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Crosshair and I have a lot in common. I, too, saw Echo and two seconds later was like âIâd do anything for himâ
#the bad batch#tbb echo#tbb crosshair#arc trooper echo#listen Crosshair met Echo and was like an imprinting duckling#hand on the shoulder in support#saluting the captain bc Echo did#his âwhereâs my hug atâ ass comment#like come oooonnnnnn#I could go on and on and on about their parallels#these two have me in a chokehold
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Last Line
Thanks for the tag @happybean17 :)
Rules: in a new post, show the last line you wrote (or drew) and tag as many people as there are words (or as many as you feel like).
Iâve been working on a lot for different things lately but the most recent fic is a future chapter for We All Die Hungry (itâs way more than one line but shhhhhhhh)
Itâs a flashback (whatâs a fic of mine without one lol)
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âA clone in distress will always try to call out to us.â Captain Rex said as he paced in front of them. Echo had never met a man quite like the captain. Holding his own, strict, yet something behind his eyes that gave away what must be an ability to bend underneath. âItâs how you know danger is coming, itâs how they prepare you for what might be on its way to you, but also,â He stopped in front of Echo, letting his datapad fall to his thigh. âItâs the last bit of hope that someone is coming to save you.â
âWeâre clones, sir,â Fives spoke up, confidence steeping from every single one of his pores. He was like that, head always held high. Echo wasnât sure he stood quite as tall. âIf thereâs a clone in distress, weâll always answer that call.â
âWe donât leave each other behind.â Echo confirmed, drawing Captain Rexâs eyes to him. Something behind them glinted, like he knew a joke they didnât, but his expression remained stoic. Echo wondered if it was just for show, this hard-ass exterior, or if they could break through a bit of that hard shell, get down to the squishy middle of a man burdened to lead.
The captain nodded and, resolutely, repeated. âWe donât leave each other behind.â
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NPT: @phantom-of-the-501st @saturn-sends-hugs @floundrickthewayfarer @girloffourhouses @writingmonet
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I am so ready to yap let's go
first of all I have to include @saturn-sends-hugs tags bc I like them and want to talk about something in them so here they are below:

As a caveat the following is based on my own thoughts/headcanons/theories about what Kamino may have been like specifically for The Batch since we aren't given too much background information on that.
I do think the difference is interesting and I do actually think the Batch can be incredibly hypocritical with this whole 'us vs them' thing they've got going on. The Batch, treated as special, given a private room, told they are the best (superior), etc., may very well have been perpetuated by the Kaminoans who definitely benefited from The Bad Batch believing all of that. Pushing them to be 'better' than everyone else makes what the Kaminoans can achieve through cloning seem more desirable. Domino Squad weren't genetically enhanced (for the Kaminoans this just means they didn't use extra resources to create them) so if they were under-performing it was definitely easier for everyone to toss them aside considering there were millions of other clones. Echo never took the bullying he experienced as a reason to hate other people, he still held camaraderie and love for the other clones. (I love his kindness and his heart, we're all aware of that lol) It was fostered in him to have this strength in heart and loyalty. What I'm saying is that the Kaminoans had nothing to gain from making Domino Squad feel different or superior. It actually benefited everyone more to have the clones feel this sense of loyalty and camaraderie.
Although I want to touch on how there is still very much a sense of outdoing each other on Kamino. Whether this is perpetuated by the Kaminoans alone or by the trainers too, I am not sure. I do think everyone training the clones has a hand in this but we see there are two sides to this. Compete with each other to beat everyone else so you aren't left behind (decommissioned, given less desirable assignments, etc.) but support your squad, be there for each other, build connection. I wonder if there's a balance to be maintained. Compete, outdo, but don't be alone. Don't ever be caught without support. It's a thought I haven't really dissected fully yet so I'm not sure where I'm going with it but one I wanted to put out there nonetheless.
For the Kaminoans, their enhanced clones, ones they spent more resources on, needed to be perceived as 'better' because they spent more resources on them. It benefited the Kaminoans (and whoever trained them) to give the Batch this complex, to make them feel superior, to show them special treatment (the private room, no one keeping an eye on them, no reporting on their missions other than 'Success #125', allowed to make reckless decisions that endanger other people in order to get the job done) to make them appear even more desirable as assets. Because, to the Kaminoans, the clones are all products. The clones are people, we know this. Not to the Kaminoans and a lot of the galaxy, though. I think it's interesting to think about if this split was given more reasons to cause a rift purposefully. Separate them from other clones, talk poorly about other clones in front of the batch as cadets, cause more bitterness between all of them as they watch the batch get treated differently. To be a little real for a sec people do this when they want to isolate a person or a group. It's a common tactic to keep someone under your thumb and doing what you want. In the case of the batch it would keep them constantly striving to be the best to keep holding the position as better than everyone else. They wouldn't want to give that up, even if allowing themselves to have friends outside of their group would have been beneficial to all of the clones, the batch especially.
I think that could explain why sometimes we see 'exceptions' to their superficial rules. Echo is one of them so he isn't a 'reg' (although I don't really like to use that word at all) Cody is different, too. They seem to (at least, Crosshair) kind of idolize him or at least hold him on a pedestal. He worked with them prior, they respect him, they behave (mostly) when he's around. Fights don't really occur in his presence either. At least, not when he's in charge. It's interesting, I wish we knew more about what that history is. Rex gained their respect, he wasn't given it right away. I have my issues with how the batch conducted themselves in those episodes with Rex but for the batch it almost seems like everyone else has to prove themselves. Which... I have thoughts on of course I do when don't I have thoughts lol. I think it opens up the door to talk about why they have this double standard. All other clones have to prove themselves as good enough for the Batch's respect and they don't seem to realize that this... this isn't how things work. side note that perhaps this could come from feeling like they have to prove themselves but idk This is incredibly hypocritical and they don't even seem to recognize how they're starting things off so poorly that no one wants to be around them, not if they are already starting off on the wrong foot. Why should any of the other clones respect the batch if they think everyone else has to prove themselves? If they think of themselves as better? Respect needs to be given both ways. In the same way I think Jesse was itching for a fight before they even got off the ship. Their reputation precedes them ('it's not that they win, it's how they win'), Jesse has made up his mind, and everything the batch does seems to confirm it for him. It's such a constant battle that I find myself trying to pick it apart every so often. This can also open up the possibility of this being a way to purposefully keep other clones away as a coping mechanism. Hurt your chances before other people get a chance to hurt you kind of thing. But, I'm not sold on what I think about this aspect in particular so I'm just yapping.
This is one of my favorite things about dissecting media because it's sticky and messy and we all know I love that but also because it includes one of my favorite concepts:
It may not be The Bad Batch's fault that they have this superiority complex. It may have very well been pushed on them, shown to them over and over again, treated as good and right. However. It is their responsibility to unpack it and learn from it. That's the catch with things that you go through. What happened to you is not your fault but healing from it and not treating other people poorly because of it is your responsibility. Which, the show never convinced me that they actually did. I desperately wish the show actually delved into this in a meaningful way because, in my opinion, it just didn't.
but anyway moving on because I've already rambled about that a lot
Onto your Echo observations:
I love our polite boy!
Tech is a very specific man. I've always liked that he is exact about his phrasing. Because, yeah, the experimentation, the changes to his body, and a lot of the trauma comes from Skako. His initial injuries at The Citadel are only a part of the total picture. I have a headcanon that Tech is one of the few people (maybe even perhaps the only) he told about what happened while he was held captive with the TU. Maybe Tech knows a little more than everyone else because Echo needed to tell someone even if it is just a little. It could hurt Rex to hear it so he may not have told him, Hunter isn't a talker, Crosshair is the way that he is I love him so much but he is so prickly, and Wrecker may have been a bit too supportive for Echo to deal with right away. Tech is logical, understanding, kind. He may have been the safest place for Echo to voice some things for a bit. just a thought.
Ah, right the panic attack! I wish they expanded on this. So many good character things they just dropped or never explored again. No wonder so many of us are obsessed with adding depth to Echo's story! We gotta fill in the blanks!
:') Echo with the shoulder touch. I love them so much.
Echo is such a protective man. Rex would've been red in the face if he saw that interaction lol. Rex, I hate to tell you, but he was your ARC trooper! You definitely had a hand in how he is now lol.
I love when Echo is sarcastic. His facial expressions give me so much happiness. He's got so much attitude! I love him so much!
echo gif for your enjoyment
anyway I don't even know where half of this came from I'm so sorry I hope you enjoyed
Echo Observations from Aftermath
Ya girl is back on her TBB bs and of course that means waffling about Echo! (I have some thoughts about Crosshair that I will likely drop at some point as well :D).
This is more in response to things said about Echo than it is to things he himself does in the episode but I think they're interesting.
When the group talking about the inhibitor chips, Hunter refers to Echo being a reg as a thing of the past ("Echo was a reg before he joined us") but later on Tech refers to it in the present ("But Echo's a reg"), and I think it's an interesting perspective on the way the Batch views themselves in comparison to the other clones.
In summary, the regs are clones that haven't been genetically modified (outside of the standard modifications that all clones get) and Tech seems to stick to this very rigid, scientific view of it. Echo is not genetically enhanced and therefore is, by all definitions, a reg - the experimentation he went through on Skako doesn't change that. But we see with the Batch that there's an "us vs them" mindset and that appears to be perspective Hunter is channelling during this episode. There's CF99 and then there are the regs, and seeing as Echo is now a member of the Batch, that automatically separates him from the "normal" clones.
Following his rescue, Echo has always straddled different groups. He's both a reg and a member of the Batch, and then later he's both a member of the Batch and a member of the rebellion. He's never really been one or the other, he's just someone going wherever he feels he's needed and Tech seems to take that at face value. Echo is a reg and he is now in the Batch, simple as that. But growing up with this idea that CF99 are divorced from the rest of the clones due to their differences (an idea that would have also been pushed by the Kaminoans themselves) means that Hunter is used to there being these two very distinct groups: "us" and "them".
We see in this episode that the Batch still don't get along with the regs and overall hold relatively negative opinions of them, but they don't hold this attitude towards Echo because Echo is one of us now, not one of them. Outside of Tech following the clear-cut definition of a reg, the Batch are still pushing the idea that there's an inherent divide between the two sides despite the fact that they willingly brought one of them into their group. By claiming Echo as one of their own and detaching him from his identity as a reg, it means that they don't have to sacrifice the principals they've carried with them this whole time about them being different.
I really don't think they're trying to be aggressively malicious about any of it, but it's interesting seeing where the Batch make exceptions to their beliefs. They either view them as just that, exceptions (e.g. getting on with Rex and Cody), or they twist it so that they don't break whatever superficial rule they appear to have put in place (e.g. Echo is one of them and therefore not a reg, so when they complain about the regs that doesn't correspond to Echo because he's one of them now). I find it funny that Hunter's comment to Omega in the same episode is "Change takes getting used to, you'll see. Just give it time" because this man is out here tying his principals in knots rather than just admitting that clones are just clones and they should probably stop trying to split them into the "us" and "them" groups that they've created.
All in all, just a curious little perspective thing I noticed this episode. I'm sure that there's a whole other discussion to be had about Echo having an internal identity crisis during all of this but that's a whole other ramble for another time.
(I also have some other random little Echo observations from this episode but none of them are really worth going into depth on so I'll just drop them down below with the tags :D)
When Depa Billapa compliments the Batch on their skill, Echo ends up being the one to jump in and say thank you. It isn't immediate, but when he notices that no-one else is going to say it, he makes sure to because of course Echo is going to maintain the politeness.
"The damage you received on Skako Minor" -> I've never really thought about the fact that Tech specifies Skako and not the Citadel. It isn't about the injuries that Echo sustained on Lola Sayou during the explosion, it's the harm that the TU did to him through their experimentation. It's emphasis on the fact that a lot of what Echo went through actually happened after the Citadel.
Ah yes, Echo's panic attacks that never make an appearance ever again. Wasted opportunity for some interesting character stuff imo!
Wholesome observation #1: Echo puts a hand on Tech's shoulder before helping him up at the end of the test simulation.
"Harm her and you're a dead man" -> Rex would have a conniption if he found out that Echo not only got arrested but also gave a death threat to the guard.
Wholesome observation #2: Right at the end of the episode Wrecker hits Echo a couple of times on the chest with Lula and then flinches because of the pain in his shoulder. THE EYEBROW RAISE ECHO GIVES HERE IS GREAT. It's the most "what were you saying about the shoulder not being an issue?" look I've ever seen. 10/10 for Echo in sarcastic mum mode.
Tags for people who might be interested: @saturn-sends-hugs @inkstainedhandswithrings @the-bi-space-ace @nobody-expects-the-inquisitorius If you don't want anymore tags in my rambling just let me know :D additionally I'm open to tagging anyone else who wants to see future waffle sessions
#the bad batch#tbb echo#I got carried away apologies#but I have so many thoughts and I want to scream#I love getting tagged in these#you always reignite my need to YAP
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Ya gurl is replaying RDR2 right after she finished her first playthrough...but it's different because it's....on the Playstation vs. PC ahahhaha This time around I'm taking more time exploring and doing more of the challenges since I want to get the trapper clothing sets. (and yes I did buy the PS4 version of RDR2 directly after finishing the game on PC because I always like to buy my favorite games both on Playstation and PC)
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More Than Just A Home
Fandom: The Clone Wars
Words: 7,478
Summary: Money is running out and their options are slim. Wolffe finds a way to get them out of a bad situation. No one is happy about it.
Ao3 Link: More Than Just A Home
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^the vibe is SO not like the gif but when I typed in 'moving' it was the first thing that popped up so enjoy.
I'm still technically on my break but it's my birthday so you get a fic upload today <3
#star wars#the clone wars#star wars fanfiction#commander wolffe#commander cody#commander fox#captain rex#modern au
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another week another (late) reminder: itâs never too late to do something! you can do things at your pace. just because other people tend to do things on a certain schedule that doesnât mean you have to. it is your life. live it the way you want to.
#to my friends in my phone#sorry Iâm late this week#it was kind of a long week#but itâs my partners birthday and my birthday is tomorrow#and we made cakes and decorated and I feel a lot better#and I am very excited for birthday celebrations!#much love <3
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honestly, especially in the current state of the world, you all have GOT to kill whatever puritanical voice inside your head keeps insisting that if something is erotic it has no social, artistic, or intellectual merit.
stop acting as if someone canât enjoy both erotica and literary fiction or classics. itâs not some dichotomy.
stop acting as if erotic art canât be poignant and meaningful. and that includes all erotic art - not just fine art.
stop insisting that sex scenes or erotic material ruin movies and shows just because you, personally, get icked out watching it.
no, not all erotic art is high art, and not all erotic art is meant to invoke deep intellectual discussion - but insisting that makes erotic art valueless, a disservice to intellectualism, or whatever else - does nothing but add fuel to a fire built on conservative ideology.
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@the-bi-space-ace and @questforgalas will likely find this funny
Just had a lecture with an actual staff member from the Metropolitan Police. First PowerPoint slide? Arthur Morgan from Red Dead Redemption 2
He was briefly talking about the serial killer side mission and thought the pic would get our attention (he was right)
#never thought arthur morgan would turn up in my forensics lecture#but here we are#<- prev tags#the way I wouldâve been so attentive in that lecture after that đ#I love when people use video game characters to make points#especially Arthur thereâs so much you can say about him
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I love him being a silly, sweet, and/or a menace so ya know what fic recs for you!!!
Pillow Fight by @archivewriter1ont
Goodnight Kisses by @floundrickthewayfarer
The Positives of Affection by SofterSun has some overall great soft bad batch stuff but some excellent silly menace Crosshair too
If I could throw my own fics in the ring
Oh, Shut Up more sweet than silly but itâs one of my faves.
Name Day Echo centric but includes a menace Crosshair scene
The Stages of Grief: The Bad Batch Loses Their Favorite Restaurant so much shenanigans in this one
His Light is Diminishing not menace Crosshair at first but he is definitely up to something the whole time so the scene at the end is fun :)
Best of Five Echo/Quinlan but focuses on Crosshair & Echo and Crosshair is such a little shit
Sorry there are so many I started and couldnât stop lol
Okay so anyone who knows how much I love some good Crosshair angst, but you know what else I love? Him being silly. Him being a menace. Him being a bratty baby brother. I LIVE for that shit.
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If I had to pick one fic to show them it would be one of my own:
Youâre Calling Me Home Like a Ship That Got Wrecked Iâm very proud of it and think itâs a fun, sweet, angsty, fluffy mess that I adore.
Other fic recs that Iâd consider sharing and are worth mentioning since they are so good:
Art of War by Moxibustion on Ao3 is a classic favorite. I reread it often. It changed my life.
In a Pickle by @floundrickthewayfarer is fun and sweet and I love to read it when I need a pick me up.
On the Reg (Of Nosebleeds and Nightmares) by @saturn-sends-hugs has some absolutely incredible emotion built into the writing. A worth while read.
Iâd also consider sharing Blind Trust also by me but that is an angsty thing I donât think I could share without a lot of explanation lol
Welcome to Season 2 of Bad Batch Would You Rather!
Weâre going to start things off with asking what you would rather doâŠ
You have the opportunity to meet the Batch. All of them. Hunter, Tech, Wrecker, Crosshair, Echo and Omega.
But to do so, you HAVE to show them your favorite Bad Batch fandom created piece. The one youâve revisited multiple times. You know exactly the one Iâm talking about.
Bonus points if you reblog this post and include a link to THE favorite fanfic/fanart youâd have to show them!
(Iâll be honestâŠIâm an angst/whump/hurt/comfort girlieâso theyâd be reading something that absolutely wrecked me emotionally đ
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trying DESPERATELY not to dislike a character just because of fanonâs popular interpretation of them
#tbf itâs always the characters that everyoneâs thirsting over while my aroace ass just has to sit there like. ok#đ#<-prev tags#this post is about Hunter to me#also I am always straddling the line between gushing over a character bc I love them#and everyone interpreting my gushing as thirsting#I am rarely thirsting please look at how pretty (platonic) he is#I donât care if other people thirst Iâm just always kinda aware my gushing will be taken as thirsting#I donât even think Iâm making sense rn
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Listen Iâm late to the party but Iâm here letâs go.
Charles is one of those characters who just keeps getting kicked when heâs down. He starts to get a handle on things, starts to rebuild, started to find somewhere he belonged, and then lost all of it. Itâs something that would make so many of us give up. But he has a quality that I have always loved in a character:
Undying hope.
See, when life (people) treats you the way it has treated Charles it can start to feel like nothing will ever be okay. Like throwing in the towel would be easier/better. Charles must feel that sometimes. We all do at some point. I think when John first finds him in the Epilogue we see him feel lost, start to lose that hope, but the thing about hope is that itâs hard to kill.
As long as hope has one single spark, one thing to hold onto, it never truly dies. All you need is that spark, one person, one feeling in your chest, and hope is alive. Itâs built brick by brick. You canât just take it away. Itâs something you hold onto with your strongest grip. You have to.
Itâs something Charles always has. Hope. Despite how people have treated him time and time again. He never stops hoping. He finds a place he fits, he pushed Arthur to be a better man (you ainât as tough and dense as all that!), he helps John build his own life, and he moves on with his life after the gang falls apart. He tries to build something he can hold onto. Something he wants. Even if he never truly stops looking over his shoulder, never truly feeling safe.
And I think that, even though we know how things end for the Marstons, that wasnât for nothing. It still matters that Charles helped them rebuild. It matters that he found that spark again. It matters that for as little time as they got it they still had something resembling a normal life. There was still a chance. Just because things didnât go the way they planned that doesnât mean the effort wasnât worth it.
Charles is a resilient, kind, and compassionate character. Heâs seen what happens when the world chews you up and spits you out and part of what he has learned is to just get back up. Always get back up again. They may knock you down. It may be the hardest thing youâll ever have to do. But you have to get back up. No matter what.
Yes, right now is difficult for so many people. Heartbreaking. Dangerous. Dark. Itâs not going to be easy but I always want to hold onto hope. Hope is tough. Hope is resilient. It is the foundation for all change. As you said above, things do get better. It may take a long time. It may be a hard road. We may be in this for a long, long time but that doesnât mean we shouldnât try. Our efforts matter. Even if they donât end up the way we thought they would.
Charles is proof that things can get better, that we can always try, that even when everything is stacked against us it is always worth it. To try. To change. To hope.
I was thinking about something that I saw Noshir say about Charles and hope and it got me thinking about Charles' perspective on the world and all of the cruelty that it brings.
Charles is a man who feels like he was made to suffer, to exist in a world that doesn't want him. His mother was taken from him, his father turned to alcohol, there's a chance that he ended up in a reform school and would have had people trying to take his own identity away from him, and he lives in a world of people who hate him simply for who he is. He's a man who people hate and do not trust simply for the colour of his skin, for being African American, for being Native American. And being mixed race brings it's own struggles as well; he likely found that he couldn't find company among indigenous communities because he wasn't "Native American enough" and similarly found those struggles among black communities who found that he wasn't "African American enough". He lives in a world of cruelty that doesn't accept him.
But then he finds the gang. He ends up in a place where he feels like he can belong. There're still struggles, people in the group who test his patience, those who are still going to give him the side eye, but there's enough of a family for him that he feels like maybe he can belong. And on top of that, he finds a best friend in Arthur, someone he can trust and open up to, to be vulnerable with. It's been a long time since Charles felt like there was anyone he could trust to the degree that he does with Arthur. And with all of this, there's hope. Hope that maybe things will be better, that Charles can exist in a pocket of this world that isn't just the microcosm of suffering he has been trapped in this whole time. There's somewhere where he can find at least a fragment of comfort and happiness.
But then it's all taken away from him. The gang falls apart, his best friend dies and Charles is once again left wondering if he was right all along, that he only exists to suffer. Every time Charles finds something good to cling onto, it's taken away from him.
And yet, he still manages to find a little bit of hope. Hope that the others can get out, hope that even though Arthur's life is coming to an end, he still has a chance to do some good. Through all of it there is something that Charles can grasp onto, to look at and say "maybe there is something better that come out of this." It's a degree of optimism I can't help but respect in a man who always seems to prepare for the worst, who always looks over his shoulder for the seemingly inevitable.
Beecher's Hope is a fitting name: a new life, a new start, a chance to escape the cycle of suffering that many of them have been trapped in for much of their life. Arthur may have lost his, but because of it John managed to get out, so did Abigail, so did Jack. Even though they all went through immense tragedy, they came out on the other side with a better chance. Charles recognises that. I think it reinvigorates something in him, to see that hope still came out of heartbreak. The Marstons can live a better life and Jack won't have to suffer the upbringing that Arthur, John and Charles would have all gone through. At the end of the epilogue, we see Charles make the decision to move to Canada and start his own life. For once he recognises that for all the suffering that he's endured, that doesn't mean that he can't belong anywhere, because if the Marstons can pull through and come out okay, then there's a chance that he can too.
However, as we know, things don't pan out. John dies, Abigail dies, and Jack falls into the lifestyle that everyone fought so hard to save him from. I think that if this news ever got to Charles, it would devastate him. Once again, the world has landed on the side of cruelty. Once again, it all begins to fall apart.
Perhaps Charles has settled down in this time, has his own family. I don't think he ever would have stopped looking over his shoulder because at the end of the day, that's just who Charles is. He prepares for the worst and keeps an eye out for the danger that he can't help but feel will turn up eventually. And, maybe, upon hearing what has happened, he falls into that habit hard. He sleeps less, terrified that if he lets down his guard for just a second, something will happen. He trusts people less because he can't help but consider the chance of betrayal. He closes off more, scared that if he opens up again, something bad will happen to those that he loves. I don't think Charles will ever truly let go of that feeling because he lives in a world that doesn't allow him to. It seems that things will eventually always catch up.
However, I don't think that Charles ever would have lost hope. Despite everything, there is always that belief that things could get better because they do. Sure, the highs aren't permanent, but neither are the lows. Those moments of happiness aren't nothing. The time he spent with his mother, finding a family in the gang, finding someone he could trust in Arthur, that time at Beecher's Hope with the Marstons? It all means something. Maybe it was temporary, maybe that joy was fleeting at times, but it was still there. In amongst all of the pain and hurt and suffering that Charles has endured, there were moments in there that just made things brighter. Things may seem dark, but there's always something there worth living for.
There's a lesson we can all learn from Charles: even if things seem dire, there is always room for hope. The world is shit and now more than ever we are finding ourselves pushing back against the weight of hurt and hatred that seems to permeate everything. But there's still something there, something to cling onto. Things are hard, and they may be hard for a very long time, but there will always be better days. We don't know when they'll be, or how long they'll last, but they do exist and it's important to never forget that. Bad things have happened before and they will happen again, but so will the good things. If Charles can live through what he did and still hold onto that little bit of hope that things can get better, then so can we.
Extra side ramble: I just finished reading Lonesome Dove the other day so my thoughts are all on sad cowboys atm. But I think that book still holds a lot of the same messaging as RDR2. There may be a lot of awful things, but in amongst that there is always something worth living for. Appreciate the small things in life, because they mean something and shouldn't be forgotten, even if they seem mundane in the grand scheme of things. (Also it's a great book and I highly recommend).
Tagging @the-bi-space-ace as promised :D
#charles smith#i loooooove these posts#i typed these thoughts out so fast i misspelled so much#i think i caught it all#<3#Charles is The Character he is so wonderful
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pov he got ya
#pretty sure this is yâallâs man#he just wandered onto my feed come get him#<- youâre right this is our man!!#I will collect him donât you worry#he needs to be protected from the narrative đ« #BEAUTIFUL ART
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Can I get something off my chest that Iâve been physically holding in for the past three years???
the timing of tbb makes no sense because thereâs literally no way Omega can both age normally and be older than tbb unless all of them have weird aging going on which is literally never explained and never given any weight or confirmation. âI was here when you were createdâ HOWWWW????!???!
Look listen. Listen to me for one second.
You start forming memories around 2.5 years old. Okay. So if sheâs aging normally then sheâd be, at the earliest, 2.5 years old when the batch was created then sheâd have to like 15.5 by the start of the bad batch. She looks at most maybe 12? And she certainly acts like a 12 year old. (Donât even get me started on if sheâs even younger. this super doesnât add up then.)
So if sheâs aging normally and she is the 5th one in the batch of clones for the bad batch (which also doesnât make sense bc batches are literally created with each other thatâs why theyâre batches because the definition is âgoods made at ONE TIMEâ) she literally canât be a part of the same batch AND be aware when they were created.
So. If tbb is around 13 years old (26) and Omega is 12 aging normally she couldnât possibly be aware of the batch being created. That just doesnât make sense.
plus she canât be both older than them and be 12 when theyâre 13 this isnât how numbers work
And if she was actually there the batch canât be 13. But they are canonically 13. But they canât be because Omega âremembersâ them being created which she canât OR she would be 2.5 when they were created making the batch at most like 7 or maybe 8?????? Which also isnât the case because they simply arenât thatâs ridiculous they are 13 at the start of the show this is so ridiculous, Iâm just-
YOUR SCIENCE DOESNT SCIENCE. IT DOESNT. I CANT KEEP DOING THIS THE SCIENCE DOESNT SCIENCE. I CANT HOLD IT IN ANY LONGER THIS HAS IRRITATED ME SINCE I HEARD IT.
Iâm losing my mind this was such a stupid detail I haaaaaaaaate it.
Just donât do this? Or make the ages make sense? Or donât even discuss age because why did you need to? To make one reference to it in S1 and one weird joke in S3??? Thereâs no reason to add this detail it doesnât seem to have been thought through very well and if it isnât thought through well then why is it in there and if it was thought through well then they didnât do a good job at explaining it because years later Iâm still confused!!!!!
AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
no one was ever meant to think this hard about this but I do I have been because it has irked me since it happened and I canât stop my eye from twitching over it doooooonât do this to meeeeeeeeeee
Coming to you from a very sleep deprived and very overwhelmed me who is suddenly possessed by this again
#the bad batch#Iâm dying#it has bugged me forever#who thought this was a good idea#and who do I have to shake by the shoulders and go âGIVE ME ANSWERS I NEED ANSWERSâ
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another week another reminder: you are so much more than your productivity. you are so much more than what you can produce. take time for yourself and donât let anyone make you believe you have to run yourself ragged to have worth.
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Why do I always get ideas for long yaps on the way to a lecture when I can't write them?
Anyway @the-bi-space-ace heads up that you're going to get some Charles Smith rambles from me later :D
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