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This 100%

I think the main motivator here behind everything Killua’s doing is the fact that Palm is a crazed knife-wielding maniac who at this point is still powerful enough to kill either of them if she wanted to. Killua’s doesn’t want Gon to date Palm at all, he just wants to make sure Gon keeps her placated so she doesn’t lose it and dice them up like she threatened at just about every spare moment she had.

I think a lot of Killua’s feelings about Gon potentially liking Palm more than him come a bit later than this. Obviously there’s the jealousy he displays when Gon is out with Palm on their “date”, but I don’t think he genuinely is convinced that Gon likes her outside of that until the lead up to the palace invasion, since he gets repeatedly upset by Gon’s concern for her.

Either way, what he does in this particular scene seems to be more necessity to me than anything else.

Hi ! I would like to have your interpretation on the scene where Killua gives advice to Gon for Palm. It surprised me because Killua wants Gon only for himself. I think that either he hasn’t discovered yet that he is in love with Gon, or he was trying to convince himself once again that Gon is just his friend or he just wanted to answer lucidly to what Gon was telling him (stupid question but it intrigues me ><)

Hi! Good question!

Here's the scene from the manga. We're not given any more context to the conversation than this. Based on the little we do see, it's likely more of a conversation on "rehashing events of the date" and/or "how to get Palm off Gon's back" more than "dating advice from Killua." Based off Gon's posture and what he's saying, he seems maybe a little troubled and defeated, while Killua looks surprised (presumably at what Gon's telling him), so I think that supports this conclusion more than Killua giving Gon dating advice more generally.

Killua is suggesting that Gon tell Palm to wait until later, so it's not like he's telling Gon to "Go for it!!!" wholeheartedly either, haha.

Of course, Killua is concerned about their mission and Gon's safety, so getting Palm out of the picture (even just temporarily) is important, and he may hope Palm will lose interest or things otherwise won't work out between them if the whole Palm situation gets postponed until later.

I do also think Killua has a misguided belief that Gon is more interested in and invested in the relationship with Palm than he actually is, which is supported by Killua's annoyance at Gon being worried about Palm during the palace invasion, and Killua's breakdown later in CAA over the thought that Palm might be able to reach Gon while he can't.

Killua, in his panic, seems to believe that Gon's relationship with Palm is more mutual and serious/romantic in nature than it actually is, and so it makes sense to me that he might give Gon at least a little earnest advice under the misguided assumption that, even after that disaster date, Gon wants to be in a relationship with Palm. There's also the question of how aware Killua is of his own feelings. He very well may be in denial or still grappling with what his feelings mean at this point, and regardless I don't think he has much hope of Gon reciprocating. So, he's trying to be a good friend and tell Gon what he thinks is the best course of action.

Also, like I've said about this scene before, it's pretty ironic that how the Palm date incident comes to a close is with these two on...what looks like a date.

You can read more of my takes on the Palm subplot here, I've written a lot about it previously!

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Hotter take, he’s gonna be a side villain/antagonist.

The rainbow from the OVA told me

I might be completely off with this take, but I have a feeling that Rekis Childhood friend will have a comeback in season 2.. He might appear or visit again, Reki and him hanging out, catching up and spending a lot of time together, while Langa gets slowly jealous, as they exclude him without noticing really (I know Reki would never do that intentionally). But Langa stressing out and yearning to spend time with his best friend again.

Either it will be a messy season (a roller coaster of emotions) or a complete wholesome one :”-)

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No problem! And yeah, I totally feel that too with creating titles, it always ends up being that I either spend forever trying to come up with one and never love it, or come up with one in a second and it just works, there is no in-between lol

Bro your fic titles take me out every time🤣🤣🤣. I can’t wait to read this new one

AKDJSKDJDKA THANK YOU

this is great because i actually hate creating titles. i used to think so hard about it to try to come up with something good, but now i just lean into the struggle by choosing the first thing that comes to mind which is usually something stupid and ridiculous

so i’m glad they’re appreciated 🤣😭

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Bet

if this post reaches 25 notes ill make an entire killugon masterpost / essay about how they are canon.

idk how it'll look like but this has been on my mind for awhile now and... i want to do it but at the same time im kinda lazy so this is my ultimatum. dk if anyone's done it either.

itll include analysis + my own thoughts and perceptions + as well as other info ive found from other people + mostly me just screaming tho

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Hi! I just came here to say I love your work, especially the killugon fic everyone is asking you about right now. I hope you take as much time as you need. I feel like there’s this pressure for you to finish it asap but you should always prioritize your life first. Me and the others will wait as long as needed even if it takes months. I hope you’re doing well!🤞🏻

Hi! Thanks so much, I’m really glad you enjoy the fic! I’m doing okay thanks! Though sadly I am quite sick right now after attending Comicon lol, so that’s not so fun.

As I’ve said before, there’s no need to worry about me abandoning it because I never will. I still have a lot of ideas to do for that fic and I think about it very often.

However, that fic is not my only writing project I have going on right now. I have a Sk8 The Infinity fanfic too that I’m very excited about and have been slowly working on, and I’m also working towards publishing my actual original novels as well, which as you can imagine takes a lot of time.

Also outside of this I do have a job too which unfortunately takes up much of my time, but I’m trying to manage that better rn cause it’s been killing me not to write as much as I used to. Anyway, the fic will be updated at some point in the near future, I’ve just been dealing with a lot lately is all.

Once again though, thanks for enjoying it so much!

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something more important is AMAZING dude i am feral for an update 🙏🙏🙏🙏

Thank you so much! I’m really glad you enjoy it! The update is coming fr, I have not abandoned it don’t worry. It’s just taking a bit longer than I thought. As soon as it’s done though I’m gonna update it

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Hi! I love your killugon fic it’s definitely one of my favourites (Something More Important) and wanted to know if you knew when it will be updated next if you haven’t given up on it🥹

Hello! Thanks so much for enjoying the fic so far! I’m really glad you like it! Yes I will in fact be continuing the fic. I’ve already got the rest of it planned out and I will have the next chapter out within a month. I apologize for not being able to get it out sooner, but I’ve been busy with other things and I just couldn’t make it a priority at the time. Now though I will have more time to work on it. Don’t worry, I will never abandon the fic! I love it far too much

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I had a vision with this song so after 37 hrs this came to be

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By the way, for everyone who’s wondering where the new chapters for my HxH fic are, I assure you they are coming! I will get multiple out soon, I just had to work on this first. But I will never abandon that fic!

New fic release! I really hope people will check out the first chapter of my brand new SK8 The Infinity story!

I have not written for this fandom before but I love it to death and managed to come up with an idea that I’m very excited to share! Hope everyone can check it out!

Rating: Mature

Chapters: 1 (ongoing)

Summary: Two years after Langa defeated Adam, Reki and Langa are at a crossroads in their life. With both having taken a year off after finishing High School to 'figure themselves out', neither of them feels ready to take the inevitable next step of their lives away from Okinawa, away from 'S', and away from each other.

However, when a mysterious stranger turns up at 'S' and offers the two of them and their friends the opportunity of a lifetime, how could they possibly refuse?

And besides, who wouldn't want to take part in a massive international race to be crowned the 'best skater in the world?' Well, Reki and Langa suppose the promise of a massive fortune at the end doesn't hurt either.

But them and their friends are far from the only ones who want to win the race, and take what lies at the end of the track for themselves...

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New fic release! I really hope people will check out the first chapter of my brand new SK8 The Infinity story!

I have not written for this fandom before but I love it to death and managed to come up with an idea that I’m very excited to share! Hope everyone can check it out!

Rating: Mature

Chapters: 1 (ongoing)

Summary: Two years after Langa defeated Adam, Reki and Langa are at a crossroads in their life. With both having taken a year off after finishing High School to 'figure themselves out', neither of them feels ready to take the inevitable next step of their lives away from Okinawa, away from 'S', and away from each other.

However, when a mysterious stranger turns up at 'S' and offers the two of them and their friends the opportunity of a lifetime, how could they possibly refuse?

And besides, who wouldn't want to take part in a massive international race to be crowned the 'best skater in the world?' Well, Reki and Langa suppose the promise of a massive fortune at the end doesn't hurt either.

But them and their friends are far from the only ones who want to win the race, and take what lies at the end of the track for themselves...

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For what it’s worth, I don’t think there’s really any chance that Gon ends up with Noko at this point, like I would honestly eat a hat if that happened. Not only because Togashi already showed us that potential ending and rejected it, the only thing of real note in that ending being who Gon ends up with, and that being rejected and not even in his top three choices.

Also though, I find it highly unlikely that Togashi would put Gon romantically with any character who just exists as a faceless entity only in name. Togashi doesn’t write romance like that, especially not for the main character and face of the series like Gon is. Togashi flushes out both sides of his romantic pairings to the point where both are almost always equally interesting characters, and Noko isn’t even a character in the story really, just a name.

Plot wise I’m not even sure how the hell he would even write it either, considering it’s almost certain that the way Gon and Killua respectively are going to become plot relevant again, is going to be the journey to the dark continent, given both of their strong ties there. How Noko, a kid who presumably has not left whale island her whole life, doesn’t know nen or have any combat experience at all, would be able to play any role whatsoever in that plot is just silly to me. There would be no time to develop a meaningful relationship there on the level that Togashi has with other romantic pairings.

The only way I could see Gon even ending up with a girl at this point is if we’re introduced to some new girl nen user his age who is at a similar level to him for her to even be relevant in the plot. But again, that would involve constructing a whole new character from nothing, and developing a relationship from nothing into romance with Gon in what is already assuredly going to be a very busy plot. Safe to say, it isn’t necessarily impossible, but I’m highly doubtful of that happening at this point.

Tbh, I think the only real possibilities at this point are that Gon either ends up with Killua, or with no one. We’ve already had the stereotypical Shonen “straight with kids” ending shown as rejected in ending D, and IMHO, the idea of having the exact same thing happen in canon but just with a different girl instead of Noko is just silly, when other than a name change it would make no real difference.

TLDR, I don’t think we’ve got anything to worry about with this.

I think what scares me about ending D is that by leaving Gon, Killua has opened up a place at Gon’s side that could be filled in his absence. Like what if Noko becomes closer to Gon while Killua is gone? That’s what scares me and I don’t think Killua has thought of this or if he has, he’s accepted it (which hurts just as much, I hate the idea of him being “over” Gon). And how would Killua even react if he met Gon again and saw someone else at Gon’s side. He can’t be mad considering he’s the one that left.

Hi!

So, I think a good thing to keep in mind is that HxH is not real events happening to real people. The characters aren't going about their lives in actuality with the "danger" of things going in some unexpected direction, they're living out a story that has been pre-determined to whatever degree Togashi has planned it out. As much as I dig into the character psychology and such, I think this is worth remembering. Stories are created with intention.

Togashi already "spoiled" the scrapped idea of Gon ending with Noko, so I personally see it as extremely unlikely this is an idea he intends to continue to use. It's possible Noko will appear while Gon is on Whale Island, but at the same time they've never been portrayed in the series as being particularly close, and if Togashi has no intention of ending it with them together I don't see why he'd bother with giving her more than some sort of cameo. Ending D aside, which is separate from the series itself as something that was rejected, she hasn't been given any important role in within the story so far.

I think it's unlikely Togashi still has some real role planned for her at this time. The series has spent so much time and focus on Gon and Killua's relationship, and there is a lot still unresolved between the two of them. The audience of HxH has been clamoring to see them again for over a decade now, and I feel like focusing on Noko all the sudden just seems like a random diversion that I don't think Togashi has the time/energy to deal with at this point. However, as usual, I can't speak for Togashi himself, and HxH can be quite unpredictable so I can't say anything for certain. These are just my best guesses based on the set of circumstances we have currently. I personally don't think it's worth worrying about Noko currently, however.

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Hoping we find out why Illumi is REALLY on the Black Whale, and hoping we get to see one of the PT members bite the dust epically

Reblog with what you're most hoping to see in the upcoming HxH chapters!

Realistic, unrealistic, vague, specific--doesn't matter! Just have fun sharing your hopes and dreams!

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Does anyone else ever think about how the main villains of each HxH arc prior to CAA represent a twisted/evil version of each of the four main protagonists? (CAA also has this but in a much more complex way that I’ll save for a later post)

Gon-Hisoka: I think this is fairly obvious with Hisoka being obsessed with fighting and getting stronger/being the best with no real regard for anything else. We see many hints of Gon having obsessive tendencies that could lead in this direction, also his love of fighting that could very well have turned sinister eventually had Gon been a less moral person than he is/went down a different path. Even then though we still get glimpses of that in the early arcs.

Killua-Illumi: again, pretty obvious. Illumi represents what Killua could have been had he followed his parent’s wishes of becoming a full time assassin and leader of the family, or potentially if he had never met Gon in the first place. Illumi is everything Killua fears becoming. (Also I think it’s worth noting how Hisoka and Illumi also have a “will they, won’t they, what are they to each other” vibe going on with the romantic subtext of their relationship. Not nearly as blatant or prominent as it is with Killua and Gon, but it is there.)

Kurapika-Chrollo: This one’s a bit more subtle, but I think the connection can be made between the two of them. First of all both of their backstories involve horrible deaths befalling those they loved when they were a child, which motivated them to go down their respective paths of revenge. Both are incredibly intelligent and competent nen users as well, and take the leader role in their respective groups, a position that neither of them take lightly and feel an intense sense of responsibility for when it comes to their people. Both are willing to sacrifice everything for their cause (Kurapika’s being Justice and Chrollo’s being the PT as a group) and their personalities are also very similar as well.

Leorio-Genthru: Up until this point the parallels have very clearly come from the rival of each character, however I think this comparison also applies regardless. Genthru and Leorio both share a driving goal of doing what they do for money, although in Leorio’s case it’s so that he can help others while for Genthru it’s entirely selfish. Both of them are smarter then they let on at first, and capable of being very dangerous/powerful when they want to be. However, they also share a deep care and camaraderie with their friends despite their outward personalities. We all know that Leorio would do anything for his friends but Genthru as well is shown to deeply care for his two friends even to the point of his own detriment. There is also the fact that they do share many physical traits as well. Tall, lanky, glasses, etc. (also they’re both a bit underutilized in the story IMHO lol) but yeah, I think it’s clear where the similarities are.

Anyway, I may go more in depth into this at some point, or I may not. It’s just something I think about from time to time and was wondering if anyone else does too.

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I present to you the first-ever documented instance of Gon using foresight

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An Analyis of the Ending of "The Killing Joke"

This scene is one I've wanted to get my thoughts written out on for a while and one of the most interesting in all of DC comics from how important it is to understanding both the characters of Batman and the Joker.

So, this scene is the finale of the oneshot comic "The Killing Joke" By Alan Moore, and is directly preceeded by Batman once again foiling the Joker's evil plan, beating him both verbally and physically before then kicking him to the ground to seemingly knock him out.

For what then follows, I will post the full comic pages so you can absorb the scene first.

Ah, the infamous cutaway that leaves the ending so open to interpretation. But what exactly does all of this mean? Well, I'll give my interpretation:

The scene starts in the same way as many other fights between Batman and Joker have concluded. Joker gets defeated, Batman saves the day, the clown prince of crime will get chucked back into Arkham until he inevitably breaks out once again, and then they'll do the whole thing over. "You know, I think you and I are destined to do this forever", that's how their story always goes. However, this time things are different.

This time, Batman doesn't beat Joker senseless, even though cosnidering what Joker spent that evening doing to his friends and family, he would richly deserve a good beating by anyone's estimation. Joker expects that of Batman as well, and he accepts the beating and re-imprisonment that he's sure is coming his way, because that's how it's always been. And yet instead, this time Batman chooses to talk with him. He tells Joker the facts of the situation, that despite everything, he actually doesn't WANT to hurt him, and knows that if they keep going down their current path, one of them will eventually kill the other. Batman knows it, and he knows that Joker knows it too, and he doesn't want that to be the case, because above everything else Batman values preserving human life as a goal equal to and often greater than stopping crime. He doesn't want to kill Joker, it would go against everything he stands for, but he knows with every encounter they share that possibiltiy grows more and more likely.

In a similar fashion, the Joker doesn't actually want to kill Batman either. Despite how he may play the part of wanting otherwise, the entire story of the comic up until this point has been about Joker trying to prove a point to Batman. That deep down, everyone can become him, that all it takes is one bad day to turn even the most moral man alive into the Joker. whether this is because Joker genuinely believes this, or it is meant to simply justify and excuse who he himself became from his own tragedy, is never really confirmed, though it is most likely a bit of both.

Either way, we see that Joker is not happy at all by Batman attempting to talk to him instead of beating him. In fact, he's practically sulking. Now, is this due to the fact that his big plan just failed, sure, at least partly. However, there is something else going on as well. All of Joker's plans fail sooner or later, this is no exception. It's something he expects despite coming up with a new one every week. This time though, he genuinely looks depressed, and this is in part due to Batman breaking the magic of their routine. By speaking to him like anyone else, by reaching out to Joker, Batman is attempting to fundamentally change their relationship forever. Batman wants it to end, he doesn't want to keep fighting Joker until it kills one of them, he wants Joker to stop. But Joker doesn't want to stop, he doesn't want Batman to die or stop chasing him because the relationship he has with Batman is all he has left. He has no real friends, no goals outside of plans to mess with Batman more, he has nothing outside of his role as Batman's arch enemy, and he knows it.

And yet, despite all that, when Batman genuinely reaches out to him, appeals to the fact that their lives were both heavily affected by past tragedies and offers Joker help to try and move past that, to be better, even after all the atrocities he's committed, despite all that... Joker actually seems to consider his offer. We can see this by his hesitation, and the fact that he doesn't just laugh it off right away or make fun of Batman as he would any other time.

This time, Joker seems to consider the offer, and turns dead serious in a moment that is probably the most normal display of genuine human emotion we get from him, and he tells Batman that he's sorry. Joker genuinely apologizes for not being able to take Batman up on his offer, looking like he's about to cry as he declares that it's far too late for him to take any offer Batman could give him.

The question is, why? Why is this time so different, why does Joker seem to actually consider Batman's offer and reject it in such a human manner? Well, I truly believe the answer is clearly seen in the joke that the conversation with Batman reminds him of. I will go through it line by line and give my interpretation.

"See, there were these two guys locked in a lunatic asylum" I think this obviously is referring to Batman and Joker. They are the characters of this joke/story, the conversation between them reminded Joker of this joke (or he just came up with it on the spot to suit their situation, but regardless) and they are also the only two characters in the panel where that line is said. In this case, the 'asylum' in question would be their rivalry, their roles as Batman and Joker and everything that comes along with that. Makes sense, none of the things either of them do in those roles are things that normal, sane people do, and both of them were traumatized in their lives by horrible events and spiraled into becoming the Batman and Joker because of it.

"And one night, one night they decide they don't like living in an asylum anymore, they decide they're going to escape." This is a clear metaphor for ending their roles as Batman and Joker, perhaps just for that particular rivalry or all together. Escaping the asylum means returning to the normal, happy lives they had before their trauma. Batman has already stated he wants to end his fighting with Joker, however the fact that both men in the story wish to leave the asylum together implies that Joker also secretly wants that too, which is very interesting as we go on.

"So like, they get up onto the roof, and there, just across this narrow gap, they see the rooftops of the town, stretching away in the moonlight, stretching to freedom." Given that Joker is looking at the moon shining over Gotham as he says this, I think it's clear that the 'freedom' here is living a normal human life the same way all the civilians of Gotham try to every day. It's about having a chance to be better, to do better and make something of your life everyday beyond the endless cycle that he and Batman are trapped in with each other. As long as that cycle exists, they can never truly be free, even though the Joker can break out of Arkham whenever he wants and do practically whatever he wants until Batman stops him. Their rivalry prevents either of them from ever being free.

"Now the first guy, he jumps right across with no problem. But his friend, his friend daredn't make the leap. Y'see, y'see he's afraid of falling." This is where we see Joker differentiate himself and Batman in the story, and how their situations in life currently exist. Batman is the first guy who is able to escape the asylum and return to the city fairly easily, whenever he desires. This is because that, unlike Joker, Batman has his life as Bruce Wayne to live and fall back onto. He has many friends and a large family both adopted and biological who rely on him and give him something good and happy to live for. He can leave the asylum because he sees the light on the other side, he has hope and knowledge that things will turn out alright if he does. But Joker does not. Joker doesn't have another life to live, no family and no friends to fall back on and lift him up. All his life consists of is the asylum and Batman, the other man right along with him. He knows nothing else, and so it seems impossible for him to ever jump across to the other side and join Batman in freedom.

However, it goes beyond that. Joker isn't scared to leave the asylum because it's all he knows, in fact he's just as eager to leave it with Batman. What he is afraid of though, is FALLING as he jumps across. What does falling mean in this case? Well since escaping the asylum would mean ditching the roles of Batman and Joker and returning to a normal life, falling would be failing to do just that, failing so hard that it sends him plummeting right back down, either to death or to being left alone and away from the safety of the asylum and more importantly the companionship of Batman. if he falls but Batman doesn't, he'll be left lost and alone, pointless and forgotten, and that's what Joker fears by leaving the asylum.

"So then the first guy has an idea. He says 'Hey! I have my flashlight with me! I'll shine it across the gap between the buildings. You can walk across the beam and join me!" This part of the metaphor I believe is meant to represent Batman's offer of help to the Joker, the therapy/rehabilitation that's intended to help him get better. In this case though, the help is being represented by something that has little actual effect. You can't walk across a beam of light to cross over to another building, in the joke it's only meant to stop the second guy's fear of falling. It isn't actually a real bridge to freedom, just an illusion of one that Joker thinks Batman is giving him.

However, than we get to the punchline.

"B-but the second guy shakes his head. He suh-says, he says, 'wh-what do you think I am? Crazy? You'd turn it off when I was halfway across!"

And here we get the real reason why Joker can't take Batman's offer, why he can't join him in freedom outside of the asylum. It isn't because he doesn't think the help Batman is offering him would work. The beam of light not being a real bridge to walk across isn't the problem in his eyes. The problem, is that believes that if he tried to walk across it, Batman would shut it off and let him fall. Because what Joker is truly scared of, isn't that the help Batman's offering him wouldn't work, he's scared that the help might actually have a chance at working, that he may have a way to get out of the asylum for good, but that Batman will give up on him before he reaches the other side.

He's afraid that the only person in the world who genuinely cares about him and wants to help him, will end up giving up on him and forgetting him if he tries to get better. We can see that in the way Joker delivers the punchline, turned around to stare directly into Batman's face with a disturbed, crushing smile of realization on his face while the symbol of freedom that is Gotham, bathed in the light of the moon sits directly behind him, just out of reach. He's accusing/telling Batman of why he's afraid, that he could never trust him enough to actually try and rehabilitate him, and he's laughing because he knows there's no way out of this.

And Batman, once the joke finally hits him, realizes the exact same thing. He knows then that Joker will never actually be able to be helped, there is nothing he can do for him because Joker will never trust him enough to let himself be helped. There is no way out of this for them now that Batman's final appeal to peace has been turned down by a man to broken to realize it was his way to a better life, a free life.

And so, knowing now how their story will end, Batman does the one thing that Joker always wanted from him, and breaks his role as Batman for just a moment. He shares in a final laugh with Joker as he puts his hands on his shoulders, up by Joker's neck, and the two laugh and laugh together until the scene cuts away and their laughter cuts off equally as quick.

Now, did Batman kill Joker here? The single question everyone tends to ask when they read this scene. Now, canonically we know that, no, Batman does not kill him, Joker returns again and again after this, but in this case I do fully believe that the creator of this comic, Alan Moore (the same man who wrote Watchmen), did likely intend for that to be the ending. The fact that the scene opens with Batman acknowledging that their relationship will end in death, and that the only way out of that is for Joker to accept his proposal I think seals the intent of the ending pretty well. Joker Can't accept his proposal, because the trust between them that would be necessary for that is something that could never truly be built up as they exist in their roles as Batman and Joker. They both know this, and so Batman ends their relationship and breaks his one rule by freeing Joker the only way left it is possible to free him, in death.

So, as much as I personally think that having Batman kill at all is a fundamental no no that you just can't do with his character because it goes against everything he stands for, I think this as an intended ending by Alan Moore to the relationship of Batman and Joker works very well. It is one of many endings in across many comics. Is it my favourite? No, though I would put it in my top three. however, I do think that this is the meaning that Moore was trying to convey in this scene, and I truly believe he does a beautiful job at conveying it!