#vulcan: language

[woman-of-many-fandoms]

I'm convinced the reason so many Vulcan's say fascinating and logical is because in their language they would have 10+ words to describe something but they all translate to fascinating and logical.

[jennelikejennay]

Speculative Reconstructions of the Vulcan Language

The Vulcan language is, to use a technical linguistic term, clunky as hell. 

If you've used it at all, you've probably noticed. The pronouns are a nightmare; verbs are simplistic and not all forms are given; everything’s a compound even if it has no business being; and a lot of words we need simply don’t exist. The creation of the language began as gibberish made up to fit how the actors’ mouths were already moving and it shows.

So I've been going through extant Vulcan phrases, looking for alternatives. You see, Vulcan was created grammatically after many Vulcan phrases were canonical, meaning not all phrases fit with the grammar we're given. You’ll see this in formalized phrases from ceremonies or as part of etiquette—stuff that simply doesn’t translate according to the rules we have.

I explain this by saying those phrases use an archaic or regional dialect. The stuff Vulcans are willing to share with us makes up the VLD and the grammar lessons. That doesn’t mean that’s how they actually talk. They very well might often use archaic or regional terms they don’t consider part of the standardized form of the language. 

This is especially true when, for instance, Spock breaks into Vulcan at a time of intense feeling. He isn’t going to speak in proper Vulcan he learned in school: he may well pull from the language of poets or from secret Vulcan profanity they won’t put in the dictionary.

I could go further and say: the Surakian linguistic reform that attempted to standardize the language and regularize forms in use (which can explain the over-simplicity of the grammar and general lack of irregular verbs) never took hold as well as they pretend it did. How Vulcans actually speak is much messier. Uhura probably goes on regular rants about this.

As a person who is trying to use Vulcan rather than simply analyze it, I’ve given myself permission to make some of my own changes. However, I don’t currently feel comfortable just making things up. This language is in use by a lot of people and any creations I invent will be incomprehensible to any other Vulcan language user. Thus I mine the corpus of existing Vulcan for forms I might use in novel ways to make the language easier and more graceful.

So, here we go: I’m going to slice and dice the Vulcan language looking for useful grammar, thus angering everyone who already uses the language and being completely irrelevant to anybody who doesn’t. But maybe there are five people out there who will find this stuff interesting or even useful.

to be continued...

[agent-troi]

linguistics is fun:

- from the latest mensa bulletin

- from the novel spock’s world by @dduane

[eldar-of-zemlya]

What can be better than Jim speaking Vulcan? Jim speaking dirty in Vulcan.

You can find the uncropped version here.

[bumblingbabooshka]

I think it would be funny if there was a large age gap between Tuvok and T'Pel's first kid and the rest of them. Like, what do you mean I'm an older brother now? I'm 35 years old.

[mamawasatesttube]

so in postcrisis, clark learns kryptonian bc first jor-el's ghost from his ship and then the eradicator both kinda beam it into his head and all, right. what are the odds that kara shows up and then after the shock of it all wears off she has a serious giggle because yes, her grown up little baby cousin is fluent, but he has the speech patterns and taste in idioms etc of a grandpa.

[odva-vuhlkansu]

Been experimenting with different brushes

[bendersmind]

A Lucifer Headcanon

So not Ghost but kinda; I've always headcanoned Lucifer having a limp from the fall. Much like Hephestus being tossed off Olympus by Zeus he sustained permanant damage to his legs; in Lucifer's case the left. It's why he would carry a cane and in this case always on his right (you use a cane on the opposite side of the injury).

It's a nice little tie to some of Hephestus' more "satanic" traits. Also there was likely some Vulcan (same guy kinda, probably a much older deity who was adjusted by the Romans; can you tell I love the classics?) bits in there.

Anyway, it also explains why when anybody asks me who my favorite Greek God is I answer Hephestus. And Lucifer is my favorite biblical character(not really honestly because the modern conception of Lucifer is MOSTLY bible fandom inventions).

Thank you for attending my TED talk.

[schn-tgai-saavik]

If Saavik isn't Spock's adopted daughter, then why does the Vulcan Language Dictionary has this entry:

t'kam'la: cherished student

a student who is cherished as a daughter or son [source:Star Trek: Department of Temporal Investigations: Forgotten History]

[mo-ok]

[opens-up-4-nobody]

Charlie Kelly from Always Sunny is my favorite representation of dyslexia in anything ever. Specifically because everyone's frustration when his dyslexia gets in their way feels very true to my frustration when my dyslexia gets in my way. I like watching people get mad at dyslexia lol

[spiders-notagain]

Ive seen a few things along the lines of Vulcans meeting 'Country Hick Humans' and not understanding their accent and slang but Id like to see the reverse.

Vulcans are so proper and clear in their diction and speech that whenever a non-native Golic speaker hears a 'Country Hick Vulcan' or just any Vulcan with a super heavy accent they cant understand them because they sound so different to every other Vulcan theyve heard

[jennelikejennay]

Working on some calligraphy lately. This is kind of a messy job; I'm working on memorizing the letters and making the shapes more fluidly without having to stop and stare at the chart. So there are a couple mistakes, me running out of space at the bottom of the page, one point when I changed the text a little to fit it, etc.

It's a combination of two quotes from Surak and one from Michael Burnham.

Pulau na'vathular k'nuhk. Nar-tor pulaya s'au k'ka'es, k'el'ru tun-bosh. Tal’uh ish-su vi saudau dan-irak kwi’tu eh pula’uh na’ish-veh.

Reach out to others courteously. Accept their reaching in the same way, with careful hands. Find the person who is farthest from you and reach for them.

I badly need a new brush pen, one that's a little firmer so I can make a fine line without my hands shaking. But it still looks pretty good if you're not looking too closely.

[disease-danger-darkness-silence]

I'm dying y'all.

Credit: T'Kay, Vulcartist. And a breakdown of the various ways she makes money off of doing stuff like this. You should pay her, she's super awesome!

I want this TATTOED ON MY ASS.

[pinkgrapefloyd]

not me writing an entire k/s fic full of chess metaphors only to find out MONTHS later that the english term is castling and not rochade. i thought we were all using the persian term... like a dumbass... 😭

[urghblergh]

Halloween. Spock is confused. :D

You married a Vulcan???????????? :o

These ones feel kind of random and weird. Idk. 😅🫶🌌

reference pics ✨

@senshistock

this picture I found on pinterest 😅