thatdebaterguy

[thatdebaterguy]

Deeply interesting that you critique others for not providing sources whilst rarely doing so yourself. Also interesting how you point fingers saying "that's an unsubstantiated claim!!!" at others whilst claiming everything, everyone anywhere in Palestine is Hamas if its convenient for your narrative.

You're rotting yourself to the core with your hatred. History will remember you unfavourably. The children of Palestine are the children of us all. Cutting down the flowers will not prevent spring's arrival.

I understand sounding intelligent is deeply important to you, but do you truly feel nothing seeing the battered bodies of children? The suffering that's on display for all of us - do you have anything to say apart from "but hhhhhhhamas". Is there anything left of you?

Rotting to the core? I can go about my day quite happily without suddenly collapsing at the thought of terrorists. And have you listened to a word I've said? Countless times I've said I hold sympathy for those on both sides who've suffered unfairly at the hands of old men, extremists and politicians waging their board game wars. Nowhere have I said everything in Palestine is Hamas, nowhere have I said everything everywhere is wrong apart from if it's on my side of the fence, I've critiqued Netanyahu, I've agreed that some Israeli soldiers have done horrible things, but you've got to look at the facts, Hamas employ civilians, use civilians, have a membership that takes up what could be around 5% of all Gazans, with affiliates of an unknown number, they had 10% of a global aid charity aiding them in various means, from hiding terrorists, plotting October 7th and holding hostages. I have zero sympathy for anyone who does as little as give Hamas discounts on fruit. They've slaughtered thousands for the smallest things over decades. This is just as I have no sympathy for Israeli soldiers who shoot civilians like target practice, but you have to make the distinction that, the IDF as a vast majority operates as a national military defence, whereas Hamas are openly terrorists who want the death of every Israeli. You can't say that for every member of the IDF. Actions will usually speak louder than words, but since Hamas fortunately aren't capable of eradicating Israel, hearing them say over and over how they'd massacre every Jew living peacefully in their homeland, it speaks volumes.

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UK riots

I've left most of my comments on this on youtube but I'll say it here cause at this point why not, barely anyones gonna see it but that's besides the point, the point to make is that, so many of the left are willing to throw around the term far right as a label on anything they see that doesn't fit their narrative, but when we, the centre/centre right, use the term two tier policing, no, we have to be very specific where that's used, or if we say certain people that happen to be white, get policed harsher than certain people who may not be white, suddenly we're racist. Mate, we don't care what your bloody skin colour is, if you're violently waving flags burning things chanting for death towards people, we want you locked up, whether you're an islamic extremist ready to launch a jihad or some bigot who thinks we should kick out anyone who isn't white from england, we the people are fed up of rampant crime and uncontrolled borders, it's not race, religion, whether you come from poland or canada or pakistan, come here peacefully, bring talent with you and adhere to our laws and customs, and we have no issue. We're fed up of the government shutting down our voices and blaming it on the rhetoric of a small hateful minority, yet excusing the behaviour of another small hateful minority. To police properly is to be colourblind, and it goes both ways.

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Even though this video is from 2021 there is as much if not more truth to it today, I usually do all the speaking myself but this man says it perfectly. https://youtu.be/t6of72XgiUg

[thatdebaterguy]

Your abortion opinion is dogshit. “Just have safe sex. No child is unwanted” tell me you’re middle class and sheltered and you’ve never done any research without telling me. Childbirth, if you’ve never had any experience with it, is an extremely long, painful, traumatic, and dangerous experience. If a pregnant individual at any point decides they do not want to experience this, they should be allowed to terminate the pregnancy. Are you really going to make a full grown thinking feeling ADULT unwillingly go through +12 hours of agony and potentially a fucking massive surgery while conscious (if you don’t know what a c section is) to prevent the termination of a fucking fetus that doesn’t even know it’s alive and has no capacity to suffer?

“No child is unwanted” you fucking idiot. Is your idea of the worldwide foster system limited to Annie the Musical? Not everyone has a loving family who can accept the child. Foster systems are rife with abuse. Almost nobody who ages out of the foster system has had a good childhood. And that’s only talking about places like North America and Europe. What about places with no nationwide foster system? Do you know about post partum depression?? Do you know about the research done about the mothers that just straight up do not love their babies or their children and regret not aborting them?

Look at me anon. I don’t care if it’s physically impossible for you, thought experiment here, would YOU undergo 9 months of pregnancy symptoms (weak bladder, swollen ankles, morning sickness, baby kicking, etc) and then go through hours of agony followed by a multi-hour cesarean section surgery for which you are conscious. Just to have a baby. Starting right now. I don’t care if you don’t want it I don’t care if you don’t have the money. Right now. “No child is unwanted,” right? Also the baby you have has a 100% chance of being sexually assaulted within the foster care system and becoming a drug addict who dies of an overdose at a young age. Still doing it?

What exactly are you trying to prove? My mother was well into her 40s when I was conceived, I was premature by about 2 weeks, and I was a c-section. She happily reminds me of the pain she went through just to make me exist, but isn't that the miracle of life, of birth, of families? Millions and millions of women go through such hardship and turmoil, 9 months of their lives, to bring life into this world, and will quite frequently then do it AGAIN, and will cherish their children graciously with no regrets. Not everyone has a good family, a good relationship with their mother, not everyone even knows their mother, but they get to experience life, to experience the world, no matter how shitty it gets, they always have a chance at pulling through, reaching happiness, having their own family. Of course it's not as simple as 'just have safe sex' but you see so many abortions are due to those not ready for motherhood yet failing to have protective sex. Personally, I believe if you're willing to have sex, you should be mindful of the consequences, and being horny and immature isn't a plausible excuse for terminating a life. Since my first formulation of an opinion on abortion, I've given it time to think, and have come to somewhat of an idea. Life truly begins once the heartbeat begins within a human child, and conscious existence begins around 25 weeks. The cut-off for abortion should be 25 weeks at latest, as that's when consciousness begins. However, at the development of the heart would also be ideal or acceptable in my eyes.

But of course every family isn't perfect, of course many people don't have a family, I grew up with an absent father who was more invested in booze than my life, I know many people who grew up in foster homes, and sure yes of course it's better to have a supportive family, but growing up adopted or in a foster home doesn't make your chances of a happy life impossible. And every child is wanted. By someone, somewhere. In America alone, there are 2 million couples on the adoption waiting list. Those are 2 million couples who'd greet any child with open loving arms, who'd try their best for that child. Being unwanted by your biological parents is a painful fact that could haunt you for life, but it doesn't negate from the value of life and the countless amazing experiences it has to offer. It just poses a greater challenge for you to overcome, and the greater the risk, the greater the reward. Knowing you've overcome being unwanted by your own family by building your own loving family is genuinely one of the greatest achievements in life, and if you've taken lessons from your parents to better your own parenting skills, to learn from their mistakes, to give someone a father when you didn't have one, then shoutout to you. Shoutout to mothers, to my mother, to single fathers, to loving parents, to orphans, and to those enduring through the hardships of life. We're all proud of you.

[thatdebaterguy]

I recently heard that the ICJ, which is frankly a complete joke of a system anyway, has come to what is an incredibly ambiguous ruling on whether genocide is being committed. Well ambiguous except for the fact they didn't say there was genocide taking place. The official statement can be interpreted in many ways, so I'll show it here.

A lot of people have taken this message as "Palestine is enduring a genocide and Israel needs to stop." but they're doing what happens in many legal situations where they're using non-binding and purposefully exaggerated language on what could've been a simple statement. It's basically saying Palestinians have rights to be protected from genocide, which is a possibility, and should be prevented. This.. is stuff we already knew. Obviously Palestinians have human rights, obviously genocide should be prevented, and obviously it's not actually happening. There is a very real risk, as there is in almost every conflict, of genocide happening, especially since Israel has the capacity to wipe Gaza off the face of the earth. This ruling is basically another emphasis that Israel should do more to prevent this conflict from going from violent and thorough, to mass bloodshed and genocide, which for the time being they're managing that at debatable levels, and of course there's room for improvement. but it's war, not an exam, you can't memorise a few quotes and hope everything is fine. Anyway, there is no genocide, so stop using exaggerative and emotive language to try get pity points for your cause. Stick to the facts.

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So, I'm not big into Eurovision but I know Israel participates so I was paying some attention to it this year and.. yeah it went how I'd imagined. What's curious though, is all these people claim they've been against the 'genocide of Palestinians' for ages, but how come when Israel won just a few years ago, there were no booing, no protests, no mention of Palestine, it was all about the singer, her song about female empowerment, but this year, it's all about Palestine, politics, not the song, not the singer, only about Palestine? This woman doesn't represent the IDF, she's a musician representing her country, not her government but her culture, and she never went around saying 'kill all Palestinians' she just sang, but suddenly she's some war criminal who deserves to be boo'd off stage?

These people just hop on whatever they consider trendy and ride it like a meth addict rides their high, it's ridiculous, you think you'll stop a war booing a singer? It's like people thinking that boycotting Microsoft or McDonalds will stop the war in Gaza, cause yeah American companies that don't sell arms or weapons are definitely the ones propping up this war, it could neeeever be Iran propping up Hamas, that's preposterous!

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Right, so these links prove absolutely nothing. If you click on the first one, it leads to a personal account, in which it's claimed the government refused an offer that would turn over the hostages, in return for Hamas getting away with it. Keep in mind, 4x as many people were just outright murdered than the amount of people taken into Gaza from Israel, and those families of the victims needed justice too. Taking the hostages back would leave Israel in a position where they got justice for 1/5 of the victims of October 7th, and allowed a literal terrorist organisation to continue operating. Saying it's Israel's fault for not accepting that deal, is like if the UK got offered to surrender in ww2, get all their POWs back, but France, Belgium, Poland and the Netherlands are all annexed into the German Reich, then blaming the UK for that. Letting a monster get away with mass murder is what you want Israel to do? They've gone miles into enemy territory to rescue a single hostage, so if you dare say they don't give a fuck about the hostages, when this entire operation is to prevent this happening to any future Israelis, to free them from living in fear of being stolen from their families, then you clearly know nothing of what's happening.

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Oh and there hasn't been misinformation and lies from Gaza whatsoever, they totally didn't admit to inflating the death toll by a third, they totally didn't lie about the amount of aid Israel was letting in, they didn't pretend that a Hamas supercomputer was just a solar panel control system under an UNRWA facility, they didn't pretend that beans cans were bombs dropped by Israel, they didn't pretend Israel is starving Gaza when they send hundreds of tonnes of food each day despite the fact they aren't responsible for the people of an entirely different country.

The facts we do know is that thousands of Jews globally have suffered simply for being Jewish since October 7th, whereas Arabs and Muslims have had a fraction of that amount for being Arab or Muslim. We know innocent Israelis were murdered, raped and kidnapped by Hamas, we know Hamas started a war they couldn't win, with no justification for the attack on innocent people, using money that was intended to feed and help the people of Gaza, we know Hamas have operated under civilian buildings, used civilian equipment, clothes, hired civilians to do their dirty work, recruited children, lied about death tolls, soldier counts, refused to free hostages, refused to clarify who's a fighter and who's a civilian, lied about Israel saying that they didn't warn when a strike was impending despite the BBC verifying from Palestinians that Israel has warned of oncoming attacks, we know they used the media to glorify a sick man burning himself alive, we know they're hypocrites and persecute people for being gay, and then use the left wing of the west in a political campaign to paint Israel as the enemy, we know a woman who was a hostage was given to a family in Gaza to be kept under watch and was raped and tortured, the list can go on and on.

You can google each individual case I've mentioned, search 'bbc Israel strike warnings' or 'Israeli hostage raped' or 'UNRWA Hamas' or 'Palestine policy on homosexuality' and can see it's all true, you can google the % increase of antisemitism, you can google death toll inflation, you can cross reference the death toll with other modern urban warfare scenarios and see that the casualty ratio isn't even as absurd as people claim it is. Don't start bitching about a flag, don't start lying to yourself, see the facts for how they are.

Wow it turns out the jewish girl who has been platformed on every multi billion dollar news channel in the last 24 hours and who said she was "stabbed with a flagpole" just bumped into a little mini flag. I can't believe she would lie about this

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Ok look, I'm not a religious guy, but you're telling me a guy you haven't spoken to in ages reached out to you to congratulate you and support you, despite being religious and his beliefs contradicting with his actions, he respects and supports you, and you call him a misogynist because he believes in more traditional gender roles? He's not enforcing his beliefs upon others, not saying all women should submit to all men no matter what, he personally thinks marriage is heterosexual, which is fair since marriage derives from religion and religion believes in heterosexuality, so yk makes sense, and he thinks men should take on the traditional husband role. This isn't misogynistic. There's many women who are perfectly happy to live the housewife life, and many men happy to play the working providing husband role, and those people attract to each other like magnets. He's not going to suddenly despise you if you take on a working woman role in a marriage, he just personally thinks that's what's best for the world. I guarantee you he has the upmost love and respect for women and would never hit a woman, I guarantee he believes in fair equal pay for women, he just would rather marry a woman who wants to be a housewife. He's not going to forcibly convert her into one.

All I'm saying is, if you see a man express that he wants a housewife, don't call him a misogynist for having a preference, he's not enforcing that belief upon other men or forcing his girlfriend to stay home and never work, he'll just date someone who's happy to be his final puzzle piece and fit that role for him. When someone starts forcing their beliefs upon others, that's when you have justification to call them out. In fact, you're the one who's forcing the belief that a traditional man is a misogynist, which I find disrespectful, as I'm a rather traditional guy, but have the upmost love and respect for my partner and will defend her right to pursue her dreams with my life, but we have a mutual understanding of what we both want, where I'm a working provider, and she can pursue hobbies and interests, and I will always believe that for her talents, she deserves equal pay with someone who shares such talents.

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He also didn't mention disabled people, but I wonder why? Maybe it's cause he was giving examples? He wasn't listing every single type of person persecuted at Auschwitz, he was getting the point across that it was a terrible place where millions died and suffered at the hands of the worst ideology of people to ever exist in mankind's history, but you're angry that he didn't mention the blatantly obvious? He's a Jewish man, who uploads Jewish centred content, who is devout to his faith, and you're surprised he comments predominantly about Jews at a place where a literal million Jews died simply for their faith? It's a video about the holocaust, which happened to Jews, where he went during a war which has many people becoming more anti-Semitic, as can be seen in the comments. "Since when Jews care about anyone else?" playing into the whole 'greedy Jew' stereotype, gotta love it. "They lie, steal and deny other suffering" not anti-Semitic whatsoever, and totally not factually incorrect, it's not like the state of Israel had some of the most solidarity with Americans following 9/11, and it definitely wasn't Israeli intelligence forces that helped track down terrorists and bring them to justice.

Calling a man a fanatical zionist for loving the country in which he has many friends and in which is the holy sites of his faith and the representation of his faith, while he still holds immense love and gratitude for the country he lives in now, is ridiculous. Sure I'm not the biggest Ben Shapiro fan I don't agree with all his statements but practically calling him a heartless greedy Jew is just blatant discrimination and hate based upon faith. If you disagree with Ben, don't throw in every single Jew and assume they're all horrible, and don't hate a man for listing why the holocaust was bad. God..

[thatdebaterguy]

The sole casualty of those drone strikes was a little girl killed by the shrapnel of one of those missiles, not even an Israeli girl, I think she was Jordanian. Iran meddling in this conflict is no different to when America has interfered in Central American countries. Israel and Palestine have been fighting since the dawn of the Israeli state and militant groups have been attempting to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth for almost a century, simply because they don't think they have a right to exist. If we go back to why this conflict began, it wasn't some 'settler colony' it was a sovereign country with ethnic, historical and modern ties to the region, establishing themselves in a small majority Jewish region of the middle east, willing to make concession after concession to the local Arabs in order to maintain peace. The Arab nations have never allowed Israel peace. Iran has nothing to do with this conflict apart from the fact they keep propping up insurgents and destabilising the region as a whole. Iran and Hamas are the ones bringing terror and murder to the middle east. It's time to stop blaming the west for every single problem, and be honest with ourselves so we can end the suffering of Israelis and Palestinians at the hands of these extremists in Iran and Gaza.

These pro-Hamas terrorist supporters claim to be "anti-war" and want a "ceasefire," while celebrating a (failed) attempt to eradicate Israel from the face of the Earth. Meaning, they're as "anti-war" as Antifa is "anti-fascist."

These crazed fanatics support the brutal Islamic regime of Iran. You know, the one that the citizens had an uprising against when Mahsa Amini was murdered. Far-left western terrorists have now decided their goals line up with those of a far-right fundamentalist theocracy.

These people need to be removed from our societies before they destroy them.

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Coming back from a trip to Austria, and oh boy I've discovered some rather interesting things

Just remember the part where it says trustworthy then read this

So, the terrorist owned group counting the deaths in Gaza, which the mainstream media and WHO have been happy to accept as the truth without third party verification, is now reporting that possibly up to a third of their entire calculation of the death toll is inflated and incorrect. Meanwhile, Israel and the US intelligence estimate between 10-12k Hamas fighters have died in this war. If the previous figure was about 33k, and is now down to 22k, with 10-12k being soldiers, it's around a 50-50 civilian military casualty ratio, which in urban warfare in the modern age against terrorists who have years worth of hundreds of millions of dollars worth of tunnels and infrastructure running through buildings and under the entire city, is a literal miracle.

It's true that because of the unlikeliness of a 50-50 ratio, I personally think not all of those 11k are falsified or inflated, however it's very likely a large amount of them are, since Hamas have been using global perception of Israel as a means to cut off its military aid since day one, and have been manipulating the divides in the west to stoke up support for their war. The question is now, if they can so easily fool WHO into believing their now falsified and inflated statistics, then what else is fake? Are there less or more fighters than we fought? How many of these clips of civilians dying are false? How many of these stories are manufactured to paint a bad picture of Israel? Once you're caught in a lie like this, your reliability, which was near zero to begin with, becomes undoubtedly tarnished permanently.

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I saw this BBC news post about Israel "using starvation as a means to wage war" like what? Hundreds of trucks of aid, hundreds of tonnes of food and water are sent into Gaza daily. The reason there isn't more is because Hamas cannot be entrusted to ration out food and water to all of its people in Gaza when it's literally been verified stealing from humanitarian aid, and has used the billions of dollars in international aid over the years to dig terror tunnels and fund terror warfare. This is the reason there's a stereotype about giving homeless people money being a waste since they'll spend it on booze, giving money and aid to a corrupt hateful incompetent 'government' that just funds its own wars rather than helping its own people is literally a waste of money and resources, yet Israel, a country at war with Hamas with no obligation to feed the Palestinian people, is letting hundreds and hundreds of tonnes in per day at the risk of its own soldiers escorting these trucks deep into enemy territory and being regularly ambushed. None of this is disputable.

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Seeing 'Ceasefire now!' next to Palestinian flags and people who don't condemn Hamas is so funny to me, because it's just walking hypocrisy.

"Yeah I want a ceasefire and peace, Israel has to stop its genocide. Hamas could stop the war if they just lay down their arms or gave up the hostages they took for unjustified reasons? That's Zionist propaganda, removing the colonisers from their apartheid state is the only way for peace!"

Like yeah sure, more violence and supporting uprooting millions of Jews AND Arab Israelis is the key to peace in the middle east, not ending terrorism and cracking down on Hamas for good

When 'freeing' Palestine (An entirely independent nation) means displacing millions of innocents because a terror group cried wolf, maybe you should realise you're just spouting nonsense you've heard online

[thatdebaterguy]

Honestly I'm glad the Palestine supporters are so selfish and so surrounded in this victim mentality of theirs, because it shows their true colours. You didn't hear Jews going "Yeah 9/11 was bad but ever hear about the holocaust?" This personally is a testament to the resilience of the Jewish people, able to fight back, move on, progress, thrive, after a millennia of persecution for their beliefs. But when Hamas recreates the boy who cried wolf, except in this case the boy is also a crazed terrorist with an ak-47 who'd shoot up the village himself, the leftists begin a crusade to seek a seemingly marginalised or minority group to victimise and speak on behalf of. We've seen it time and time again, when a single person cries out claiming it's some irrelevant factor that's causing them to suffer, the colour of their skin, their sexuality, the left comes flooding in to support them with upmost conviction of their innocence. They love portraying themselves as the supporter of the underdog, the friend of the quiet kid, when in reality they're just looking for ways to project their own issues onto the world, maybe they got bullied at school, now they seek to paint a picture where they choose who the bully is and who the bullied person is based off the narrative that suits them best.

Hamas is not a victim. Not all Palestinian casualties are civilian or innocent. Not all Israelis are some evil monster you claim they are. Using emotive words like genocide doesn't make your point true. Aaron Bushnell wasn't a martyr, he was sick. Clinging on to this need to be a victim will eventually lead to you being more alone than you'd ever imagine, rather than having people there for you, because you turn a real problem into an excuse for you to complain and make it about yourself. You demand that African Americans need reparations for a crime committed by people long dead, against people long dead, in a society where African Americans now receive far more benefits due to the colour of their skin. Being racist the other way round doesn't make it suddenly not racist, painting white people as the only colonisers in history doesn't make it true. The simplest way I can put this is, grow up, stop being whiny toddlers craving attention and accept that the world has issues you may relate to but will never be about you and aren't made for you to twist in your own way.

You know what’s terrible about the pro-Palestinian movement, they don’t let anyone else mourn about anything besides Gaza, like nothing else bad can happen in the world except what’s happening in Gaza.

I saw a post about the attack on Russia, and how Russian are mourning, and guess what the comments were.

“Can you imagine what’s happening in Gaza?”

“What’s happening in Gaza is ten times worse.”

Or how about mothers talking about the baby in America left alone for 11 days and died, guess what the comments.

See this is why no one likes your movement, you don’t allow anyone else to mourn or focus on something that isn’t Gaza.

You’re not caring for people or humanity, you’re caring selectively.

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I implore you to do your research. Palestine used to be called Judea, and was renamed Syria Palaestina by the Romans as an insult to the Jews for launching a failed rebellion against the Romans. I made another post about this. This is historical fact. America was very close to being called Columbia, but does that give the South American Colombians all claim on the entire US? Of course not. A name is meaningless, the culture and history of that land is what matters, and Jews have been there for all of history. Islamic 'Palestinians' were introduced to the land in the 600s. However, both Palestinians and Israelis all have heritage tracing back to the Canaanites. Both peoples deserve land to live in. Both have a rightful claim. This is why the two state solution is the best possible outcome.

All of Jewish history, Jewish culture, the beginnings of so many kingdoms, inventions, revelations, history changing events, all derive from this one small piece of land, inhabited by Jews, founded by Jews, lived in for thousands of years by Jews, built from the ground up and turned into a beautiful revitalised landscape by the Jews, fought for and protected by the Jews, and now finally officially held by a government to represent the Jewish and Israeli people. But this land they've owned for millennia, these buildings they've built, cities they've sprung up that began as small villages at the beginning of modern human history thousands of years ago, they now happily share this land with people who's ancestors invaded it in the 600s from the Arabian peninsula, intermixed with the local Canaanite population, drove out the Jews the same way the Romans did, and settled and colonised that land and converted the local population to Islam, only for it to be held by Caliphates and Islamic empires for centuries, the Jews living there in the tens and hundreds of thousands, they thrived, and now welcome so many Arab-Israelis, 20% of Israel's entire population, to freely live in Israel with equal opportunities.

Despite struggle after struggle, massacres, assaults, anti-Semitic acts, the worst genocide in human history, their culture lives on and can be openly celebrated while allowing so many others to come to their land and openly celebrate their own beliefs and cultures. The story of the founding of the Israeli state is one that stems from the first Kingdom of David up until the first wars to remove the modern state of Israel from the face of the Earth. It's one of perseverance, overcoming hardships, resilience and hope. And while not all the people of Israel are innocent, as it is with any country anywhere on Earth throughout history, the people of Israel should never be shunned into hiding their pride for the resilience of their people in history and the amazing things they've achieved, and learning from any past mistakes made. The Jews deserve a home, and the land of Israel has been an unofficial home for them since the dawn of human civilisations. Why is it suddenly such a crime to believe so?

To those in Israel and those who are Jewish who are good people, who live their lives peacefully, just wanting to get through another hardship without being judged for your beliefs, whether you support the Israeli government or not, I hope you can be proud of your culture, your history, without being forced to be ashamed.

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All of Jewish history, Jewish culture, the beginnings of so many kingdoms, inventions, revelations, history changing events, all derive from this one small piece of land, inhabited by Jews, founded by Jews, lived in for thousands of years by Jews, built from the ground up and turned into a beautiful revitalised landscape by the Jews, fought for and protected by the Jews, and now finally officially held by a government to represent the Jewish and Israeli people. But this land they've owned for millennia, these buildings they've built, cities they've sprung up that began as small villages at the beginning of modern human history thousands of years ago, they now happily share this land with people who's ancestors invaded it in the 600s from the Arabian peninsula, intermixed with the local Canaanite population, drove out the Jews the same way the Romans did, and settled and colonised that land and converted the local population to Islam, only for it to be held by Caliphates and Islamic empires for centuries, the Jews living there in the tens and hundreds of thousands, they thrived, and now welcome so many Arab-Israelis, 20% of Israel's entire population, to freely live in Israel with equal opportunities.

Despite struggle after struggle, massacres, assaults, anti-Semitic acts, the worst genocide in human history, their culture lives on and can be openly celebrated while allowing so many others to come to their land and openly celebrate their own beliefs and cultures. The story of the founding of the Israeli state is one that stems from the first Kingdom of David up until the first wars to remove the modern state of Israel from the face of the Earth. It's one of perseverance, overcoming hardships, resilience and hope. And while not all the people of Israel are innocent, as it is with any country anywhere on Earth throughout history, the people of Israel should never be shunned into hiding their pride for the resilience of their people in history and the amazing things they've achieved, and learning from any past mistakes made. The Jews deserve a home, and the land of Israel has been an unofficial home for them since the dawn of human civilisations. Why is it suddenly such a crime to believe so?

To those in Israel and those who are Jewish who are good people, who live their lives peacefully, just wanting to get through another hardship without being judged for your beliefs, whether you support the Israeli government or not, I hope you can be proud of your culture, your history, without being forced to be ashamed.