#with: ryan

[aresmelaina]

starter for: @violenceforged

location: outskirts of Redwood

Turns out, being a raider with a fucking ankle monitor was fucking bothersome. Mostly because you weren't actually able to do your damn job without the guy you were anchored to. And unless Isaac decided to get off his bony ass and go out on a raid, Ares was stuck inside the settlement as well.

Most people wouldn't complain about it because being trapped inside a pretty safe city instead of out there with dead things that wanted to eat you was preferable to most. But Ares had done his stint in prison for long enough to know just how much it fucking sucked to be trapped. It was one thing choosing not go somewhere, another being unable to. And the latter made him absolutely restless.

So, like an animal trapped in a cage, Ares found himself pacing. Wandering the outskirts of Redwood, alongside the wall, forth and back as if trying to get a taste of freedom. It helped, in a way. Keeping himself moving. In other aspects, it made things worse. Knowing what was out there, and being cut off from it, even if the outside was some kind of apocalyptic hellscape full of monsters.

Ares was out on one of these walks again. Walking alonside, keeping the walls to his left, when he saw someone in the deep grass lining the wall. A man, who looked vaguely familiar (which had never been a good sign so far - with Silvy, Renzie and Isaac being some great examples of that), but this time it wasn't someone Ares had fucked with in the past.

"Hey, you're also with the raiders, aren't you?" Ares called as he stepped closer. "Don't think we met yet. I'm Ares. New guy." And he could only hope that this dude hadn't heard of the ankle bracelet story. The last thing Ares was in the mood for was his reputation preceding him.

"What are ya doing there?"

[buggotbrain]

saw a theory that the SmokeStack twins were posing as one man in Chicago, which helped them get away with stealing from both sides. i'm poised to believe that because visually their clothing was very clearly of the two mobs. smoke was full irish— tweed, bowler hat. while stack had the full mafia look. yk italian leather shoes, fedora etc etc . like the details!!

[kaleidoscopic-quiddity]

remmick and the vampires present a false dichotomy

Hogwood (the man who sold the twins the mill) and the KKK are very obviously bad, they are outright malicious bigotry, they use the n-word and plan to lynch the moore's and their community, they are so blatantly racist and hateful it's unavoidably obvious

remmick and the vampires however say that they believe in equality, say that they want to create a community, and yet remmick's goal throught the movie is to both metaphorically and literally steal sammie's ability for his own goal of reconnecting with his irish ancestors, a white man wants to harm a young and upcoming black man and use talents for his own goals without giving any regard to said black man's autonomy or agency

when sammie sings 'I lied to you' in the juke joint and calls forth the spirits from the past and future, it's a blend of cultures; west african, east asian, native american, and african american song and dance blend together across time and space to tell the stories of blues; where it takes its inspiration from, the music genres it then inspired, the complex history of black american culture and its intersections with other peoples of colour in the USA

when remmick and the vampires kill and turn the people in the juke joint, and then perform rocky road to dublin, only remmick's irish culture is on display, there is no influence from the black and asian people he has forcibly assimilated into his song, it's juxtaposition with the earlier scene is blatant, remmick is more than happy to assimilate people of colour into his 'community' of 'equals', and yet its only whiteness that is celebrated, that is normative

remmick claims that he's doing people a favour by turning them immortal, conviently ignoring that he literally has to suck the life out of them to do so, trapping their spirits on earth, he claims that he's the good guy, that the KKK were gonna come and lynch everyone at the joint in the morning anyways, conviently ignoring that he's doing the exact same thing; a white man leading a mob to kill a bunch of black people

in the final confrontation with sammie remmick repeatedly dunks him into the river, a forceful baptism. both the celtic irish and enslaved west africans had their religions suppressed and destroyed by colonialsm, had christianity forced upon them by the british empire, and in that scene we see remmick repeating that cycle, using christianity to inflict harm, and sammie reclaiming christianity, despite all the complex emotions he has arround it, as many colonised peoples have and still do, when he recites the lord's prayer

remmick and the vampires are no less racist than hogwood and the KKK, are no less predatory or evil, they're just less blantant about their bigotry, they represent the system, the normalised white supremacy that is seeped into the very foundation of culture in america, the point isnt that remmick would call any of the black characters in the movie the n-word, i dont think he would, the point is that his exploitation and desacration and inserting-himself-into-when-he-wasn't-invited of the juke joint is a microcosm of what white people have done to black american arts and culture since ever since there have been black and white people in america, and even before that

theres a reason vultures are shown early on in this movie

[flippyspoon]

[forbidden-interlude]

The funniest part of Sinners was when the Native Americans just said “yeahhh good luck with that”

[alchemyfreak123]

Women of Sinners - Sinners (2025) dir. Ryan Coogler

[lejardindeschats]

if sinners (2025) taught me anything, it's that it IS actually always about race.

you can be oppressed, and still promote and maintain the very same systems of oppression onto other marginalized people. being oppressed in one dimension doesn't allow you to be exempt from oppressing in other dimensions. the "villain" of the movie, remmick, being from the time period of the english colonization of ireland, all the while wanting to take a piece of sammie's own culture from him, use him for it. and this plot point coming after remmick witnesses the significance of sammie's playing within his culture, for his ancestors and how it would shape Black culture in the future.

even in today's society, ive noticed that people treat Black people like a commodity. our worth is only as much as other people decide it to be, and that's usually dependent on how much the oppressor can take from us. for example, the controversy of"internet slang" and how it is blatantly just AAVE with a bad disguise on

do you listen to Black musicians? do you watch Black movies? do you engage with Black creators? do you defend the racist tendencies you notice in your friends, in your family, or do you stay silent? do you listen when Black people tell you you've said or done something racist? do you actually care about not being racist, or do you just not want to look like you're racist?

i just think people have a very specific take on what racism is, and that if they're not committing KKK-levels of violence on people, then they're not racist. or if you've experienced oppression in one form, you cannot possibly be engaging with oppression in another form. but the ways in which we interact with other people and the world will always be through the lens of race, because that is simply what it means for oppression to be systemic, especially in the US and our current political climate

anyway 10/10 movie. highly recommend

[medusas-daughter]

Sinners is what happens when directors are allowed to experiment with the genres like a horror musical that puts you in a trance and makes you question your existence while also being campy and funny but also breathtakingly beautiful but also haunting and terrifying? Yes please I literally did not want to leave the theater I wanted to just stay there and keep watching it over and over

[vardapilled]

"No miseries worth complainin' about."

WUNMI MOSAKU as ANNIE SINNERS (2025) dir. Ryan Coogler

[manichewitz]

we gotta find that girl who saw black panther and clenched her jaw so hard at the sight of shirtless michael b jordan that she broke her retainer, i need her opinion on sinners (2025)

[seachick]

I am begging everyone who has ever bemoaned about Hollywood only making sequels and IP movies to go see Sinners in theaters. It has the creative team behind Black Panther working on it and their talent shines through in the cinematography, music, costuming, EVERYTHING. It's a completely original screenplay written by Ryan Coogler and if you want to support original movies, go see it in theaters.

[faitokie]

I know the truth hurts

[thevelvetwhispers]

My favorite threads posts about SINNERS

This movie is currently my whole personality… y’all gon’ be sick of me! 🤣

[thecollectibles]

Art by Ryan Thompson

[alliesletterboxd]

just saw sinners and i can safely say that michael b jordan looked so slutty in his bloody tank top emptying entire gun clips into kkk members. immediate 10/10