#why did they put them together its so?? theyre so different from each other 😭

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Man, zhu bajie n tang sanzang had to b up there w swk about their mischaracterization n hated in lmk fandom

I have never seen so much mishandling as i seen with those three characters 😭😭(like bro i get that the most noticeable arc that ppl retain is the white bone spirit arc bc of OSP BUT THEY DIDNT STUCK TO THAT CHARACTERISTICS IN THE LATER ARCS LIKE CMON NOW—bajie couldn’t even lie about the dragon piss medicine in a later arc, what makes yall think he’s always a fantastic liar. Theres some benefit to his lying but they also backfire. BAJIE DO END UP LIKING EVERYONE LIKE HE REFER TO SWK AS ELDER BROTHER!<- no man could ever live up to the wonder of zhu wuneng. He just sweet n he does get a fantastic arc in the novel!

Tang sanzang does have some(albeit rare moments where hes nice but his asshoole moments sometimes intertwined) where hes like “yea my disciples r greats but theyre mad ugly.” Or that he gets better at having more trust in his disciples besides zhu wuneng. Even if its followed by hella traumatizing moments that no human person would remain sane like that. <hes just barely holding on by his faith, his mission and his disciples. Not his horse bc he cant hold on to save his life but that character arc where he DIDNT FELL OFF THOO!>

Monkie Kid spoilers below

Hmmm I know about the Sun Wukong & Tang Sanzang dunking but is that happening with Zhu Bajie too? Have to say I find that a little surprising given that (if memory serves correctly) Monkie Kid did say Zhu Bajie's main fault (well besides the whole being a man-eating yaoguai thing) was being stubborn, but then lego Patriarch Subodhi said he became one of the hardest workers of the pilgrimage. I guess I was under the impression that people were more light on their criticisms and thoughts about Zhu Bajie, but maybe that's just because he doesn't seem to be a point of great interest in the lego show fandom lol.

Kind of funny story anon but I've been vicariously growing in awareness on how much Zhu Bajie is loved in China through @antidotefortheawkward's posts about the pigman. And yeah, I can see that being in large part because Xiyouji in its totality does give a very different impression of who these characters are and where they end up than a cartoony summary can provide. As a number of people on this site have noted for example, the White Bone Demon Arc can be understood in a much more complex light than "Tang Sanzang & Zhu Bajie hurt poor monkey for nothing" when placed in the context of it being more near the beginning of the journey when the pilgrims were still grating against each other a lot & it happening very soon after the whole debacle with the Ginseng fruit tree. Here after all you can see how the monk has a recent history of getting into serious trouble from the monkey lying and being quick to destruction, so he would be primed to not believe SWK, not to mention he does hesitate to use the headband against SWK more than many give him credit for here. And YEAH given all the things they go through together I am more willing to accept a Sun Wukong and Zhu Bajie enemies to friends arc than that put on many another character.

Also LMAOOOOO Tang Sanzang DOES seem to have quite a few lines where he tries to comfort terrified individuals by telling them that the pilgrims are good people even with their rancid looks (ugly pilgrim rights <3). And oh dang anon you are so right about how even if Tang Sanzang is much more of a static character in comparison to SWK it's kind of a shame more attention isn't given to the series of horrifying events he goes through and what effect that would have on him so that he gets a little more depth than "weepy monk who's mean to the Monkey King & falls off his dragon horse" in the popular western imagination. But then again I can understand why the monk's trauma is largely downplayed in western cartoony retellings, given that said lighthearted cartoony retellings probably wouldn't be the best medium to even touch on stuff like human butchery, death threats, sexual assault, and the consequences thereof.

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i did finish the fic!!!! gave me the like “omg what do i even do with these feelings now” hahaha it really is such a masterpiece!

the character foils were everything!!! obviously pierre and esteban at the core but even the relationship of pierre and charles compared to his with esteban, pierres career compared to estebans, pierres family etc etc it all interacts to create such a wonderful picture of who they are and how they have… become who they are??? like even from the beginning, when theyre karting together and estebans first feelings are “i want to win and i want to be in the kart but hes going first :(“ and that… changes but never really goes away because its important to him and the little moments that show their diff upbringing too like… pierre asking for like. snacks for instance, and not having that fear of being rude and having something taken away from him that esteban has, like his interactions with pierres family made me want to scream because like. the cautiousness and politeness like so so so real

estebans ENTIRE relationship with crying. AGGHHHH!!!!!

and pierre not understanding why he cant separate on and off track but like. estebans put his whole self into it in a different way to what pierre has, and just exactly what its like to be kind of. insular and awkward as a kid because that DOES follow you, his difficulties fitting in with his peer group etc etc

the playing COD together made me 😭😭😭 😭 ESPECIALLY when pierre was like dude was that ur mum??? and its like. in my head ratatouille flashback pierre and estebans parents. AND ESTEBAN ADDED TO THE GROUP CHAT AND HES LIKE… im inside now :) UGHRJFJ SOBBING

omfg and all the unsent texts when pierre got demoted… esteban im literally reaching thru the screen to make u press send sorry anyway. beautiful beautiful beautiful fic thank u so much!!!! mwah!!! <3

Thank u!! This is long so under the cut haha

ahhh that's amazing to hear 😭😭 I love when writing makes me feel like that so it's an honor to be able to do it for u!!! I'm really glad I was able to flesh out that world in a way that felt real!!! I was sort of debating whether to tag this fic as a bildungsroman or not (obv I didn't) because I didn't know if there was enough character change/on loss/psychological focus... like they grow up but i wanted to keep that raw competitive core and also keep the elements of - Pierre's parents saying they tried to protect his childhood, but he moved away so young. Esteban saying he grew up quick. Etc. like you said - 'insular and awkward'. the stuff about crying (este talking about crying after getting scratched from Australia 2019 testing with merc. It destroys me). It sneaks up on u. You never escape that!!! And if you do, you have to work for it!!!!

the triangulation of Charles/pierre/esteban is like. Everything to me. I need a proper messy love triangle. i need Charles pov on the whole thing. the way Charles is. he's in a different league than them and he knows it but he wants to be loved anyway...

i think also capturing how people interact with each other online is - hard. i literally just sketched out a Cinderella story au with @nicotineteeth lmao and i keep thinking about it like. about the idiot by batuman. how can you know someone so well online and not know how it will flesh out when you meet each other. can you talk past each other without realizing it. obv here - and in most of my fic - i try to stay in the present but even with relationships like that. i feel like saying things you mean in text is. almost even worse. that was the only scene in this whole fic where both pierre and esteban weren't there and i was honestly debating it but like that's a connection too. ok sorry to ramble about something so tangential haha.

I really appreciate ur message haha. Screenshotted and saved!! I'm very glad you enjoyed my little fic and I really enjoyed hearing ur comments!!! ❤️❤️

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OKAY IVE WATCHED SOOOO MUCH IT WAS THE FIRST THING I DID WHEN I WOKE UP THIS MORNING (2PM RN) LETS TALK ABOUT IT !!!!

Black Woke Up and fucking punched sean and left him on the ground and sean did not fight back and was so fucking confused and so fucking hurt because i love him so much why is he doing this to me. the way i fucking screamed. cried even . that shit HURT

god i cannot for the life of me remember it all in order but WHATEVER

black and white care about each other soooo much its Beautiful. the one scene where they were hugging and crying and black was like "im not crying tears are just coming out of my eyes . i guess we really are connected" or something along those lines and i was just like suuuuuuure youre not crying lol i Adore them

also i fucking Knew it was todd lmao . bro was wayy too suspicious

poor black though ?? hes been Going Through It. put in the hospital by someone who was meant to be his friend waking up & finding out the girl he loves is sorta with his other friend and his gang doesnt want him around anymore especially after theyve had white (even being directly told by gumpa that whites better than him) plus not having anyone but white in the way of family ?? someone give this guy a mfing hug i swear

plus it turns out grams in love with eugene not black lmao that one threw me for a loop but theyre admittedly cute together :3

THE SCENE WHERE SEAN TOLD DAN TO KILL HIMSELF BC HE KILLED HIS DAD WAS INSANE LMAO . made me laugh im ngl bc i just Knew sean was gonna pull some shit like that i love him so much :/

yok and dan are so fucking adorable im gonna throw up . i seriously love them together and i love their stories and the shit they say and the way their minds work. same for sean & white. like theyre just so crazy insightful sometimes ??? and even when theyre not theyre just . Dude. i Seriously love these characters

i was fucking RELIEVED when sean finally had confirmation that black and white are different people like Yeah the dude you fell in love with would never do All That to you 😭😭

theyre so ajfjksjfjks i love their banter and their interactions and the way they look at each other is so sweet it makes me wanna throw up

plus gumpa bragging about knowing black had a twin the entire time was hilarious lmao id do the same tbh he Deserved to ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ + the scene where sean wraps an arm around white and leans in to kiss his cheek in front of the others and white flinches away and seans like "you dont act like this when its just the two of us" and everyones all like oOoOoOoOoOoH and laughing and teasing them that shit healed my fucking soul man

another thing was the marriage equality fashion show i think it was called ?? + Everything prior to it. queer joy in fiction never fails to get me So Fucking Emotional. everyone with the pride flags and joy of just like Being There and fighting for something they all believe in . imso fucking obsessed

turns out namo was a girl sean hung out with sometimes i guess ? who he seems to sleep with sometimes lmao . and she Liked him and was sad as fuck when she found out about sean and white but she was pretending to be cool about it because "its not like you ever asked me to be your girlfriend" . hmm i wonder if sean woulda said yes if she asked him out pre white

this shit has me in a fucking chokehold if you didnt notice (im pretty sure you did though 😭😭😭) and im in the penultimate episode and im fucking SAD its gonna end soon but im SO looking forward to watching it all again :]

ooooh yes the black and sean confrontation is so painful, poor sean has no freaking clue whats going on.

I adore all of the Black and White scenes together. How the actor makes having a conversation with himself so emotional is amazing. Also love sibling relationships so much so get so many feels from them.

yeah Todd was playing it all from the start, hate him so much. full asshole

Black deserves so many hugs and i'm so glad him and White are reunited. I do feel like him seeing how much more his gang like Whites version of him will probably be a bit of a wake up call. If we get a season 2 I would love to have it focused on Black this time. or even a prequel of sorts that shows the gang before white.

actually was so surprised by Grams thing being with Eugene and not Black, gmmtv really switched up the story there

Sean finally gets an outlet for his anger and hurt and the fact that he tells dan to kill himself instead of taking the revenge says so much about his character and development through the show.

the couples and charachters in this show sometimes feel bigger than that, they’re so real. i was watching the last couple episodes as they were coming out weekly and let me tell you i was thinking about them always (and still am). they’re just so brilliant.

i was actually screaming for them to communicate to Sean what was going on until he finally found out. poor guy was really going through it

ugh the teasing was so relieving, really the fluff we had all been waiting for. and i love Gumpa, he’s the real hero for keeping quiet about White and just accepting that some shit is going on

queer joy is everything and a lot of gmmtv dramas that i’ve watched highlight it. joy and happiness is just so important, especially when you’re showing a lot of the gritty parts of activism

Namo and Sean’s relationship was kinda just there? like it’s kept ambiguous cause both want different things. i really want her to be happy (and they should give her a girlfriend, was really hoping for her and Eugen to have some subplot together)

Endings are the worst. like why does it have to be over and you’ll never be able to watch it the same again. but also it’s really good for rewatches cause then you can find the details and foreshadowing you missed the first time

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the hollies / the byrds - take 2

[kveom]

secret carat here again <3 im so sorry i didnt realize how much time passed since my last message, this past week feels like it went by in a flash... i hope you've been well in the meantime tho <3 ive been meaning to get into kdramas myself, my sister made me watch hes psychometric and devil judge with her (obviously shes a got7 stan hehe) and i really enjoyed them ! the hard part is finding something to watch next.. what are some of your favorite kdramas? maybe i can check those out someday <3

oooh trust me whipped cream on hot chocolate is SO DIVINE. i wont lie tho im not above making hot chocolate as an excuse to consume unholy amounts of whipped cream so maybe im biased 😳😳 it must be a little funny watching all these christmas themed movies and cartoons in winter wonderland-esque settings as a child tho~ do you actually celebrate christmas tho? and if you do, do you have any special traditions?~

oh agree ! 2017-18 was kinda like,,,, seokhan's honeymoon phase lmao the way these two would never shut up about each other and do everything together to the point where the rest of the members would constantly tease them about it hhhdfh like,, i very vividly remember boo and coups jokingly whining that "jeonghan only takes care of dk these days" ? dokyeom seems to hang out a lot with joshua nowadays and i really love their dynamic as well !! god theyre all so cute, i love all the different relationships between the members sm <3 for vernon and dk, that video of dokyeom splashing vernon with water and then himself is SO FUNNY and such a great example of how they click so well despite their different personalities,,,,, 218 best bros <3333

omg i think if i had a say in their next comeback concept i would just.. want them to have an Actual Concept? design, concept and styling wise svt's albums & comebacks in general have been a little underwhelming the past few years imo and its such a shame because their albums have SO. MUCH. POTENTIAL to tell these amazing visual stories to compliment their music. from their interviews it's obvious the boys have a clear vision for each comeback too so its really pledis who needs to step up their game.. fear for example, i feel like they couldve done something really cool with that; maybe like a dark, ethereal, almost fantasy-esque concept ? and they got sooooo close with some of the shots in the mv but it still felt a little empty and uninspired in the end idk. home run too, i think most carats can agree its downright criminal that we never got a vintage baseball themed stage (im still so bitter about this ashdjdj) idk idk ;;;

nooooo i still havent watched in the soop yet omg,, im waiting for the perfect moment to sit down and enjoy it in peace but it seems that moment might never come ^^" and i still have to watch some of the htr episodes too, and so many gose episodes that i missed this year (which is why i cant really answer your question about my favorite episode welp but what was yours of this past season?)........ yea omg that woozi moment in boo's past life destiny was so precious hfhfhhf has anyone made a woozi querencia compilation set yet cause i need it so bad 💔

naww it's so cute how you considered his love language to come up with a gift ;-; the survey responses would be such a lovely present and im sure he would appreciate it sm <333 i remember your 2018 birthday post for him so well, can i just say thank you for creating such lovely content for dk ! im so in love with everything you post and i can tell you put a lot of thought and love in your creations and emo rant posts about him its really sweet <3

speaking of christmas gifts !!! dokyeom gave us one too ;-; what did you think of you're my christmas? <3

~ your secret carat ⛄

FIRSTLY I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT DK'S SONG UNTIL I SAW YOUR MESSAGE AKNDAKAK THANK U I LOVEEEEE that his solo is a Christmas themed song?????? It's so bright and hopeful and so fitting. He really just keeps on giving 😭

ooooh he is pyschometric got me back into crime dramas!! I originally watched it for the romcom but got sucked into everything else. I mainly watch romcoms but if you're into crime?? then I would recommend tunnel, signal, stranger and I'm watching the good detective right now! If you don't mind romcom I would also recommend suspicious partner, it's romcom/crime and is one of my top 3 kdramas hehe

yeah sometimes it doesn't feel like Christmas here because I associate Christmas with winter and snow etc. and yeah I do celebrate Christmas! Do you?? I don't have any tradition other than spending time with family and eating but what more could you ask for tbh

for dk's birthday a few years ago I did a set for each dk pairing and it was soooo fun even though I could *not* do that again ajdbakak but I remember for seoksoo their moments were mostly in the background like their little dinner date hehe so cute <3 but yeah! a couple of years ago I tried making a set which had all 78 svt pairings and while looking through videos for the different scenes I realised once again that all pairings really are just. Amazing in their own ways (I never ended up making the post but u know how Miley Cyrus said it's the climb? Yeah)

akdjakaka I know what you mean. Like obviously seventeen are doing amazing and I just feel like the standard for MVs and concepts doesn't match up?? I am one of those carats that expected a baseball themed stage 😔

aah they really have been putting out so much content hey. I have yet to finish ITS and HTR lmao but my fave gose ep for this year was probably the best friends ep!! (Highly recommend) you can just tell they're having so much fun and man the things they come up with....seventeen are truly top tier. I actually made a querencia set ages ago (probably my first member focused set that wasn't of dk lmao) and I wanted to make a new one because of that specific moment (plus woozi best producer moment) but as always I don't follow through with my ideas ajsjaka. I too would love to see that set tho <3

Ohh :( thanks so much!! I know caratblr is not as active as other spaces but the amount of LOVE and support everyone here has for each other makes up for it n that's why I love making DK content 💖💖💖💖