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Rosamund Pike as Moiraine Damodred Sedai bts, wheel of time season 3

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Shohreh’s core

How could one not love this woman ?

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Behind the scenes (BTS) of Winternight/Two Rivers battle

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If you ask me lan sounded like he was  whispering some freaky shit and promises for later. When he said “oh you actually tried to kill me”

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Season 2: canon or queercatching?

I see many GO cast and crew talking about a romance in season 2 and many people seem to take that as a confirmation that the Ineffable Husbands will be confrimed canon in season 2. But will they? Looking at the past I think we should be careful with our excitment. Because this could be queercatching instead of actual queer reprsentation.

To those of you unfamilar with the term, I can highly recommend you to watch this glorious video by Rowan Ellis.

Short summary: Queercatching is confirming a character as queer outside the show without ever making it explicit inside the show. So why I am so pessimistic? Neil already wrote a beautiful queer show, called the Sandman, didn’t he? Yeah, and this is already the first problem

1. Network

It does matter what Network you are writing for, as “beautiful” shown by Disney over the last couple of years. Netflix is really open to LGBTQ topics in their shows that are not aiming at a major audience. But they are also quick to cancel those shows again, and also netflix struggles to include queer characters in their major shows. The witcher, Stranger Things, Bridgerton... most of this shows have none or only one well written out and proud queer person among the main cast.

Now let us look at Prime. The wheel of time, The rings of power. Zero so far in LOTR, one queer side character in TWOT. Not a good starting point for making Ineffable husbands canon. Because let not fool you. GO is a show aimed at a mass market. A mass market that already had a breakdown over Sandman... at Netflix... not aimed at a mass market.

I can really recommend everyone to read the BTS book of the director of Shadowhunters, it is a beautiful inside in what rules the showrunners have to follow. Showrunners can not just go and make the main lead gay. Look at Velma f.e.

2. Advertisment

I saw people saying: But the show is promoted by the romantic relationship between the leads. So it must be explicit in the show.

Nope.

Promo has nothing NOTHING to do with the actual show. Social media campaigns are not run by the writers or showrunners, but by the network, giving the promo material to social media managers who also have not watched the show yet.

Look at the examples above.

Or the Venom Rom Com trailer for movie 1. Yeah, Venom and Eddie are dating and married. But at this point no one knew there would be a love confession in movie 2. This was just pure bait.

And yup, we now have the heart photo for our fav Demon/Angle duo.

But this just promo. Promo has nothing to do with the actual show. Promo can be accidentally or deliberately misleading. Yeah their wings are heartshaped, I see that, you see that... but is it confirmed? By anyone from the show? Has Neil said the wings are supposed to be hearts? Nope. Maybe he can’t, but I am actually really sure he won’t. Because this is what we are reading into it, not necessarily what is actually supposed to be here. Remeber: Gender reveal: blue

But Neil said they love eachother? 

I hear you say. Well, yeah but the whole quote is this:

They love eachother, they are not necessarily “in love” with each other. Also Neil really does support a QPR reading of them. This is also queer, of course, no question on that. But that would it make easier for Neil to claim they love eachother, without showing it explicit inside the show

But why would he do that?!

Well because, as he often has said, this is not his story. He shares this story with TP. He often said he does this show to honor TP, to honor his ideas. With sandman he did whatever he wanted, because it was queer and diverse all along. BUt with GO he is more careful. He will not do drastic changes, but leave the romantic relationship subtext and only epxlicit outside the show.

Let us look at other examples here:

F.e. the poly relationship in Levegere. It was confirmed by the showrunner that the OT3 is canon inside the show:

But it was never shown explicit. Not even in the soft reboot this year.And this show is produced by IMBD TV und runs of Amazon Freeve. So what a showrunner is saying on social media on what is actually happening inside a show does not necessarily has to be the same

Or how to train your dragon also has a gay character. Did you knew that or did you missed it like everyone else? It was even stated in the show. You don’t believe me: “This is why I never married. This and another reason” There is it stated that he canon gay inside the movie.

So what am I saying? That Neil is just bsaiting the fans, that Neil is bad at LGBTQ representation? No, I am saying that an explicit love story between Azi and Crowley is maybe not the story Neil wants to tell.

he is aware these two love eachother and he will never split them up. And he is aware that those are two non human genderless beings but that doesn’t change the fact that until now we have no real hint that they will be explicit queer in season 2.

But he said there will be a romance? Yeah, but he didn’t said between whom, so be careful with statement like that

Thats all I want to say with that post, be careful with your excitment.

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Natasha O'Keeffe as Lanfear behind the scenes, Wheel of Time Season 3

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Rosamund Pike as Moiraine Damodred Sedai in Wheel of Time Season 3 Behind the Scenes

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Rosamund Pike as Moiraine Damodred Sedai Behind the Scenes for Wheel of Time Season 3

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Shohreh Aghdashloo as Elaida do avriny a'roihan Sedai Behind the Scenes for Wheel of Time Season 3

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Kate Fleetwood as Liandrin Guirale Sedai bts, wheel of time season 3

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Shohreh Aghdashloo as Elaida do avriny a'roihan Sedai Behind the Scenes for Wheel of Time Season 3

My queen since Expanse and now

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Natasha O'Keeffe as Lanfear bts, Wheel of Time Season 3

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Natasha O'Keeffe and Nuno Lopos, Lanfear and Rahvin, Behind the Scenes for Wheel of Time Season 3

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Natasha O'Keeffe as Lanfear behind the scenes, Wheel of Time Season 3

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Natasha O'Keeffe for https://www.5elevenmag.com/post/natasha-o-keeffe interview where she talks a bit about Wheel of Time:

You play Lanfear in The Wheel of Time - a character who can influence others through their dreams. How do you view the importance of dreams? Do they feed into your creative process? Do you ever dream about the characters you play?

O'Keeffe: "I have no doubt that a lot of creative processing happens while wrapped in a duvet. Jordan’s creation of Lanfear and her ability to dream walk is rather clever. She mainly torments people in their dreams. Lovely. I can’t recall a time where I’ve dreamt of the characters I have played. That sounds interesting to me though."

Lanfear exists within a rich and sprawling mythology. How much background research do you think actors should do?

O'Keeffe: "I had to delve into The Wheel of Time research as soon as I got the role, as admittedly, I had never heard of the books. I’m not a fantasy enthusiast really, and I was completely overwhelmed by the depth and complexity of the worlds in Robert Jordan's books. One of the trickiest aspects at the start was remembering the alien-sounding names and places. But pretty quickly, I picked it up. We had fantastic support from the showrunner, Rafe, who is so knowledgeable about the books, so it was useful to pick his brains from time to time. Honestly, I finished watching season three and felt I was still learning about what was going on!"

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Madeline Madden as Egwene Al'Vere behind the scenes from Sharon Gilham on Instagram for Wheel of Time Season 3