the scarf wars: p1/4
THE GREAT LUCINA/PHERES ARGUMENT OVER IN #BWIC.
Also known as: in which Pheres Dysseu [RS] has a very terrible three hours, part one of four. Featuring Hadean [ID], Maidel [AC], Lucina [DP], and a guest appearance from Cernia [TC].
DP: Well I came into this chat expecting to find people I don't know | Bvt I fovnd yov instead
DP: Hello Pheres
ID: hi other rustblood.
DP: Hello other rvstblood | It's nice to meet yov
ID: pheres had best not try to use your entering to change the subject.
DP: Oh he will | Trvst me
TC: H! sh!tt!er rustblood
DP: Well that's one way of saying hello | Hello to yov too
ID: do you two know each other.
DP: I know Pheres | Bvt that's it as far as I know
ID: pheres you had better not be absconding to avoid answering me. =:I
TC: Oh there's a~other perso~!
RS: | Some of Us have Customers | Hadean | Haha |
ID: how convenient.
RS: | Anyway | Yes | I am Back | And | Hello | Lucina |
TC: ! thought !D was talk!~g to me
ID: =:I we both know i'm not the shittier rustblood around here.
TC: Yes you are
DP: Well if it'll stop a brewing fight | I'll volvnteer for the role of 'shittier rvstblood'
DP: I wovld ask if Pheres wovld join me | Bvt he's far too good for that
ID: there is no brown in these veins. i am as maroon as maroon gets.
RS: | Why would I ever Join You | if You are So Kindly Offering | ? | That would be Neglecting Your Noble Sacrifice | in the Name of Chat Security |
DP: Yes Pheres | Bvt misery loves companyy
DP: And yov're very good company
RS: | And | Hadean | There's no Need for Insinuations |
RS: | I'm not Going to Take a Picture of My Sales Receipts just to Ease Your Pumpbiscuit of Suspicision |
RS: | Unnecessary Suspicisions |
RS: | =:B |
DP: I don't know Pheres | I hear yov've been doing some odd things in that winnebago of yovrs
ID: wow pheres did you piss in this rust's grubflakes.
ID: they're just all over you huh.
DP: Oh he's nice | Bvt very good at pissing in grvbflakes
DP: He's famovs arovnd my jvrisdiction | For being very good at that
ID: pheres you cad
RS: | Hahahaha | What can I Say | Hadean | ? |
RS: | Apparently I am a Ball of Spit and Vinegar | =:B |
ID: you black casanova. =:P
DP: Bvt that being said | Tallow and Cyrrvs are begging me to ask yov to visit again
RS: | It is a Highly Guarded Secret | But | Sometimes |
RS: | You just Have to Give a Firmly Worded | Apology |
ID: no wonder i'm still single.
DP: Well a ball of flvff and condescension is a bit more on the mark | But spit and vinegar works I gvess
DP: Yov jvst dodged a bvllet there I'll have yov know | I have a friend who's particvlarly into the shipping scene
DP: I don't even know why | It's kind of concerning
DP: And she jvst stopped looking over my shovlder| Right before you said that
DP: Bvt she did nearly pee herself lavghing | Over Pheres being a casanova
ID: i didn't say i was unhappily single. let it be known.
ID: pheres seems to have the most action going on around here.
DP: Oh I believe you | Bvt she's way too enthvsiastic abovt thinking otherwise
RS: | And | I will Visit Soon Enough | ! |
RS: | | | Or I |- WAS -| Before I Saw all of That | Good Heavens |
DP: Well if you don't want to visit vs | I'll jvst be svre to let the boys know
DP: I'm svre they'll be fine | Bvt they will be quite sad
RS: | And | There is no |- ACTION -| There is Simply Over-Enthusiasm | Haha |
RS: | And a Lack of Manners |
RS: | Not in This Instance | Of Course | =:) |
ID: sure pheres. sure.
DP: Well after yov yelled at Maecii enovgh to vpset her | Which is a difficvlt task believe me
DP: I'm inclined to qvestion yovr manners
ID: pheres yells.
ID: he didn't seem the type to have it in him.
RS: | I Don't |
RS: | Haha |
RS: | =:/ |
ID: no offense pheres. path of least resistance and all is fine, you do you.
ID: what are you selling anyways pheres.
ID: hair care products.
DP: He sells books | Some of them are actvally qvite interesting
RS: / antiques / to very fussy highbloods / who are / quite honestly / not buying enough to warrant this amount of my attention / =:/ /
RS: / and books /
ID: huh what kind of antiques.
RS: / lucina / instead of attempting to drag me to the forefront of the conversation /
RS: / why don't you explain why you're on here / instead of tending to your busy little berg / ? /
DP: Pewter recommended the chat to me | He said to check it ovt
DP: And I do get breaks yov know | There is no pressing emergency right now
DP: Why are yov here | Instead of selling things to vnappreciative highbloods
ID: pheres multitasks to give us the honor of his presence. =:P
DP: Impressive | I might swoon
ID: seems like you might do a lot of swooning over pheres. from what i've seen.
DP: If by swooning yov mean | I kind of want to fire him from breathing
DP: Then I swoon quite a lot
[Pheres offers to take Hadean with him up to the Mouth to look at Lucina's tombs, since they're both in Hanhai, which leads to a rejection, which leads to:]
RS: | | And | Hadean | Haha |
RS: | Um |
RS: | Do You really Think that I Look like the Sort of Person to Murder Someone | ? | =:1 |
ID: no. but the best murderers don't.
ID: rustblooded murderers at least.
RS: | ! |
RS: | Now I am Not Just a Murderer |
RS: | I am a Skilled Murderer | ? |
RS: | =:1 |
AC: Ø .n. that's true. but I don't think Pheres would murder anyone. unless he had to. not that he would! but sometimes things happen. ugh. this sounds horrible I'm sorry Pheres. I'm just saying theoretically. Ø
RS: | | | |
ID: i mean you could be.
RS: | I Appreciate the Sentiment |
RS: | But | Please | Rest Assured |
AC: Ø I know you're perfectly fine Ø
RS: | I would not Cull Someone if They had a Gun to My Head |- HONESTLY -|
RS: | This is a Very Silly Conversation |
AC: Ø .n. but then they'd kill you and that'd be really sad. Ø
DP: I'll be yovr other character witness | Pheres isn't mvch of a killer
DP: He's more likely to spvtter angrily and get his own hair stvck in his movth | Than he is to whip out a gvn and a knife
AC: Ø .n. so many people would miss you Ø
DP: It's trve | The boys wovld cry for days
AC: Ø And I would be sad and Emerel and Kit and Sipara! Ø
RS: | Okay | Um | You are Missing the Point Here |
RS: | Oh | That Sounded Uncouth | My Apologies |
RS: | But |
RS: | | | Let's go Back to Discussing Rocks | =:1 |
[DISCUSSION OF ROCKS ENSUES, LEADING TO:]
DP: No no yov have to really amp vp your presentation | Like
DP: These are rare bloodstones from fire movntain | Only 10 left in existence
DP: Get them while you can!
AC: Ø what Ø
AC: Ø that sounds fake Ø
AC: Ø like from a video game Ø
DP: I know bvt | Pheres yov probably know all abovt this
DP: People will bvy a lot of things if yov get them excited for them
AC: Ø We have lovely marketing ouo Ø
AC: Ø That's what you mean, right Lucina? Ø
DP: Right
RS: | Oh | Yes | ! | It is Absolutely True |
RS: | Maidel | If You Tell People that They're Unique | then They'll Buy Anything | Really |
DP: Marketing is important
AC: Ø Our artifacts really are very nice though! Ø
[This eventually leads to a comparision between Hadean and Riccin, which leads to Pheres explaining that Maidel likes Riccin, and Maidel arguing that Pheres likes Riccin.]
AC: Ø They've been very good to me! Ø
AC: Ø ...but I don't think they like me, so you might not want to say that. .n. Ø
AC: Ø They might get offended. Ø
ID: well i can about assure you that if i was to meet riccin. there would be blows.
RS: | Oh | ! | Don't Take It Personally | Riccin is Incapable of Liking Anyone | =:) |
AC: Ø Or probably laugh. Though that's not so bad. Ø
AC: Ø Why would I be offended? Ø
AC: Ø That's silly. Ø
DP: Wait Pheres | Have you ever actvally disagreed with someone while still liking them
RS: | Absolutely | I Disagree with You on the Regular | Don't I | ? | =:) |
DP: Becavse it jvst occvred to me that yov demonize disagreement | Qvite often
RS: | And |
RS: | | Haha | Hadean | Is There Anyone that You Would not Come to Blows upon Meeting | ? |(edited)AC: Ø Riccin just likes different kinds of people, I think? .u. Ø
DP: I wasn't aware yov actvally liked me | Whatever will I do now
AC: Ø I mean, they like you, Pheres Ø
AC: Ø They listened to you. .u. Ø
RS: | | Maidel | Listening to Me just Means that I Know how to Handle Them | ! |
RS: | Much like I Know how to Handle a Great Deal of Our Customers |
RS: | Or Lucina | Haha | =:) |
DP: I don't need to be 'handled' Pheres | Yov make me sovnd like a wild animal
RS: | Oh | ? | My Apologies |
RS: | Have You Stopped Striking People for Fun | ? |
AC: Ø I think you're very - Ø
ID: i thought handled made you sound like an out of control troll who needs a moirail.
AC: Ø ono Ø
RS: | She Does | Unfortunately | It is the Rare Maroon that Could Use Pacification | But | Well |
RS: | She's a Little Volatile |
RS: | Oh | Well | She'll find Someone | Eventually | =:) |
ID: stay wild and free dp.
[ROUND ONE BEGINS.]
AC: Ø Lucina why did you hit someone? Ø
DP: Just him | Because he was doing this shit
DP: This shit where he treats me like I don't have a brain | And need to be dealt with like I can't control myself
DP: If yov mvst know Maidel | Pheres is awfvl to all of vs most of the timeAC: Ø ;m; what? Ø
ID: i don't think pheres has been awful to me.
AC: Ø but why? Ø
RS: | Oh | Don't make that Face |
RS: | I am not Awful |
DP: Yov haven't met him in person | Give it time
AC: Ø I don't understand Ø
ID: he did seem offended over my split ends.
DP: Yeah | He got mad that we had the same scarf
DP: And now he treats me like an idiot | And it pisses me off
RS: | Maidel |- WORKS -| for Me | Lucina |
RS: | And Takes Care of the Shop |
RS: | I am Fairly Certain He has a Better Grasp of My Demeanour than You | =:) |
RS: | But | Please | ! | Continue | =:B |
DP: Hate to say it | Bvt how yov treat Maidel has nothing to do with how yov treat me
ID: i think dp wants more respect pheres.
RS: | Oh | For Heaven's Sake |
RS: | When I Said Continue |
RS: | I was not Anticipating | Two Minutes of Typing |
AC: Ø I don't want to be included as part of an argument ;m; Ø
DP: Yov are nasty as hell to me | Yov make commentary on every little thing I do
DP: Yov keep sticking yovr nose where it doesn't belong | And inserting opinions when yov have no idea what you're talking about
DP: Yov're rude to Pademi | Yov screamed at Maecii
DP: Yov've ticked off Pewter and I didn't think that was possible | Need I go on
DP: With this many people vpset at you Pheres | The problem is yov
RS: | | Are We really Airing Our Grievances in the Middle of a Public Chat | ? |
ID: ac i think we just need to let them get this all out.
DP: It's not me | It's yov
ID: so uh. let's go to the other chat.
[HADEAN AND MAIDEL FLEE THE BATTLE.]
RS: | This is a Charmingly Novel Experience |
RS: | But I think I'm not Especially Keen on It |AC: Ø ;m; Ø
DP: And oh wow look what yov're doing now | Same thing yov always do when yov don't want to own up to being an ass
DP: Yov make it ovt like it's everyone else's favlt | Like everyone else in the world jvst doesn't know how anything works
DP: Charmingly novel my left foot | It's only charmingly novel becavse that's the easy way ovt of an argvement
DP: Hard to argve with someone | Who's constantly trying to deflectRS: | Oh | For Goodness Sake |
RS: | Do You want to | Say | Take This to a Private Chat | ? |DP: There's no point | Yov'll never change
DP: It'll always be someone else's favlt | And never yovrs
RS: | I am not Entirely Sure the Resolution You Want Here |
RS: | Should I Apologise for Maecii Attempting to Hex My Vehicle | ? |
RS: | Or for You Striking Me | in some Misguided Pitch Flirtation | ? |
RS: | Or Pademi Insinuating that I am Incompetent Enough to Get Two Six Sweeps Murdered | ? | Mind | Most People Outside of Your Little Brooding Cavern of a Home Usually have Lived by Themselves for Several Sweeps at That Point |
RS: | But | Heavens only Knows They are Somehow Incapable of Venturing Out From under Your White-Eyed Gaze |
RS: | Clarify | and We can Tie This up Neatly | and Consider It Amended | =:) |
DP: It wasn't a misguided pitch flirtation Pheres | Yov weren't fvcking hearing me ovt and I get so tired of you treating us all like we're too stvpid to fvnction withovt yov
DP: It's my town and it's my job to protect it every way I can | Do yov even know how stressfvl this job gets?
DP: I do what I have to | And if that includes keeping an eye on the boys when I know fvll well other trolls their age are alone
DP: And if I have to fight yov and anyone else | To keep vs from ending vp like poor Levzig and the agricvltvral district
DP: Then yes I'll do it | No qvestions asked
DP: Vgh alright tell you what | Come by when yov have the chance and let's try talking it ovt again
DP: Bvt vse that damn smiley again | And yov lose yovr privileges to see the boys for the next perigee
RS: | For Someone Who Enjoys Harping on about the Respect She is Owed | and the Very Many Burdens that She Faces |
RS: | You are |- Remarkably -| short of It for Anyone Else | My Goodness |
RS: | But | Haha | Alright | We will Discuss This in Person | My Next Visit |
RS: |- IF -| You can Manage to Keep Your Temper | or at Least Your Hands | to Yourself |
RS:
RS: | I'd put a Smiley There |
RS: | But I would Hate to Distress You Further |
DP: Fine Pheres | Yov have a deal
DP: Let's talk this ovt like reasonable advlts | Maybe I'll take yov to my next town meeting
[And then Hadean, helpfully, while these two duke it out in PMs:]
ID: whoo okay here we are back again.
ID: let
ID: me
ID: just
ID: hide
ID: your
ID: conversation
ID: from
ID: my
ID: sight
ID: almost
ID: there!
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the scarf wars, p2
Follows an hour or two after PART ONE.
Featuring Pheres Dysseu [RS] and Lucina [DP].
[ refiningSpacetime is now messaging dualPhantasmagoria! ]
RS: | Okay | So |
RS: | I am By the Mouth | On the Road | for Another Hour or So |
RS: | But It's Best that We Clear the Air Beforehand | Isn't It | ? | =:) | That's what I Figure | At Least |
RS: | So | I am Messaging You First |
DP: Alright, Pheres, let's talk | I'm listening
RS: | | Um | So |
RS: | Ah |
RS: | | Give me a Moment | I have This on Voice to Text | So I can Drive |
RS: | And I am Afraid I Did Not Come Pre-Planned with a Script |
DP: Well this sovnds promising
RS: | What a Strikingly Respectful Beginning | =:) |
RS: | Ahem | Alright |
RS: | | Why | Exactly | are You Upset | ? |
DP: Pheres, I think I've made it very clear why I'm vpset | What did yov mean by no respect for yov is what I want to know.
RS: | That was an Invitation to Rephrase It | in a Moment Where You were Less | Mm | Emotional | ? |
RS: | But | That's Fine |
RS: | What is There to Say Further on My End | ? |
RS: | You Don't Trust My Decisions | You Certainly Don't Trust My Judgement |
DP: Yov're right that I don't, Pheres | Becavse of what you're doing right there
DP: Yov keep tvrning it back to how emotionally vnstable I am every time I stand vp to yov | It feels like yov want an accession instead of an advlt compromise
DP: Key word: Advlt
RS: | Of the Two Of Us | You are More Emotional |
RS: | It's not Some sort of Insult | It is a Statement of Fact |
RS: | Also | Oh My God |
RS: | You are Not Standing Up To Me |
RS: | I am Entirely Uncertain Why You Insist on Painting Yourself as the Perpetual Victim |
DP: I'm not painting myself as a victim | Bvt this is exactly why yov're so difficvlt to talk to
DP: Instead of going okay hey we're both in the wrong let's work ovt a solvution | Yov pick one point to harp on
DP: And yov keep harping on it | And vse it as an excvse to jvst deflect and ignore the problem at hand
DP: 'Well obviovsly we can't have a civil conversation because Lvcina is too emotional' | 'I have no idea what I did wrong I am innocent'
DP: Do yov see what I'm getting at here?
RS: | I see What You're Saying | I just Disagree |
RS: | Which I suppose is the Vast Issue Here | Haha |
RS: | What do You Consider the Problem at Hand | ? |(edited)
RS: | Because I Believe the Issue is a Lack of Respect |
RS: | And That's hardly going to be Resolved | If You Think That is the Issue that I am | Ahem |
RS: | How did You Say It | ? |
RS: | Harping On |
DP: I consider the problem at hand to be the fact | That we can't in the same room withovt sniping at each other
DP: At the very least what we need to do is set some grovnd rvles here | For what lines we can and can't cross
RS: | Setting Ground Rules won't Help |
RS: | If We Don't Address the Underlying Position |
RS: | But | Fine |
RS: | Since I am Unclear on What | Exactly | I have Done to Warrant Your Constant Uncouth Behaviour Towards Me |
RS: | Why Don't You Set Your Rules First | ? |
RS: | Or | No | We'll go Back and Forth | How's That | ? |
RS: | You get One | I Get One | =:) |
RS: | To Ensure It is |- Fair -|
DP: Deal | Sovnds good
DP: My first rvle is | Stop telling my friends they svck
DP: If not in those exact words
DP: Yovr tvrn
RS: | No | Pause | I am Afraid You will Have to Clarify That |
RS: | How do You Think I am Insulting Your Peers | ? |
DP: It's the way yov talk Pheres | Yov always come off like yov're telling us that everything we do is wrong
DP: Even if that's not what yov mean | It's how yov come off
DP: Which is why I told yov to leave the smiley faces ovt of the conversation(edited)
DP: Becavse that literally signals to me that yov think my anger is cvte or something
RS: | My Smiley | showing a Smiling Face |
RS: | signals that I think Your Anger is Cute |
RS: | Really | ? |
RS: | Heavens | And Here I Thought It Denoted Civility |
RS: | I Speak to Your Friends in the Same Manner that I Speak to Everyone Else |
RS: | If You Want Me to Change It |
RS: | Simply for Your Pleasure |
RS: | I am Afraid You're just Going to Have to be More Specific About What | Exactly | Is Upsetting You |
DP: Well that explains that one | Vsing smiles when someone is upset with yov is really bad timing(edited)
RS: | Other than the Smileys | I have Rather Caught on to That |
DP: The fact that yov're the most condescending person I've ever met | Is not helping
DP: What else am I svpposed to call it when yov make comments on how yov personally wovldn't do this or that and that yov think it's dvmb | Then tell vs to go ahead
DP: Or when yov critiqve the way everyone dresses | Nobody asked for yovr critiqve
RS: | | I don't Think I have Ever Used the Word Dumb | Once in My Life |
RS: | Forgive Me if I assumed | When People are Telling Me About Their Decisions | that The Proper Response is to | Say |
RS: | Respond | ? | Hahaha |
RS: | Heavens | I Thought It was a Conversation | Where One's Input was Expected | and Desired |
RS: | But | If I was Incorrect | That's Perfectly Fine | =:B |
RS: | I will be Certain to Keep That In |- Mind -|(edited)
DP: Jvst...stop giving you opinion when it wasn't actvally asked for | Becavse more often than not it goes from being a discvssion to yov jabbering away abovt how mvch this style svcks while we jvst groan
DP: Bvt if yov want a more positive note
DP: I...did think abovt what yov said | Abovt the boys
DP: Yov're right that we can't keep them here forever | Or protect them forever
DP: I mean half the trolls who live here were fending for themselves by six | Like yov apparently were
DP: I gvess it's jvst in ovr natvre to want to save them from the rest of the world bvt | We can't
RS: | Mm | I'm Glad You Agree |
RS: | But | Let's Stay on Topic | And Not Get Distracted | Shall We | ? |
RS: | Because | If We Start Discussing the Pupas Again | This will not Prove Conductive | =:) |
DP: Fair point
RS: | So | What You Consider Me Insulting Your Friends | is what I Consider a Normal Conversation |
RS: | Your Preference is That I Simply | Mm | do not Give My Opinion When It Isn't Asked For |
RS: | If Someone Begins Discussing Their Life |
RS: | My Proper Place in the Conversation is to | | |
RS: | Listen | ? | =:) |
DP: Yov ass
DP: Bvt no | It's more....yov can listen and respond withovt being rvde about it
DP: I'm starting to think we jvst have very different ideas of rvde
RS: | Honestly | I am Beginning to See What You Mean by Rude |
DP: Yov do?
RS: | Yes | Unfortunately | I find It Deeply Distasteful | In Every Way |
RS: | So | I Suppose That will Just Have to be A Source of Conflict |
RS: | It rather Makes Sense | Given Pademi's Behaviour | But |
RS: | I can't Say I Expected It from a Maroonblood |
RS: | Oh | Well | =:) |
RS: | My Turn to Designate a Rule |
DP: Oh my god
DP: Ugggh
DP: Fine | Name yovr rvle
RS: | You Have to Clearly State Your Intentions in Your Interactions |
RS: | Namely |
RS: | Have You been Pitch-Flirting | Or Not | ? |
DP: The answer is | Well
DP: Sometimes
DP: Sometimes I'm genuinely that mad | And other times I'm messing with you
DP: Even I'm not svre which some days
RS: | =:| |
DP: Yeah | Sorry
DP: Yov're actvally right | How can I be clear abovt it to yov if I don't even know what I'm doing
DP: Bvt I covld ask yov the same qvestion
RS: | Mm | To be Entirely Honest | I Thought You were Pitch-Courting |
RS: | And in That Light | Your Behaviour was Somewhat Tolerable |
RS: | And Your Continuous Lack of Respect | was Meant to Deliberately Aggravate | rather than Show Your Perpetual Inconsideration |
DP: Okay so | I'm not that matvre about it
DP: Yov got me
RS: | If It Was Not |
RS: | Well |
DP: Look I've never done the black covrting thing okay | I have no fvcking clve what I'm doing
DP: And listening to Pademi doesn't help
DP: Maybe I really am the one stepping over the line here.......
RS: | Yes | Well | I have Done It Once Before | And on the Topic of Unasked For Opinions |
RS: | Pademi Certainly had a Great Deal of Venom to Spew about My Ability to Handle It |
DP: Vh oh
DP: What did she say
RS: | And I am Honestly Thrown Here | On If You are Listening to Pademi Too Much | Or Too Little |
RS: | Because She was Certainly Opposed to Violence between Kismesises when It Came to My Prior One |
RS: | But She has No Words Against Your Predilection towards |- Striking Me -|(edited)
RS: | It's Almost as If | There is an Expectation | I will Simply be a Vehicle for | Oh |
RS: | People to Talk To | and Aim Their Confused Pitch Affections Towards |
RS: | and I am not Expected to React | Or Respond | Lest It be Read as Rude | that I am Talking Back |
RS: | And | Heavens Forbid | Expressing |- Opinions -| towards Higher Castes |
DP: I...will talk to her later
DP: Becavse when yov word it that way | It doesn't sovnd right at all
DP: Tell yov what Pheres
DP: I'm dropping whatever rvles I was thinking abovt setting
DP: Becavse they're sovnding more and more ridicvlovs the more I think on them
DP: We-especially me-haven't been fair to yov at all | And I'm sorry
DP: If yov don't completely platonically hate me by this point | Do yov think maybe we covld start over?
DP: Thovgh I get it if yov're completely done with me, I deserve that after the shit I've been flinging at yov and I'll stop bothering yov and won't argve it
DP: Yovr choice
DP: Either way, I really am sorry for being so childish. | I won't ever pvll the crap I pvlled with yov today again, especially in pvblic
DP: I swear
RS:
RS: | Ah | I am Juggling Conversations |
RS: | I am Not Really Giving This the Attention It Warrants | I Suppose |
RS: | So |
RS: | | ugh |
RS: | Don't |
RS: | Ugh | Look |
RS: | There is No Need to Feel Sorry For Yourself on My Account |
RS: | Or Pursue Theatrics such as | Oh | If You Never Wish to Speak to Me Again |
RS: | If I Did Not Wish to Speak To You | I Would not Have Contacted You |
RS: | I am Perfectly Fine | This is Perfectly Fine |
RS: | I will Speak to You in an Hour |
RS: | But I have Another Message to Respond To in the Meanwhile |
RS: | Goodbye |
DP: Bye
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