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#the almost burying your gays refers to eddie
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only the option with the LEAST votes will be eliminated. propaganda under the cut (and more always welcome!):
chrissie cunningham and eddie munson:
Had the CUTEST SCENE IN THE ENTIRE SHOW where they flirted and he tried to sell her drugs but then SHE GOT MURDERED and it was tragic
ava silva and michael salvius:
They have some amusingly straightbaity scenes where Michael initially appears to be interested in Ava (meeting her in a bar, asking questions about her, pursuing her to get her to do things with him and inviting her to kick ass with him) but almost all of these scenes are explicitly for plot reasons or end up displaying the closeness of Ava and Beatrice (and Beatrice’s jealousy over Ava seemingly being interested in a man) instead. Michael and Ava develop a strong close relationship that feels more sibling-esque by the end of season 2 and also Michael straight up dies at the end of season 2 as well.
nina zenik and matthias helvar:
[MAJOR SPOILER] If they were truly straight Matthias wouldn’t have died (submitter also stated that nina is revealed to be bi/pan)
oscar francois de jarjayes and andre grenadier:
Oscar was afab but her father gave her a boy's name and raised her as a boy (by 18th century standards) because sexism and he had 5 daughters and decided she was going to be a son because they were a noble family and he wanted a son to become a high ranking military official because they're rich so they can just do that. Oscar joins the army and becomes Marie-Antoinette's personal guard. Her and childhood best friend Andre are very close through out the series (he supports her throughout the many scandals that she has to deal with because she works for the royal family) and at the end of the series it is revealed that they are in love, but they are both killed in the war before they can actually get together. The dying before they can be together might fall into the buried straights category but they relationship also has really queer energy because throughout the series it becomes apparent that Oscar usually Does Not Vibe with only the gender she assigned at birth. She sometimes refers to herself as a woman, sometimes refers to herself as a man, but her attitude is usually basically 'I'm a man, I'm a woman, I'm both, I'm neither, stop asking'. So I think they should count as straightbait because we find out that Oscar is nonbinary and Andre loves her no matter what her gender is (and then they die before they can get together).
jason grace and piper mclean:
So. Hera/Juno put a bunch of fake memories in Piper’s head of a months long relationship with Jason. However plot and stuff happens and they end up dating for real. Except no they didn’t. In the next series Apollo goes to them to ask for help and finds out they’ve broken up. Then there was a death prophecy that for once was actually fulfilled (RIP Jason). Finally at the end of ToA Piper was seen kissing a girl and your choice how to interpret that. Got together because a goddess shipped them. Broke up because they realised they were gay.
abbie mills and ichabod crane:
They both start out as main characters, working together since ep. 1. Next three seasons follow the regular m/f protagonist duo pattern: they need each other's help, there's chemistry going on, there are heartwrenching scenes and dramatic sacrifices, they learn they can only truly rely on each other - so the next step is to let them be together, right? Wrong. The next step is to let lt. Mills make a final sacrifice, which on top of killing the pairing insults her as a character - suddenly from the POV protagonist she started as she's demoted to secondary character who always was just there to be the main guy's support. There are some feelings acknowledged, but no confessions or promises exchanged during the final fleeting reunion. Three-seasons-worth of build-up and then she dies.
valkyrie and thor:
Like a lot of ships with a white man and a woman of color, their chemistry and history get shunted to the side by racist writers and fans who refuse to acknowledge them as anything other than friends.
buffy summers and spike:
Buffy's a vampire slayer and Spike's a vampire. Enemies to Lovers. Absolutely not intended by creators, creators treated it like a joke at first, then some of the writers/producers actively hated it even throughout their canon relationship, they don't technically get together in the end, also he dies (kind of. he's brought back in another show. and the comics. it's complicated). Very queercoded relationship despite being m/f - desire, euphoria, shame, slowburn, keeping it a secret, doesn't think anyone else will understand or accept them, wanting to change for the better.
peggy carter and daniel sousa:
She’s the best secret agent, he’s a hot as hell disabled war vet They get together, but also don’t because apparently Steve Rogers is a homewrecker Peggy moved on after losing Steve, got together with the amazing Daniel Sousa, and then got broken up because the Russos didn’t want Steve to be seen as being gay for Bucky
entrapta and hordak:
Heavily heavily heavily hinted/slow burn
good luck everybody! now go vote!
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Honestly I had no hope for any queer ship especially not byler but I didn't expect them to fuck up every straight ship except Jopper like holy shit.
Not to mention I hate how they went about every character, again the only ones who actually got a happy handing without shitting on their characters development are the Russia gang.
You could argue El/Jane is happy except for Max but her character feels written so wrong to me especially her dynamic with Mike (again idc about Byler this is not why I'm saying this) but it feels almost misogynistic (and amatonomartive) that the only way she can defeat the Great Big Bad is thanks to the influence of the men (who mostly treat her like shit might I add) in her life.
Don't get me started on Nancy and how they butchered her character just bcs of a love triangle that's been dead for ages, like I hate the way they went with Steve's side of the plot but I could still kinda get it bcs they've always put much emphasis on his feelings for Nancy. But her and Jonathan? The way they had her almost throw herself at Steve or at least string him along while Jonathan was in Cali (with her brother btw). You can write complex and interesting female characters without them playing the part of the almost cheater or the heartbreaker yk? Without shoving them into random romantic plot just for what? Steve Harrington eye candy scenes? We could've had that without them making moon eyes at eachother. It feels like a disservice to the whole initial monster Hunters trio's character developments tbh, Steve most of all. Bcs you can't tell me he's grown out of being an highschool asshole and then have him try to get with a girl already in a relationship buddy at least be coherent.
Anyway I won't touch the whole queerbaiting and almost burying your gays stuff bcs I don't have time rn
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Review/Reaction of IT Chapter Two
Let’s just start right off the bat and let me just say that Bill Hader better get a fucking award for his performance.
Alright. Here we go y’all. im trying to stay in order with what happened but so much happened in the movie that my brain is just all over the place so excuse me while i try to form words
UNDER THE CUT CONTAINS MAJOR SPOILERS
• first opening scene is a fucking LOT okay like i sobbed my eyes out and it was just not cool. adrian and his boyfriend? CUTE AF. Him getting brutally beat up and then killed by Pennywise while Don just watches? NOT CUTE AF
• Mike is a precious boy and I love him so. He cares about his friends so much holy shit. they all get mad at him for lying to them tho.But he only did it to protect them. Mike knew some SHIT(tm) our boy is so smart?? I’m glad they kept to his original storyline
• Older Bill gave himself so much shit this film and i just felt so bad. like we know it isnt ur fault okay?? We know you loved your brother, stop putting yourself down. also?? him becoming protective over dean? please stop my aching heart. 
• Jessica Chastain owns my whole heart and she can kick my ass anyday. She plays Bev so well and captures young bev’s personality so well. her scene with mrs kersh was very weird. i knew the second she ran naked in the hall i’d be seeing some weird fucking shit okay 
• Jay Ryan could kick me and I would personally thank him like?? wow what a man. He immediately recognizes bev when he first sees her and im just?? im happy. so many hidden new kids on the block reference and it had me fucking rolling in my grave
• JAMES FUCKING RANSONE MY DUDE OH LORD okay listen. he gives off young eddie’s panic and chaotic energy so perfectly i felt like i was watching him as an adult, who just never grew up. I think thats what he was going for honestly. He played eddie SO FUCKING WELL 
• I’m so sad about stan. THats all you need to know okay. I’ll talk about his letter later on in this. Stan deserved better. that’s all. 
• if you are not a fan of vomit you’re not gonna enjoy richie tozier. literally any time something bad happens hes just like ah shit here we go again *vomits* and honestly? that made me laugh. like hes just like oh shit something is happening let.. let me just.. no no its fine guys ill catch up.. EHBWFIJHDFSIJ no okay but bill hader stole the fucking show. his acting was phenomenal and,, again,, i’ll add more onto that later. 
• richie scares the shit out of dean. because he thinks hes pennywise. but can you blame him? the kid just. stared at him all creepy and shit. but its so funny. the losers make fun of him bc he doesnt know his own lines from his acts and richies just like “I dont write my own material” and eddies just like “I KNEW IT! I FUCKING KNEW IT” dead. goodbye.
• Young losers were still my favorite part honestly. Eddie kept bouncing that stupid ball in stan’s face in the clubhouse and i was waiting for him to get punched in the face tbh. That didn’t even seem like eddie, that was Jack’s energy bursting through the seams lmfao
• young eddie runs into a fucking box and shrieks and if that isn’t me idk ewhdfiajksjdoi 
• THE FUCKING. HAMMOCK. SCENE. okay listen to me. thats gay. hammocks are now gay. gays only. gay interacts only. the bickering between reddie had me in TEARS. eddie kept kicking at his face and just?? casually??? lays on him when richie wont move?? 
• stan’s fucking shower cap ehfdiujasdiosa and then richie being like “nobodys afraid of spiders stanley okay” and eddie slowly removes his because he cares what richie thinks more than spiders ok
• a flashback from after they defeated IT in the first move with reddie “eddie youve been gone for 24 hours your face is most likely on a milk carton by now” “shut up richie” 
• yong Richie has me weak af this whole movie, like always. just getting on Eddie’s case. HE PINES SO HARD OH Y GOD Like wow my sweet boy is so fucking in love ouch. which?? BRINGS ME TO MY NEXT POINT??
• THE ARCADE SCENE?? he checks out the kid standing next to him and tries to get him to hang out more and then the other kid tells him to stop being weird because he’s not gay, too, and then uses the F slur. richie was just so hurt. paul bunyun scene happens after that and hes just like “I just shit my pants” and i cried. 
• pennywise screaming “lets play truth or dare, you wouldnt pick truth! you dont want them to know your secret” gave off the same energy as eddie’s leper blowjob scene from the book. same energy. do with that as you will. 
• they had some flashbacks that included pennywise and im not sure if this was before or after they had defeated IT in the first movie but i interpreted it as after and if thats the case... hes supposed to be dead. but now thinking back on it, it was probably just more scenes before they put pennywise to rest for 27 years. 
• young richie went to the kissing bridge after that and we ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THERE. fucking.. r + e :((( although we don’t see him carving the E. but reddie is canon so suck toes antis
• stephen king pretty much being like “I know u and ur endings really do suck” to bill when he comes to buy his bike was so fucking funny. it almost felt like a self insert lmfao. ALSO HIM MAKING BILL PAY 300 BUCKS FOR THE BIKE BC HE KNEW HE COULD AFFORD IT? iconic. 
• richie and eddie opening the door to the dog had me laughing. pennywise was just mocking them at that point. they’d be such good dog dads and now im sad
• i was really confused because they added part of stan’s bar mitzvah?? like it wasn’t even the same from the first movie. like they should’ve just put the deleted scene in from ch. 1 and then added that part. thats one of my very few complaints. im slowly hiding them in here. 
• henry bowers was kinda irrelevant in this honestly but thank you eddie for stabbing him and richie for killing him for trying to kill mike yall heroes 
• BEVS BLOOD SCENE ?? CORRESPONDING WITH BENS BURIED ALIVE SCENE? poetic cinema. 10/10
• the big fight really disappointed me in all honesty. but i think thats because andy said he cut so much from there. i expect it to be better with the director’s cut
• eddie saving richie and then immediately being stabbed by pennywise’s claw? IM DEPRESSED.
• “Rich! rich, i did it! i think i killed him!” Our boy was so happy with himself :( 
• eddie’s last words WERE NOT “i fucked your mom”. he was talking to richie and you can hear them talking while the rest are preparing to end pennywise. so im hoping we get that as a deleted scene. 
• richie goes back to help finish pennywise but when he goes to check on eddie.. he’s dead. ://// and bev is like “richie, come on, honey.. im sorry” and richie does not want to believe him. he grabs and hugs eddie so tight i swear i could feel that hug from the audience. 
• another thing im disappointed in and am sliding in is some of the animations? Like. fucking weird. but okay. luckily i didn’t care too much.  
• THE SOB that richie lets out when he holds eddie really hurt my fucking soul jesus christ just kill me
• the losers try cheering him up after and like. thats their friend too but you can just totally tell he’s crying in a different type of grief. THAT WAS HIS FIRST FUCKING LOVE. 
• they all remember after and thats really important to me okay
• stan writes letters and its spoken outloud while the other losers get little montages of what theyre doing with their life after the battle. Richie goes back to the kissing bridge and recarves- YES RECARVES AND YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE THE E BEFORE HE DOES- he recarves the E and while doing it, stan’s voice says “be proud of who you are” and im fucking cry ibg okay
• in the end, i give this movie a 7/10 rating. although some of the animations were weird and some of the flashbacks had pennywise in it (like hes supposed to be currently dead but ok... maybe nightmares??) the actors were PHENOMENAL and the chemistry between older richie and older eddie made me so happy. my ship is canon. but im still sad about stan and eddies death. 
• ignoring canon in 3.. 2.. 1.. now 
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I mean, I know it's impossible and you don't need to tell me (like, seriously, I know it wouldn't happen and some of y'all —cof, cof, anti-shippers— trying to "trigger" me by saying the movie won't be the gay film I want it to be are just annoying), but how amazing it would be for IT Chapter 2 to have a Neibolt house scene that references the first movie, when IT pretends to be Eddie to separate Richie from the group, but this time is IT pretending to be Richie to separate Eddie from the group.
Like, all of them are walking around, looking for IT, and then Eddie hears Richie calling him from an empty, dark room. Of course, he gets mad, like "Richie, what the fuck are you doing? You wanna get us killed?", but Richie just keeps calling for him, whispering "Eds!" and walking backwards into the darkness, so Eddie decides to follow him.
"Richie, seriously, what the fuck..."
Then the door closes behind him, making him jump. Now he can't see anything. Just Richie's face, because he's close enough. So damn close.
"We've got to get out of..." Eddie tries to say, in panic.
"Beep-beep, Eds."
And then he kisses him. And Eddie should know by now this is a trick, this can't be happening. But he gives in anyway, throwing his arms around Richie's neck and deepening the kiss.
Their lips are still locked together when music starts playing. An organ that sounds almost creepy. The wedding march.
Eddie separates himself from Richie and opens his eyes, blinking a few times due the change of light. The dark room doesn't look like a dark room anymore. It has turned into a beautiful church, with a glass roof that lets the sun in and white roses everywhere. There's a priest at the end of the aisle and they're surrounded by people who stare tenderly at them, so happy to see them.
Eddie looks down and realizes he's wearing a tuxedo, just like Richie, who smiles at him and wriggles his eyebrows, offering him an arm. They intertwine their arms and start solemnly walking down the aisle. The rest of the Losers are sitting on the first row, practically in tears, including Stan.
"Dearly beloved," the priest starts, "we are gathered here today in sign of God, to join Richard Tozier and Edward Kaspbrak in holy marriage."
Everybody claps and Eddie looks at Richie, as if he was seeking for comfirmation of what's happening. Richie squeezes his arm and smiles.
"If anybody here knows any reason for these two..."
Then the door slams open. Everybody looks back at it and Eddie can't believe it. His mother is standing there, only she doesn't look like herself at all. There's dirt and blood all over her, like she was buried alive and made it out of her grave, and her skin is full of wounds and eruptions, like a victim of a terrible disease. Her arm seems to be a few rocks away from falling off her body, as it stretches towards Eddie, holding his aspirator.
"I know a reason!" She claims.
Everybody start muttering, confused, but the priest asks for silence and tells her to continue.
"Eddie hasn't taken his meds."
The audience can't even begin to freak out over the apparently shoking revelation, when room goes darker as grey clouds cover the sky. A thunder makes the floor shake and, suddenly, a powerful lightning falls right on the glass roof, making it explode.
Scared, as everybody screams, Eddie tries to hold Richie and take him away from where they might get hurt, but Richie had disappeared.
"You can fool me," a female voice comes from the other side of the altar, "but you can't fool Him. He knows everything."
It's Myra. Myra wearing the beautiful wedding dress she wore at their actual wedding. She slowly walks towards him and his mother does, too, still holding the aspirator. The wedding march starts playing again, but it sounds way more sinister. The Losers aren't there either.
The sky roars again and it starts raining. Well, not actual rain, not actual water. It's more like... a plague. Insects. Crickets. First just want, that falls at Eddie's feet and struggle to get on its own feet before start singing and hopping away. Then there are thousands of them, with their infernal sound, falling on the guests, on Eddie, who desperately tries to get them away from him. He can't breathe.
"You made Him angry, Eddie-bear," his mother say.
"He doesn't like the thoughts you've been having," Myra adds, now in front of him.
"You're very, very sick."
"And now I pronnounce you husband and wife," the priest announces, closing his bible.
"No... no!" Eddie cries.
"You may kiss the bride."
Myra starts leaning towards him, trying to hold him as he tries to get away, completely inmune to the plague that's falling over them. She opens her mouth more and more, to the point where is not natural anymore. There's no way a human can open their mouth that much.
"No... I don't want to!" He yells.
"You have to," his mother smiles.
"It's the only way to make God love you again," the priest says, his voice turning lower, demon-like, "It's the only way to make it stop. To get cured."
Then he sees it. At the back of Myra's throat, shinning, calling him. The deadlights.
Another lightning lights up the sky, and at its white, blinding presence, Eddie can see just a word. A word that starts with F. A word he's been hearing his whole life.
The Losers finding him in the same dark room, sitting on the floor with his hands on his eyes, rocking back and front. Someone kneels in front of him and gently takes his hands away from his face.
"Hey, Eds... what happened?"
It's Richie. Eddie can barely speak.
"I... I..."
"It's okay. IT's just playing games with your mind. Nothing is real. Let's go."
Richie puts his arm around Eddie and helps him get back on his feet, as the rest of the club walks out the room. They stand a little behind.
"Richie, you... did you... see something? Or heard? Do you know what IT was d..."
"Nah, we just found you like that. It must have been pretty fucked up, though."
Eddie sighs, relieved. His secret is safe.
But Richie lied. He knows well enough.
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WHERE sin BEGINS, is WHERE sin ENDS.
I was reading this article about this bishop who just died from "cancer", but allegedly raped 4 men & had a secret lover. He denied all the allegations, but he never spoke out about it. He simply said, "I am not the man, that they're portraying me to be on television." Didn't plead guilty or not guilty, he SETTLED out of court. Paid these boys millions.. I mean over 20 million in total.. just to keep their mouths shut. SICK. As fuck. He took them on trips, bought them cars, paid their tuition, all to keep them quiet. Now that he's gone. They're publishing a book called "Foursaken". All of this is sooo sad, and sooo disgusting. Because it's true. In the article from CNN, they placed an excerpt from a sermon he preached about homosexuality and lesbianism.. mainly his point was directed towards lesbianism and his strong hate for women because he feels they are the ones who turn men gay! It is insane. He says, "In a society where little boys are exposed to grubby, cursing, dirty, cigarette smoking, road construction worker women, is it any wonder they stop chasing women and start chasing men?" Who in the hell says that to validate why HOMOSEXUALITY is bad.. in the religious realm? Majority of preachers reference the Bible and the few scriptures HINTING that it is a "sin".. never a personal opinion. Especially one so personally driven, like this is something he has experienced hands on. You know? I'm just flabbergasted, because this man was filthy rich. A man of God, one who had over 25,000 members and sister churches everywhere. It's insane, how one can cover all that up with commas. He then never once mentions MEN being gay or how he thinks it's disgusting for a man to be feminine. NOT ONCE. He then ends it with, "God says you deserve death!" These allegations were brought about in 2010? His church collapsed, he went bankrupt, he got sick, lost a hell of a lot of weight, lost his hair. This is all just so intriguing to me. He defended all those changes with a joke, "You're only seeing different versions of me, Skinny Eddie, Big Eddie & Bald Eddie." He defended his weight loss with "I'm on a vegan diet." Literally, lying through his teeth. All religions are grounded by a theology.. meaning a motto of some sort which backs their religious practices/way of life. Most christian churches are bound by the prosperity theology or gospel; which states God rewards the faithful with wealth and health. It entails other aspects but that's the main one proposed by BLACK preachers. Partly because they thrive off the money their congregation pays to the church, in tithes, offerings, etc. And when you see a black man in high power as he was, with finances like he manifested, you began to worship whatever he says .. or does. Not much can deter you from being faithful to your church. He lost his health and his wealth..... he had lost God. He was no longer faithful to God. He lied.. he lied on God's name worst of all and God ripped everything he had from under him. People are defending him. They're feeling pity for him.. and his family. I disagree completely. If he was my father or husband or friend, I would have to own up to his irresponsibilities myself. And stand up against the justification behind his actions and inactions. A sin is only forgiven, if you ask for forgiveness, if you repent and seek change. He did none of that. It's absolutely sad and very disturbing to see other pastors defend his legacy after 30 years of living a lie .... preaching a lie .... incriminating others for sins and crimes he was guilty of hisself. I mean this man was hateful and defiant against homosexuals and did not miss a beat on telling everyone how UNGODLY it was.. almost every sermon. He let that sin devour him, he talked about it in the most public place because he could not openly speak about it in privacy or in comfort. it's crazy. He was preaching a sermon that empowered him to feel good about what he was doing. Unfortunately, he did not leave the sin behind on Earth... he buried it with him. Im just blown away... at the discretion behind preachers and their downfalls....... those who are called to preach Gods word. Are not excused from sin or the troubles of this world!!!! It drives me. The only person on a pedestal is God hisself. Sorry, I had to vent. It's just irate for this to be overlooked like it's nothing at all. For everyone to then go back to bashing and preaching against something, they supported and defended someone else doing, but fell ignorant to bc of an IMAGE ...
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