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Rewatching The Rapture

Welcome to “It’s Not Like He Boiled *Her* Arm, Jeez: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

Up today, s4e20: The Rapture.

Cas appears to Dean in a (lovely, peaceful) dream and gives him a note asking him to meet him at a warehouse. When the boys show up at the warehouse, something angelic has clearly gone down, and they find Cas—but not. It’s Jimmy Novak, the man Cas was using as a vessel. Cas is mysteriously back in heaven. After a good deal of objection and argument from the boys, Jimmy returns home to his family (who think he walked out and disappeared on them a year ago, probably as part of a psychotic break). We see several flashbacks of Jimmy when Cas first began to speak to him, as well as Jimmy’s tortured attempt to rejoin his family. Meanwhile, demons are up to shit, threatening Jimmy and his family. When Cas returns to find Jimmy wounded, he possesses Jimmy’s daughter Claire instead. Cas assures Jimmy that he has done well and will be rewarded in heaven, but Jimmy insists that Cas not subject Claire to the rigors and pains of possession, and Cas agrees to possess Jimmy once again. Cas then reveals to Dean that his trip to heaven has cured him of his doubts and that he serves heaven… not Dean. The boys return to Bobby’s, being all fraught with one another about Sam’s recent confession to Dean that he’s been drinking demon blood. Bobby and Dean trick Sam into the panic room and lock him in, hoping to force him to detox from the blood.

Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

[and we begin:]

Lor:

omg. He deserves to sit by a quiet lake and fish

Mace:

Misha looks so young and gorgeous

Lor:

he DOES

Lor:

the way you know IMMEDIATELY it's not Cas

Mace:

is he…doing a higher-than-his-real-voice voice?

Mace:

or has his voice lowered a bit with age, I wonder

Lor:

yeah I'm not sure. he is for sure doing a higher than Cas voice

Lor:

aw Dean doesn't like that Cas isn't in there anymore. like not just that he doesn't know where Cas is, but like, that is supposed to be Cas and it's NOT

Mace:

YEP

Mace:

I wonder, if Cas never returned at this point, would Dean and Jimmy have gotten together?

Lor:

naah

Lor:

he's too... vanilla

Mace:

but he’s also HOT

Lor:

that IS true

Mace:

and Cas isn’t exactly spicy

Lor:

he WOULD have a lot of fun undoing that aaaaall the way up tie

Lor:

Cas's Dom brow begs to differ

Mace:

may i remind you that those eyebrows belong, in fact, to Jimmy

Lor:

but he doesn't DEPLOY them

Mace:

oookay

Lor:

omg he's just little

Mace:

Oh Sammy

Mace:

we gots to get you off the juice, man

Lor:

right?

Lor:

"was it a refreshing Coke?" Dean, you little shit, I love you

Mace:

snork

Mace:

HANDS

Lor:

YES

Lor:

oooh, I forgot Jimmy cooks. maybe they WOULD get together

Lor:

but he'd have to stop putting his arm in boiling water. Dean's little caretaker heart couldn't take it

Mace:

okay, i relent. Dom Cas just made Jimmy boil his own fucking hand

Lor:

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

Lor:

MACE

Lor:

we just flipflopped

Mace:

oh gross. HER again

Mace:

WE DID

Lor:

ug Anna

Mace:

well, no, actually. I never stopped liking the idea of Dean and Jimmy

Mace:

Jimmy Dean sausage, baby

Lor:

HAHAHAHAHAHA omg dude

Mace:

(oh I just grossed myself out. apologies)

Lor:

(lololololol)

Lor:

oh Jimmy you're gonna be in so much trouble

Mace:

he is SO pretty

Lor:

omg LOOKIT him just lounged there in his t-shirt

Mace:

YAS

Lor:

I mean, if he took the pills, he'd still hear Cas....

Mace:

omg what an idiot. don’t leave him! who tf cares if he takes meds HE’S FLIPPING HOT

Lor:

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

Lor:

and he's not dangerous?

Mace:

well, a little dangerous would be okay...

Lor:

lol

Mace:

ooof that closeup of his LIPS

Lor:

it's like he's all INNOCENT

Lor:

omg the HEAD TILT

Mace:

YES

Mace:

“like what?” like boning? I’d be ready for boning

Lor:

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

Lor:

Amelia kind of annoys me

Mace:

oh LOOKIT HIM with the daughter

Mace:

yeah me too

Mace:

they all drink milk SO WHOLESOME

Lor:

I get her need to protect herself and especially Claire, but her lack of compassion with her husband who she thinks is having a mental break makes me nuts

Lor:

RIGHT?

Mace:

omg the tears in his eyes HE IS SO GOOD

Mace:

YEP

Lor:

omg the way his voice breaks when he says he's not gonna say grace

Mace:

YES

Mace:

Oh Jimmy

Lor:

right?

Lor:

feeling kinda stupid now, AREN'T WE, Amelia?

Mace:

look, Amelia, THAT’s how you support your spouse

Lor:

LOLOLOL

Lor:

"I'm sorry we were" poor Dean just wants to keep people out of this shit

Mace:

yeah

Lor:

jeez Sammy

Mace:

he’s got the DTs leave him be

Lor:

oh fine

Lor:

oh Sammy

Mace:

right? poor tiger

Lor:

Amelia's not here anymore

Mace:

snork

Lor:

heckle and jeckle lol

Mace:

snork!

Mace:

omg Dean’s face when Jimmy gets shot

Lor:

right?

Mace:

yeeeah, they SO wouldn’t get together…

Lor:

picture the look I am giving you

Mace:

aw, loving adoration. thanks, friend.

Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Mace:

yes, I AM so smart and pretty

Mace:

omg Sammy

Lor:

you ARE

Lor:

ooof Sam

Lor:

and Dean's face

Mace:

YES

Lor:

and Cas!Claire all with the judgement

Mace:

YEP

Mace:

Misha is SO GOOD

Lor:

RIGHT?

Lor:

there are individual performances of all three of them that were absolutely emmy worthy

Mace:

Dean’s all “hello, boyfriend."

Mace:

YES

Lor:

YEP

Lor:

"and I certainly don't serve you"

Mace:

ooooh playing hard to get

Mace:

SMART

Lor:

whatever you gotta tell yourself, hon

Lor:

HAAAHAHAHA

Lor:

oh man, Dean's in a snit. brother's an addict, boyfriend's pretending he doesn't care

Mace:

Sammy. Read the car. Dean has other troubles right now. Boyfriend is playing hard to get.

Lor:

"mostly I'm just tired, man." oooof

Lor:

LOL

Mace:

yeah

Mace:

“shag ass"

Lor:

RIGHT?

Mace:

I ADORE that expression

Lor:

YES

Mace:

BOBBY NO

Mace:

At least put me in there with him, dude

Lor:

oooooo Dean and Bobby setting him up offscreen

Lor:

HA!

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Jump the Shark

Welcome to “Adam is the New Dawn Summers: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

Up today, s4e19: Jump the Shark

The boys answer a call on their dad’s old cell phone, and the caller claims to be John’s son. FRAUGHT. They go to meet him, Sam ready to see what’s what, Dean *certain* that this is some monster laying a trap. But all signs point to Adam really being John’s son and therefore the boys’ younger half brother. Adam’s mother has disappeared, and while Sam and Dean try to find out what happened to her, the three brothers have all manner of moments of strife and snipe and hurt and grump. (Dean is especially grump.) Turns out, whoops, that Adam IS a monster (a ghoul) laying a trap, but the ghoul has taken the form of the real Adam, who is very dead but was also very much Sam and Dean’s brother. Ooof.

Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

Lor:

oh fuck off, John

jeez, Dean

Mace:

sammy brushing his teeth is hot don't ask me why i don’t make the rules

Lor:

"but I'm hungry now" me and Dean are the saaaaame person

LOL it is adorable

Mace:

HA

Lor:

omg Sam also has mouthwash

Mace:

YAS

Lor:

our poor boys

Mace:

yeah

dean is PISSED

Lor:

yep

and underneath his anger iceburg is a whoooole lot of hurt

Mace:

yeah

don't just throw the silverware on the floor, Dean, you’re better than that

Lor:

right?

I will forgive him a lot right now, but still

Mace:

poor Adam

Lor:

yeah

"a car fell on him" DEAN

Mace:

“a car fell on him”

you’re being a turd

Lor, slap him upside real quick

Lor:

yep. we've crossed over into "no pie for you"

nah he enjoys that. and then I get all....

Mace:

yeah right, you would never

Lor:

yeah, I wouldn't. not enough that he'd feel it

Mace:

i meant deprive him of pie

Lor:

oh that.

I meeeean. maybe for a minute or two

what diner has real silver on the table?

Mace:

Lor. we just watched Dean switch them out and throw the diner’s stuff on the floor

get your head in the game

Lor:

oh yeah! I was... distracted

oh Dean, honey

Mace:

oh man, Dean. poor thing.

 his head is near asploding

Lor:

yep

and his heart

Mace:

admit it, Dean, your dad was a DICK

Lor:

as if he could hate John more AND dammit he'd thought the man had run out of ways to hurt him

YEP

oh DEAN. he needs a hug. maybe he should pray to Cas

Mace:

that’s the problem - i don’t think he does hate john and he really needs to

Lor:

well not enough anyway

Mace:

he hates himself for not being a better son instead of blaming john for being a shit father

Lor:

sloppy, John, getting your pic in the paper. terrible hunter

oooof YEP

Mace:

so this is going right into the I Must Be a Shitty Son because He Loved This Kid More

Lor:

ooooof

see, he needs pie

lololol Dean

stop throwing scissors!

Mace:

omg the spazzing

Lor:

(course, maybe he's doing it on purpose to protect Sammy from having to go down there)

Mace:

(maybe)

Lor:

(I can never decide which I think it is)

Mace:

EWEWEW

Lor:

ick

oooo you clean that gun, Dean, you clean it good

Mace:

HA

Lor:

I mean. Dean is

just not for a JOB

Mace:

yeah

oh Sam

always steps up with the logic

Jesus, Dean, sitting as far away as he can

Lor:

"nobody just says okay"

YEP

Mace:

Dean. It’s not HIS fault.

Lor:

nope

Dean is SUCH a whirl of emotions

Lor:

omg both of them yelling "no" at little brother

Mace:

YES

“welcome to the family”

AHAHAHA

poor Sammy

Lor:

poor Sammy. welcome to being the middle kid, Sam

Mace:

Somehow he’s always been the middle kid

Lor:

HA!

YES

(do you remember how this goes?)

Mace:

(i do not)

Lor:

(oh HO. very good, then)

Mace:

(well, I mean, Adam ends up as Michael, if that’s what you mean)

Lor:

(that is not what I mean)

Mace:

I love that little bracelet on Sam’s wrist

Lor:

it COULD have been over if the writers hadn't dropped the ball all the way to the center  of the earth at the end

YES

Mace:

YUP

Lor:

nnnnnggggg Dean crouching by the car

Mace:

is he wearing…italian boots?

Lor:

he is wearing SOME kind of very special boots that he did NOT buy at Macy's, that's for sure

pets him

this is why you never park over top of shit

Mace:

Ha!

Lor:

lol poor Bobby. "MORE of you snot nosed Winchesters to look after? I'm gonna resurrect your son of bitch father so I can shoot him myself"

Mace:

AHAHAHA YES

oh WAIT I THINK I REMEMBER NOW WHAT HAPPENS

OOOOOO

Lor:

LOL

Mace:

Dean is STRUGGLING with stuff

Lor:

he REALLY is

Mace:

wants to hate the kid but also wants to protect him

Lor:

YEP

Mace:

Big Brother pull is strong with this one

Lor:

yep

oh Sam

Mace:

“i think it’s too late for us"

oh DEAN WINCHESTER

they are beautiful boys, but DAMN they are messed up

Lor:

they REALLY are

"well then I'll look again"

Mace:

stubborn

Lor:

his little hufflepuff heart can't handle not caretaking his little brother

Mace:

ha!

“sloppy Joe” DEAN WINCHESTER NO

Lor:

lol I love that he makes his quips when there's no one to hear them though

Mace:

I prefer when he says “son of a bitch"

Lor:

ditto

oooof Dean

Mace:

yeah

oh he’s got his thinking cap on

Lor:

lol

EW

Mace:

agreed

EWEWEW

STOP CUTTING MY STRINGBEAN

Lor:

RIGHT?

ooof Dean you can stop now

Mace:

Jesus, Dean.

Lor:

you probably wanna raise them higher than that too Sam

Mace:

yeah

Lor:

"Adam's in a better place" not for looooong

Mace:

i don’t remember how he comes back

is it because dean says no to michael?

Lor:

the angels bring him back when Dean says no, yeah

Mace:

stop insulting sammy, dean

Lor:

"you take it any way you want" ooooooof

The Fraught Brothers Ride Again

Mace:

cripes, boys

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Good God, Y'All

Welcome to “But Does One Simply Drive an Impala into Mordor?: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

Up today, s5e2: Good God, Y’All.

The boys are worried about Bobby, who has lost the use of his legs and won’t speak. Dean shows off an x-ray of their very pretty carved ribs just before Cas calls Sam to find out where they are because, oh right, the pretty ribs mean they’re hidden from *all* angels, even pocket angel. Cas reveals that he’s cut off from Heaven and thus can’t heal Bobby (who has something to say about that—yay! He’s talking!) because then they couldn’t save healing him for some more dramatic time later on. Cas wants Dean’s samulet because it supposedly glows hot in the presence of orcs God. Dean doesn’t want to give it up, but Cas Dom-Voices him into it. Rufus calls Bobby for help in a town overrun by demons. The boys go to check it out, running into Ellen and Jo, who are hunting together now. Seems like everyone in this town thinks everyone else is a demon. Turns out no one is. The first of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, War, has arrived, and he’s making different groups of townsfolk think the other groups are possessed. Sam and Dean each figure this out independently because they are both smarties. They cut War’s ring from his finger, vanquishing him and gaining a piece of jewelry that, huh, seems like maybe it might be important later. At the end of the episode, Dean confesses that he's not sure he can trust Sam anymore, and they decide to go their separate ways. Uh-huh.

Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

Mace:

oh, you’re a sword, DeanDean, don’t fight it

Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

Lor:

oh good. Jo.

Mace:

UGH

Mace:

BACK RUB

Mace:

I bet Dean gives extremely good back rubs

Lor:

LOL

Lor:

RIGHT?

Lor:

they're xrays, Sam. says that right there

Mace:

god, even their flipping ribs are pretty now

Mace:

HAHAHAHAHA OMG

Lor:

RIGHT?

Lor:

OMG LOOKIT HIM STRIDING

Mace:

omg is this the scene where Misha falls to the floor to disappear?

Mace:

YES

Lor:

I think it is!

Lor:

"Say again."

Mace:

remind me what’s wrong with Bobby?

Mace:

“I heard that” HAHAHA

Lor:

he's paralyzed from the waist down but I kinda forget why already? (Ed: We remembered eventually.)

Mace:

cripes, Cas is extra gorgeous here

Lor:

LOL

Mace:

HAHAHA

Lor:

oh Cas, oh honey, you're so earnest, baby

Mace:

HE’S NOT ON ANY FLATBREAD

Mace:

HAHAHAHA

Lor:

"no he's not on any flatbread"

Lor:

HAHAHA

Lor:

CHUCKLES

Mace:

“literally at the end of days” oh Dean, you’ve got, like 10 years left at least

Mace:

YES

Lor:

I love that Dean is SO anti-God all through but later when he actually meets him and confirms that he does not in fact care, it wrecks him so much

Lor:

LOL

Mace:

YEP

Mace:

get a little closer there, Cas

Lor:

RIGHT?

Lor:

he's SO STERN i cannot

Mace:

YES

Lor:

OMG that LOOK when he turns to Dean

Mace:

YES

Mace:

“NO”… “alright I guess”

Mace:

that didn’t take long

Lor:

"may I borrow it?" "NO" *VOICE* "Dean, give it to me" *dean does*

DOM VOICE

Mace:

that’s not exactly how you play hard to get Dean

Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

Mace:

“now I feel naked” “I’ll be in touch” NICE

Lor:

"now I feel naked" haaaahahahahahah

Lor:

"tell him to send legs" HAAAAHAHAHAHAHA

Mace:

HAHAHA

Lor:

I refuse to believe that they did not know what they were doing with Dean and Cas right from the start

Mace:

meh, I think the writers are mostly idiots, to be honest, and stumbled onto the good stuff. the rest is all on Jensen, Jared, and Cas as amazing actors

Lor:

lolololol I love the establishing shot: snowy mountains, must be Colorado, right?

Lor:

I MEANT Jensen and Cas

Lor:

omg DUDE we BOTH called Misha Cas haaaaahahahahaha

Mace:

oh AHA! well yes then

Mace:

OMG HAHAHAHAHA

Lor:

omg the tone of the music with the destruction

Mace:

quality soundtrack choice

Lor:

omg I LOVE when music goes from undiegetic to diegetic

Mace:

YES

Mace:

“hello boys” NOT YOUR LINE, ELLEN

Lor:

RIGHT?

Lor:

ALSO HOW ABOUT A HUG

Lor:

okay there it is. jeez

Mace:

HAHAHHA

Lor:

hahahaha the slap

Mace:

I don’t like her, but I do like that she calls Dean “kid"

Mace:

YES

Lor:

and the "yes, ma'am"

Mace:

YES

Lor:

agreed. I always love it when someone treats him like they love him, especially WHILE they are tearing him a new one, but Ellen as a character? meh

Mace:

exactly

Mace:

just because she’s a pregnant woman, Dean, doesn’t mean she can’t handle herself. Jesus.

Lor:

RIGHT?

Lor:

although I do suspect that THAT pregnant woman might not be able to

Mace:

well sure but I’m trying to make a point here, Lor

Lor:

I DO apologize. *drags over a box for you*

Lor:

that canned soup probably has enough salt in it to be useful

Mace:

*checks to see if box has cookies in it before realizing it’s full of soap*

Mace:

HAAAAAHAHAHAHA

Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Lor:

*hands you another, smaller, box, this one WITH cookies*

Mace:

YAS

Mace:

*munches*

Mace:

Sammy, no. Don’t lick that.

Lor:

look, in GENERAL, Sammy, don't like knives

Lor:

*lick. dammit

Lor:

like them all you want

Mace:

SNORK

Mace:

WHY is it that every pregnant character on the screen is constantly holding her belly. NO ONE ACTUALLY DOES THAT

Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Lor:

ooooof, Dean

Lor:

I feel like if I had ever been pregnant, I would have used the shelf as a good place to rest the snacks

Mace:

YEP

Mace:

been there

Lor:

I mean, the boobies work, surely the baby bump would too

Mace:

works pretty good until the kicking starts

Lor:

LOL

Lor:

now I'm picturing chips just like flying out of the bowl

Mace:

SNORK

Mace:

ope, fret boys

Mace:

not really any of your business, Ellen

Lor:

okay, so Sam is incredibly hot when he gets angry and shoves people and Dean is incredibly hot shoved up against a wall. it's fine. I'm fine

Mace:

HAHAHAHA RIGHT?!

Lor:

also SOME GIRL? Have you met them? They never like the same girls

Lor:

and girls are always about one of them or the other

Mace:

right?! she’s a dummy

Lor:

WATCH THE SHOW ELLEN

Mace:

HAHAHAHA

Lor:

YAY RUFUS

Mace:

YES

Lor:

oh Dean

Mace:

right?

Lor:

"random's good"

Mace:

YES

Lor:

"this isn't x-files, pal"

Mace:

Ellen really should be a great character. strong woman and all, but she just… sucks. and I can’t really figure out what it is about her that doesn’t work

Mace:

HA

Lor:

right? she should be great but she's just kind of annoying

Mace:

is it the actor? the writing? maybe a little of both

Lor:

lol the poor pastor

Lor:

yeah, probably a bit of both

Mace:

HAHAHA YEP

Mace:

War is excellent, on the other hand

Lor:

YES

Mace:

War’s a daddy and I’m okay with that

Lor:

RIGHT?

Mace:

“that’s adorable” HA

Lor:

LOL

Mace:

Oh Sammy, don’t listen to him

Mace:

look at those puppy eyes

Lor:

RIGHT?!

Mace:

army dude is also a cutie

Lor:

he really is

Mace:

“genius” I love it

Lor:

YES

Mace:

Rufus is master-level snark

Lor:

"stop firing usually means stop firing" I LOVE HIM

Lor:

YES

Lor:

Frodo of the niiiiiine fingers

Mace:

War calling them kiddos to parallel Ellen

Mace:

HAHAHAHAHA

Lor:

YEP

Mace:

omg Dean’s LotR reference!

Mace:

You two

Lor:

"so pit stop at mount doom" DEEEAN

Lor:

YAAAAAAS

Mace:

Oh Sammy, I love you just the way you are

Lor:

well of course

Lor:

omg Dean's squinty face before he agrees

Mace:

UGH THESE TWO

Lor:

and his freeeeckles

Mace:

you KNOW you don’t want to be apart, boys. just STOP

Lor:

RIGHT?

Lor:

maybe someone should knock their heads together

Lor:

OMG offering Sam Baby

Mace:

THEY TOTALLY SHOULD

Mace:

YES

Lor:

"you too, Sammy" OMG BOYS STOOOOOP

Mace:

FRUSTRATION NOISES

Lor:

LOL YES

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Sex and Violence

Welcome to “Mind the Rocks, Boys: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

Up today, s4e14: Sex and Violence.

Men are killing their wives for what seems to be no good reason, and so the boys, of course, investigate. Turns out they’re on the hunt for a siren, which takes on the form its victim most desires. In the midst of the hunt, tensions between the brothers are simmering, mostly because Dean hates that Sam is doing whatever he’s doing with Ruby and lying to him about it. It doesn’t help that the Hot Doc they meet while on the case is totally into Sam and not Dean (this isn’t a situation Dean’s familiar or comfy with), and when Dean finds out Sam has boinked her in her office while he’s supposed to be working, Dean accuses HD of being the siren and goes off to solve the case on his own. Jokes on him, though, because the FBI agent he teams up with IS, in fact, the siren (oh, and should we talk about how it’s presenting as a dude for Dean?). Eventually FBI Siren infects both brothers and it honestly doesn’t take much stick-poking to get them right at each other’s throats. In fact, they come very close to killing each other when Bobby shows up just in time to gank the monster and save the day. #bestfosterdadever. The episode ends with Bobby leaving the boys with a slight stinkeye, and the boys shoving their real feelings under the rug, as per yoosh.

Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

Mace:

Cas you’re such a snitch

Lor:

LOL

Lor:

this is why you don't keep a meat tenderizer around

Mace:

or maybe just not marry a douche

Lor:

aw lookit ’im sleepin

Lor:

well sure

Lor:

Sam's wearing Wes's sweater!

Mace:

i think you mean honshooing

Mace:

YES

Lor:

LOL

Lor:

now, Dean

Lor:

let's not judge people by their names

Mace:

yeah

Mace:

so this guy’s a dick in several directions. got it.

Lor:

right?

Lor:

I mean, I know there's wacky shit happening, but still

Mace:

yep

Mace:

demons didn’t make him walk into that strip club

Lor:

NOPE

Lor:

"far as I know" LOL

Mace:

HA

Lor:

look it him all in his lovely suit, all leaning forward all earnest

Mace:

yeah. she needs to back off though

Lor:

LOL

Lor:

she does

Lor:

I LOVE that everyone is either a Sam girl or a Dean girl [gender neutral]

Mace:

i mean, Sam in a suit will produce those levels

Lor:

YEP

Mace:

DEAN. WINCHESTER.

Lor:

lololol

Lor:

"I read"

Mace:

HA

Lor:

or it could be whoever is using a Disney princess name

Mace:

(Sirens didn’t lure the men in with sex - they sang to them songs that told stories of the men being great heroes and THAT’s what the men couldn’t resist)

Mace:

HA

Lor:

(oooo. that is so much more interesting)

Mace:

(yep. that’s usually the case with modern takes vs original tales)

Lor:

this is why you don't keep fire pokers around

Mace:

snork

Lor:

everyone would be fine if they just ridded themselves of these heavy blunt objects

Lor:

you glare at that phone, Dean, you glare at it

Mace:

sure sure

Mace:

Dean. Quit snooping

Lor:

he's so WORRIED. and so boundary hopping

Mace:

mrrrph

Mace:

dude. it sounds pretty straight forward

Lor:

right?

Lor:

the misdirection in this ep is awesome

Mace:

you mean the doc?

Lor:

yeah

Mace:

Ha! I feel like it’s pretty blunt, really

Lor:

oh well FINE, smarty pants

Lor:

I was totally fooled the first time

Lor:

heeee Bobby

Mace:

I mean, she’s clearly pulling all these boys in

Lor:

yeah

Mace:

Dean’s freckles are out of control

Lor:

you're supposed to have a one-night stand with him, Dean

Lor:

YAAAS

Mace:

well he knows stuff about Baby and loves her, so he’s halfway there

Lor:

YEP

Lor:

i don't get strip clubs? aren't you just getting all worked up with no way to do something about it?

Mace:

perfect for men who like to pretend to have big dicks

Lor:

LOL

Lor:

so what's the appeal? is it all performance? lookit me I'm at the strip club I'm such a man?

Lor:

wouldn't watching porn at home be more fun?

Lor:

confused in introvert ace

Mace:

maybe it’s like sex larping? they get to pretend for a bit that the women are actually into them?

Lor:

aaah yeah maybe

Mace:

my GOD Sammy looks good in this ep

Lor:

he DOES

Lor:

the undone collar and rolled up sleeves

Lor:

nice parallelism bt Sam and the doc hanging out and connecting with their work clothes a little after-hours rumpled and Dean and Nick doing the same thing

Mace:

yeah

Mace:

Sam. Come on. She’s gross.

Lor:

right?

Lor:

she's just annoying

Mace:

SUPER annoying

Mace:

because you just boned her, Sam

Lor:

yeah, that's not a hunch, Sam, that's an erection

Mace:

HAHAHAHA

Mace:

“what’s with you and banging monsters"

Mace:

HAHAHAHAHA

Lor:

LOL

Mace:

okay mister I Poked The Stupidest Angel

Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOL

Mace:

mmmm, toast

Lor:

"crazy on toast"

Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

Lor:

with some butter and cinnamon and sugar

Lor:

aw, Dean. he just wants someone to value him

Mace:

yep

Lor:

I VALUE YOU DEAN

Mace:

it’s stupid though that they’re playing it as if the siren is offering dudebro status. Come on.

Lor:

yeah, Dean doesn't want to be brothers with you, Nick

Lor:

RIGHT?!

Lor:

I mean, sure, part of why this works is bc Dean is feeling alienated from Sam, but he absolutely does not want Nick like a brother

Mace:

“and it wasn’t some bitch in a g-string” well, they at least got it half right

Lor:

YEP

Mace:

EW

Lor:

ick

Mace:

oh really, Dean? you’re not hiding stuff?

Lor:

yeeeeah

Lor:

Sam! Stop underestimating Dean's intelligence

Lor:

neither of these two get pie

Mace:

Ha!

Lor:

dude playing Nick is 100% playing this like lovers not brothers

Mace:

and Bobby’s stronger and smarter than both of them

Lor:

YAAAAAS

Lor:

"you boys are drivin, ain't ya?"

Lor:

I LOVE Dad!Bobby

Mace:

YES

Lor:

Bobby. Knock their heads together

Mace:

Aw, Bobby. Good parenting

Lor:

YES

Lor:

"course, me too"

Lor:

you lying little dopes

Mace:

totally unintentional I’m sure, but I love that the siren caused them to tell each other truths they didn’t want to hear instead of lies they did

Lor:

YAAAAAS

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Time Is on My Side

Welcome to “He's not even staying caught up on his reading: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

  Up today, s3e15: Time is on My Side.

    Dean's running out of time and Sam's getting desperate to save him, so Sam convinces his brother to head to Ohio to investigate cases of folks getting abducted and then waking up without certain organs. Secretly Sam suspects it's the reappearance of a zombie-like doctor their father hunted years ago, and he wants to learn the dude's secret to long life. Turns out it comes with a heavy price that Dean refuses to pay. Cue the gross-out organ harvesting scenes and fraught boys.

  Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

  Lor:

cool. gross dudes.

  Mace:

  HA! YEP

  Lor:

maybe one of them will get a supernatural comeuppance

Mace:

  it’s just possible

  Lor:

juuuust maybe

  Mace:

snork

  Mace:

  EW

  Lor:

yeeeeah

  Mace:

  any nurse worth her salt wouldn’t react like that, I’d think

  Lor:

RIGHT?

  Lor:

especially if she's an ER nurse or ER triage. come on

  Lor:

oh when will these demons learn that you don't insult a Winchester's family?

  Mace:

  he’s using the Dean Voice

  Lor:

he IS

  Mace:

  right?

  Lor:

like, don't they have a demon bulletin board on Hell Commons, or something?

  Mace:

HAHAHAHA

  Mace:

  oooof. Dean’s face

  Lor:

YES

  Mace:

  the other other white meat

  Lor:

LOL

  Lor:

"I mean, obviously, I want to hunt some ZOMBIES"

  Lor:

"excuse me. no, no we're very smart"

  Lor:

"you done?" " "I think so"

  Mace:

HAHAHAHA DEAN

  Mace:

  he’s hopped up on zombie excitement

  Lor:

he is

  Lor:

people are really bringing the sarcasm to the boys today

  Mace:

  they really are

  Lor:

"DUDE I'm EATING"

  Mace:

  HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

"antiques roadshow surgery" omg Dean

  Mace:

  YAS

  Lor:

SAM WINCHESTER stop trying to make Dean go off his food. poor muffin has three weeks to live

  Mace:

  I’m gonna have to go with Laura on this one, Sam. Maybe lay off a bit.

  Lor:

ooooo, Sammy. now you really know you've been bad

  Mace:

  *SNORK*

  Lor:

gaaaaah the heart monitor in the watch

  Mace:

  right?!

  Lor:

RUFUS

  Lor:

oh Sam

  Mace:

YES

  Mace:

  and yeah

  Lor:

oh no fraught brothers

  Mace:

YEP

  Mace:

  poor sweet stubborn yahoos

  Lor:

RIGHT?

  Lor:

"Sammy, be careful" "you too"

  Lor:

you two numbnuts COULD just say you love each other. the world will not end if you actually say that to your brother

  Lor:

omg his little grin to the security camera

  Mace:

  SNORK YES

  Lor:

"don't ‘look man, me’"

  Lor:

and he immediately switches to sir

  Lor:

adorable

  Mace:

you know, if we were in the bunker, we wouldn’t ever let the fraught get so far. we’d sit them down and not let either of them go off on their own all poutypants

  Mace:

  YES

  Lor:

OMG Rufus's grin when Dean pulls out the scotch

  Lor:

YES

  Mace:

  YES

  Lor:

"because I know things"

  Lor:

I love him

  Mace:

  YES

  Lor:

"ain't you a bucket of sunshine"

  Mace:

  ooof. DEAN.

  Lor:

RIGHT?

  Lor:

(also, serious fuck 327. if someone has been told his whole life he's gonna die awful or turn into a hollow husk of a man, you DON'T HAVE THAT HAPPEN AT THE END)

  Mace:

  (RIGHT?!?!)

  Lor:

he'll do anything once

  Mace:

omg DEAN WINCHESTER

  Mace:

  HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

LOLOL

  Mace:

  SAMMY NO

  Lor:

RIGHT?

  Lor:

Sam, this is where you turn around and get out and come back later with Dean

  Mace:

RIGHT?!

  Mace:

  I can’t believe we have to yell at him about this sort of thing AGAIN

  Lor:

silly Stringbean

  Mace:

  He may need punishing

  Lor:

SNORK

  Lor:

why would anyone want to live forever if all they do is find people to take their parts so they can keep living forever? like, he's not even staying caught up on his reading or anything

  Mace:

  HAHAHAHAHA OMG LOR I WAS JUST THINKING THAT

  Lor:

OMG I LOVE IT

  Mace:

  yas

  Lor:

OMG turning on the light switch with the gun

  Mace:

  YES

  Lor:

also the pinning to t wall

  Mace:

YAAASSSS

  Mace:

  HE’S SO STERN

  Lor:

he IS

  Lor:

oooof he lying

  Lor:

*her

  Mace:

Yep

  Mace:

  i knew what you meant

  Lor:

you good. I know you generally speak Lor gibberish

  Mace:

  HAHAHA

  Lor:

"whaddya mean no?"

  Mace:

OH DEAN

  Mace:

  yeah

  Lor:

oh Sam

  Lor:

oh god eye stuff

  Lor:

behind the sofa

  Mace:

YUP

  Mace:

EWEWEW

  Mace:

  smarty dean

  Lor:

YES

  Lor:

"wakey wakey eggs and bacy" omg

  Mace:

  YAS

  Lor:

I don't get the mechanics of this ep. if he's immortal to the point he can get stabbed and it doesn't matter, why do his organs wear out?

  Mace:

  right

  Lor:

I’m not usually fussed about that kind of handwavey stuff, but this one bugs me for some reason? maybe bc Sam thinks they can save Dean with it?

  Mace:

  yeah

  Lor:

omg the screaming over the black screen

  Mace:

  YES

  Lor:

dang she is cold

  Mace:

yep

  Mace:

  it was so totally Dean’s idea to use the sex dolls

  Lor:

DEFINITELY

  Lor:

dang, Dean's kinda cold here too. not that I think there's anything he could do in three minutes

  Mace:

he kinda is

  Mace:

  i think him being hard on her is him being hard on himself here

  Lor:

ooooo yeah

  Lor:

also he has no idea WHY she killed her parents, so he thinks she's just a greedy person who makes deals to kill family for money

  Lor:

and we all know how that kind of thing would go over with him

  Mace:

yeah

  Mace:

  this is one of the places where his knee-jerk judgement makes him just a little less than perfect

  Lor:

yep

  Lor:

which is part of why he's such a good character

  Mace:

  just a little, though

  Lor:

only a SMIDGE

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Long-Distance Call

Welcome to “Pack Your Panties, We’re Going to Ohio: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

  Up today, s3e14: Long-Distance Call.

 People in a town in Ohio are getting phone calls and IMs from the dead. Always someone who was very close to them and whose return they long for. The catch? Eventually the phone calls end in their gruesome deaths. The boys are on the case, but when Dean receives a call from John, he goes off the deep end—juuuust a little. Sam saves the day, but it’s clear Sam and Dean are both getting desperate and emotions are high as the clock ticks down for Dean.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

 (omg only three eps till Cas!)

  Mace:

 (OHMYGOD YAYYYY)

Lor:

 tsk, pull your collar down in the back over your tie, dude

  Mace:

 snork

  Lor:

 1 demerit

  Mace:

 harsh!

  Lor:

I don't make the rules!

  Mace:

 SNORK!

  Lor:

 it's all right he's not gonna live long enough to care about his demerits

  Mace:

 that’s very true

 CREEPY

  Lor:

 YEP

  Mace:

 EW the blood splatter sound

  Lor:

 haaaahahahahah the splatter on the phone

 LOL

  Mace:

 prolly brain splatter too

  Lor:

 LOL our different reactions

  Mace:

 YAS

 “pack your panties, Sam"

  Lor:

 "no we were actually talking about our feelings"

YOU COULD USE TO TALK ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS, BOY

  Mace:

 you KNOW you have a favorite boy band, Dean

 YES

  Lor:

 he DOES

he absolutely does

(it's the Backstreet Boys)

  Mace:

 of course it is

  BOYS. SO FRAUGHT

  Lor:

 "you really wanna talk about who’s keeping secrets from who?" oooooh FRAUGHT

 LOL

  Mace:

 YAS, SAMMY, COME TO OHIO

  Lor:

 "guess I"m going to ohio" SASSY

 YAAAAAS

 oooo I LOVE it when they communicate without talking like that

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 "a capital offense" and Sam's clearing his throat

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 my god, Sammy looks good in that suit

that checked shirt, his hair

  Lor:

 he DOES

Dean wants a lunch

OMG I love him

  Mace:

 YAS

 omg lookit THOSE suits

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

  Mace:

 “worth every penny”

DEAN WINCHESTER

  Lor:

 oh Dean

  Mace:

 OMG THEIR STERN FACES

  Lor:

 mrrrrrg Dean all stern voice

  Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 AND THEN THE SMUG SMILE

  Mace:

 YASYASYAS

  Lor:

 excuse, am ded

  Mace:

 SAME

 I think this is my favorite phase of Sammy hair

  Lor:

 it IS good

  "cause I was sort of busy"

OMG Dean's smile

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 I WISH people from the phone company dressed like that

  Mace:

 HA

  Lor:

 THAT ISN'T A CHEAP SUIT

  Mace:

 seriously, Sammy is KILLING ME right now

DIMPLES

  Lor:

 the collar with NO BUTTONS

the HINT of ridiculous sideburns but they aren't ridiculous YET

  Mace:

 YES

the little flippity curls in the back of his hair

  Lor:

 YAAAAS

nrrrrrg now it's UNBUTTONED

  Mace:

 DEEEEDDDDD

  Lor:

 omg the girl walking past him who gives him the look

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 oh DEAN

  Mace:

 oh DEAN NO

 HAHAHA

  Lor:

 you KNOW it's not your dad, honey

come ON

 "like OPRAH"

  Mace:

 SNORK!

 poor tiger he’s SHOOK

  Lor:

 HE IS

 okay, Sam, you need to swaddle your brother in a soft blankie and lock him in a room. he is not okay to do this case right now

  Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 (I’ve been to Milan, OH)

 omg the EYEBROWS

  Lor:

 (woot! did you go to the museum?)

 YES

  Mace:

 no

but they have edison signs all over

  Lor:

 "what's with the quotey fingers?"

  Mace:

 HAHAHA

  Lor:

 "we're walking and we're not touching that" OMG she's hilarious but I would have to smack her in real life

  Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 "the moldy are calling the freshies" omg

  Mace:

SNORK

 oh Dean, sitting up waiting for the call

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 "do what?" omg his voice

  Mace:

 “you’re my boy, I love you” aaaand it’s definitely not him

  Lor:

 he said he loves you Dean, you KNOW THAT'S NOT HIM

 HAAHAHAAHHAHA YES

 this is SUCH a creepy concept

  Mace:

 IT IS

  Lor:

 "my ass is too sweet to let out of sight" DEAN

  Mace:

 he’s…not wrong

  Lor:

 TRUE

 omg the way Sam is trying to be patient and Dean is going off

  Mace:

 Dean, eat a piece of cheese, dude

 YES

  Lor:

 LOL

they both need hugs

  Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 "maybe that's all I got okay?"

  Mace:

 oh DEAN

  Lor:

 "please don't go anywhere until I get back

sam I TOLD you to swaddle him. he's just gonna flail and cry and take off now

  Mace:

 they never listen to us

  Lor:

 nope

silly boys

  Mace:

 um, what little kid would just matter-of-factly answer that play phone?

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

  Mace:

 I would have pooped my little pants

  Lor:

 YEP

though I like the parallel of the little boy answering the phone that's his mom and then immediately Dean answering the phone that's his dad

  Mace:

 oooh YES

  Lor:

 Dean can't stop being a little boy here

  Mace:

 NOPE

  Lor:

 "is that a sandwich?"

  Mace:

 “is that a sandwich"

 HAHAHA

  Lor:

 "this is herman munster" HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 omg stop hitting Sammy in the head

  Mace:

 Ope, Sammy and the head concussions

HAHAHA

  Lor:

 LOLOLOLOLOL

 poor Stewie

  Mace:

 ew

  Lor:

 oooooh boy

  Mace:

 yeah

this is just cruel

  Lor:

 (I assume Dean is at the dude's house. i don't remember)

  Mace:

 (yep)

  Lor:

 omg moving his hair with the knife

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 omg that move with the gun

  Mace:

 YES

SO COMPETENT

  Lor:

 YAAAAAS

and hot

  Mace:

 EWEWEWEWEWEW

  Lor:

 and hotly competent

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 GROOOOOSS

SEE that impaling I believe would kill someone

UNLIKE SOME

  Mace:

 HAAAAAHAHAHAHA

 oh that Dean LOOK

poor kitten

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 HOW DID HE GET OUT OF THAT ONE?

 "i see they improved your face" "right back atcha"

  Mace:

 BOYS

  Lor:

 "i gave you a hell of a time on this one" oh DEAN

  Mace:

 DEAN

  Lor:

 "I'm scared, Sam. I'm really scared" "I know" GAAAAAAAAH I CAN'T

  Mace:

 ME NEITHER

  Lor:

 "and me"

GAAAAAH

  Mace:

 YAS

  Lor:

 "that's what you come back with? and me?" "you want a poem?"

HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 drinking together in the motel room sigh

  Mace:

 THESE TWO

  Lor:

 holds them

  Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 our poor boys

  Mace:

 INDEED

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Metamorphosis

Welcome to “I swear to Chuck, Dean Winchester, if you say Man Pig one more time…: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

   Up today, s4e4: Metamorphosis.

 In the suburbs, a married man is becoming insatiable for meat. And maybe… human flesh? He’s scaring the bejesus out of his wife (and himself), but when two incredibly handsome young men clad in flannel show up and tell him it’s because he’s a monster, he’s not buying it. (Always believe handsome young men in flannel when they tell you you’re a monster.) Turns out the dude can NOT become a full-on monster as long as he refrains from eating human flesh. Once he does, there’s no going back. But the boys are divided on whether he can be saved—Sam argues that he’ll be able to control himself and be fine; Dean is sure he is doomed to be a monster. This, of course, echoes their positions on what’s going on with Sam and Ruby and how they each feel about THAT. The episode’s climax involves a lot of ew and gross and an old hunter friend of John’s being awful. And our boys… are FRAUGHT.

  Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

  Mace:

 Interesting. I don’t think Sam gets objectified like this often (“slutting around”)

  Lor:

 no, I don't think he does

 oh Dean

I FORGOT that he finds out by spying

  Mace:

 yeah

Lor:

 "is that Ruby?" and the LOOK

  Mace:

 right?!

  Lor:

 oh he's maaaaad

they are so FRAUGHT

  Mace:

 he really is

  Lor:

 ooo Sammy's wearing one of his BEST shirts

  Mace:

 HE IS

  oh Dean, you don’t wanna leave

HEY NOW, LAY OFF MY STRINGBEAN

  Lor:

 oh Dean, that's it, cycle that violence

  Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 OH! Sam's being influenced by Ruby BUT Dean's being influenced by Cas. and they both CAN be influenced bc something in there lets them be, but I never picked up on the parallel before

  Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 I feel a little dumb right now. like, it's RIGHT THERE

  Mace:

 snork

  Lor:

 but Cas is definitely not a love interest for Dean. definitely not

  Mace:

 NOPE DEFINITELY NOT

JUST FRIENDS

  Lor:

 only bros

  Mace:

 we don’t need to discuss how there’s 1000% more sexual tension in the scenes between Cas and Dean than Ruby and Sam...

  Lor:

 lol nope

 not beat down after five or six years of marriage to JOHN

  Mace:

 and the fact that Sam and Ruby are married in real life now so there must have been actual tension between them but still Misha and Jensen provoke more sexy vibes…

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

I was just trying to figure out how to say something very similar

  Mace:

 HA

  Lor:

 "weird with crazy on top"

 dude, have a string cheese. this is what they are FOR

  Mace:

 YEP

 HAHAHAHAHA

 this one is just kinda gross

  Lor:

 yeah

 WOULD HE? or would he find something to criticize

  Mace:

 enough with the pointed snark, Dean

 oh he would totally criticize

  Lor:

 "is that made up? that sounds made up"

  yeah, Dean is passive aggressiving today

  Mace:

 LONG PIG

EW

  Lor:

 LOL

I love that it's Sam who knows what it means, not Dean

  Mace:

 yeah, that doesn’t seem right somehow

  Lor:

 yeah

I suspect it was sloppy, but I kind of like the against-type of it

  Mace:

 yeah

  Lor:

 so props for calling the jerk out but points off for the fatphobia

  Mace:

 yep

i do love that they do things to make the ‘bad’ guy sympathetic

  Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 SAM SAID LORE EVERYBODY DRINK

  Lor:

 LOLOLOLOLOLOL

 ooof Dean, people pleasing and managing the people/conversation

  Mace:

 YEP

 okay so here we have Dean on the side of black-and-white and Sam on the side of greys

  Lor:

 Travis, you dick, YES they have not eaten in days, you KNEW their dad, you jerk

 yep

  Mace:

 we should keep score on these because I think I remember they flipflop several times throughout the show

  Lor:

 oh yeah, they definitely do

  ooo, retrograde marital dynamics

fun

  Mace:

 HA yeah

 um, WHOSE emotions are getting in the way, Dean?

  Lor:

 I think they flip on the grey thing depending on what's going on with them. Sam wants monsters to be okay sometimes bc he's afraid he's kind of one. Dean wants it to be black and white bc he wants Sam to just STOP using his powers. you'd think they'd learn at some point though

  RIGHT?

  Mace:

 yeah

  Lor:

 Dean can never resist upset Sammy

  "hungry hungry hippos levels" DEAN

  Mace:

 I wonder if part of why Dean’s panties are so bunched about all this is that he has always felt wrong/inadequate/not-enough (thanks to John) and so he tries to protect Sam and keep him normal

 HAHAHA

  Mace:

 STOP. SAYING. MAN. PIG. DEAN.

  Lor:

 oh YES

 LOL

  Mace:

 he feels like he’s failing Sammy so he’s angry at himself and taking that out on Sam

  Lor:

 YES

  DEAN. stop being a little shit! NO PIE

  Mace:

 Come on, we all know you’d give in in a heartbeat and give him pie

  Lor:

 ....

yeah, it's true

I can't even pretend it's not true anymore

he's just little and he's never done anything wrong

  Mace:

 HAAAAHAHAHA

  “we should go” “yeah"

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 "we're here to save you! i guess"

  Mace:

 BOYS

  Lor:

 HAHAHAHAHA

  so he only wants to eat women?

  Mace:

 well, eating men would be kind gay

  Lor:

 it feels like there's a sexual component here they are not addressing

  Mace:

 HAHAHA

  Lor:

 HA! and no one would want THAT. not on the Man Show

  Mace:

 nope

 OH DAMN I forgot about this part

  Lor:

 so not that all options here aren't awful, but Travis is aware you can... not have a child without killing the woman?

  Mace:

 that wouldn’t be the Christian thing to do, though, now would it

  Lor:

 splutters in 2023

  Mace:

 HAAAAAHAHAHA

  oh Travis is dead. how tragic.

  Lor:

 yes, I weep

  OMG LOCK YOUR CAR WHEN YOU LEAVE IT ON THE STREET

  Mace:

 SNORK

  Lor:

 correct, Sammy

  Mace:

 YES

 ew.

  Lor:

 yeah

  omg stop hitting Sammy in the head!

  Mace:

 omg STOP HITTING SAM IN THE HEAD

  Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 HAAAAHAHAHAHA

  Mace:

 my Bean’s gonna have the brain damage

  Lor:

 seriously

  look. when the Winchesters show up and tell you to do something, you do it. that's how you don't end up a monster who can't see your family.

  Mace:

 ayup

 for the life of me I can’t understand how anyone could say no to either of them

  Lor:

 interesting choice to have Dean lying down like this for this scene

  RIGHT?

  Mace:

 well if they didn’t then he’s have burned the dude without chatting first

  Lor:

 it's definitely not as sexual assaulty as somethings they do to him, but

  Mace:

 and they needed Sammy to have his little existential crisis talk first

  Lor:

 well, he could be unconscious in a chair or something

  Mace:

 mmm

  Lor:

 LYING

  Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 oh boys

  Mace:

 yeah

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching No Rest for the Wicked

Welcome to “Do Genitals Have a Skeletal System in Hell?: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

  Up today, s3e16: No Rest for the Wicked.

 Dean’s got days now, and the desperation leads the boys to fight over what to try next. Ruby has a plan Dean doesn’t like, and Sam is frustrated (again) by Dean’s refusal to trust her. Meanwhile, Lilith, the demon who reportedly holds Dean’s contract, has possessed a young girl and is using her to torment and kill members of the child’s family. Bobby is able to pinpoint Lilith’s location, and the boys infiltrate the home in an attempt to kill Lilith. They fail. In the final moments before midnight, Dean hears hell hounds. The dogs, invisible to everyone else, rip him to shreds, leaving no doubt that he's dead. The final shots of the episode zoom in through Dean’s sightless eyes, where we see him suspended from meat hooks in what can only be hell, yelling his brother’s name in anguish.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

 SEASON FINALE RECAP CARRY OOOOON

 Mace:

 YAS

 oh DEAN

  Lor:

 YES

 Lor:

 wow it's like the start of an Arrow season. running through the woods

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 oh Dean. if you WILL read horror lore before bed...

 Mace:

 snork

 “let’s never do that"

good boy, Sammy

  Lor:

 YES

(I LOVE THAT THEY FAIL)

 Mace:

 (YEP)

 I love it when Bobby calls them “kid"

  Lor:

 YES

they are his BOYS

 Mace:

 THEY ARE

 INDIANA

WOOT

  Lor:

 "when Bella breathes, the air comes out crooked"

 Mace:

 HA

  Lor:

 poor Dean. he's gonna go to hell for 40 years and when he gets back, Sammy is STILL hanging out after school with Ruby

 Mace:

 “just no” and the way his voice breaks

  Lor:

 YAAAS

 Mace:

 ooof, yeah

  Lor:

 I bet Sam is absolutely going to do what his brother asked him to

 Mace:

 SNORK!!

 Ruby, not everything needs a cutesy nickname

  Lor:

 right?

especially when you occupy space with *the* Dean Winchester, the queen of that

 Mace:

 SNORK

  Lor:

 oh how I enjoy watching Laurel chew on a paper bag and calling it acting

/sarcasm

 Mace:

 HA right?!

 “I knew SAM wouldn’t listen"

  Lor:

 pets him

 dicks don't have spines. generally

 Mace:

 well maybe they do where she’s from

  Lor:

 SNORK

 I LOVE HIM

 Mace:

 you do? really?!

get the smelling salts

  Lor:

I know it truly is shocking

 Mace:

 so shocking

 OH CLEVER BOY

  Lor:

 YAAAS

he's so SMART

 Mace:

 Sammy is looking very lovely today

  Lor:

 he is

 Mace:

 AHA! Dean’s been watching the show

  Lor:

 i'm enjoying Dean's light-colored t-shirt too

 HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH

 Mace:

 YES

 “I totally rehearsed that speech, too"

I want to see that pls

  Lor:

 (I HATE that they try to position 327 as them finally not doing this/breaking this habit of sacrificing for each other when there is NO reason to think they didn't have other options that didn't involve making a bad deal to try first)

  YES

 oh MAN I forgot THIS is in THIS episode

 Mace:

 (YUP)

 oof, yeah, this is rough

 this kid is SO GOOD

  Lor:

 she IS

  Lor:

 is that... plastic?

 Mace:

 Bobby with the ol’ distributer cap trick

  Lor:

 would that be in a 67 impala?

(I am legitimately asking you)

  Lor:

 FAMILY DON'T END IN BLOOD BOY

 Mace:

 i wouldn’t think so but maybe as a replacement part?

 FAMILY DON’T THAT’S RIGHT

  Lor:

 mmm

 Mace:

 OHANA BITCHES

  Lor:

 omg abashed Dean

 DAMN STRAIGHT OHANA BITCHES

 Mace:

 OMGHESSINGING

  Lor:

 YAAAAAAS

 Mace:

 oh dean honey

  Lor:

 omg the way he stops singing

 Mace:

 THE TAILLIGHT IS OUT ON HIS SIDE

ON. HIS. SIDE.

  Lor:

 OF COURSE IT IS

 Mace:

 Mr. Hagar HAHAHAHA

  Lor:

 LOL

 oh honey. his FACE

 Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 "so you can see hell's other bitches"

BOBBY

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA

 knives don’t make that sound when they’re cutting cake

  Lor:

 the juxtaposition of the little girl stuff and the horrible stuff is brilliant

 LOL

they don't

 Mace:

 it really is

  Lor:

 Bobby calling Dean son i cannot

 Mace:

 yep

  Lor:

 everybody stop hurting Dean

 Mace:

 yes, he needs to be perfect for the devil dogs

  Lor:

 I was thinking more about alleviating his suffering but SURE MACE

 Mace:

 SNORK!!!

  Lor:

 is something important happening here, bc I might be stuck imagining myself as the dad here in ONLY this scene

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

  Lor:

 I love that the mom catches on immediately

 Mace:

 YES

 “YES YOU ARE” oh BOYS

  Lor:

 I was JUST gonna say that

THEIR FACES

 Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 YES DEAN he should remember what YOU taught him

 Mace:

 EXACTLY

SCREW JOHN

 oh SAMMY

  Lor:

 HOW does Jensen make like one tiny muscle in his face twitch like that?!

 Mace:

 no idea

 it’s not that pretty [Ed. Lor here. I feel compelled, COMPELLED, I tell you, to note that this was not in reference to Jensen’s face. okay. carry on. (sorry.)]

  Lor:

 it really isn't

 Mace:

 look, i’m concerned about Dean but having him sprawled on the table like that is...distracting

  Lor:

 it REALLY is

 Mace:

 oh SAMMY

  Lor:

 ooooof SAM

 Mace:

 oh Bean

  Lor:

 the zoom into hell through his eye is SO COOL

 Mace:

 it IS

  Lor:

 SAAAAAAAAAAM

 Mace:

 OOOOF

  Lor:

 and the second scream of his name over the credits

 Mace:

 hold on DeanDean, Cas is coming

   Lor:

 YAAAAAAAAAAAS

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Bad Day at Black Rock

Welcome to “*pets everything*: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s3e3: Bad Day at Black Rock

  The boys discover that John had a storage unit they didn't know anything about, and someone has broken into it. When they track down the someones, they find that the stolen object is a lucky rabbit's foot, but you're only lucky while you possess it; once you lose it, your luck turns very, very southerly. This episode is their first encounter with the thief, Bella, who tricks the boys so badly Dean feels the need to shout "SON OF A BITCH" very, very loudly. It's one of the best of the goofball episodes, and we get to see Jared stretch his funny acting muscles a bit more than usual. It's a real treat!

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

  [and we begin:]

  Mace:

 ugh gordon

 Lor:

i was JUST gonna say just that

 Mace:

 HA

Lor:

oh he will, Gordon. he has. that fixes nothing, honey

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

aw the fraught brothers

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

gosh Sam switches to smarty handling the cold call so QUICK

 Mace:

HE DOES

 Mace:

 OMG IS THIS THE I’M BATMAN ONE?!?!

 Lor:

um, excuse, Gordon is NOT the best. there's at LEAST four people in front of him

 Lor:

it IS

 Mace:

YAAAAS

 Mace:

 “don’t play with my Jesus” HAHAHA

 Lor:

and these too chuckheads crack me up

 Lor:

YES!

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

they are TRACKERS I LOVE THEM

 Lor:

(also, just for the record: fuck John)

 Mace:

oh god the trophy

 Mace:

 (YAS)

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 Sam got to play soccer, and Dean got to make a sawed off shotgun

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

wraps Dean in blankets. tells him to hush when he fusses about it

 Mace:

YEP

 Mace:

 EDITING

 Lor:

"kinda like the pandora deal" yeah, sure, Dean, you don't read. pets him

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"Grossman."

 Lor:

these two too

 Mace:

he’s not reading the right things. IT’S A JAR NOT A BOX

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

I have said it before and I will say it again: the guest stars on SPN are amazing

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

he read a bad translation

 Lor:

"IT'S A RABBIT'S FOOT, GROSSMAN"

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

"not to be a drag or nothing"

 Mace:

 HA

 Lor:

dean's little singsong on “security camera”

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

 i LOVE the music in this one

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

omg their faces

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

 oh Sammy, don’t touch it

 Lor:

silly boy

 Mace:

yeah

 Mace:

 omg the way Sam looks at the gun

 Lor:

the PRAT FALLS

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"is that a rabbit's foot?" "I think it is"

 Lor:

BIGGERSONS

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

"my gun don't jam"

 Mace:

 no it doesn’t

 Lor:

not the way he takes care of it

 Mace:

 Dean, honey, you KNOW better of COURSE it’s cursed

 Lor:

Dean's WHOOO

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Lor:

pets optimistic Dean

 Mace:

 oh god, this really gross scene

 Lor:

YEP

 Lor:

one of the worst

 Lor:

partly because it is SO TELEGRAPHED

 Mace:

WHO PUTS THE FORK LIKE THAT

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

CHUCKLEHEADS, that's who

 Mace:

 UGHUGHUGH

 Lor:

NOPENOPENOPE

 Mace:

 poor grossman

 Lor:

and the squish

 Mace:

 “DAMMIT SAM”

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

 oh yes ew

 Lor:

lololol

 Lor:

WAY TO TELL YOUR SONS SHIT, JOHN

 Mace:

RIGHT?!

 Mace:

 “EVERYBODY LOSES IT”

 Lor:

Dean counting and doing math in the air in the background

 Lor:

pets Jensen

 Mace:

 Bobby is so done with them

 Lor:

he IS

 Mace:

 “you can be rainman"

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

DEAN'S SMILE

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 and Sam’s grimace

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"I got canned everything"

 Mace:

 that’s a different kind of ew

 Lor:

he's having a banana split

 Lor:

LOL

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Mace:

omg the way they both lean over to watch her walk away

 Mace:

 and then Dean’s “DUDE.”

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"if you were ever going to get lucky"

 Lor:

"how is that good?"

 Lor:

oh Dean

 Mace:

YEP

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA SAMMY

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

oh his KNEES

 Mace:

 I need to patch him up

 Lor:

Dean's face when realizes Sam fell and stops running

 Lor:

YEAH YOU DO

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

"I like that when they drop the whole onion in the fryer"

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Mace:

 OMG SAMMY

 Lor:

this scene with Grossman is literally where I learned that when people say "pour one out for whoever" that people actually DO pour one out

 Lor:

OMG SAM

 Mace:

 omg Lor that is ADORABLE

 Lor:

"yeah I'm good"

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

 Lor:

look, Supernatural is educational

 Mace:

 oh, he said “goodbye, partner” because I’m learning the ESPANOL

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

SEE?

 Mace:

 nonono, I didn’t learn spanish from SPN, Lor

 Lor:

it's reinforcing it for you

 Lor:

pets SPN

 Mace:

look, I already love the show. no need to get bananas

 Mace:

 omg THE SHOE SCENE

 Lor:

SNORK

 Lor:

omg the SHOE

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

"oh crap it's probably Bella"

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 IDJIT HAHAHA

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"I lost my shoe"

 Lor:

his TONE

 Mace:

 YAAASSS

 Lor:

HIS FACE

 Mace:

I NEED TO WRAP HIM IN BLANKETS NOW

 Mace:

 and he wouldn’t complain

 Lor:

he would not

 Lor:

omg the nose itch

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

 adorable

 Lor:

the post it note

 Lor:

he's such a goof

 Lor:

I luff him

 Mace:

 YESYESYES

 Lor:

"aw come on... I didn't" SAM

 Mace:

 Sam does SUCH a good confused look

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

SAM that is made out something that makes fire worse, I guarantee it

 Mace:

 HA

 Lor:

the look on his face when his arm catches fire OMG

 Mace:

 YES I LOVE HIM

 Lor:

and the dudes out the window!

 Mace:

THE GOOF

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 I love this whole guns pointed at each other scene

 Lor:

aw lookit them circling each other

 Lor:

YES!

 Lor:

they are both so DANG pretty

 Mace:

THEY ARE

 Mace:

 “no, a great thief” YAS I LOVE IT

 Lor:

"yeah. a thief"

 Lor:

YESYESYES

 Lor:

their dynamic is great. I wish they got to do it longer

 Mace:

“Gordon?! Aw c’mon.”

 Mace:

 I agree!

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

and they should have had hot angry sex exactly once

 Mace:

 YES THEY SHOULD

 Lor:

"look, Bella, my brother. he touched the foot"

 Lor:

only on this show

 Mace:

HAHAHA

 Mace:

 and they don’t know that they each made a similar deal I LOVE IT

 Lor:

"aren't you a glass half full"

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

so cool

 Mace:

 omg the “see ya!”

 Lor:

Dean is great little pickpocket too love it

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"Lielielie"

 Lor:

this DUDE

 Lor:

he's hilarious

 Lor:

but I am going to have to beat him with his own Henley for hitting Sammy like that

 Mace:

 CORRECT

 Lor:

(he does wear the Henley nice though)

 Mace:

 he does

 Lor:

omg he thinks it's god

 Lor:

and in a weird way it is

 Mace:

 omg YAS

 Lor:

"yeah that thing"

 Mace:

“OMG DID YOU SEE THAT SHOT”

 Mace:

 i love him

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

he's having so much FUN

 Mace:

“I’M BATMAN” YAAAAASSSS

 Mace:

 HE IS

 Lor:

"I"m BATMAN"

 Lor:

YEEEEEES

 Lor:

and Sam's face!

 Mace:

 it ties right into him not getting to have a childhood

 Lor:

"yeah. you're batman"

 Lor:

YESYESYES

 Lor:

Dean frantically scratching tickets before they destroy it

 Lor:

(which, honestly, smart. they do need money)

 Lor:

omg Dean doing his speech and then she just shoots Sam

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"what the hell is wrong with you!"

 Lor:

omg they're adorable

 Mace:

 oh he is SO SMART

 Lor:

I really could have happily had like one episode a season where Bella shows up to hound them

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 and I want her reaction to DeanCas

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

she should absolutely be on team "clocked that within three seconds of seeing them together"

 Mace:

 YEP

 Mace:

 “SON OF A BITCH!!!”

 Lor:

"SON OF A BITCH"

 [after the episode ended:]

  Mace:

 and Jared’s little break

 Lor:

LOL YES

 Lor:

I don't think I'd noticed that before

 Lor:

he's cracking up that's adorable

 Lor:

I love that Gordon is like "yeah, Kubrick's nuts but that's fine he's a nuts that helps me"

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

sigh I love the fun ones

 Mace:

didn’t we see somewhere that Jensen adlibbed the SONOFABITCH and that’s why Jared breaks?

 Lor:

oh did we? i don't remember

 Lor:

but it sounds completely plausible

 Mace:

 I think so, or at least I did

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Heart

Welcome to “I Prefer Paper, Myself: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2e17: Heart

  Sam and Dean are out to find a werewolf who seems to be targeting people around a lovely young lady. There's a game of Rock Paper Scissors to decide who has to go out hunting and who gets to stay and protect the girl. Sam wins, of course, because Dean's game strategy is nonexistent, bless him. There's flirting (the girl) and doe eyes (Sam), but then things get awkward when Dean calls in with a suspicion that she is the werewolf. Sam fights to find a cure, and just when they celebrate what seems to be a victory (aka: Sam and girl have sexy times), things go very, very pear-shaped and Sam's happy ending gets severely rear-ended. Prep yourself for one of the gut-punchiest endings so far on the show.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

  Mace:

 oh a guy who scares me is in the bar and then disappears. I should definitely choose now to walk to my car alone.

 Lor:

why would you LEAVE a well-lighted place with your FRIENDS when you feel threatened to walk in the dark ALONE

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHAHA OMG

 Lor:

haaaaaaahahahahaha

Lor:

another, nice, cheery episode

 Mace:

YEP

Mace:

 poor Sammy

 Lor:

YEP

 Mace:

 god, his smile is adorable

 Lor:

it IS

 Lor:

mmmm Dean cleaning his gun

 Mace:

 “werewolves are badass” ADORABLE

 Lor:

"okaaay, Sparky"

 Lor:

omg

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 “yeah, I do, actually”

 Lor:

"yeah. I do, actually" haaaaaahahahaha

 Mace:

HAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 this woman is SO attractive

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

 I’m right there with both Dean and Sam

 Lor:

YEP

 Lor:

I love Dean's face contemplating whether to make a smart remark or actually check the freezer

 Mace:

 HAHAHA YES

 Lor:

aw, our boys. the very epitome of "run toward the gunshot"

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 omg Dean and RPS

 Lor:

"always with the scissors"

YES

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

haaaaahahahaha Madison omg

 Mace:

 omg the underpants

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 she’s adorable

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 and he’s so uncomfortable I LOVE HIM

 Lor:

YAAAS

 Lor:

"and because I’m good and I mean really, really good"

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 “aw, Sammy”

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"I saw that"

 Mace:

 she’s SALTY

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

I love her

 Lor:

omg he's so into it

I love it

 Mace:

 my god he is so PRETTY in this episode

 Lor:

yep

 Lor:

and her. I LOVE a crooked tooth on a woman

 Mace:

YAAASSS

  Mace:

 DEAN WINCHESTER

 Lor:

omg even when Dean's doing somethign that makes me want to DEAN WINCHESTER he's just so happy and stupid adorable about it

 Mace:

 AGREED

 Lor:

like there's no sleaze on it

 Mace:

 exactly

 Lor:

ooooooof

 Mace:

 yeeeah

 Lor:

even though I KNOW, it's still kind of awful

 Mace:

poor Sammy

 Mace:

 it IS

 Lor:

omg his face

 Mace:

RIGHT?!

 Mace:

 sad little moose muffin

 Lor:

“my head feels great, thanks"

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

hahaha "moose muffin" yaaas

 Mace:

 takes a bow

 Lor:

"maybe I understand her"

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

Sam's t-shirt under his sweater

 Mace:

YAAASSS

 Mace:

 jesus, the end of this ep with all three of them so flipping FRAUGHT

 Lor:

YES

the end of this one is SO good and SO hard

 Mace:

 it IS

 Lor:

he says that he prays it does

 Mace:

 he does

 Lor:

not hopes

it's a nice chocie

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

“dont mention it!"

 Mace:

YES

poor guy feels unappreciated

 Lor:

poor baby. I think he chafes a little under the fact that people read him as bad news so much of the time and he's actually spending his life helping people

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 snork! yours is so much more eloquent than mine

 Lor:

LOL

well

I might be more deranged about him than you are

 Mace:

SNORK

I’m too distracted by Sammy in this one

 Lor:

lol

 Lor:

"don't whatever me, man"

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

“we're...lurking"

HAHAHA

 Lor:

"so. we're... lurking"

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

they are welcome to lurk outside my place aaaaanytime

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

he's little soft "yeah"

 Mace:

YAS

 Mace:

LOOK AT HIS PUPPY EYES

and Dean reading the room

 Lor:

YES

YAAAAS

the way he keeps looking at Sammy like "you gonna... make a move or.....?"

 Mace:

YES

what’s the moose equivalent of a puppy?

  Lor:

calf

 Mace:

 ah, well, that doesn’t really work too well

 Lor:

it does not

 Lor:

"you too, Dean"

 Mace:

 omg Jensen’s eye crinkles

 Lor:

"so I'm just gonna head back to the hotel"

the FIST PUMP

 Mace:

omg his breakfast club pose

YES

 Lor:

Dean was ROBBED of having a sister-in-law

 Mace:

HAHAHAHA

 I volunteer as tribute

 Lor:

he and a SIL would be CHAOS

it would be amazing

 Lor:

YAAAAAAS

 Mace:

 YAS I VOLUNTEER AS TRIBUTE

 Lor:

lolololololol

 Lor:

MAN, the boys go about this sort of thing [sex] so VERY differently

 Mace:

 what? i can’t hear you am DED at this scene

 Lor:

lololololol

oh man that is a LOVELY looking snuggle

 Mace:

ISN’T IT?!

tucks it away in memory for…later

 Lor:

lololol

 Lor:

"I'm sorry, I am" and the way he keeps looking at Sam

 Mace:

YES

the way Sam looks at her

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

and the way Dean looks at Sam

 Mace:

 yep

 Lor:

this triangle of concern is SO compelling

 Mace:

it’s a triangle of FRET

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA OMG

 Lor:

hahahahaha US

 Mace:

YES

 Mace:

 big brother steps in

 Lor:

YES

and that oh so gentle taking the gun

 Mace:

YES

oh SAMMY

 Lor:

yeah

"she asked me to"

 Mace:

 oh god he’s so good at crying

 Lor:

he IS

 Mace:

 “just wait here” oh GOD

 Lor:

oh DEAN

 Mace:

 and Dean’s FACE

 Lor:

and his FLINCH

 Lor:

GOD that is such a good ending to the episode

 Mace:

 IT SO VERY IS

 Lor:

it's like they made the BEST choice. Sam does it but we don't follow him we watch Dean's reaction and that gives a second piece to the whole thing (Dean AND Sam and how they feel here) AND staying on Dean makes what's happening so much more ooooooof

 Mace:

Dean isn’t all that upset over the girl dying but over the hurt it’s causing Sam and the fact that he can’t help Sam here at all. Big brother fails to take care of little brother and it kills him

 Mace:

 yep

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 and it’s all the more stark a contrast because we’ve spent almost the entire episode from Sam’s POV up until right here

 Lor:

and it's like he has to feel like he raised Sam right that he is gonna do it himself and probably hates himself for raising him that kind of right because GOOD LORD. he hates that Sam is living a life where he has to do this but he also can't live the life without him

 Mace:

 Yep

 Lor:

YES. Dean is honestly barely in this one. he's just sort of... there along with Sam. and then that end

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Playthings

Welcome to “‘Antiques’ is a Euphemism for Destiel Spelled Backward: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2e11: Playthings

 The boys investigate a couple of strange deaths at an old mansion-hotel, where they encounter a room full of creepy-ass dolls, a girl with a not-so-imaginary friend, a grandma stashed in the attic, and a couple of interesting assumptions about their sexual orientations. Turns out, the place is haunted by the ghost of grandma's sister, who died as a child and wants a new playmate, aka the young daughter of the hotel owner. Sam and Dean suss it out in the nick of time, but not before playing with the creepy dolls and Sam getting stinking drunk and ordering Dean to kill him if necessary. Brotherly fraughtness abounds. Oh, and there's a cool-as-heck-but-also-very-creepy dollhouse, too.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

  [and we begin:]

 Lor:

oooo this is one of my favorite stand-alone eps

 Mace:

it’s a good one

 although the dolls super creep me out

 Lor:

YEP

Mace:

 that dollhouse is INSANE

 Lor:

the whole what happens in the real house and what happens in the doll house thing I just love as a creepiness

 Mace:

 agreed

 Lor:

something about the miniature and the stand-ins

 Mace:

 very voodoo-y

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

 staring out the rainy window OMG DEAN

 Lor:

"yeah, I'll shut up now"

 RIGHT?

 Mace:

 concern through ridicule

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

“I’m officially uncomfortable now"

 HAHAHA

 Lor:

picking on people as a way of saying "I love you"

 LOL

 Mace:

 DAPHNE

 Lor:

Fred and Daphne

 he loves Fred too

 Mace:

 HE DOES

 Lor:

we all know it

 Mace:

 “what did you mean that we look the type?” OH DEAN

 Lor:

omg Dean looking down at his clothes

 you look just like yourself, honey

 Mace:

it’s not your clothes, honey

 HAHAHAHA OMG LOR

 Lor:

MAAAAAACE

 Mace:

 I LOVE THAT SO MUCH

 Lor: <3

 Lor:

omg him falling into the bed

 Mace:

YES

 Sammy in that shirt

 Lor:

YES

 yes, dean that is the most troubling question

 omg his little "right"

 he DOESN'T OBJECT

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

God they both look so very VERY wonderful in this episode

 Mace:

 YES THEY DO

 Lor:

Dean you little shit I love you

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA “he loves to dress them up in little tiny outfits"

  Lor:

Dean VERY subtly getting back at Sam for Sam's little microaggression earlier

 Mace:

 oh yeah super subtle

 Lor:

suuuuper

 Lor:

DEAN

 Mace:

 “that’s not the kind of whacking I mean” DEAN WINCHESTER

 Lor:

he has to double down now on his masculinity

 Mace:

 SNORK

 Lor:

that little half wink

 "and short"

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA OMG SAM

 Lor:

SAAAAM

 oh, oh are you working a case, Dean? should one not drink while one is working a case, DEAN?

 Mace:

 oh ZING

 Lor:

awww he called him Sasquatch

 "Dad's an ass" CORRECT

 Mace:

 CORRECT

 Lor:

"I'm not dying" *rolls around in finale anger*

 Mace:

 snork!

 Lor:

the stupid little rips in his stupid little jeans

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"boy, you should never say that to an old man"

 I love this old guy

 Mace:

YES

 oh poor Sam

 Lor:

oh poor Sam

 lol

 Mace:

 “I hate you” “I know you do"

 Lor:

DEAN WINCHESTER

 Sam's little expression when Dean says he needs to brush his teeth

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

"dude, you're not going to poke her with a stick"

 Mace:

 “DUDE you’re not going to poke her with a stick!"

 Lor:

YAS

 Mace:

 I love his old truck

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

 how is this kid not creeped out by that?!

 Lor:

dunno. maybe she knows Maggie's doing it?

 Mace:

 well that’s not much better

 Lor:

LOL

 "it's been said"

 Mace:

 snork!

 Lor:

poor Dean

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

the look they exchange when she says Maggie's imaginary

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

creeeeepy

 Mace:

SO CREEPY

 sweet Sammy

 Lor:

YES

 this poor lady has had a WEEK

 Mace:

SNORK!

 I like that this is one time that they don’t find the bones and salt and burn them

 Lor:

YES

 "i didn't want you to feel useless"

 Mace:

 snork

 Lor:

aw, Sammy, that's dirty pool

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

I love that they also don't really know what happened

 Mace:

YES

 [after the episode ended:]

Mace:

 but it’s weird that they don’t salt and burn just to be safe. I like it because I like the ending but I also am… irked about it

 Lor:

yeah

 they don't even ask the questions

 which seems a bit out of character, especially for Dean as this point

 Mace:

it sure does

 seems like they could have figured out how to write that ending and also find a way for the boys to worry about it? or something? I dunno

  Lor:

yeah. some little line where Dean wants to find the body and Sam is all "I dunno, Dean, I think maybe Maggie is so tied to the house that we'd have to burn the whole thing to the ground" and Dean does a "I'm here for burning it ALL down" face and Sam does bitch face at him

  Mace:

Oooh yes I like that!

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Hunted

Welcome to “The Sam Who Mistook His Fellow Yellow-Eyed Minion Friend for a Ring: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today: S2E10: Hunted

 The cold open follows a young man describing his strange new powers to a psychiatrist. He is disturbed by his abilities and not getting much help. When his session is over, he is brutally murdered by an unseen assailant. Then Sam and Dean argue about John’s declaration that Dean would have to kill Sam if he couldn’t stop Sam from becoming evil. Dean wants to just cut and run to keep Sam safe, but Sam’s not having it. A tense scene follows of Sam breaking into an abandoned building and getting blown up, but wait—it’s a nightmare, of course. But it isn’t Sam’s nightmare? It’s a young woman we’ve never seen before waking up in a sweat and a panic. When Sam runs off to investigate the death of the young man from the opening, he meets Eva, the woman who had the nightmare—who’s come to warn him that she saw his death in a dream and that he’s in danger. Sam and Eva continue to look into the death until Gordon, who thinks Sam’s powers mean he should be hunted and killed, arrives and makes trouble. Gordon kidnaps Dean and uses him as bait to bring Sam to the very situation Eva saw in her dream. The boys make it through, of course, (after a few very tense moments), and Sam sets Gordon up for arrest. When Eva doesn’t answer her phone, Sam and Dean go to check on her, but find her fiancé dead in pools of his own blood in bed. There’s no sign of Eva, but her engagement ring is on the bedroom floor.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

 the use of this music here is brilliant and kind of freaky

 Mace:

 agreed

 Lor:

 the way the scene escalates as the music escalates

makes me wonder if they picked the song first before they wrote the scene. or maybe you can just manipulate the footage you have to make it work in editing

 Mace:

 interesting

I have no idea how that sort of thing works

  Lor:

 me either

I can recognize that they did a thing with the pacing, but no clue how they make that work

 Mace:

 yeah

  Lor:

 oh boys. our poor babies

 Mace:

 right?

and Dean still being stupidly loyal to John

  Lor:

 yeeeah

and I can't decide who I feel worse for and I just circle back to fuck John

 Mace:

 YUP

i feel awful for both of them

  Lor:

 YUP

and poor Dean is like let's just run away. which is SO NOT HIM. only for Sammy

 Mace:

 YES

he’s choosing flight because he’s so scared he won’t be able to save Sammy if they stay and fight

  Lor:

 YEP

and the idea that he could be faced with having to decide if he's gonna kill his brother

 Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 which is EXACTLY where they end up but not til season FIVE and just. One show should not luck into/stumble onto so many neat resonances like that. I mean, it's one thing if it was aaaaalll planned beforehand but

 HA! this fakeout

 Mace:

 snork! agreed

 and YES to the fakeout!

  Lor:

 I love the idea of Dean just absolutely making the road house phone ring off the hook

 Mace:

 yep

  Lor:

 oh, never mind about that drama we stirred up a few eps ago...

 Mace:

 SNORK!

 god, Sam can do the hurt puppy look so well

 Lor:

 he really REALLY can

 ha! Supermassive Black Hole

is that the most recent song that's ever on the show?

 Mace:

 no idea but possibly

  Lor:

 I mean, I don't either, but it jumped out to me as having been recorded, like, after they were born

 Mace:

 snork!

  Lor:

 DANG Sam is good at this getting people to talk bit

 Mace:

 he SO IS

 UGH I hate that they make us kind of love this girl now

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 hahahahaha I love someone else giving a Winchester the “there's weird shit” speech

 Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 lolol her delivery on "one of who?" I love it

 Mace:

 YES

and it’s hilarious that she thinks Sam’s nuts instead of believing that they’re alike

  Lor:

 LOL YEP

 Mace:

 “your weirdo ass” HAHAHA

  Lor:

 his weirdo ass would help you address those invitations

 LOL

 Mace:

 HE WOULD

he’s such a sweetheart

  Lor:

 YES

 omg poprocks and coke

 Mace:

 YAS

  Lor:

 "thank god you're okay"

 Mace:

 OMG DEAN “Sam you sly dog"

  Lor:

 LOLOLOL YES

 Mace:

 oh god I JUMPED at the shot

  Lor:

 ME TOO

 Mace:

 what a dummy

 HAHAHA

  Lor:

 I FORGOT about this part. I mean I remember about the later stuff in this ep with Gordon, but

 "you'd do that to my brother?" pets him

 Mace:

 I even remembered it was coming but STILL jumped

 YES

  Lor:

 lol

 Mace:

 “DUDE. WHO ARE YOU"

  Lor:

 her gesture and the little noise!

 "I watch a lot of TJ Hooker" omg what a thing to pull out

 Mace:

 I love that he calls Dean when he realizes he needs him no hesitation

  Lor:

 YES

 FUNKY TOWN

 Mace:

 YAS

  Lor:

 "he thought of it"

 Mace:

 of course he did no question

  Lor:

 "sorry I shouldn't laugh"

 Mace:

 snork!

  Lor:

 oof the look on Dean's face

 Mace:

 YES

 “doesn’t matter. it’s my brother"

  Lor:

 YES

 I love him so much I'd definitely, you know, call 911 if he got bad hurt or anything...

 Mace:

 HAHAHA

  Lor:

 species, Gordon

 Mace:

 do NOT call him Sammy, Gordon

  Lor:

 RIGHT?

 HOW much do I wish they'd made either Gordon or Victor a recurring GOOD GUY (I'd have preferred Victor, but whatever)

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

  Lor:

 cause honestly Sterling K. Brown does an AMAZING job here

 Mace:

 he does

  Lor:

 god that silohoutte

silouhette

FUCK IT

 Mace:

 HAAAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

 yes, Dean has the best silo hoot I’ve ever seen

  Lor:

 LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

 the way he's pushing all Dean's buttons and it's working

 Mace:

 yeah

 and Jensen is PLAYING this scene

  Lor:

 YES

his microexpressions and body language is just spot on

 Mace:

 YEP

 of course Gordon aligns with John

  Lor:

 that makes John a horrible person, GORDON

 Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 oooof Dean

 Mace:

 right?!

  Lor:

 god that scene. kills me

 Mace:

 YEP

  Lor:

 haaaaahahahahaha and they've faked us out again

I LOVE IT

 Mace:

 YES

 don’t worry, Gordo, he’ll circle back round and get you later

  Lor:

 HA yep

 "it's Sam"

 Mace:

 YAS

  Lor:

 the way Dean shakes his arms cause he wants out of the ropes

 Mace:

 YES

  Lor:

 the WAY HE LOOKS AT HIM AND THEN IS READY TO GO MURDER GORDON

 Mace:

 YAS

 Gordon calls himself a hunter and then holds his gun sideways like an idiot

  Lor:

 HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yep

 so this is very clever of Sammy but I really hate watching this scene

 Mace:

 YUP

I both revel that Gordon is getting his but am super uncomfortable with the idea of just how much he’s gonna get

  Lor:

 YEP

and just that image of the police cars swarming on a black man. just, we could not

 Mace:

 the worried look on Dean’s face when he realizes that now he has to worry about hunters too

  Lor:

 oooo that fog/mist coming out of the woods onto the road

 Mace:

 AGREED

  Lor:

 THAT'S NOT FUNNY, DEAN

 YEP

 Mace:

 “screw the job” Oh DEAN

  Lor:

 "I'm sick of the job anyway"

maybe in, oh, 14 years or so you should settle down with your very own angel, Dean

 Mace:

 HAHAHA YES

  Lor:

 "are you sweet on her?" that's kind of an adorable way to put that. and... old fashioned?

 Mace:

 it really is

 Dean doesn’t look a bit surprised

  Lor:

 he does not

 no, Sam, that's a ring

 Mace:

 snork!

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Devil’s Trap

Welcome to “Wooof, It Stinks Like Daddy Issues in Here: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e22: Devil’s Trap

 Meg calls Dean to gloat that she’s captured John. The boys go to Bobby, an old family friend, for help. (We squee.) Bobby explains that demonic possessions are way up (that’s bad) and helps them snare Meg in a devil’s trap. They torture Meg for info on John, and in the process discover that Meg is a human possessed by a demon. They exorcise her but can’t save the human Meg. Sam and Dean proceed to rescue John from the other demons. Eventually Dean realizes that John has been possessed since they rescued him (because he’s BEING TOO NICE), and a fraught showdown ensues. In the fight, Dean is badly injured by possessed John, and the episode draws to a close with Sam and exorcised!John arguing about their next move—go straight after the demon or get Dean medical help. Then: whammo! The Impala is T’ed by a semi.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

 oh right. pre Carry On My Wayward Son

  Mace:

 Ha! Yep

 Cripes, the Previously Ons are half the episode this time

 Lor:

 right?

 Mace:

 the quaver in Dean's voice when he says "they've got Dad"

 Lor:

 YES

I was just gonna say that

  Mace:

 "listen tough guy" DEAN

 Lor:

 LOL

 this episode. the stuff with Dean and John what isn't actually John. just kills me

 Mace:

 YUP

and how he knows it's not actually John is such a gut punch

 Lor:

 YES

 oh boys

  Mace:

 yeah. let the 14-some-odd-seasons of fraught begin.

 Lor:

 YEP

  Mace:

 BOBBY

 Lor:

 BOOOOBBBY

  Mace:

 HAHAHA

 lookit his cute little curls in his hair in the back

 Lor:

 YES

 I LOVE that the last time Bobby saw John he threatened to shoot him

  Mace:

 he's been on screen for a whole 30 seconds and he's already 1000% times a better father figure than John

 Lor:

 CORRECT

He's treating them like adult humans he has affection for, so

  Mace:

 YAS

 while John fannies about with his Colt and his over-developed sense of vengeance...

 Lor:

 YEP

 poor Rumsfeld

  Mace:

 his dog's name is Rumsfeld OMG

 Lor:

 lololol

  Mace:

 (for the record that was a mix of quotes from Bridget Jones and Princess Bride. I am impressed with myself, to be honest)

 Lor:

 (lolololol)

  Mace:

 Dean's "gotcha" nnnggg

 Lor:

 YAAAAAS

 whatever that little thing he did with his lip there.... mrrrrf

  Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 I want to know if John knows this and didn't tell them or if he's just too dumb

  Mace:

 again, Bobby is a much better dad to them - he doesn't yell at them or make Dean feel like he's an idiot for not knowing about how possession works. he just calmly explains it

 Lor:

 YES

 oh Dean, baby, thinking he can march into hell

  Mace:

 not realizing that he...will...

 Lor:

 yeah

 "I LIED"

  Mace:

 I'm...not sure why Sam is uncomfortable with this. I mean. Demon.

 Lor:

 is he uncomfortable or does he just think they can still use her?

  Mace:

 he seems troubled to me

 Lor:

 yeah, he did then when he went back to it

  Mace:

 always with the water and blankets

  Mace:

 like they're some sort of miracle cure-all

 Lor:

 LOL

 (if they are willing to call 911 here, for a girl who is broken to bits and they have NO explanation for why, there is NO WAY Sam could not have called 911 for Dean in the finale)

  Mace:

 (RIGHT?!?!)

 Lor:

 at least the blankets might help if she's going into shock

 the water is probably a terrible idea

  Mace:

 snork

 Lor:

 don't introduce stuff into a broken system!

 John should have lived so they could bring him round to Bobby's and then the first time he said shit to one of them, Bobby could have decked him

  Mace:

 omg the way Sam twirls the pen I CANNOT

 Lor:

 we deserved to see it

  Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 YES

 lololol Dean

  Mace:

 Ha! but Smarty Sammy!

 Lor:

 YES

 oh dEAN

  Mace:

 yeah

 sweet little kettle

 Lor:

 lolol YES

 he's so afraid of everyone dying and leaving him alone holds him

  Mace:

 yep

 "this sucks out loud"

 Lor:

 YES

 omg 2006

 7 minutes exactly?

  Mace:

 snork

 Lor:

 is that a thing? I don't think that's a thing

  Mace:

 yeah I have no idea

  Mace:

 a yorkie, Dean? really?

 Lor:

 "I got a Yorkie upstairs and he pees when he's nervous" OMG

 DEAN

pets him

  Mace:

 FIREFIGHTER OUTFITS

DED

 Lor:

 OMG

 he wanted to be a firefighter... because of his mom dying in a fire?

  Mace:

 I suspect it was before she died, when he was still a kid and was allowed to have When I Grow Up I Want To Be thoughts...

 Lor:

 mmm. that is certainly less heartbreaking

  Mace:

 post mom-on-ceiling John would never allow for such dreams.

 you're welcome.

 Lor:

 lol. thanks

  Mace:

 hey, any time. s'what I'm here for.

 Lor:

 locking the door and the hatchet coming through it right after!

  Mace:

 yes! very The Shining

 is that Carson Daley?

 Lor:

 I have no idea

  Mace:

 (I was trying for a joke - he just looked like him)

 Lor:

 omg that shot of Dean with the joke

 Lor:

(SNORK sorry)

 Mace:

 DEAN WITH THE JOKE HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 GUN

 DAMMIT

 get outta my head, MACE

  Mace:

 braces self for THE SCENE

 Lor:

 ooof, yep

  Mace:

 "I'm trying to thank you here" Yes, DeanDean, bE GRACIOUS

 Lor:

 this scene where Dean pleads with possessed John not to let the demon kill him? that lived in my head from the moment I saw it 2006 all the way up till we started watching it 2019

  Mace:

 ooof

 Lor:

 "for you or dad, the things I'm willing to do or kill... it scares me sometimes" THAT'S IT THAT'S THE SHOW

  Mace:

 "you're not mad?" sounds of my heart breaking

 YUP

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 my god he looks so confused at the praise from John

 FUUUUCKKK YOU JOHN

 Lor:

 UG. the way it's telling him what he's wanted to hear from his Dad since he was five

 RIGHT?

  Mace:

 "he'd be furious"

oh DEAN WINCHESTER YOU SWEET SAD THING

 Lor:

 "he wouldn't be proud of me. he'd tear me a new one"

SOMEONE HOLD HIM

  Mace:

 Ha! Sammy's "what the hell"

 Lor:

 lol

 Sam's "Dean, how do you know?" it's a genuine question, not, like, an accusation

  Mace:

 SAM CHOOSES DEAN YAS I LOVE YOU SAMMY

 Lor:

 YES

 Jeffrey Dean Morgan is so good here

  Mace:

 HE IS

 Lor:

 I mean, it's not like John hasn't metaphorically been tearing Dean apart for 24 years

  Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 okay they used that "oh that's right" joke twice in one episode. come on, guys.

 Lor:

 seriously

 he just put his finger on so much of Dean. hiding behind the humor.

  Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

 the way the demon is literally just speaking the truth

  Mace:

 i love that trope of the bad guy speaking awful truth to the hero

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 SMARTY SAM

 Lor:

 YES

 ooo, and this is the first time someone who loves Dean overcomes possession in order to not hurt him

  Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

 omg the dual begging of Sam

  Mace:

 YES

  this is one of my favorite season endings

 Lor:

 YES

  Mace:

 so BLAMMO good

 HA! I still jump every time!

 Lor:

 YES

 "no sir, not everything" and then Sam looking in the rearview at Dean

  Mace:

 YES

 poor Baby

 Lor:

 right?

She gets banged up SO many times

  Mace:

 she does

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Everybody Loves a Clown

Welcome to “Something Winchester This Way Comes: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s2,e2: Everybody Loves a Clown

 The boys are hanging out at Bobby’s, reeling from John’s death. Dean buries himself in fixing Baby, while Sam tries to get him to open up about his grief. When they discover an old voicemail on John’s phone from someone called Ellen, they head off to find her and discover she runs a roadhouse with her daughter Jo where hunters tend to hang out. She puts them on the case of a carnival with a carnivorous clown, and off they go. Once they take care of the clown (poor Sammy), it’s back to Bobby’s, more emotional wrangling, and Dean ends up taking a crowbar to Baby (and so essentially also to himself and therefore to our hearts.)

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here. Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

[and we begin:]

  Lor:

 god the LOOK on Dean's face when John pulls away after telling him

 Mace:

 right?

 UGH

CREEPY CLOWN

Lor:

 yeeah, I hate the creepy clowns ones

except I love them because poor Sammy

 this kid looks so much like the child of one of my high school friends. it is uncanny

 Mace:

 ha! weird

 I kind of love the detail that the kiddo isn't actually scared of the clown at all

 Lor:

 yeah

that is a really neat touch

 oooof Sammy crying and Dean just staring blankly ahead

 Mace:

 Right?! Somebody hug them both so tight

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 watch out, Dean, your pants are on fire

 Lor:

 SNORK

 OH JEEZ

it's the mechanic Dean bit

THUD

 Mace:

 LEGS POKING OUT THE BOTTOM OF THE CAR

the red rag in the back pocket

falls down ded

 Lor:

 the little ROLL

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 also, not to be missed: Sam's polo over a tshirt

 Mace:

 YES

and the shaggy hair with the little curly flip

 Lor:

 YES

 the grease on DEAN

 Mace:

 YAS

 the little cut on the bridge of Sammy's nose

 Lor:

 YES

and his STUPID ADORABLE single gel bracelet

 Mace:

 YES

 and how that stupid tshirt hangs perfectly on Dean's stupid frame

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 Bobby ABSOLUTELY gave them that van bc he was tired of Dean being a prickly mope

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHA YAAASSS BOBBY

(And Dean would make a GREAT soccer mom. And he knows it.)

 Lor:

 (YEAH HE WOULD)

 (also the bit before about him and Sam hugging? YES YOU TWO SHOULD DO THAT.)

 "naw I’m just real happy to see you"

 Mace:

 (YES)

 "I need some help in here"

HAHAHAHA

 Lor:

 Dean being all smarty and then Jo just clocking him. I LOVE IT

 Mace:

 I wish I liked these women better than I do, but I just...don't

 Lor:

 agreed

I like Ellen okayish. sometimes. Jo is the best right there. all downhill from here

 Mace:

 Yep

but I can't put my finger on what's wrong with their characters? We get so few strong women in this show, but something's just missing with these two

 Lor:

 yeah

it's like they are too conscious of making them strong, maybe?

 Mace:

 I think that's getting to it

they're caricatures of strong women?

 something like that

 Lor:

 like neither of them hold a candle to Missouri or Jody or Donna or Charlie or Rowena or even Mildred

 Mace:

 yep

 Ash, on the other hand, is PERFECT

 Lor:

 YES

and whatever Dean is doing here interacting with him is...flirting? or something?

I’m not going to hang anything on Ash/Dean, but like, they have more chemistry than Dean and Jo

  “51 hours”

 Mace:

 well he's already made a "I know what it's like to have a penis poking me from behind" joke in this scene...

 Lor:

 LOLOLOLOL

and he stops him from leaving just to tell him he likes the hair? which is supposed to be a dig but... isn't?

(which is how Dean operates, it's not new, but)

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

 THAT HENLEY

 Mace:

 YAS

 no one actually wants in your pants, Jo, cool your jets

 Lor:

 SNORK

look, if Dean Winchester wants to get me pizza and play some Zepp for me, I’m good

 Mace:

 RIGHT?!

 Lor:

 "PLANES CRASH"

oh Dean

 Mace:

 "AND APPARENTLY CLOWNS KILL"

 Lor:

 yaaas

 Mace:

 Just having finished Something Wicked This Way Comes, this is extra-creepy

 Lor:

 oooo

I SAW you really liked that

 Mace:

 Bradbury can do no wrong

 Lor:

 weirdly, I snared myself a copy thinking I might read it right around Halloween and then didn't. I should read it, huh?

 Mace:

 you absolutely should

 Lor:

 cool 

adds it to a teetering pile next to the couch

 Mace:

 excellent!

 Lor:

CLOWNS ARE NOT YOUR FRIENDS

 Mace:

 DO NOT tell your child that a group of people generally are your friends

 Lor:

 what the ACTUAL heckles, dude? I mean, even if you don't want your kid to be afraid of them, WHAT?

 Mace:

 JFC

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 serves him right. I mean, clowns are your friends

 Mace:

 HAAAHAHAHA

YES

 HAHAHA poor Sam

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 omg the curled lip look Sam gives Dean

 Lor:

 YES

 also, how much do I love Sam and Dean working at a carnival? the outsider stuff just INHERENT in it

 Mace:

 YAS

and they don't even belong THERE

 doubly outside

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 omg Dean

 Sam's "not really"

 Mace:

 MR. COOPER

that's the name of one of the carnival characters in the Bradbury

 Lor:

 oh COOL

 omg Sammy's laugh

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

 "Nope"

 Mace:

 "NOPE" omg Dean

 I'm sorry, but a grown man calling his father "Daddy" is skeezy

 Lor:

 ah. I am inoculated against this I think. South

 Mace:

 "live regular" OMG

 Lor:

 this dude telling Sam and Dean to live regular

 YES

 Mace:

 that's so heartbreaking

 Lor:

 YEP

 Mace:

 the cautious hope in Dean's voice here

 Lor:

 yeah

 oh boys

both of them are just giant bundles of conflicted feelings about everything here

Does Dean want Sam to go back to school or stay? Is he mad about what Sam wants, whatever it is? What DOES Sam want?

 Mace:

 oh sure, just here. only here.

 Lor:

 lololol

yep. only here

the rest of the time they know precisely what they want

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

 DEAN WINCHESTER

 Mace:

 I sort of think part of Dean's anger here is at himself for being so vulnerable at what Sam's decision will be

 Lor:

 YEP

 "skeleton, actually"

 "I was just sweepin"

 Mace:

 "we don't like outsiders"

 Lor:

 YES

 their little red windbreakers

 Mace:

 HOW do they look so good in those stupid windbreakers?

 Mace:

 OMG LOR

 Lor:

 MACE

I love it when we do that

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

 of COURSE they had some sort of falling out it was JOHN

 correct, Sammy

 Mace:

 YAS SAMMY

"this strong silent thing it's crap"

SING IT SAMMY

 Lor:

 but Mace, HE'S FINE

 Mace:

 oh DEAN NOPE BACK OFF

 Lor:

 yeeeah

 Mace:

 Now he's done it. Now Sammy's really mad

 Lor:

 they both need a minute

 OMG THE CHEWING ON HIS FINGERS

 Mace:

 Dean needs a minute in the time-out corner

 Lor:

 I'll uh tell him

 Mace:

 oh sure

 Sam's little smile

THUD

 Lor:

 YES

 and the two of them walking along an empty road carrying all their stuff

I love it

 Mace:

 YES

 UGH THE WAY HIS FACE CHANGES

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

so creepy

 it's a maze, just like their feeeelings

 Mace:

 HAHAHAHAHA OMG

 dude, Sammy, they're steaming so they're probably HOT

 Lor:

 LOLOL

 Mace:

 SMARTY DEAN

 Lor:

 YAS

 "I hate funhouses" CORRECT

 Mace:

 yup

 Lor:

 no he wouldn't Ellen and you know it

 Mace:

 yeah

 "Clowns?! What the..."

HAHAHA

 Lor:

 so I DO believe that Dean is afraid of Ellen, but also. that is not why, Dean. you're just not in the mood. that's okay, baby

 Lor:

 lololol

 Mace:

 agreed. and Jo isn't really his type

 Lor:

 nope

 "it's a school in Boston"

 Mace:

 YAS ASH

 Lor:

 YES

 Lor:

 and Dean's little grin. you're right, Dean, Ash is more interesting than Jo

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

 oh GAWD it's the kneeling and the biceps

 Mace:

 aaand we're back with the greasy tshirt THUD

 YAS

 Lor:

 YAAAS

 Mace:

 oh Sammy

OH SAMMY

 Lor:

 yeah

 Mace:

 SOMEBODY HOLD HIM

 Lor:

 "and I'm not all right. not at all. but neither are you"

 YES

 Mace:

 YOU TELL HIM SAM

 Lor:

 someone just WRAP THEM UP

 Mace:

 and here it comes

 Lor:

 oh DEAN

 Mace:

 Baby's condition = Dean's condition

Always

 Lor:

 this kills me, him wailing on Baby

 Lor:

 YEP

and it's like he's hammering on himself

 Mace:

 yep

 Lor:

 the lip tremble

jeeebus

 Mace:

 yep

  he needs an angel in a trenchcoat to come and fix him up

 Lor:

 HE DOES

 [after the episode ended:]

 Lor:

 is this one of the longest times we see them with persistent visible injuries?

  Mace:

 i suspect so, yes

 Lor:

 their faces are both very clearly banged up and it lasts a long time

 Mace:

 yes!

 Lor:

 I just love that detail so much, where they only stay injured if it matters

 Mace:

 YES

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Dead Man’s Blood

Welcome to “Machete Size Apparently Matters: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e20: Dead Man’s Blood

 An old hunter is attacked and killed by a group of vampires. When Sam and Dean go to investigate, they run into John, who shares that the vamps stole an old Colt from the hunter that can kill “anything.” The boys and John team up (not without some serious friction) to try to clear out the vamp nest and steal the gun. John thinks the Colt is finally the answer to how to kill the demon who killed Mary. Bring a machete because there’s lots of fraught to hack through in this one. Plus, it’s handy for beheading vampires.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Lor:

 grrrrrr

 Mace:

 ugh, I have an actual, visceral reaction when Sam calls him Sir.

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

Mace:

 How fun would it have been to be in the prop dept and help make those hunting journals?!

 Lor:

 YES

 Mace:

 If we ever cosplay the boys together, we NEED to make one

 Lor:

 OMG

that would be SO COOL

 Mace:

 YES

 Lor:

 Dean and his newspaper

 Mace:

 YES

 "boys, we're eating in tonight" if any vampire actually said that, the others would sooo make fun of them, honestly

 Lor:

hahahaha right?

 Mace:

 Aw, Dean wants Sammy to have a girlfriend

 Lor:

 yeah

 "or oops I spilled the popcorn salt"

 Mace:

 HA!

...

now I want popcorn

 Lor:

 LOLOLOLOL

YEP

 do they keep Elkins's journal? I don't think anyone ever mentions it again, but jeez, take that with you

 Mace:

 Oooh, excellent question! I don't know. Maybe there's a CODE and you don't touch another man's journal unless he says it's okay...

 Lor:

 oooo maybe

 Mace:

 SMARTY DEAN MAKING A SQUEEZE

 Lor:

 god, Dean pressing the paper down into the blood so it doesn't move

 Mace:

 yep

 FUCK YOU JOHN

 Lor:

 FUCK OFF, JOHN, jeeeeesus

 Mace:

 Sammy smells the bullshit that John came for this dead friend but keeps away from his own sons

 Lor:

 YEP

 apparently he didn't teach you not to knock on the window like that and scare the crap out of your kids

 Mace:

 YEP

 Aha! John isn't there because of his dead friend but for the fucking gun

 Lor:

 YEP

 Mace:

 I forget that they've not encountered vampires yet

 Lor:

 he THouGhT tHeY wERe EXtinCT

 yeah

 Mace:

  (Buffy would kick John's ass so hard)

 Lor:

 I feel like he isn't even that good at his job

 (YES)

 Mace:

 NOPE

I mean, there's no evidence that he is. He's well known to demons not for his own sake but because of his sons

 Lor:

 yeah

 Mace:

 Makes Dean's worship of him that much more tragically skewed

 Lor:

 I think maybe some people say he is? but also he seems to have had a falling out with... everyone

 yeah

 Mace:

 OHO, don't question dad, Sammy

FUUUUUCK YOU JOHN

 Lor:

 and the way he doesn't tell them ANYTHING

 Mace:

 YEP

 you know, I kind of love this idea now, that John actually isn't anything special at all.

 Lor:

 god he does things to make them feel SMALL. i HATE him

 Mace:

 OH FUCK YOU SO HARD JOHN DO NOT TALK ABOUT BABY LIKE THAT

 Lor:

 ooo YES

 Mace:

 YESYESYES

 Lor:

 RIGHT?

 Dean loves that car like it is HIMSELF don't be such a JERK

 oh, Sam is driving

 Mace:

 Sam is the chosen one for the yellow eyed war, Dean is chosen by Chuck, ffs. They're the ones that matter. John is in fact nothing. and maybe he senses that and it bothers him

 Lor:

 ooooo

 Mace:

 oh submissive DEAN

 Lor:

 YEP

 do you hear that, John? revenge isn't worth much if you end up dead

OR YOUR KIDS DO

 Mace:

 YUP

 Ooooh, angry Sammy

I LOVE IT

 Lor:

 YES

 poor Dean, getting between them

 Mace:

 yeah

 "and I said no" YAS SAMMY

 Lor:

 YAAAS

 Mace:

 but poor Dean saying "stop it, both of you"

 Lor:

 yeah

 oh Dean. I just want to wrap him in blankets. this isn't supposed to be your job, baby

 Mace:

 yeah

 vampires just shouldn't be skanky

 it's wrong

 Lor:

 no

like, they are immortal, why are they living in a crap barn being crappy?

 Mace:

 right?!

 Lor:

 FUCK YOU JOHN. FUCK YOU AND YOUR BIGGER MACHETE

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

 so I will never watch it again, so I'll never know I guess, but is the barn in 327 supposed to be this barn?

 Mace:

 no idea

stupid 327

WHO CARES

 Lor:

 i suppose knowing where they're both set would help

but that's Jenny, right? the woman they turned?

 Mace:

 yeah? is she in the last ep? I have blocked most of it from memory

 Lor:

 yeah, she's the like head vampire of the nest they're fighting in that one

 Mace:

 ah

 "you gotta understand something: I'm a raging douchebag."

 Lor:

 HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 you became their abuser

 Mace:

 YUP

 Lor:

 it never occurred to him what Sam wanted? JESUS

 Mace:

 yeah

 my god, Jared has a gorgeous smile

 Lor:

 YES

 I do love that they frame Sam as the one who is like John

 Mace:

 yeah that's clever

 Lor:

 "you know what to do" and then cut to Dean as bait

I HATE HIM

 Mace:

 YEP

 Lor:

 and it's sexualized too

 Mace:

 of course it is

 Lor:

 YES DEAN

 omg the way his voice breaks

 Mace:

 YAS

 Lor:

 the way Sam yells at John and Dean pleads with him

 Mace:

 yeah

 Lor:

 that's probably personality difference, but I wonder if it's also partly bc Dean remembers when John wasn't like this

 Mace:

 hm, maybe

i lean more toward personality

 Lor:

 yeah I think I do too, honestly

 I don't like the way he's dealing with these vampires either. like, it's almost cruel

the rope? using the feelings they have for each other against them? gross, John

 Mace:

 hm. yeah, but I think sam and dean do similar things, no?

we just hate John

 Lor:

 I am conveniently forgetting that fact

 Mace:

 Ha! I suspected as much

 Lor:

 lol

 Mace:

 oooh rebel Dean I LOVE IT

 Lor:

 "I am?"

 YES

 [after the episode ended]

Lor:

I feel like there was a lot of vampire lore in there they abandon after this ep

 Mace:

yeah? I can’t keep track

we really don’t see a lot of vampires

that one really old dude

and a couple of eps here and there

 Lor:

 yeah

The vamps’ eyes do a thing in this one I don’t think we see again? and that stuff about a vampire once getting your scent never leaving you alone. and the herbs stuff so they can’t smell you

yeah, they aren’t around super a lot

 Mace:

 ah yeah, I think you’re right about that

 Lor:

 but there’s the whole Gordon thing. and then that nest Dean is a part of for a hot second in S6

 Mace:

 Oh I forgot about that

and BENNY HOW COULD I FORGET BENNY

 Lor:

  Mace:

 I’m so sorry, teddy bear. hold it against me

 Lor:

 HAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[watchingspnagain]

Rewatching Scarecrow

Welcome to “Apple Pies and Fugly Guys: A Supernatural Rewatch Blog” with Lor and Mace!

 Up today, s1e11: Scarecrow

  Sam and Dean take on a Norse myth/Jeepers Creepers mash-up in one of SPN's best and spookiest early episodes. A small town of a-holes charm a young couple every year and then feed them to the local apple orchard scarecrow god in exchange for general prosperity for the residents. Sam and Dean have a fight over John and his orders (shocking), and they break up for the first time, Sammy walking off in a huff toward California and John and Dean driving off in a tizzy toward Creepy Town. Dean saves this year's couple, but brings down the wrath of the townspeople on his own head and gets himself and a local young woman tied to a couple of apple trees instead. Meanwhile Sammy meets Meg for the first time (sigh) and almost follows her to California, but he gets the Brotherly Worries when Dean won't answer his phone and heads back to save Dean's butt. The locals get theirs in the end, the scarecrow gets his sacred tree charred, and the Cigarette Smoking Man gets away scot free, as per usual.

 Below is a log of our real-time reactions as we watched. Remember that there may be spoilers for any part of SPN’s 15-season run here.  Note also that the nature of our conversation is adult and thus it may contain adult language and themes.

 [and we begin:]

 Mace:

Oooh, I love this one. It's one of the scariest for me, but it really feels like an old-school horror movie and I LOVE that.

 Lor:

YES

 Mace:

(and by old-school I mean 80s horror movies)

 Lor:

this was a VERY behind-the-couch one the first time. I handle it a little better now, but

 Mace:

I still get a little watch-through-my-fingers when the scarecrow is around

very Jeepers Creepers

Lor:

so the moral of SPN is that when your idiot boyfriend tries to get you to go somewhere freaky, you SHOULD FOLLOW YOUR INITIAL INSTINCT NOT TO

 Mace:

YEP

tl;dr: boyfriends are dumb

 Lor:

LOL

ug it is SO CREEPY

 Mace:

SO CREEPY

 Lor:

is the grainy picture on purpose, or just 2005?

because it is EFFECTIVE

 Mace:

(I'm on my laptop and I've made the window smallish, so I can't tell)

 Lor:

(ah)

 Mace:

and the orchard setting feels so remote and enclosed

 Lor:

YEP

aaaaaah, the shot of the empty stand for the scarecrow

  Mace:

Ugh, fuck you, John

 Lor:

UG

 Mace:

"are you hurt?" read: because if you're not FUCK YOU, DAD

 Lor:

YOU SON OF A BITCH

RIGHT?

 Mace:

Dean is UNHAPPY that he's not the one on the phone call

 Lor:

RIGHT?

Dean's "gimme the phone" and the hand

HIS FACE

 Mace:

Dean, put your hand down, buddy

DEAN

don't be grab-handsy

 Lor:

yeah, the grabby thing is annoying but god the CHARACTERIZATION

 Lor:

the "yes, sir" omg. SOMEONE GIVE THAT BOY SOME LOVE

 Mace:

YES and someone punch John in the throat pls

 Lor:

I nominate Cas

to throat punch John

 Mace:

well, I would argue that this obsessive hero worship of John is, in fact, super annoying

 Lor:

yeah, it is. but my "hold him" instinct overrides it. because I am DUMB

 Mace:

well, he's also HOT, so you get a pass

 Lor:

SNORK

oh good

 Lor:

oooo, Sam does NOT want to hear about how John is a master right now

 Mace:

YES

"he's given us an order" "I DON'T CARE" BOYS

(also, Team Sammy)

 Mace:

"it's called being a good son" oh, whoa, back that shit up, Dean

 Lor:

yeeeeah, they are doing the fraught dance again

 Mace:

oh right, this is when they break up for the first time

 Lor:

yep

 Mace:

Ooof, Sam telling him that's what he wants him to do and the look Dean gives him because Dean wants to be wanted

 Lor:

oooof, these two knuckleheads

 Mace:

YEP

 Lor:

YEEEEES

can't say they don't know how to hurt each other

 Mace:

exactly

history of cell phones, part 48795

 Lor:

haaaahahahahaha

I need a fanfic that explores who all of those contacts are

 Mace:

ha!

omg he gets called out on the stupid fake name!

 Lor:

YES

he should know better than to do that with a man of that generation, come on

 Mace:

snork

omg the snark

 Lor:

oh DEAN

I love him

 Mace:

oh UGH

 Lor:

oh it's MEG

... great

 Mace:

I forgot Meg was in this one

so Sammy clearly has nothing in that satchel

 Lor:

LOLOLOL

nice camo backpack, Sammy

 Mace:

what backpack

HAHAHAHA I'M HILARIOUS

 Lor:

lolololololol

 Mace:

Dean, you leave that meter on all the time, your batteries aren't gonna last long

 Lor:

SNORK

is okay, he shoplifted a new pack from that store

 Mace:

snork

 Lor:

how did that town not just adopt poor, adorable little Dean? I mean, creepy pagan god shit aside

 Mace:

well, that girl is gonna want to see more of him

 Lor:

of course she is

 Mace:

Dean, get away from the clearly evil scarecrow

 Lor:

"dude, you fugly"

 Mace:

AND DON'T CALL HIM FUGLY TO HIS FACE

Cripes

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

 Mace:

YOU PUT THAT LADDER BACK RIGHT NOW, MISTER

STOOOOOPPPP

 Lor:

man, now I want an apple

 Mace:

and I want an apple pie

 Mace:

gotta think bigger, Lor

 Lor:

LOL

 Lor:

STEAL HIS HAT

 Mace:

Dude, don't egg him on!

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOL

I enjoy our differing reactions to this

 Mace:

HA! YES

 Lor:

SHE KNOWS WHERE THE GAS TANK IS ON A 67 IMPALA

 Mace:

HA!

"oh there is - buy a car" THE SASS

 Lor:

"buy a car" YAAAAAS

"Jerry (pager)"

tell me this episode is 15 years old without telling me this episode is 15 years old

 Mace:

HAHAHAHA

yeah, no one's named Jerry anymore

 Lor:

LOLOLOLOLOLOL MACE

PIE

 Mace:

snork

YAS

omg Dean's face smile is SO GOOFY I LOVE IT

 Lor:

HE IS SO BRIGHT AND CUTE it's nonsense

 Mace:

YES

 Lor:

the way he's gathering this info and just going "yeeeeeah, this is bad"

 Mace:

right?

 Lor:

he's trying to caretake them into saving their lives. adorable

 Mace:

omg and the mention of Sammy, who WOULD in fact be better at this

 Lor:

awww, the comment about Sam

YES

oh, Dean

he knows EXACTLY why the sheriff is there

 Mace:

YEP

 Lor:

poor baby outsider

 Mace:

Yeah

double so since he's the wrong kind of outsider here - the one who knows what the shakedown is - they only want normal people as outsiders in the weird town

 Lor:

oooo YES

Sammy. You are smarter than this

 Mace:

he's vulnerable right now!

 Lor:

yeah

maybe you all should have listened to the sunshine boy in the diner

 Mace:

snork!

hm, the scarecrow would actually be scarier if he didn't grunt

 Lor:

HA! yep

 Lor:

see, now sunshine boy has to run off the scarecrow with his shotgun

Dean gets to be the smarty!

 Mace:

oh come on, he called Bobby we both know it

 Lor:

you MALIGN smarty!Dean? you question his ability to research the lore?

 Mace:

oh he can but he prefers not to

oh DEAN, spit it out

 Lor:

yeah

that was a nice little speech

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

I have slept on a bus station floor. top 5 things I never want to do again

(there was NOT a Sam Winchester to hang out with)

 Mace:

(snork)

  Mace:

"who's that?" "what'd he say?" Bitch, you don't know him well enough for that

 Lor:

RIGHT?

 Mace:

omg Cigarette Smoking Man! I forget he's in here every time

 Lor:

LOL

mrrrg the ring and the bracelet

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

jeez. don't sucker punch our Dean with a rifle butt like that!

 Mace:

HA!

 Lor:

the way he refers to Dean as "the boy" jeez

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

oh, see, now you've pissed Dean off

ya don't mistreat women and you don't betray your family

 Mace:

Yep

 Lor:

shut up, Meg

 Mace:

oh, honey, he won't choose you over Dean

 Lor:

right?

"which is, I dunno, classier, I guess?"

 Mace:

snork!

 Lor:

this aunt and uncle are SO DISTURBING

 Mace:

they are, and quoting Spock like that? Out of bounds, lady

 Lor:

and they clearly haven't watched Star Trek IV enough

HAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 Mace:

"I'm working on it" HAHAHA

 Lor:

"I'm working on it"

oh Dean

 Mace:

"that's my boy" DEAN

 Lor:

YES

I've been wondering why he didn't just do that to get to CA

is it because he cares about Dean more than John? I'm gonna go with yes

 Mace:

well his moral threshold is higher than that

Dean means more to him than John by, like, a lot

 Lor:

yeah

 Mace:

"what scarecrow?" EEEEK

 Lor:

YES

serves you right Uncle Harvey or whatever

 Mace:

yep

I have about as much sympathy for the aunt and uncle here as I do for Umbridge with the centaurs

 Lor:

yeah

go Emily!

 Mace:

Yeah

 Lor:

the little wave

 Mace:

yeah

"and you're still a pain in the ass"

 Lor:

YES

 Lor:

"hold me, Sam. that was beautiful" you little jerk, deflecting emotions (I love you)

 Mace:

healthy, Dean, very healthy

way to show your emotions

 Lor:

LOL

this little bit here was the moment the first time through where I was like "oh shit this is getting like dark and yikes"

and now I'm like "oh, sweet summer child"

 Mace:

Ooof, yeah, me too, and it's hard to remember that now

 Lor:

yep