I do think we’re getting at least some escalation of devil’s minion in s3 btw. And I don’t think that’s even me being hopeful or optimistic I think it’s literally just logical.
I’ve seen people say oh, but devil’s minion happens in QOTD, and s3 is TVL; and firstly, they’ve definitely made it sound like some elements of queen of the damned are going to be present in s3. Secondly, I suspect season 3 is going to end with the lead up to Lestat’s San Francisco concert. So the whole season will be both Lestat backstory + the set up for the events of QOTD. And devil’s minion happens, guess what, before Lestat’s San Francisco concert. It would almost not make sense to not at least touch on it while the other story beats are culminating up to that moment. Like, Daniel and Armand are already present in the story (where they aren’t in the book in the modern day storyline), why would you not continue their storylines to the next logical step?
Also, I think you have to consider just how many new characters and storylines QOTD introduces and how daunting that can be to absorb if you’re unfamiliar. Waiting to do anything with devil’s minion until season 4 means that’s just one more new storyline to have to inject into a narrative already very crowded with exposition. It just doesn’t make a lot of sense to do that, and I suspect the writers are pretty aware of that.
And frankly like. What other storylines would Daniel and Armand be getting? Like how are either of their stories supposed to move forward without, y’know, each other? Are we supposed to expect all of season 3 just to be one big pause button on both their larger narratives? That seems very silly. Daniel at least has the journey of adjusting to vampirism, but Armand especially is like. His semi-redemption and character evolution comes from devil’s minion. That’s the only real next step for him.
And I mean. Look at Assad and Eric. I don’t think Rolin Jones could convince them to wait a whole other season for something to happen if he tried. I know, I know it’s easy to be like “oh but maybe it’s just actors being silly” but compare how open they’re being about it now and how much more tight lipped they were in between seasons one and two. It’s night and day. It is a very very different vibe. And apparently, Assad has been plenty excited about it this entire time, so he was actually somehow managing to keep his mouth shut before. But now maybe he doesn’t need to, because he knows season 3 will at least offer something in the way of that development.
I think it’s entirely possible we won’t necessarily see the full “culmination” of their relationship until season 4, but I do think season 3 will at least have development and escalating tensions that are undeniable. I think it’ll likely start out slow and ramp up as the season continues. I’m not going to panic if we don’t get much in the first few episodes or if it takes until episode five to see Daniel’s turning. That might be needed, honestly, in terms of giving Lestat his necessary focus. But I think more small pieces will begin to accumulate, will escalate to a place of higher tension by the mid season, and then the finale will include some type of reveal or emotional climax, setting things up going into season 4.
And you know what, it’s worth mentioning: things have happened faster on this show than I expected before! I did not expect Daniel to be turned at the end of season 2. I thought we probably had a whole other season to go before that happened. “Well they were afraid of cancellation” / “well Eric just wanted to be a vampire so badly” and will these things also not apply to season 3/Eric and Assad wanting devil’s minion?? Idk babes. I’m doing the math and it doesn’t seem that crazy to me
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Rum and Tumb ARE demons, but the Devil made them specifically to replace Cuphead and Mugman for him. The Devil did his best to make them look as much like the twins as possible (and he got pretty close, all things considering)!
Here's a reference of their base form colors, and all the notes of the small differences they have compared to the twins.
Cuphead and Mugman were the best, most efficient repossession men the Devil had ever had, so the Devil wanted to hire them full time (and of course, get their souls in the process), and after they refused, the Devil got a bit obsessed with the idea of having them anyway.
Rummer and Tumbler were the first and only attempt at making his own.
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Orchid: We CANNOT mess with the mortals or they'll turn into ash (or something), so don't do that!
Also Orchid: *subject of a massive portrait because she messed with the mortals*
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It's been said before but Dishonored really hit upon a wild and hilarious worldbuilding concept when they made the basic principles of the main fundamentalist-type religion "god is definitely real but he's EVIL and must be thwarted and resisted." Like they don't seem to believe in any "true" god in place of the Outsider? They don't seem to worship or talk about any other deity, and while they have the seven Strictures those don't seem to have been handed down by any higher power. I think it's actually a kind of galaxy-brained commentary on various forms of fundamentalist Christianity that are like, far more concerned with "influences of Satan!!!" than anything else, but I'm not sure whether that was intentional or not lol.
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