#wc brambleshade

[lunathegalacticwolf]

Here's my made up Warrior Cats clan, SeaClan. Ur welcome.

Information is in the description.

Feel free to share your own Warrior Cats clans with me if you want, idc.

[sillspore]

Same anon from the long post one.

I like the idea but some of seen too much (Don't think I hate you please 😭, a lot Wc fans can't handle criticism sometimes and go right to you thinking if someone criticizes them/or their art they must hate the person)

Maybe because just I'm bramblestar and squilf's fan, I could be bias but I wish Brambleshade is more than just a dick? I understand you hate him and that is fine but making his whole character as nothing but a character with all flaws (that what I got from reading your post, not trying to assume anything, don't change your AU just because I or anyone said so, it's your work do what you want) seem lame to me.

He is seem more to have nothing but flaws, I don't see him doing a lot of those. Him trying to exiling Squirrelflight seems something he won't do at all and have.Again no hate toward you, I think your AU could be nice to some people but not for me. Not because of you, it just seem every AU with Brambleclaw, he is same character over again.

He is either a evil, good for nothing cat who is only there to have power of three plot to happen or like I said before a man wife.

again no hate to you but the AU isn't for me but I can definitely see other people liking, maybe I would like more if you make a fanfic about it, who knows. Again I'm not saying cant have a bad/ a character you don't like befit anyone's view because it's your fanfic, all that. It's up to you.

It just seem repeat from every other AU about or around Bramnleclaw. I hope to see ur AU grow ever through I don't like some of plots in it ❤️ /ih

yeah, i understand lol! since i haven’t written anything, it’s just an outline, the characters may seem very shallow or one dimensional :) i do want to give brambleshade good qualities — in the beginning he IS good. firestar made him deputy, after all, so he must have seen leader qualities within brambleclaw. however, the intent behind this au is to add small things i like, and make canon work. a lot of plot threads and character choices in warriors are… weird, to say the least. the goal with brambleshade is to make his canon character work. in the new prophecy, he’s kind of annoying, but he’s a good guy. he’s noble, and strong, and caring. but he DOES act petty and rude to squilf after the reveal of the three’s heritage (which personally, i feel he’s within his rights to do, for the lies she led him on with), he DOES act like the three aren’t his kids after (which is so dumb to me), and he DOES use his power as a leader to set up situations to make squirrelflight look disrespectful or dumb. he puts her in dangerous situations, forces her to choose her morals over his orders (thinking of squirrelflight’s hope here), and punishes her for it.

listen, in my head, my brambleclaw is a good guy. he’s a good cat-husband, a good dad, and a good if somewhat bland leader. in my head, he’s goldenflower’s son and he acts like it. but if i put HIM in THIS au, sooo many plots simply wouldn’t happen. to match the flow of canon, i’d have to create new plots and villains and honestly? i don’t want to haha. i’m still in school, i don’t have a whole lot of time to dedicate to this. so, i’m sticking with mostly canon overarching plots and doing what i need to make it work. and in canon, bramblestar sucks. they make him cruel and vindictive and a horrible mate to squirrelflight, sometimes he outright constructs narratives to come up with reasons to be mad at her. it’s crazy. personally, i see it as them ruining him to create a new antagonist, but they refuse to make him a villain, so no one recognizes or checks his behavior. it’s so infuriating, i wish the authors would pick a characterization. stick with the intended brambleclaw and actions that make sense for him, or stick to him going “evil” and acting insane (aka how he acts in squirrelflight’s hope).

so, to make canon work, bramble is good, then “bad” (acting within reason, but the protags are his not-kids who he’s being rude to, so he’s perceived badly), then bad. he’s not meant to be evil, he isn’t ashfur or anything. but the story is meant to show that he is heartbroken, and emotionally vulnerable, and embraces a vindictive part of himself he’s never let air (which IS canon, his thought process on if he should kill firestar in sunset or not is genuinely disturbing lmao). then he gets his mate back. and THEN he is killed, possessed, mentally violated. this RUINS him. he is not mentally stable, and this allows for squirrelstar to happen. i can very well just kill him at the end of the broken code instead, it achieves the exact same result. if that’s what you guys prefer, that works for me :) the intent of bramblestar trying to exile squirrelflight for “betraying” him is to show how he’s degraded, kind of like bluestar in arc 1, and give way for the audience to see the new code rule (stripping a leader of their power) . that’s kind of what i meant by “you won’t like this if you like brambleclaw” lol. i dislike his canon character, but in my head hes just a little guy. he’s got great potential and i love him. but that has no place in this au, because conflict is NEEDED.

i hope this doesn’t come across as defensive !!! just trying to explain why i made the decisions i did :) i really appreciate your thoughts and you sending them to me! the entire point of me sharing this blog is to receive suggestions and criticisms.

my intent isn’t to make brambleclaw evil, just an antagonist. i like to imagine if i have him die before squilf gets her lives, like in the final battle of tbc (idk what he’d die to yet though, haven’t reread those books yet), he’d regain mental clarity in starclan and give her a life, for love. <3

[serpentstalecast]

Brambleshade, medicine cat of ThunderClan

The elderly medicine cat of ThunderClan, Brambleshade has been healing his clan since before Adderstar was leader. He is not grumpy like most of the elders, instead he is extremely gentle and considerate of others, especially his apprentice Sedgepaw. He takes the utmost care with all of his patients, and is well respected in his Clan. 

[sillspore]

Don't know if you need ideas or not. For power of three, I would definitely recommend Lionblaze and Breezepelt (?) being brambleshade and squirrelflight's kits while jayfeather and Hollyleaf are Crow/leaf or Leaf/moth. It would make more sense, for him to fall for the lie with squirrel being pregnant, she could actually have milk etc.

This can cause bramblebutt to make less mad, and maybe more understanding? Idk

actually, (so far, according to the family tree i put together) i think that’s what i’m doing with hollyleaf! obv if i follow the family tree i made, the story would be slightly different because bramblesquirrel does not happen. hollyleaf and breezepelt would be squirrelcrow kits, squirrelflight taking hollyleaf to tc and crow taking breezepelt to wc. in this situation, i probably would have leafpool give birth in secret and give squirrel her kits, jay and lion, and the third she had (oh?) who died a couple days later. the “finding out” would go the same — hollyleaf is still half clan, but she’s also only her brother’s cousins, she was never part of the three, never even close. so her decline would go about the same.

i don’t know which story i’ll go with, but i’m playing around with both of them to see which is more interesting!