them but i dont ever rlly talk abt this one.#but anyways yes he does love his wife.#then some strange guy shows up while he's fishing and he's like follow me son of jonah i will make you a Fisher Of Men. and peter's like#TEE HEE OKAY JESUS i will come fish men with you.#which......okay....simon....... interesting that u wanted to do that..... with zero context....#and then cue weird thing with magdalene. which. they don't end up together by Any Means.#they hate each other. they have not spoken in a civil manner once. but they do have a weird bond between them than only aromantic people#can understand.#WHICH BTW i already knew there's a thin line between polyamory and aromanticism. but it really showed when while trying to#explore how peter experiences polyromanticism i found myself projecting a lot of my own aromanticism on him#(is polyromantic a correct term? i'm not sure these terms really confuse me especially considering the time period cause like. polyamorous#describes a relationship with multiple people which peter obviously wasn't in in 30 AD. but he Did have romantic feelings for multiple#people so is that polyromanticism? or is that a completely different term? idk. bare with me.)#very interesting. anyways yeah there's that. magdalene is aro also to me. so yeah this is one of the most fun dymanics i have in this lore#cause like. polyromantic person and aromantic person somehow having the same mutual not platonic not romantic but a secret third thing#connection with each other. i love thinking about them
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Weird q..but i really dont understand why most fans hate season 4, especially the last episode. Why? I think it gave us a deeper look on both sherlock and mycroft! I felt it tells a lot about mycroft how he had to step in and take control of things ever since he was a kid himself. Also he is not a robot or a killer. Also redbeard thing. It was an appropriate deep psychological trauma (cause most shows usually disappoint in that area). I am not trying to impose my opinion. Just want to understand
Hey Nonny!
It’s all good, and I totally respect your opinion and how you enjoyed S4! It’s totally okay! I know that there are quite a few who got a lot of of S4, and who genuinely enjoyed it.
Sadly, I am not one of those people, and I’ll try to be as diplomatic a possible in my response, but PLEASE know that I don’t think you’re “terrible” or “stupid” for liking S4 because I DO get passionate sometimes in my responses, and I’m just merely speaking as someone who studied the series very closely for quite a long time before S4 aired, and as someone who knows Day-One-ers (ie., people who watched Sherlock on its day one airdate) who also are a large majority of the people who did not like S4. This is just me simply stating why I didn’t like it, but it’s different for everyone.
Stating what I DO like: The acting and cinematography of the first two episodes were brilliant for what they had to work with, and I’ve never faulted any of the actors for the flaws of S4. And for TFP, they did the best with what they had to work with.
That’s… pretty much all I really liked about S4.
Now, here’s my problems with S4:
Nothing made a LICK of sense to the narrative that they were telling in Seasons prior. 
This series was always based a bit in reality, and suddenly everything became comic-book rules: X-Men villains, shitty “redemption” arc, destroying favourite characters just for drama, ludicrous physics, explosions that only destroyed one small room in an apt where in previous episodes one explosion destroyed an entire block, etc.
Sherlock was OOC.
Mary was being built up to be a fantastic villain? Ah, nope, here’s the lacklustre twist where tee hee Mary’s just an assassin with a heart of gold that still emotionally abuses Sherlock and John and just won’t fucking stay dead.
And speaking of this, the DVD’s make NO LOGICAL SENSE unless she was planning to kill herself
AND she tries to make her death equatable to Sherlock’s??
Everyone was RIDICULOUSLY out of character in TFP, I’m so sorry: Mycroft is a bumbling coward for the most part, Sherlock disregards John when he gives the Vatican Cameos warning, the Holmes Parents are assholes because Mycroft COULDN’T SOLVE A PROBLEM WHEN HE WAS 12?? ARE YOU SERIOUS???? And that creepy Moriarty / Eurus thing, and LITERALLY they’re implying that EVERYTHING HAPPENED BECAUSE EURUS DIDN’T GET A HUG. Like, I’m so sorry, but that’s lazy writing.
And don’t even get me started on the ridiculousness of the entire character of Eurus. She LITERALLY had X-Men powers, and like… just nothing made sense. Her involvement in the entirety of S4 MADE NO SENSE. Why go back to prison if you can get out?? WHAT IS THE POINT?? AND I repeat: She did all this because she didn’t get a hug. Yes. I’m oversimplifying, but at the base level, that’s what it was, because she wanted Sherlock’s attention. Welcome to the club, kid, stand in line, everyone on the SHOW wants his attention.
The ENTIRE plot of the first 2 seasons got wiped out all because it wasn’t Moriarty who was interested in Sherlock, but Eurus?? What… What about Carl Powers?? Like…. the ENTIRETY of season one and TGG makes no sense now, because of that one 5 minute scene where Eurus “enlists” Moriarty. I… ugh.
The SUDDEN tonal switch from kind-of Sherlock to James Bond, for some fucking reason.
And on that note, how terribly lazy and cheap TFP looks in comparison to the other two episodes. The whole episode looks like it was filmed in a small house with 4 identical rooms.
EVERYTHING that was etablished in 2 episodes prior were COMPLETELY forgotten when Mary was “shot”.
The complete character assassination of one loyal blogger John H Watson in favour of Mary for some fucked up reason, even though AT HIS OWN WEDDING HE COULDN’T STAND BEING AROUND MARY. I’m sorry, but I don’t believe for one damned second that John would EVER forgive Mary for murdering his best friend after seeing what it did to him. That’s not love from her, and that’s NOT John’s character EVER in the ENTIRETY of the series.
And speaking of character assassinations, Molly’s character being devolved to S1E1 Molly, where instead of giving her agency like they were doing with her the ENTIRE series, so much so that Sherlock picked up on her dominance enough to give her a big role in his mind palace in HLV and TAB, only to make her a sad little self-insert Mary Sue pining for the main character, and in turn made Sherlock a TERRIBLE human being for MAKING HER say what she did. It’s gross.
AND speaking of Molly’s character, they’ve been setting up Mollstrade since as early as ASiB, but I guess that plot line got shafted. Look I LOVE Hopkins, and I am ANGRY they didn’t give her more than 3 fucking lines in the entirety of ONE episode after HEAVILY promoting her actress and character, but they essentially reduced her to a piece of ass for Lestrade to chase. AND THAT’S NOT HIS CHARACTER EITHER. EW GROSS.
The constant plot holes being gaped wide open, and the Chekov’s gun moments where they bring up shit but do nothing with it!! 
TD-12? Nope, just a lame reference to a story we like. 
John got shot at the end of TLD with a VERY REAL FUCKING GUN? Nope, it was a dart gun. 
John not suddenly knowing how to be a doctor.
The TGG one I mentioned up above. 
What was in the letter? And who was Anyone??
Moriarty essentially being erased as anything other than a hired thug and had no part whatsoever in Sherlock’s history. 
Eurus… Just all of her character is asinine. 
Everyone in T6T suddenly not knowing John’s the blogger, which is in direct contradiction to literally the entire series. 
The AGRA plotline was ridiculous, in the end.
Baby? What baby? It was only there when convenient.
They dropped whatever plotline they were going to do for Mycroft: He was being set up as either dying, or the villain.
Redbeard. I’m sorry, I disagree with you on that. Mofftiss is trying to tell me that a little boy fell down a well and went missing, and that WASN’T the first place searchers / the police wouldn’t have looked? Sorry, no. And then. AND THEN his parents just… go along with this thing where Sherlock shuts down and they DON’T get him therapy? Yes, I agree the mind is a funny thing, and we can be traumatised into forgetting or dissociating from traumatic events. I GET IT. But… like I don’t believe the Holmes are so heartless as to just never grieve or have memories around about their supposedly dead daughter. It’s another OCC thing for me.
John’s cheating.
Disappearing and reappearing characters, like this scene, and the entirety of the aquarium scene.
Mary and John being terrible parents
OH GOD THIS FUCKING SCENE. That bomb SHOULD HAVE DESTROYED THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
What… who was this girl on the plane? What? Like I know WHO, but if she’s supposed to be Eurus talking to Sherlock, why don’t we see Eurus… talking to Sherlock? I … Ugh.
NORBURY. 
The glass SUPER SECRET GOVERNMENT ROOM THAT NO ONE SHOULD SEE INTO in T6T.
Sloppy camera work that some believe was intentional, but if it wasn’t, jesus c’mon.
The RIDICULOUS amount of 4th Wall Breaking. Like… even the actors didn’t give a shit.
Essentially, everything on this list here and in this blog tag here.
And everything mentioned on these three posts:
T6T: 10 Revealing Things That Haunt You Late at Night 
TLD: 10 Revealing Things That Haunt You Late at Night
TFP: 10 Revealing Things That Haunt You Late at Night
There’s SO much more I can go into, but please go through my “something’s fucky” tag in that last link.
Notice how probably 90% of that has NOTHING to do with “johnlock not becoming canon” because the Johnlockers get MONSTROUS accusations as to THAT being why we didn’t like S4, even though it was, like critically panned by the GENERAL AUDIENCE who have NO investment in the series other than “I liked it in the past”.
Two of my fave YouTubers have interesting (not perfect, but still good) takes coming at the series as casual viewers:
‘The Day Sherlock Died’ by The Closer Look
‘Sherlock is Garbage, and Here’s Why’ by hbomberguy
So it’s NOT just Johnlockers. I’ve talked to Sher1011ies at 221B con who didn’t like S4 either, because most of them realized how shitty Molly was treated in the last episode. So yeah, a big middle finger to those who think I dislike S4 because of  “no Johnlock”. No, I disliked it because I need my stories to make logical narrative sense. I disliked it because I love John and they ruined his character all for the sake of drama and because Moffat has a “hurting Ben” kink. I disliked it because Mary should NOT have been “redeemed” because she was an abuser. I disliked it because Moriarty was turned into a cartoon villain, even though he was already overused in the series. I disliked it because the core of the show – the FRIENDSHIP of Sherlock and John, and their solving mysteries together – did not exist at all. I disliked it because John got sidelined. I disliked it because TFP was a ridiculous episode that, if you replace ANY of the characters, it wouldn’t make a difference, because it didn’t feel like an episode of Sherlock. I disliked it because everyone was OOC.
Anyway. Sorry. One too many accusations my way over the past 1100+ days LOL.
As for your assessment of TFP, I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you. There was no growth and actually it implies something far more sinister: That the Holmes are and were terrible parents that gave no shits about their daughter, their traumatized son, and expected their eldest to essentially be a parent. It implies that Mycroft, at 12 years old, orchestrated the ENTIRE Sherrinford thing… Look I can suspend my disbelief, but there’s limits, and this is one of them. A LITERAL CHILD. Perhaps Uncle Rudy had a hand in it somehow, but then why not shit on Uncle Rudy? Why is Mycroft blamed for it all?
Look, I don’t doubt Sherlock had a traumatic experience regarding “Redbeard”. But then why play into the fact that he was a dog? Why bring another character into the series just to have a gotcha moment? Because Mofftiss wanted a “Shyamalan twist”, that’s why. They threw EVERYTHING away for a twist ending either because they GENUINELY thought it was good, or they got tired of doing Sherlock. ALL of TFP is LITERALLY a really bad plot twist because reasons. TFP makes no sense to the ENTIRE narrative structure of the previous 12 episodes. It erased EVERYTHING from the previous episodes, and coated it with a gross closing by a character no one wanted in the series, and then tried to convince us that it’s a new beginning – “a journey they had to go through” – but it SOLVED NOTHING.
Anyway. I have big feels about S4, and the only way I can enjoy it is to watch it subtextually, but even then, I cannot sit through TFP without cringing. 
That said, Lovelies, please do not attack Nonny for enjoying S4! I know you guys won’t, but Nonny came out with an olive branch and they just want to understand why the fandom is passionate about S4′s… whatever it was. We can have a civil discussion about it, and point out – without attacking – why S4 is universally panned. It’s okay to like things no one else does, and Nonny was respectful to me in this ask! 
So with that, feel free, lovelies, to express why YOU didn’t enjoy the series, or why you did! I’m interested in both “sides” / pov’s whatever :)
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Hello tomato senpai! I am curious about Akko 1-15 if you are still free in doing it of course xD btw good luck for the experiment!
OH HECK YEAH I’M STILL TAKING THESE. Tee hee thanks for sending one in!
1. how long have i known about them
Same time as Diana- around the beginning of May in 2017. I think I knew she was the main character of LWA at that point.
2. whether or not they’ve ever made me cry
Naaaaah.
3. whether or not i have any merchandise/objects with them
I have her nendo, the LWA Chronicle book, and I forgot to mention this but a few fan made keychains, Ticcy’s Gala book, and Milk Puppy’s art of her and Diana printed out on my wall LOL
4. what about their personality i like
She’s not afraid to say what she wants and do what she wants. It can be a drawback, but at the same time I also believe you’ll never accomplish something if you don’t try for it in the first place. So yeah Akko sucks at things but she doesn’t let the fear of failure stop her and at least tries.
And well, she’s a bad student but she tries. Which already puts her above Amanda’s lack of effort in my book. But Amanda has her own circumstances XD
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5. what about their backstory makes me emotional
Honestly I think Akko’s lived a pretty good childhood as far as what canon’s given us. The part where she so happily watched Chariot’s show and then unknowingly got her magic stolen from her is probably the worst. And I guess if you tie in the fact that Croix basically called her unimportant since, you know, she’s just a regular person watching Chariot’s shows.
6. the moment of theirs that made me the saddest
That part when she finds out Ursula = Chariot and that betrayal.
WHY CAN’T I FIND THAT GIF OF HER GOING “USO DA” Anyway.
7. the moment of theirs that made me the happiest
I KNEW IT WAS COMING BUT WHEN SHE FINAL-FUCKING-LY HOVERED ON HER BROOM IN THE FINALE I WAS LIKE “GOOD FUCKING JOB YOU FUNKY LITTLE WITCH”
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8. something about them that made me laugh
Akko makes the best faces honestly.
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9. my favorite canon outfit of theirs
Her casual outfit with the big coat and stuff.
10. my favorite moment with them in canon
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Croix and Chariot have their weird lover’s spat and unrequited love thing that is really more complicated than it should be.
Then Akko comes in, previously heartbroken about the revelation of her idol and mentor, and just Shiny Arc’s the monster that’s about to kill both Croix and Chariot.
You go my child. Go be a badass and show those adults that you’re stronger than them both.
She’s also super badass in the finale when she’s using transformation magic against the missile gone rouge.
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Like, this is the witch who started from nothing and sucked at magic so much that everyone assumed she would drop out. And look at her now.
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LOOK AT HOW BADASS SHE IS. WHAT GOOD GROWTH. And it’s a realistic improvement too. She doesn’t suddenly become OP, it doesn’t take one month of training for her to get super good. Nah. It takes her an entire year to get this good. And she still has a lot to improve.
11. my favorite relationship they have with another character
I like the big sister/motherly relationship Chariot shows Akko. Of all the professors, Ursula is the only one who ever helps and believes in Akko. I don’t think it’s purely because Akko found the Shiny Rod or because she feels bad for taking Akko’s magic either. She wanted to help Akko because Akko struggles, and just wants to be a good mentor when no one else will.
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12. what i like about the way the fandom portrays them
She retains her “genki girl” personality from canon, so that’s at least accurate. Also her bad luck and prone to injury traits are... definitely there LOL
13. what i dont like about the way the fandom portrays them
So this is... honestly a personal preference thing and not a criticism of any fan works at all. And this is certainly different now.
When I first joined the fandom I was astonished at how many fics focused on Akko angst and not Diana (my fav). So that’s why I started writing and eventually uploaded the Mending Hearts series. I like seeing my favs suffer, but unfortunately Akko isn’t my main fav in LWA. It took me over half the series to even tolerate her. But she’s in my good book now.
And honestly, there’s nothing wrong with writing angst for her! Especially since she is prone to rash decisions and therefore injuries more so than someone as careful as Diana. I’m just unreasonably and unfairly picky.
14. what i liked about the way canon portrayed them
So I’ve never been a fan of genki girls who are stupidly stubborn to the point of absolute selfishness. And Akko was just too stubborn and self centered for me to immediately warm up to. Again, I’m a bigger fan of the cool, stoic, and talented ones who help others and are respected in return.
But that doesn’t mean Akko doesn’t care about other people. It’s just that her goals are very self-centered (which is fine don’t get me wrong) and that affects her actions and the story (since she’s the protagonist). And she doesn’t have the capabilities to back her up (in the beginning), so a lot of the first cour was me putting my hands on my face and groaning into infinity while trying not to scream “Please shut up and sit down you fucking idiot.”
If she had stayed like that and somehow fixed plot points, I would have gotten mad. But LWA does a good job of showing how Akko’s actions have consequences that not only punish her, but also her friends. She needs to grow and improve in order to even proclaim her goals.
Also, as selfish as she is, she is genuinely nice and caring of her friends. Honestly, I probably wouldn’t mind Akko as a friend. I’d probably smack her upside the head a few times though.
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And her friends love her in return.
What’s also great is that she gets no convenient power up during this development time. Finding the Shiny Rod is definitely a protagonist thing, but she also had to go through a lot of trials and personal growth just to be able to use it properly.
Akko from episode 1 and Akko from episode 25 are different people. And I’m glad to see her grow.
15. what i dont like about the way canon portrayed them
What was that bs from episode 21. What happened to patience that she learned from episode 15? Why was she so mean to Ursula when Ursula has always been the only one nice and understanding to her? Why did she trust Croix, a fucking stranger who just came to Luna Nova, over this kind and caring professor who has been with her since day one???
AKKO FFS WHY.
Honestly every other time was tolerable until that episode and I just blew up. Anyway.
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