#turning bl novel

[messy-haired-bum]

Rereading Turning today (yes, all 1000+ chapters of it, sue me), and it strikes me how open-minded Yuder is? I'm not talking about the issues with Sunz (the one who caught him and tortured him in the previous game) although yeah, it's also significant, I'm talking about the first time he dreamt of Past!Kishiar.

Yuder dreamt of a conversation he never remembered he had with Past!Kishiar and instead of writing it off as a mere dream, he just immediately concluded that......his memory must be faulty?? That the dream is real and what he remembered is not???

No seriously, but what happened to him that can make him so decisively doubt his own mind like that???

(Also, how bad must he have felt during and after Kishiar's death to casually conclude that it is normal if his recollection of the event was wrong?)

Bro the first game broke my fucking heart I swear 😭😭😭

[lovefrombegonia]

Nathan: So...he killed you in this previous life that--

Kishiar: No no! Not a previous life-- more like a reset timeline that will never happen now.

Nathan : ...Yes, but it happened then, right? And he stabbed you to death??

Kishiar: It was more complicated than that--

Nathan: And you're still gonna be with him...

Kishiar: This is a nuanced tale--

Nathan: He assassinated you--

Kishiar: I probably did something bad--

Nathan: HE KILLED YOUR ASS!!

Kishiar: HE WAS OVULATING!!!

Yuder: I AM STANDING RIGHT HERE--!!

[birb-catto]

[cj-marj]

Why has it just dawned on me that I’m reading a fantasy novel? I’m on chapter 188 and I’ve been reading this novel for the past 2 months. 💀

[roseniji2704]

Cat yuder… 🥹

[kouraissant]

In the examination of a (love poem) name

On a name that was a love poem, On Yudrein Aile, On Eternity (Above) The Vine, Tennessee Williams / Chapter 445, Turning, 쿠유 / Dear [ ], Nick Lantz (2018) / Soft Human, Emery Allen / Handle with Care, Jodi Picoult / Headless John the Baptist Hitchhiking, C. T. Salazar / Maria, West Side Story (Below) Letters to Milena, Franz Kafka

[kishiar-la-orr]

personally speaking, there are 3 parts of kishiar la orr's character that makes me find him really fascinating.

first is how he is technically a troupe but a subversion of a troupe at the same time? male leads in romances, whether its het romance or a BL romance, are usually like. cold northern duke who is super strong, super smart and opens up to the main character very slowly because of the main character's kindness, blunt and at times rude. instead, we have kishiar — who is also a northern duke and super strong and super smart, but i'd argue between kishiar and yuder, the one who made the first move to further advance their connection is kishiar? as in, he extends his thoughts and feelings genuinely, expresses wanting to be close to yuder, which are all an olive branch yuder can accept, a sign of trust and (to a degree) vulnerability and real intent to form a connection.

yes, part of him plays into the common male lead troupes, but other parts of him honestly reads more like a female lead? he's the one more emotionally in touch, he's the socially savvy one, he's sunny and smiley. which is just fun, in my opinion, when compared to other BLs i've personally found over the years.

the second thing is my unending fascination with kishiar's complicated tango with mortality. being sickly from childhood, there must've been a sense of impending doom — especially when it's practically public secret among nobles that imperial family members usually die young because of vessel issues. kishiar was on super fast track to the same recorded fates those other people had. but then, in the prev. game, he survived! became healthy! only to not long after take two steps backwards as his health arguably got worse. sometimes i think being killed by yudrein in the 1st tl could be considered a mercy to 1st tl kishiar.

and in the 2nd tl, he went from sick to healthy — and that is it. i think with the blooming romance with yuder, it emphasizes the core characteristic of kishiar that is: he does everything for the people he loves, their future and happiness whether it's with or without him in the picture. ideally, of course it's with him. and in the 2nd tl, he's finally granted this. you can really tell when you see the prev. game flashbacks and go back to the present timeline that kishiar is just much more alive and not just in the physical sense — there is a drive and a sense of liveliness that wasn't there in all of their past life sections, in my opinion.

i just really get fascinated with character struggles with mortality, man. i think kishiar especially has a lot to offer in this department, there are so many things from canon that you can deconstruct or things not yet answered that you can headcanon — everything to play around and explore further about his character and its deep ties to death. even down to the way that he talks, to me, is due to his isolation because of the very vessel bursting issue that also foresaw his impending doom. like, he talks like a person who's alone a lot while growing up? the eloquence and all. it is so fun. naturally, this also includes his expertise with emotional processing and expression — i also think this can also be tied down to his intricate dance with mortality.

finally, the last layer is that kishiar, by all accounts, should be a gary stu — a male version of a mary sue character — and should maybe be boring to read about. he can do practically everything from magic, swordsmanship and aura, divine power to awakener ability. he is sociable and politically wise, able to play the 5D chess of nobles and high society and extract information from enemies and allies alike easily with his multi-layered words. he is smart, he is emotionally intelligent, he has a lot of strong allies, he is kind. but... he isn't boring to read about? not at all. his struggles may have passed, but they are struggles anyway. they contribute to the way i perceive him as a character and only cause me to be even more fascinated by him. and this very 'perfection' kuyu sets him up with — especially the being super strong and able to wield all the powers in their world like a goddamn avatar — is set up to be a major flaw: the very reason his vessel couldn't hold it for the majority of his life and in the 1st tl. everything just colors a very interesting picture of a character that i ended up beyond obsessed with.

[inahochi]

Started reading Turning (터닝) by 쿠유 few days ago and I just have to say that THOSE TWO ARE MY EVERYTHING 💛🖤

(I'm at 200+ chapters now but not even one chapter was boring IT SAYS EVERYTING)

I like how author doesn't forget the past timeline while focusing on the present one.

ML: Kishiar is so green flag, flirtarious to death, handsome, smart and calculating

HE HAS IT ALL 🥵

MC: Yuder is babe, with poker face most of the time but those little smiles will send you haha plus smart, strong and all

THEIR DYNAMIC IS SOMETHING ELSE TOO

Also there is manhwa on lezhin/ridibooks with pretty art 😳

ANW PLS READ IT !!!!

The novel is still ongoing with 1000+ chapters but JUST TRY IT IF NOTHING ELSE

[biggestbunderthemidnightsun]

FUUUCK THIS. KUYU WHAT THE HELL. I CRIED.

[messy-haired-bum]

Yuder is the type of guy who can't even be bothered to remember Kiolle's entire existence when Kiolle caused trouble to him weeks before, yet can remember the faces of anyone who dares to disrespect Kishiar even slightly and silently plot their downfalls even months later.

[lovefrombegonia]

I love that Nathan became so worried about Kishiar willing to even research forbidden books on heinous experiments, and all, if it could mean that he can either prevent or undo what he saw in his nightmares, that he just basically told Kishiar everything. He basically said: "get your man under control, he is driving me crazy!"

This interaction says so much about all these three characters:

It shows how much Nathan cares for Kishiar, sees him as his responsibility while respecting him as his noble lord. He cares enough to see that Kishiar is about to do some fucked up bullshit, with going all this forbidden magic books. He was like: sir, I respect you but wtf? He also knows Kishiar deeply enough to know that the only one who can make him like this, is Yuder. He trusts Kishiar's heart and judgement enough to trust Yuder. Not a 100% but he is getting by making his own judgement. He is also very protective of Kishiar, enough to make his own decisions regarding his safety, by deciding to share what Kishiar is doing, with Yuder.

It shows how reliable and loving Yuder is in the eyes of even someone as powerful and careful as Nathan, enough to be trusted with Kishiar's mental health. Yuder has shown again and again through his actions, to characters around him, that his fiercely loyal, and capable af. Nathan telling him about the books tells us how he already sees Yuder as a part of Kishiar's family. And when Yuder learnt of this, and decided to tell Kishiar EVERYTHING about their past lives, because he didn't want the man he loves the most, to suffer under this burden any further. Yuder is ready to face any consequence, even the anger and rejection from his loved ones, if it means he can take their pains away. So selfless, so loyal, and so deeply endearing Yuder is...I am just like...UGHH MY BOI... Let me give you all the hugs and kisses in the world!!

It shows just how deeply, pathetically, madly, insanely, devotedly IN LOVE Kishiar is with Yuder. It shows the depth he could go to protect the ones he loves. It shows how deeply and truly Kishiar loves. He is ready to go through forbidden texts, and destroy himself, his reputation, even go against his morality if it means he can save his loved ones. Kishiar is powerful, he is forgiving, he is considerate. He can tolerate great levels of pain on himself. But he can't and won't let you go scot free if you hurt his loved ones. He will beat his pains alone, suffering alone, hiding his pain even from the ones who want him to share his problems. And no matter how much he is losing his mind, even if he is not saying or doing the right thing (coz ofc it's not possible to be always right), he never stops being gentle with Yuder...ever... And that's so!!! OMG Kishiar is truly the man of your dreams!!

[birb-catto]

KishiYuder Early Relationship Progression

Yuder after smelling strong perfume on Kishiar: MANWH*RE

Yuder after meeting one of Kishiar's people who uses said perfume: ...Ok, false alarm

Yuder under Kishiar's constant flirting, in the name of "acting as diversion": WTF!!???

[hellenic1864]

Turning by Kuyu

okay. I acknowledge the fact that I wasn’t expecting much when I started reading Turning. Just out of desperation since the manhwa was still at early stages and I ended up on the novel. I was kinda expecting disappointed (bad experience with to novels) and was sceptical about the absolutely humongous amount of chapters.

Even as I started reading it, it felt a little boring and slow paced (mostly due to being used to Fast and Furious(tm) in bl romance), but I gradually started to enjoy how Kuyu-nim developed their characters. In all the instances of reading novels, one thing had remained the same for me: not being able to remember the side-characters. Obviously, this time it was different. Even the most insignificant character showed development as the story progressed, something which I really loved and am wholly invested in. And soon enough I found that I started to crave for even more chapters to read. Finished 1/4th of the tl in two days, three weeks to catch up. Not a moment passed when I felt the need to drop it due to bad plot OR bad to (kudos to the translators).

I almost couldn’t believe it was omegaverse. The fetishisation of the a/b/o trope in many novels wasn’t present here. Then comes the world building. Like TOTCF, this novel has mages, swordsmasters and divine power users, along with the author’s personal inclusion of ‘awakeners’, all of which Kuyu-nim has masterfully balanced and structured.

That aside, the political intrigue in this novel has been a major highlight, since the mc’s and ml’s shenanigans in this sphere (especially ml’s) has been an absolute delight. While in the power sphere, the mc’s fights are engaging.

I could rant all day, but to all those who are apprehensive of starting reading this, lemme tell you I am 89% sure it’ll get famous when the manhwa catches up. Early readers gonna get the perks. Please, please read this novel. Show all your support, cuz in my humble opinion, I have stumbled upon a masterpiece I place right beside Little Mushroom in standards and way above mdzs, svsss and maybe even tgcf in comparison

[cj-marj]

THEY FINALLY KISSED! IT ONLY TOOK ME TWO MONTHS AND 200 CHAPTERS TO GET HERE! 😭

[roseniji2704]

+1 like/reblog = the sooner he gets adopted 🥹🥹🥹

I’m sorry I’m feeling guilty after drawing this 😭😭😭 I should draw the next part soon AEUGGHH…

My wet little meow meow….little yuder….my son…. 🥹🥹🥹

[kouraissant]

The Sun is dead and love is an unbearable thing (On Yudrein Aile & Grief)

(Above) KOURAISSANT / (Aeschylus: The Oresteia, Aeschylus & The Oresteia: Agamemnon, The Libation Bearers, The Eumenides, Anne Carson) / Things Haunt, Joshua Jennifer Espinoza / Chapter 514, Turning, 쿠유 / Morning in the Burned House, Margaret Atwood / The opposite of a haunting is something very lonely, heavensghost / A Rosario Castellanos Reader:  ‘Memorandum on Tlatelolco’, tr. Maureen Ahern / Sue Zhao / The Song of Achilles, Madeline Miller / The Empress Yamato Hime, tr. Kenneth Rexroth / Spring and All, Cathy Park Hong / UNDER A STAR CALLED SUN / there is no absolution for the fallen, only the dying, p.d / Chapter 1, Turning, 쿠유 / Lesbos (From Ariel), Sylvia Plath

(Below) The Haunting of Bly Manor (2020), dir. Mike Flanagan / 6CHO1